Sorry if this is a silly question, but why do doctors use pagers when cell phones are available? It would be one less thing for you to remember to carry around and charge. Why not just send a text message to a phone?
Sorry if this is a silly question, but why do doctors use pagers when cell phones are available? It would be one less thing for you to remember to carry around and charge. Why not just send a text message to a phone?
Sorry if this is a silly question, but why do doctors use pagers when cell phones are available? It would be one less thing for you to remember to carry around and charge. Why not just send a text message to a phone?
Sorry if this is a silly question, but why do doctors use pagers when cell phones are available? It would be one less thing for you to remember to carry around and charge. Why not just send a text message to a phone?
Because sometimes you need a couple minutes to either wake up or suppress your rage before you interact with another human being.
(Or after it's been accidentally flushed down the toilet...hey, it happens!)
Yeah. I know firsthand that pagers really don't like that. (It was an accident! I swear!)
Yeah. I know firsthand that pagers really don't like that. (It was an accident! I swear!)
or maybe voice capability to record and carry voicemail--now that would be pretty valuable, s
In addition to all above posts, some hospital floors do not allow cell phone use.
If only pagers can be used, it would be nice if these pagers had at least texting capability--where you can type the message to the receiver from the pager itself, or maybe voice capability to record and carry voicemail--now that would be pretty valuable, so the paged person knows what the pages is about, or both voice messaging and text capabilities. that's my dream pager
Happened to me too once. I totally believe you about it being an accident. It was an accident for me too.
How did you have time to use the bathroom while on trauma call?
When I was in Cali, a lot of the hospitals used Spectralink wireless phones. Voice communiation without cellular airtime cost and lower-power transmission meant reduced possible interference with medical equipment.
I'd imagine the cost would be between pagers and cell phones.
Haven't seen them here in Bflo.
The pager system is not broke, and there are plenty of reasons to continue its use, why are some of us contemplating another system which is not as convenient and has lots of problems?
Perhaps this is a form of "reverse technophobia". The young'uns today are so into their i-phones and other new-fangled technology that when they see something as archaic as a pager they freak out.
Having to find a phone in some cases is really tough and can cost a patient's life and additionally have to wait the time of someone to answer a page to get back to you, especially in a code situation, so that would be the benefit of being able to use a non-interference cells in a hospital. Then again i guess they call codes over head, but some don't hear the overhead call.
On the other hand a pager gives you the freedom to ignore.which I'm sure a lot of people may need to do because they are busy doing other things.
The one thing I hate though, is having to look for a phone to call someone in an emergency, wishing I could use my cell, because sometimes a phone is nowhere to be found. I guess some people do use their cells anyways though.
other than the dead zone areas, which every hospital seems to have, i wonder if continuing the current paging system is a medico-legal issue. at my hospital, you can call the operator and he/she can quickly check what pages you've received (example: discrepancy between the nurse who has claimed to page you 10 times over the last hour and yourself). i'm sure it's that way elsewhere as well. in a sense, there's a paging log that can be referred to if need be. not sure if that's the reason.
I cannot say I've ever had much trouble finding a phone to return a page although it is frustrating to return a page and find no one claiming to have called you...the wireless phones would eliminate that.
You'd think that would be the case but you'd be wrong. The floor RNs at our VA carry spectralink phones but about 75% of the time when they page you they put the nursing station # as the callback #, even though the phones all have a unique extension. I usually call back and say "tell whoever paged to Dr. Gutonc to page again w/ the right #" and hang up.
At our university hospital, phones are at a premium for reasons I don't quite understand. But on every floor, it turns out that there's a lounge/office/equip/monitoring room that has 10-20 wireless phones that are meant for MD use. Nobody will tell you where these phones are though.
It appears that the OP got so overwhelmed with the typical SDN enthusiastic response to his question about pagers that he simply disappeared from this thread
If found alphanumeric pagers to be the most useful. If you can't say it in 250 characters, it's probably not important.
A text page from the lab 'critical value, Pt Mills, Gary K=5.9, callback required x6996' tells you all you need to know. You return the call when you have time which allows the lab-drone to enter 'dr f_w notified' into his call-log.
I worked at a place with the spectralink phones. In theory, it allows you to get hold of the person taking care of your patient. In reality, the RN who's spectralink number you got as the patients 'primary RN' is either 'on break' or whoever picks up 'just came on shift' and can't tell you what's going on either.
BTW, OPs disappearing is one of my SDN pet peeves.
Yeah.. it is almost as annoying as when people change their screen names (ducking for cover)
that sounds great. funny though, the hospital i'm at claimed doing texting patient names is a hipaa violation!
VHF/UHF radios used by security personnel DO interfere with medical equipment. I remember an article that looked at typical microwave cellphones, the only way interference could be generated was by placing the phone directly onto a monitor. The VHF/UHF radios otoh could switch some older types of IV pumps into safety mode (pump stops pumping, clamps the tubing and alarms) from several feet away.
A student of mine was an engineer before going to medschool. One of his jobs was to test the influence of defibrillators on aircraft avionics. Apparently discharging a defibrillator can reset some navigational equipment on board of helicopters. So they generally try to avoid shocking people while flying in instrument meteorological conditions (--> inadequate visibility to know which side is up without flight instruments).
Anytime I try to kill something in a hospital committee, I claim it's a HIPAA violation. Unless the other side is very committed to the cause and gets an opinion from corporate legal that it is NOT, the issue usually goes away. (hipaa is the lazy hospital administrative midlevels managers universal tool to quash any proposal that requires him or her to do work).
If text-paging onto a hospital issued (logged audited) pager is a hipaa violation, how is giving the information to anyone who calls back after a page not a violation ?
Yeah.. it is almost as annoying as when people change their screen names (ducking for cover)
logging pages..or just logging in general...nice concept.
hate how some claim they called and you never see their page..and sometimes ur pager dies on you...how else r u going to trace those calls if there's no logging system?
Are pagers really better, or is the current popularity of pagers merely a historical accident resulting from pagers preceeding cellphones? If cellphone were around and widely used in hospitals for decades, and then a telecom company came out with a newfangled "pager" would it be warmly recieved? "You want me to go find a phone every time someone wants to talk to me?" "There's not voicemail so they can't leave a message?"
It's hard to say because the system has been set up as a pager-based on. It is hard to imagine how different things might be if the system has been set up to be cell-phone based.
If they can devise a cell which does not drop calls, which is accessible in all areas of the hospital, which can send multiple pages to teams at the same time and for which checking messages is much quicker, then I'm sold.
Let's see when you're an attending and everyone knows who you are, if you still feel comfortable posting "out in the open" on SDN.
OOOH.. does this mean those of us who remember your former SN have blackmail material? Send cookies or your darkest secrets shall be revealed. And none of those cookies that sneak raisins in trying to fool you into thinking they are chocolate chips. I hate chocolate chip imposters.
It's called a NexTel
Used to have one for private use. It does pretty much everything you have in your RFP there, I hated to give it up after I moved to a corner of the country they don't cover.