Who is still holding onto multiple acceptances?

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Just wondering how much more movement will be seen on the waitlists, and this is a part of that equation. How many of y'all are still holding on to multiple acceptances?
 
Just wondering how much more movement will be seen on the waitlists, and this is a part of that equation. How many of y'all are still holding on to multiple acceptances?

Although it doesnt apply to me, I think holding multiple acceptances this long is NOT fair to students on waitlists. You people are literally screwing them over the longer you hold on
 
Blame the schools not your fellow students. If you're going to drop up to $3k on a deposit and not get it back, you deserve as much time as you want. Either DO schools should adopt the MD system or the people waitlisted should have tried harder and applied earlier.

Hey hey now. Neither comment was very kind and both of you are making some assumptions. Yes the system is ****ty for people on waitlists, but that system is made more ****ty by people who just hang on to 2+ seats because they "cant make up their mind." I know four people who currently have 2+ acceptances and are just being indecisive. Secondly, the notion of "if you pay the 3k you deserve as much time as you want" is a little classist and speaks to the ****ty system. You shouldn't get more time to decide simply because you have easy access to 3k...but regardless, we are off topic. Back to the real question!
 
Blame the schools not your fellow students. If you're going to drop up to $3k on a deposit and not get it back, you deserve as much time as you want. Either DO schools should adopt the MD system or the people waitlisted should have tried harder and applied earlier.


Kind of an *****hole statement there..I tried pretty damn hard and applied in July and yet I ended up on a few wait lists...so you sir or madame are ignorant. Your blanket statements are sad, but is typical for a self centered individual, which judging by your comment and subsequent revision, seem to be.

Thank you


(but I do agree that the schools should change their policies, especially since DO really isn't as big of a backup as it used to be)
 
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I edited my post to make it come off nicer but you beat me to it.

The people who applied early and worked hard to get accepted shouldn't have to lose thousands of dollars and risk making the wrong decision just because the people waitlisted don't want to wait a little longer.

And you are still missing the point haha. I think we all WISH that medical school admissions was based on how hard people worked. But anyway, let's not hijack this thread and stay focused on my original question please!
 
Who has the money to hold multiple acceptances at DO schools?

amirite?
 
Who has the money to hold multiple acceptances at DO schools?

amirite?

inorite!

The people who applied early and worked hard to get accepted shouldn't have to lose thousands of dollars and risk making the wrong decision just because the people waitlisted don't want to wait a little longer.

Just pointing out that he rephrased and said 'hard' and not 'harder' 🙂.

It's a sensitive topic, especially at this stage of the cycle, but I fully agree with this statement. It's up to schools to change policies but if I was undecided between 2 schools I'd want as much time as possible.

Students are throwing thousands of dollars into this process and if one was fortunate enough to get multiple acceptances, I'm not going to call him/her selfish for not putting the needs of waitlisted applicants before his/her own needs.

Hope that doesn't come off as harsh. I know what being on a waitlist feels like but I still think it would be dumb to rush if you're not 100% sure.
 
Not to add more gas to the fire, but I feel like we all work hard, whether you're accepted and deciding which school you want to commit to, currently on a waitlist, or even rejected this cycle.

That said, I feel that applicants have had all application year to decide which schools are the best fit for them, so to prolong the dreadful wait for those waiting for an open seat to become available really sucks. I'm accepted pending an open seat, so I know how horrible waiting around for news is :laugh:

Anyway, GOOD LUCK TO EVERYBODY! :luck:
 
Not to add more gas to the fire, but I feel like we all work hard, whether you're accepted and deciding which school you want to commit to, currently on a waitlist, or even rejected this cycle.

That said, I feel that applicants have had all application year to decide which schools are the best fit for them, so to prolong the dreadful wait for those waiting for an open seat to become available really sucks. I'm accepted pending an open seat, so I know how horrible waiting around for news is :laugh:

Anyway, GOOD LUCK TO EVERYBODY! :luck:

Well put, but again, let's stay on topic please. 🙂
 
Sorry I don't mean to further derail this thread....but what is with all this talk of who "worked hard" and who didn't.

Med schools don't accept people based on how hard they've worked, they accept those who are the most competitive applicant.

Some people could literally work as hard as humanly possible and still not have the grades or MCAT scores to be a competitive applicant for med school. Others are lucky enough to barely lift a finger and yet have the innate intelligence to pull astounding grades and MCAT scores.

Obviously how hard one works is strongly connected to how well they will perform on grades/MCAT and how competitive their overall application is, but in the end, med schools don't accept you simply because you "deserve it" due to your work ethic.
 
Sorry I don't mean to further derail this thread....but what is with all this talk of who "worked hard" and who didn't.

Med schools don't accept people based on how hard they've worked, they accept those who are the most competitive applicant.

Some people could literally work as hard as humanly possible and still not have the grades or MCAT scores to be a competitive applicant for med school. Others are lucky enough to barely lift a finger and yet have the innate intelligence to pull astounding grades and MCAT scores.

Obviously how hard one works is strongly connected to how well they will perform on grades/MCAT and how competitive their overall application is, but in the end, med schools don't accept you simply because you "deserve it" due to your work ethic.

Thanks for the comment. But PLEASE FRIENDS!!!!!!! Let's stay on topic. I'm genuinely interested in the original post, so please do not respond any more unless you hold multiple acceptances!!!!
 
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Just kidding. I know at Touro Nevada, they told me that about one person or more is withdrawing a week and things should really start moving in June 🙂
 
I'm holding multiple seats right now and do not feel bad at all. I know where I want to go but its almost twice the price of another school, so I am trying to figure out some financial stuff and see if it is doable.
 
I'm holding multiple seats right now and do not feel bad at all. I know where I want to go but its almost twice the price of another school, so I am trying to figure out some financial stuff and see if it is doable.

Thanks. I'm not asking people to feel bad or expecting them to care one way or another. There are NO ulterior motives here people haha. Just trying to see how common it is at this point in the game. Thanks again.
 
Thanks. I'm not asking people to feel bad or expecting them to care one way or another. There are NO ulterior motives here people haha. Just trying to see how common it is at this point in the game. Thanks again.

I wasn't saying that to you, your motives seem pure.
 
Just wondering how much more movement will be seen on the waitlists, and this is a part of that equation. How many of y'all are still holding on to multiple acceptances?

I'm holding on to two acceptances. I know it's not your intention to make anybody feel bad for doing so, but I think with the cost of DO deposits people should take as much time as they need to make very well informed decisions about all aspects of their potential school. I have $3500 tied up between the two and it took me some time to weigh the pros and cons and talk to current students at the different schools, measure out long term financial differences, and overall make an incredibly arduous and important decision. I reached my decision a couple of weeks ago, and I am still holding on to my acceptance at the other school and I'm not going to withdraw until all of my initial paperwork, deposit, and information is fully processed and I'm 100% positive that I'm enrolled in the school I plan to attend. That being said, I received a phone call from my choice school today and everything appears to be in order, so I will likely be making that withdrawal tomorrow.

I have deliberately tried to expedite the process with the school I plan on attending because I don't want to drag out my withdrawal and I want to make somebody's day sooner rather than later, and afford them plenty of time to get their affairs in order for their matriculation. However I definitely was not going to make a hasty move before I was comfortable, and I don't think anybody else should either.
 
The huge deposits cause multiple acceptance people to hang on to them. I held two acceptances for about 6 months this year because once you withdraw, it's gone. You need to make sure you're making a good decision. I literally went back and forth between my choices on a nearly daily basis. I finally made the decision on the day that a second huge deposit was due.
 
If people have earned multiple acceptances then they deserve whatever time period they are allowed to make a choice. They aren't taking a seat from anybody, they're just slowing the process down a bit and besides a bunch of nervous energy it's really not that big of a deal. I was holding multiple before the may 15th deadline for a few months and its whiny people like in this thread that made me keep them right until the end :laugh:
 
I was holding multiple before the may 15th deadline for a few months and its whiny people like in this thread that made me keep them right until the end :laugh:

Yeah, because that makes any logical sense.

This decision isn't that difficult to make in a timely manner, unless you are still waiting on financial aid award s/statements. It's inconsiderate to your fellow applicants. It's your right to take your time to decide, but out of fairness or in a similar spirit to sportsmanship (or outright respect of your peers rather than self-absorbed selfishness) it should be done as soon as possible. Especially with the DO schools as the deposits are so high. Make your decision and move on. There isn't much of a reason to pay multiple DO deposits unless you have to bite that bullet as you wait to hear back post-interview from your top or preferred choices. The high deposits are meant to deter this kind of behavior and push people to make decisions. If myself and others were able to make our decisions fairly quick, I'm certain other applicants can unless they're lazy and don't take the time to weigh their options and make a decision.

Holding multiple MD acceptances makes more sense due to them being refundable and the financial aid incentives, but make your choice in a reasonable time-frame. Then you can get on with your life and make future plans while enjoying your spring/summer, and other applicants may have the opportunity to move off a waitlist.
 
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Wow, and I have officially lost hope on this thread. You all are obnoxious and rather disrespectful to each other, get a grip. Thanks yet again for hijacking a thread for your ridiculous banter.
 
well when I first read the title of the thread, I knew it was gonna get to this point.
 
I edited my post to make it come off nicer but you beat me to it.

The people who applied early and worked hard to get accepted shouldn't have to lose thousands of dollars and risk making the wrong decision just because the people waitlisted don't want to wait a little longer.

Dude, it's almost JUNE! Some schools start this month and some start next month. if they haven't decided by now, I'd say they really don't want to go to med school. Sorry, but this isn't rocket science. Pick a freaking school!
 
Hope that doesn't come off as harsh. I know what being on a waitlist feels like but I still think it would be dumb to rush if you're not 100% sure.

Unless these people just got their acceptances last week, how is this rushing? Seriously, do you think it takes until June to decide which school you want to intend? May acceptances, I can see, but really, if someone is accepted in May, chances are they don't have more than one offer. Everyone else has had forever to make up their mind.
 
Thanks for the comment. But PLEASE FRIENDS!!!!!!! Let's stay on topic. I'm genuinely interested in the original post, so please do not respond any more unless you hold multiple acceptances!!!!

Chill out. Don't you think if someone wanted to answer your question, they would?
 
I reached my decision a couple of weeks ago, and I am still holding on to my acceptance at the other school and I'm not going to withdraw until all of my initial paperwork, deposit, and information is fully processed and I'm 100% positive that I'm enrolled in the school I plan to attend.

Just in case they pull the acceptance offer and say "sike"?
 
If people have earned multiple acceptances then they deserve whatever time period they are allowed to make a choice. They aren't taking a seat from anybody, they're just slowing the process down a bit and besides a bunch of nervous energy it's really not that big of a deal. I was holding multiple before the may 15th deadline for a few months and its whiny people like in this thread that made me keep them right until the end :laugh:

You're a prince. Wish I could have your karma.
 
They aren't taking a seat from anybody, they're just slowing the process down a bit and besides a bunch of nervous energy it's really not that big of a deal.

I chuckle at this black-and-white thinking. What about the folks who are in limbo with re-applying? They have to submit their application if they want to get in at the start of the cycle and that costs money. What about the ones in limbo with the MCAT? They have to register for it if they're going to retake in time to have their score for this cycle? But hey, don't worry about them, so long as you get to sit on your perch and laugh.

Tip for you -- you're about to be a med student. It's time to put on your big girl/boy pants, get a spine, and learn to look at the gray.
 
I chuckle at this black-and-white thinking. What about the folks who are in limbo with re-applying? They have to submit their application if they want to get in at the start of the cycle and that costs money. What about the ones in limbo with the MCAT? They have to register for it if they're going to retake in time to have their score for this cycle? But hey, don't worry about them, so long as you get to sit on your perch and laugh.

Tip for you -- you're about to be a med student. It's time to put on your big girl/boy pants, get a spine, and learn to look at the gray.

Exactly my position. I am on a waitlist and have my apartment lease ending next month with no idea if I should resign or find a couch and June 1st in less than 2 weeks in which I am going to reapply and spend over a month's worth of rent that I don't have. Really hoping I don't pay for my new primaries then get a spot a day later, but such is life. *Stressing about limbo and the unknown* :scared::xf:
 
Exactly my position. I am on a waitlist and have my apartment lease ending next month with no idea if I should resign or find a couch and June 1st in less than 2 weeks in which I am going to reapply and spend over a month's worth of rent that I don't have. Really hoping I don't pay for my new primaries then get a spot a day later, but such is life. *Stressing about limbo and the unknown* :scared::xf:
damn I am in the EXACT situation. i REALLY hope that I get in off the waitlist before june. Otherwise Im gonna have to fork over hundreds of dollars to Re apply. And I dont know where I am gonna get the money. Let alone, If I do get pulled off a week before classes how the heck am I gonna get down there in time. Seriosly, it DOESNT take this long to decide at all. Were grown ups here. Unless financial aid is involved or you just recieved an acceptance. you should know where to go.

but to the OP there was no way this thread was not gonna turn out like this lol sorry bud.
 
Just in case they pull the acceptance offer and say "sike"?

More along the lines of scrounging up a $1500 deposit within a two week time period and clearing a minor citation I received years ago with the hospitals I will be rotating at. It's not exactly black and white to just pick a school. Maybe you should put on your big girl/boy pants, and learn to look at the gray.

I chuckle at this black-and-white thinking. What about the folks who are in limbo with re-applying? They have to submit their application if they want to get in at the start of the cycle and that costs money. What about the ones in limbo with the MCAT? They have to register for it if they're going to retake in time to have their score for this cycle? But hey, don't worry about them, so long as you get to sit on your perch and laugh.

Tip for you -- you're about to be a med student. It's time to put on your big girl/boy pants, get a spine, and learn to look at the gray.

I completely agree with you on this, and my 2nd acceptance at the school I plan to attend came in May. I accepted my new offer on May 17th and I hope the week that I have been waiting for everything to clear hasn't severely put anybody out of money, time, or effort. People with multiple acceptances should choose in a timely fashion, but they also should not rush into a decision that could potentially negatively impact their life when they may have an option for one that could avoid that.

Also, the multi-quote could serve you well in the future.
 
More along the lines of scrounging up a $1500 deposit within a two week time period and clearing a minor citation I received years ago with the hospitals I will be rotating at. It's not exactly black and white to just pick a school. Maybe you should put on your big girl/boy pants, and learn to look at the gray.

That's a special case, but most people don't have a looming citation or if they do, the school was aware of it during the application process and has already cleared it with rotating hospitals, so while it's not black and white for everyone to pick a school, it certainly is for most.
 
The world isn't fair. None of anyone's complaining is going to help waitlists move faster so instead of harping on each other, just suck it up and deal with the fact that it's just a part of this whole crazy process. You also can't assume everything is black and white for people, sure some are just holding acceptances to hold them but I doubt that's many. I'm sure most people would like to be able to decide and get on with their lives - having multiple accepts puts the accepted kind of in limbo too - they need to find housing for the school year figure out expenses etc... I'd much rather know where i'm going than continually going back and forth between places.

People also have the right to make sure everything is official and finalized with an acceptance they want before withdrawing from another school. It took a lot of time, money and effort and you don't want to screw it up because you didn't cross all your T's and dot all you I's at the end. I would rather be safe than sorry.
 
The world isn't fair. None of anyone's complaining is going to help waitlists move faster so instead of harping on each other, just suck it up and deal with the fact that it's just a part of this whole crazy process. You also can't assume everything is black and white for people, sure some are just holding acceptances to hold them but I doubt that's many. I'm sure most people would like to be able to decide and get on with their lives - having multiple accepts puts the accepted kind of in limbo too - they need to find housing for the school year figure out expenses etc... I'd much rather know where i'm going than continually going back and forth between places.

People also have the right to make sure everything is official and finalized with an acceptance they want before withdrawing from another school. It took a lot of time, money and effort and you don't want to screw it up because you didn't cross all your T's and dot all you I's at the end. I would rather be safe than sorry.

Like I said before, it's almost JUNE. I seriously doubt there are too many people who haven't made a decision yet. Many have already decided where they're going and they're ready to go (I mean, classes start pretty soon). They just haven't withdrawn from other places yet.

Secondly, it's not about things being "fair." It's about being considerate and if you know, without a doubt, where you're going, withdraw from other schools.

I applaud Druggernaut for doing that today!
 
I read this thread and withdrew from my other acceptance today. Now someone do it at LECOM-B!

Withdrew my aforementioned acceptance via email today also. Will be sending in a letter tomorrow as well.
 
I denied a couple schools and holding onto one acceptance at MSUCOM. I'm only doing it because I really want to go to VCOM-Blacksburg, but applied soo late to the school and I'm on their "top tier" waitlist. I mean holding onto an acceptance shouldn't always be looked at as if the person is being an a**hole. People have their reasons and some schools do a poor job on updating the students on their position, so this create the chaos.
 
Wow, and I have officially lost hope on this thread. You all are obnoxious and rather disrespectful to each other, get a grip. Thanks yet again for hijacking a thread for your ridiculous banter.

Jesus you're an annoying character. The only obnoxious one is you and your please obey me/ holier than thou attitude. This is a free thread and they are in fact discussing the topic through their own approach.
Be happy this thread hasn't be lolcat'd...

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Wow, and I have officially lost hope on this thread. You all are obnoxious and rather disrespectful to each other, get a grip. Thanks yet again for hijacking a thread for your ridiculous banter.

Jesus you're an annoying character. The only obnoxious one is you and your please obey me/ dizzying pseudo-intellectualism attitude. This is a free thread and they have not altered the original purpose of this thread. If you wanted to see a hijacking then this thread would be lolcat'd...

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I denied a couple schools and holding onto one acceptance at MSUCOM. I'm only doing it because I really want to go to VCOM-Blacksburg, but applied soo late to the school and I'm on their "top tier" waitlist. I mean holding onto an acceptance shouldn't always be looked at as if the person is being an a**hole. People have their reasons and some schools do a poor job on updating the students on their position, so this create the chaos.

Hope you get into VCOM-Blacksburg :xf:. Let me know if you do and I'll see you there in August!
 
Like I said before, it's almost JUNE. I seriously doubt there are too many people who haven't made a decision yet. Many have already decided where they're going and they're ready to go (I mean, classes start pretty soon). They just haven't withdrawn from other places yet.

Secondly, it's not about things being "fair." It's about being considerate and if you know, without a doubt, where you're going, withdraw from other schools.

I applaud Druggernaut for doing that today!


What exactly are you basing this on? You have just decided and declared that most of the people who are holding on to more than 1 acceptance have basically just "not gotten around" to withdrawing their acceptances. How do you know this?

I would argue that people don't hold on to multiple accetpances once they have decided where they are attending because there is no point in doing so. Sure, some people may hold on for awhile while they are being a bit indecisive regarding what school to attend, but that is their preogative.

The only people I would have a problem with are people who know where they are attending, but haven't had the consideration to drop their other acceptances. If you don't KNOW where you will attend (for any reason), I see no reason why you should feel pressured or rushed to make this important decision.

By the way, this is coming from someone who is on the waitlist of a school he very much wants to attend. I understand it may be easier for me to be so casual about since I am fortunate to have been accepted at other schools where I would be happy to attend, but I certainly have something to gain by having people let go of their acceptances to this particular school.
 
What exactly are you basing this on? You have just decided and declared that most of the people who are holding on to more than 1 acceptance have basically just "not gotten around" to withdrawing their acceptances. How do you know this?

I would argue that people don't hold on to multiple accetpances once they have decided where they are attending because there is no point in doing so. Sure, some people may hold on for awhile while they are being a bit indecisive regarding what school to attend, but that is their preogative.

The only people I would have a problem with are people who know where they are attending, but haven't had the consideration to drop their other acceptances. If you don't KNOW where you will attend (for any reason), I see no reason why you should feel pressured or rushed to make this important decision.

By the way, this is coming from someone who is on the waitlist of a school he very much wants to attend. I understand it may be easier for me to be so casual about since I am fortunate to have been accepted at other schools where I would be happy to attend, but I certainly have something to gain by having people let go of their acceptances to this particular school.

I personally think that if you've paid the deposit you can wait as long as you like to make a well informed and educated decision. Is it nice towards others? Probably not so much, but the reality is that, this is not a light decision and one which will impact your life for many years to come. The position of others should unfortunately, come second to your own.
Personally I think that when I begin application I'll more than likely not keep many acceptances for many reasons, but if I find 2 schools which I cannot decide which is best, then hell. I will take my time and do research to make sure I choose the one which is best for me and myself. I apologize if that means others will have to be negatively impacted for a while.

TL;DR : Hierarchical importance in this process: My Happiness and ability to become a doctor at the best school of choice >>> Other peoples.

However to save face... I personally will not likely hold multiple acceptances and I'm saying this strictly from a realistic and idealistic perspective ( In reality I'll be more considerate and decline acceptances to schools which I won't attend quickly and not hold up the waitlists too much).
 
I denied a couple schools and holding onto one acceptance at MSUCOM. I'm only doing it because I really want to go to VCOM-Blacksburg, but applied soo late to the school and I'm on their "top tier" waitlist. I mean holding onto an acceptance shouldn't always be looked at as if the person is being an a**hole. People have their reasons and some schools do a poor job on updating the students on their position, so this create the chaos.

That's completely different! No one is going to blame you for holding on to your one acceptance while you await a waitlist decision from your top choice. Good luck! I hope you get the call!
 
What exactly are you basing this on? You have just decided and declared that most of the people who are holding on to more than 1 acceptance have basically just "not gotten around" to withdrawing their acceptances. How do you know this?

(a) from people who've admitted it, both in this thread and others over the years

(b) common sense. How many people do you really think haven't decided between schools this late in the game? A few sure, but not many.

I would argue that people don't hold on to multiple accetpances once they have decided where they are attending because there is no point in doing so.

In this thread alone, that hypothesis was proven to be wrong.

The only people I would have a problem with are people who know where they are attending, but haven't had the consideration to drop their other acceptances. If you don't KNOW where you will attend (for any reason), I see no reason why you should feel pressured or rushed to make this important decision.

Again, it's nearly June. Who's rushing?

By the way, this is coming from someone who is on the waitlist of a school he very much wants to attend. I understand it may be easier for me to be so casual about since I am fortunate to have been accepted at other schools where I would be happy to attend, but I certainly have something to gain by having people let go of their acceptances to this particular school.

And? I'm a first year. I have nothing to gain either way from this conversation.
 
I just W/D from 2+ acceptances last week. Admittedly, I was holding onto them for 6+ months waiting on FinAid info to come through. I don't think anyone is selfish for holding onto a seat, FWIW.
 
(a) from people who've admitted it, both in this thread and others over the years

(b) common sense. How many people do you really think haven't decided between schools this late in the game? A few sure, but not many.



In this thread alone, that hypothesis was proven to be wrong.



Again, it's nearly June. Who's rushing?



And? I'm a first year. I have nothing to gain either way from this conversation.


Where exactly are the people in this thread who have stated they are holding on to multiple acceptances simply because they "haven't gotten around to it". You state that people in this thread have proven that to be true, but everyone who has chimed in here who is holding on to multiple acceptances seem to have very valid and concrete reasons for doing so.
 
Where exactly are the people in this thread who have stated they are holding on to multiple acceptances simply because they "haven't gotten around to it". You state that people in this thread have proven that to be true, but everyone who has chimed in here who is holding on to multiple acceptances seem to have very valid and concrete reasons for doing so.

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If people have earned multiple acceptances then they deserve whatever time period they are allowed to make a choice. They aren't taking a seat from anybody, they're just slowing the process down a bit and besides a bunch of nervous energy it's really not that big of a deal. I was holding multiple before the may 15th deadline for a few months and its whiny people like in this thread that made me keep them right until the end
 
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I see...so your proof that "many people are holding on to multiple acceptances when they know what school they are attending" is based on one single post. You've chosen to ignore every other post made by people who have offered valid and understandable reasons for holding onto multiple acceptances, and instead made a generalization based on the single exception.

If anything, the comments in this thread suggest the exact opposite of what you are proposing: People hold onto multiple acceptances when they have good reason to do so, and withdraw them once everything is in order. Yes...1 person made a spiteful comment stating he would hold onto multiple acceptances for no good reason. 1 Person.
 
I see...so your proof that "many people are holding on to multiple acceptances when they know what school they are attending" is based on one single post. You've chosen to ignore every other post made by people who have offered valid and understandable reasons for holding onto multiple acceptances, and instead made a generalization based on the single exception.

Way to selectively read what I wrote so that you can misunderstand it and post according to what you think I should have said. What I actually said was that my opinion was based on posts in this "and other threads over the years." I've been on SDN since 2006. Do you think this is the first thread I've seen on this topic? Secondly, I acknowledged that some have legit reasons for waiting, while also acknowledging that it's JUNE. Very few people are still in limbo for legit reasons. Just b/c there aren't more a-holes posting about how they're keeping their acceptances for the hell of it, don't assume they don't exist.
 
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