Why are some schools unranked by USNEWS?

[sam500]

What is the significance of a school being "unranked" on US NEWS?

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[Frazier]

What is the significance of a school being "unranked" on US NEWS?

They chose not to participate.

 

[sam500]

They chose not to participate.

Thanks.

 

[sector9]

Thanks.

Or they're ranked below number 100

 

[Musclemass]

Or they're ranked below number 100

+1

A quick glance at those that are unranked or unpublished shows schools that seem to have more in common reputation-wise with one another than with those higher up the list.

Not that a particular ranking (in and of itself) really matters.

 

[NickNaylor]

Until last year Mayo was unranked; I think we can all agree that's not a sub-par school.

Rankings are silly.

 

[CodeBlu]

Until last year Mayo was unranked; I think we can all agree that's not a sub-par school.

Rankings are silly.

Veritas. NickNaylor has spoken.

/thread

 

[sam500]

Until last year Mayo was unranked; I think we can all agree that's not a sub-par school.

Rankings are silly.

I wouldn't say rankings are silly.

They're useful information. It's up to the individual to determine how useful they are.

It's my understanding that the often quoted "rank" refers to NIH research funding. Or some sort of research quality/quantity score.

To me, this is useful information, but doesn't offer a complete picture of what a school offers.

Saying all this, is anyone familiar with Penn State's or Albany's relative abundance of research opportunities?

Cheers,
Sam

 

[Snuke]

Until last year Mayo was unranked; I think we can all agree that's not a sub-par school.

Rankings are silly.

I'm still surprised they chose to be ranked this year. Almost all of their research is privately funded, not through NIH.

I think that ranking is not inherently silly, because some schools do have more advantages than others, but the method of ranking by USNews is silly. Ranking is much more subjective than a hard number.

 

[Smachadams]

Just because a school is ranked #7 doesn't mean that its the ideal school for you, think about what you need from a school and go from there, obviously reaching as high as your stats can take you is a good general rule

 

[gmcguitar4]

Check it..NYU received a big ***** NIH grant this year

http://communications.med.nyu.edu/m...ngone-medical-center-and-partnering-instituti

I get to work on it too 😀

 

[Brachyury]

I wouldn't say rankings are silly.

They're useful information. It's up to the individual to determine how useful they are.

It's my understanding that the often quoted "rank" refers to NIH research funding. Or some sort of research quality/quantity score.

To me, this is useful information, but doesn't offer a complete picture of what a school offers.

Saying all this, is anyone familiar with Penn State's or Albany's relative abundance of research opportunities?

Cheers,
Sam

According to NIH RePORT, last year, Penn state 55 million in NIH funding; Albany had 12 million in NIH funding

 

[AZFutureDoc]

I think its funny that the top ranking schools arent afraid to talk about them on their school websites, even if they dont necessarily hold much weight. Ive never really understood the general hate that us news rankings get from SDN, especially among the biggest, most respected users here...

 

[WhizoMD]

I think its funny that the top ranking schools arent afraid to talk about them on their school websites, even if they dont necessarily hold much weight. Ive never really understood the general hate that us news rankings get from SDN, especially among the biggest, most respected users here...

They're maligned because they rank the schools using parameters that aren't really relevant unless you're research/academic medicine oriented. None of the parameters (apart from the peer assessment, maybe) address the quality of education/resources at the schools.

Answer to OP question:
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Schools/programs marked as Ranked Not Published are listed alphabetically. In both medical schools research and medical schools primary care, we have numerically ranked the top three-fourths of the graduate medical schools. The bottom one-quarter of the research medical schools and primary care medical schools are listed as Rank Not Published and are listed alphabetically.

Unranked means that U.S. News did not calculate a numerical ranking for that school or program. The school or program did not supply U.S. News with enough key statistical data to be numerically ranked by U.S. News. Schools or programs marked as Unranked are listed alphabetically and are listed below those marked as Rank Not Published."