who else besides me thinks physics is a dumb req

[aubieRx]

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I absolutely have never been able to stand learning about cars or engines or pulleys or levers or blocks on inclines. I hate mechanical stuff so much ....my brain just could not care less.

its really driving me nuts taking this class because it bores me so. i dread hearing people talk about something i find so incredibly and cruelly boring.

just thought id let off some steam and see if anyone else hates it as much as i do. what on god's green earth does this have to do with pharmacy

 

[TrojanAnteater]

I hated most of physics (compared to other sciences such as biology or chemistry), but I guess there are some useful things like how fluids move through tubes for instance. The other 99.99% of physics seemed like a waste.

 

[aubieRx]

but I guess there are some useful things like how fluids move through tubes for instance. .

yes i agree; a totally sensible subject to study 😛

 

[aurovon]

There are engineers out there who feel the same way about taking biology and chemistry as requisites 😀

 

[Caverject]

if you feel that way now, you are going to LOVE pharmacokinetics!

 

[DownonthePharm]

Needing to learn physics is like needing to learn the rules of a very complex game before you play it.

That being said I hated physics too. All two semesters of it, although the second was more interesting because we got to play with waveforms and stuff. I see the point of taking it. But I think its usually presented veeeery pooorly. I think if I had taken calculus based physics it would have seemed more relevant.

 

[PotatoSalad]

With the logic you are using you could apply the same argument to Calculus too. And some of that biology is boring as hell (who wants to learn about animal diversity, anyways?).

The physics and math is all about problem solving, and it's there to seperate the men from the boys (and women from the girls...). I agree with you, I find mechanics to boring to care for, but I can see why it is a pre-req.

 

[TrojanAnteater]

if you feel that way now, you are going to LOVE pharmacokinetics!

I was under the impression pharmacokinetics was more like the statistical mechanics and dynamics class that was part of Physical Chemistry series where I went. You know all those different reaction equations, rates, graphs, etc. Am I close?

 

[dgroulx]

I was under the impression pharmacokinetics was more like the statistical mechanics and dynamics class that was part of Physical Chemistry series where I went. You know all those different reaction equations, rates, graphs, etc. Am I close?

Pharmacokinetics is reading the word problem (patient case), choosing the correct equations from your arsenal, because it will take more than one equation to get all the information requested, then getting the correct answers in the limited amount of time given to you.

I was racing the clock on our final. I managed to finish with 10 seconds to spare but didn't have time to go back and check anything.

 

[Caverject]

Pharmacokinetics is reading the word problem (patient case), choosing the correct equations from your arsenal, because it will take more than one equation to get all the information requested, then getting the correct answers in the limited amount of time given to you.

I was racing the clock on our final. I managed to finish with 10 seconds to spare but didn't have time to go back and check anything.

What she said!

A lot of people don't even finish, like myself!

 

[aznpharmgurl10]

Would you recommend taking calc based physics?

Needing to learn physics is like needing to learn the rules of a very complex game before you play it.

That being said I hated physics too. All two semesters of it, although the second was more interesting because we got to play with waveforms and stuff. I see the point of taking it. But I think its usually presented veeeery pooorly. I think if I had taken calculus based physics it would have seemed more relevant.

 

[aubieRx]

you know what? I think part of the reason i hate physics so badly is it is my last req before i start pharmacy school in the fall.

its sort of last minute pressure to take it in the summer when your mind is like in beach boys mode.

occasionally the problems are interesting to solve but i do not enjoy the pressure of the test. plus i dont like the way the professor chooses to try and make thingswa way way way more complicated than they need to be for a bunch of pre-med/pre-pharm/pre-dental majors.

I shoulda taken it at a community college!

edit: in other words he tries to confuse you and then boosts the scale up witha curve rather than everone understanding everything and feeling ok during a test.

 

[DownonthePharm]

edit: in other words he tries to confuse you and then boosts the scale up witha curve rather than everone understanding everything and feeling ok during a test.

Oooh I HATE that. I think some teachers love to confuse so that they can be the "big smart teacher". The (first) time I took Organic chemistry the class average was a 30%!!!! A's started at 60%. I still got a C. Took it again with a teacher that knew how to teach and magically an A appeared.

 

[aubieRx]

Oooh I HATE that. I think some teachers love to confuse so that they can be the "big smart teacher". The (first) time I took Organic chemistry the class average was a 30%!!!! A's started at 60%. I still got a C. Took it again with a teacher that knew how to teach and magically an A appeared.

\yeah i think that is ridiculous the average was so low in your class! it depresses the students and makes them feel like they aren't learning anything.

I think the teacher should try and test what you ought to know based on a reasonable amount of study time and grasping the important ideas, not test the very limits of the subject matter and show you how much you don't know!

 

[Requiem]

There are courses like that for every single program or degree, no matter what you choose. Any science degree here requires first year math + two courses in at least two other sciences, so you get a subject that isn't related to your field of interest.

The physics teaches and tests problem solving. While I hated my professor who taught this course (it was a new course which only ran only once before our class took it, first time they said it was 'too easy' so they made it INSANELY difficult), I was solving problems. Many, many very LONG and difficult problems. I suppose you can question why doing a double integral on the electric potential of a uniform circular disk orientated at 30 degrees above the z-axis relates to pharmacy, but it's solving a problem. It's just the subject matter isn't relevant, solving problems is. I didn't like some of it either, but I loved solving a problem and seeing it correct, or aceing a test because I enjoy problem solving. What problems i'm actually solving is irrelevant 😉

But to be honest, I had to take general biology and sorry plants/ fungus are infinitely more times boring than the calculus E&M physics.

At least the physics is an advanced level, a 2 year old can learn the biology.

 

[jammocah]

But to be honest, I had to take general biology and sorry plants/ fungus are infinitely more times boring than the calculus E&M physics.

At least the physics is an advanced level, a 2 year old can learn the biology.

haha.. I agree!! Bio = a mere test on memorization

Math and Physics were way more stimulating for me and I actually felt challenged. Having great teachers always helps too 🙂

 

[aubieRx]

. Many, many very LONG and difficult problems. I suppose you can question why doing a double integral on the electric potential of a uniform circular disk orientated at 30 degrees above the z-axis relates to pharmacy, but it's solving a problem.


At least the physics is an advanced level, a 2 year old can learn the biology.

meh!


I actually don't think the trig based physics is all that difficult (I got a 97 on the first test) I just find it b-ooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrring (to me, it is the definition of loser subject matter....I do not understand people who can be entertained by mere numbers). My mind has more of a slant towards being verbal/artsy than most of the pharmacy majors I am around so I am somewhat of a jack of all trades.

And there are people who (Believe it or not) have to drop out of pre pharm bc of freshman bio and chem so you don't have to sound so arrogant. 90 percent of the general population could not pass freshman chem. Of that I am almost certain.

The people in the college classes are not a realistic picture of what most people can do. Especially two year olds 🙂

 

[PharmDeb]

I absolutely hated Physics. Uh...say that again...you want me to find the amount of torque that the engine is applying to the drum of what mass? in order to pull this crate at what acceleration? with the cable passing a pully over of what radius? My teacher was a little bitty guy, about 5' tall, but man could he yell. During tests he would walk around the room screaming that we were taking too long. He always said (rather yelled) that the reason we were there was to learn how to think. And I did...I thought about how much I'd just love to smack him... 😍

 

[aubieRx]

what kind of animal is that in your avvie?

i have said it before but ill say it again..i love its frowny little face

 

[PharmDeb]

what kind of animal is that in your avvie?

i have said it before but ill say it again..i love its frowny little face

Yeah, I just posted back to you over in the PCAT section. It's a baby pygmy marmoset. I couldn't get the whole picture to show how really tiny it is.

 

[bananaface]

What she said!

A lot of people don't even finish, like myself!

I shouldn't be laughing. Sorry.

 

[baggywrinkle]

I hated most of physics (compared to other sciences such as biology or chemistry), but I guess there are some useful things like how fluids move through tubes for instance. The other 99.99% of physics seemed like a waste.

A Pharmacist's education would not be complete without doing at least one stress analysis on a strapless evening gown. 😀

 

[aubieRx]

Yeah, I just posted back to you over in the PCAT section. It's a baby pygmy marmoset. I couldn't get the whole picture to show how really tiny it is.

awwww I want one as a pet now.

 

[Caverject]

awwww I want one as a pet now.

How about a pet elephant?

 

[nikkai]

Well... the advantage of taking physics classes is that it teaches one to think in a methodical and logical manner - much in lines of a FORTRAN/VB/C++ coding class.

The material itself may not be directly pertinent to the field (though the skills do arise every once in a blue moon - and having those skills already makes it possible to enjoy that blue moon that much more), the critical thinking is crucial to the development of great scholars.

That being said, if they had required a class that solely focused on Chemical Synthesis from scratch, maybe physics would not be as needed. 😛

 

[aubieRx]

How about a pet elephant?

no its not nearly as pesterish as the baby marmoset.

 

[aubieRx]

"> i suppose they grow up into these then?

if i was another primate besides a human this would be it.

id enjoy curling my tail into a ball and frowning whilst adjusting my magnificent bouffant hairdo with my tiny opposable thumbs.

but then again, who wouldn't?

 

[DownonthePharm]

Oh dear. That IS cute.

That would make the neatest looking little pet. It could sit on your shoulder and mess with your hair. 🙂

 

[badears]

👍 I wonder if you can train that little critter to deal with angry customers at the pharmacy?

Patient: Hey! What the heck is this co-pay? <sees the little dude> Awwww...all is forgiven. Why not? Sure, I will 100 dollars....I just wanna see that little dude

 

[jmhousem]

That would make the neatest looking little pet. It could sit on your shoulder and mess with your hair. 🙂

Or it could sit in your hair and mess on your shoulder. 🙄

 

[aubieRx]

i wonder what kind of noises it makes 😕