Why DO?

[PuKcAo]

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What made you guys chose osteopathic vs allopathic? was it a book, a family doctor...what? lets get some real testimonies going...i'm interested in what makes people chose osteopathic medicine

 

[TexHealth]

'cause we couldn't get into MD schools 👍 and everyone who disagrees, ACCEPT IT.

 

[DORoe]

I chose osteopathic medicine for a number of reasons. The first being a good relationship with a number of DO's throughout my life. I have always went to DO's for a wide range of medical problems. My family doc is a DO, my surgeon was a DO, and the sport's medicine doc I went to was a DO. These people always impressed me and made me do some research into the profession. Secondly, the school that I attend is wonderful. I thought that it was a great place before I applied and now I know just how good it is. Thirdly, I wanted to learn OMM. I was and still am very interested in using manipulation as another means of helping my patients gain wellness. Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, I wanted to be a doctor. The DO route allowed me to do this. For that I am very thankful. I am not big into MD vs. DO and I certainly am not naive enough to believe that we somehow have the market cornered on treating the whole person, but there is a difference IMHO on how the two types of doctors approach medicine. However, this may be a product of really great experiences with DO's and some not so great experiences with MD's.

PuKcAo: I noticed that you post a lot in pre-allo. Are you considering applying to DO schools?

 

[DORoe]

'cause we couldn't get into MD schools 👍 and everyone who disagrees, ACCEPT IT.

Oh, I forgot to mention the fact that I don't have to deal with a$$holes like this. That is a big plus.

 

[dr.z]

'cause we couldn't get into MD schools 👍 and everyone who disagrees, ACCEPT IT.

Yes, you are always right! I hope you get into allopathic schools!

See what TexHealth has to say about himself
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=1662201#post1662201

You may get into allopathic school since you are from Texas. It's one of the easiest state to get into medical school. Good luck with other states or other private schools!

 

[PuKcAo]

PuKcAo: I noticed that you post a lot in pre-allo. Are you considering applying to DO schools?

I go to oklahoma state so I am quite familiar with osucom. I would much prefer going to osu than ou based on the reports i get from students attending both. Seems that ou has a bad satisfaction rate. However, I would like to go out of state honestly, to a top school.

 

[DORoe]

I go to oklahoma state so I am quite familiar with osucom. I would much prefer going to osu than ou based on the reports i get from students attending both. Seems that ou has a bad satisfaction rate. However, I would like to go out of state honestly, to a top school.

good luck to you in all your future pursuits.

 

[Dr Sum Day]

Yes, you are always right! I hope you get into allopathic schools!

See what TexHealth has to say about himself
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=1662201#post1662201

You may get into allopathic school since you are from Texas. It's one of the easiest state to get into medical school. Good luck with other states or other private schools!

I worked with a guy who turned down UT Galveston to go to TCOM because he believes in OMM

 

[Shinken]

What made you guys chose osteopathic vs allopathic? was it a book, a family doctor...what? lets get some real testimonies going...i'm interested in what makes people chose osteopathic medicine

My main two reasons for choosing osteopathic:

1- As a patient I experienced care from both MDs and DOs. Funny thing is, I didn't know about the existence of DOs, I thought they were all MDs. Some of the MDs weren't that great, some of the MDs I really liked...turned out the "MDs" I really liked were actually DOs.

2- I went to one allo interview (UW-Madison) and I just couldn't see myself having the other interviewees as my classmates. After my acceptance at one of my top choice DO schools I declined an interview at another allo school and the rest is history.

Good luck. OSU is an excellent school.

 

[Nate]

Don't feed the troll, even if he is funny... in a Mr. Bean sort of way.

'cause we couldn't get into MD schools 👍 and everyone who disagrees, ACCEPT IT.

 

[OSUdoc08]

'cause we couldn't get into MD schools 👍 and everyone who disagrees, ACCEPT IT.

Wow I'm ashamed to be from the same state as this guy.

 

[keba15]

'cause we couldn't get into MD schools 👍 and everyone who disagrees, ACCEPT IT.

ATTENTION!!!!
DON'T argue w/ this idiot (texhealth), people will have trouble telling ya'll apart.


anyway....

few reasons why I'm applying to DO schools?
- I like the philosophy
- I know some DO doctors that are really cool with an open mind and very intelligent
- there is a very good DO school where I live

...this doesn’t mean I will not apply to MD schools, but I don't look at DO schools as plan B. because at the end, we are all doctors.

 

[sia_simba]

hehehe.... texhealth is funny but not wrong all the way...

1. People turn down allo schools down for osteopathic schools because they like the philosophy.

2. People apply to osteopathic schools as safety for MD schools and when they can't get into MD schools, they go to osteopathic school... (NO ONE in here can tell me that is wrong... not to offend anyone in here, but if you can.. then I think you would need to go out a bit more. 4-5 of your friends that don't do that doesnt mean its the entire population)

3. Certain people are treated by DOs their entire lives and feel very comfortable w/ them so they feel that DOs are better at treating patients due to OMM training and outlook. (I have been to some really crappy DOs and really really great MDs... all w/ personal experience)

4. My uncle is an MD and told me to apply to DO schools as well as MD schools and that as long as I get into a medical school, it doesn't matter.

5. I only applied to DO schools because my grade wasn't high enough to get me into MD schools and NYCOM was close to my house and I felt that as long as I can be a doctor... it doesn't matter where I go. Plus, my friend was going to that school so I take it that it would be nice to go to the same school.

There you go. I go to NYCOM, proud and happy about my school, but I will not sit here and state that DO's are better than MD's because of OMM. NYCOM has twice the hours for OMM labs than any other school out there, and NYCOM has also won UAAO school of the year for many years in a row so I think NYCOM is respectable in doing OMM.

Yet, not to trash anyone or people in my school, with all due respect in order to give better incite for future applicants, there are a good amount of students that arent that great at OMM. It is more on personality because honestly.... 2 years of didactic isn't going to teach you how to be human!!!

 

[jules0328]

hehehe.... texhealth is funny but not wrong all the way...

1. People turn down allo schools down for osteopathic schools because they like the philosophy.

2. People apply to osteopathic schools as safety for MD schools and when they can't get into MD schools, they go to osteopathic school... (NO ONE in here can tell me that is wrong... not to offend anyone in here, but if you can.. then I think you would need to go out a bit more. 4-5 of your friends that don't do that doesnt mean its the entire population)

3. Certain people are treated by DOs their entire lives and feel very comfortable w/ them so they feel that DOs are better at treating patients due to OMM training and outlook. (I have been to some really crappy DOs and really really great MDs... all w/ personal experience)

4. My uncle is an MD and told me to apply to DO schools as well as MD schools and that as long as I get into a medical school, it doesn't matter.

5. I only applied to DO schools because my grade wasn't high enough to get me into MD schools and NYCOM was close to my house and I felt that as long as I can be a doctor... it doesn't matter where I go. Plus, my friend was going to that school so I take it that it would be nice to go to the same school.

There you go. I go to NYCOM, proud and happy about my school, but I will not sit here and state that DO's are better than MD's because of OMM. NYCOM has twice the hours for OMM labs than any other school out there, and NYCOM has also won UAAO school of the year for many years in a row so I think NYCOM is respectable in doing OMM.

Yet, not to trash anyone or people in my school, with all due respect in order to give better incite for future applicants, there are a good amount of students that arent that great at OMM. It is more on personality because honestly.... 2 years of didactic isn't going to teach you how to be human!!!

Well said Sia Simba

 

[sia_simba]

With all respect to poster above me... i would just like to build on his/her idea for a bit so please don't be offended anyone.

Like everyone has said many times in the past.... personal experience... some people choose osteopathy because of the "DO philosophy" and they hate the "MD philosophy" (BTW... what is the MD philosophy ??? prescribing medicine ?? trt pts with antibiotics instead of doing lymphatics? Giving albuterol, singular, all the new ET1 inhibitors w/o doing rib raising, OA decompression??? )

Lets get real now... people do things because of personal experience... don't make other people's experience into yours... don't like osteopathy becuase 95% of people on this DO board likes it. I feel that at certain times... us DOs feel isolated or victimized by differences in our philosophy not because the "MDs" brought it upon us, but because we alienate ourselves in order to make us feel special. Lets be honest... do you think all the MD applicants want to apply to medical school because they dont want to treat their patients?? I am sure they care for patients just as much as us "DOs" do... just that some arent able to deliver due to lack of skills.... come on now.. im sure its pretty hard to be 3.9gpa, 40 on MCAT, and well-rounded person w/o some sacrifices... i am sure some can do, but not all.

Plus, if you really think about it... there are about 50,000 practicing DO's in the US compared to approximately 500,000 practicing MD's... lets talk odds ratio.. what is your chances of bumping into a bad MD compared to bad DO ???

 

[DOtobe]

'cause we couldn't get into MD schools 👍 and everyone who disagrees, ACCEPT IT.

Am I the only one who thinks this above post is being sarcastic? I guess he/she should have added a 😉 or at the end of it...

 

[TexHealth]

;-) 🙂

I didn't mean to offend anyone. I do also feel that out of the 'Pre-Med' world of ours, DO's are greatly respected and the general public doesnt really care what you are, MD or DO....just as long as you're a good doctor and helping them get better.

But I do still stick to my opinion that many DOs chose DO school as a back up to MD schools.

.......I too am tired of all the MDs are better than DOs...they're not. They all learn basically the SAME THING!, DOs even more because of OMM.

 

[DrHopeless]

Ok forgive me here, but I honestly have no clue what an "OMT" is. And to be totally honest, before I took the prep class for the MCAT, I have no clue what the heck a DO is either. Obviously, I am going for the MD since I would probably fail any interview I get at any DO school.

 

[tkim]

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=89324

The FAQ which is stickied in this forum has more info if you're interested.

 

[cooldreams]

Ok forgive me here, but I honestly have no clue what an "OMT" is. And to be totally honest, before I took the prep class for the MCAT, I have no clue what the heck a DO is either. Obviously, I am going for the MD since I would probably fail any interview I get at any DO school.

i doubt it would hurt too much to learn a little bit. but it is your choice....

 

[DO it right]

There you go. I go to NYCOM, proud and happy about my school, but I will not sit here and state that DO's are better than MD's because of OMM. NYCOM has twice the hours for OMM labs than any other school out there, and NYCOM has also won UAAO school of the year for many years in a row so I think NYCOM is respectable in doing OMM.

Funny, I thought DMU had the longest training for OMM..they mentioned to us that their OMM program is "second to none".

 

[DO it right]

Ok forgive me here, but I honestly have no clue what an "OMT" is. And to be totally honest, before I took the prep class for the MCAT, I have no clue what the heck a DO is either. Obviously, I am going for the MD since I would probably fail any interview I get at any DO school.

So your MCAT prep class taught you about DO's?? That's interesting...on the other hand..u're right..if not into the DO philosophy, you will most likely not get in.

 

[DrHopeless]

I learned about DO, but I am afraid it wasn't in a very possitive light.

So your MCAT prep class taught you about DO's?? That's interesting...on the other hand..u're right..if not into the DO philosophy, you will most likely not get in.

 

[OSUdoc08]

I learned about DO, but I am afraid it wasn't in a very possitive light.

Maybe you should have learned to spell instead.

👎

 

[DrHopeless]

ok you could take my comment in a negative way I supposed, wasn't meant to be. I am simply responding to mzafaran's statement about the MCAT class. It wasn’t an attack toward DO, it was simply a statement.

By the way I was going to edit the post, but it is not worth it anymore.

Maybe you should have learned to spell instead.

👎

 

[Doc 2b]

God I'm so sick of these DO vs MD threads!!!

I really wish the mods would ban these idiots with their useless uneducated opinions. Most are pre-med not pre-md or pre-do, most premeds have no freakin' idea of the difference between the two, and more importantly the similarities.

 

[PuKcAo]

.. personal experience... some people choose osteopathy because of the "DO philosophy" and they hate the "MD philosophy" (BTW... what is the MD philosophy ??? prescribing medicine ?? trt pts with antibiotics instead of doing lymphatics? Giving albuterol, singular, all the new ET1 inhibitors w/o doing rib raising, OA decompression??? )

I'm taken back by the blatent double standard here. I would assume that you, like all other DO or pre-DO students, despise the negative attitude some people have toward your philosophy. It seems to me that rather than criticize the MD "nonphilosophy" and instigate the bickering between the two camps you would work at getting them to embrace one another and to unite for the sake of the sake of medicine as a whole. It makes me question your loyalty to the philosophy of medicine.

You're creating a rivalry...medicine isn't a sport.

 

[PuKcAo]

Plus, if you really think about it... there are about 50,000 practicing DO's in the US compared to approximately 500,000 practicing MD's... lets talk odds ratio.. what is your chances of bumping into a bad MD compared to bad DO ???

I'm really don't know about this comment either. What exactly is the take home application one can gather from this brilliant analysis? I find none. You have said the same thing twice in different words: there are more MD's than DO's.

 

[DORoe]

;-) 🙂

I didn't mean to offend anyone. I do also feel that out of the 'Pre-Med' world of ours, DO's are greatly respected and the general public doesnt really care what you are, MD or DO....just as long as you're a good doctor and helping them get better.

But I do still stick to my opinion that many DOs chose DO school as a back up to MD schools.

.......I too am tired of all the MDs are better than DOs...they're not. They all learn basically the SAME THING!, DOs even more because of OMM.

So your opinion has changed since you wrote this thread....

MD is the way to go. OMM is just ridiculous....they can teach that to anyone.

I will concede that some of my classmates chose the osteopathic route because they did not get into an allopathic program, but I will tell you from experience and first hand knowledge that many of my classmates were admitted to allopathic institutions. They chose to attend osteopathic school for whatever reason. Some may have liked the area, some liked the school, and some wanted to learn OMM. We all have our reasons that go way beyond using a school as a backup.

 

[DORoe]

I'm taken back by the blatent double standard here. I would assume that you, like all other DO or pre-DO students, despise the negative attitude some people have toward your philosophy. It seems to me that rather than criticize the MD "nonphilosophy" and instigate the bickering between the two camps you would work at getting them to embrace one another and to unite for the sake of the sake of medicine as a whole. It makes me question your loyalty to the philosophy of medicine.

You're creating a rivalry...medicine isn't a sport.

one of the more sensible posts that i have ever read on one of these threads.

 

[sia_simba]

PuKCao....

Exactly my point... my statement about "DO philosophy" and "MD philosophy" as someone stated prior to my post.. (THATS WHY I HAD parenthesis around the idea... because someone used that idea first) I just wanted to clarify to that person that despite all the brainwashing.. MD philosophy is also part of DO philosophy. Gosh! And if people would so like to claim that there is a big difference... What about all the MDs that learn OMT ?? are they considered DO. Are they betrayer to their learning?? I think not!

PuKCAo states: [" I'm taken back by the blatent double standard here. I would assume that you, like all other DO or pre-DO students, despise the negative attitude some people have toward your philosophy. It seems to me that rather than criticize the MD "nonphilosophy" and instigate the bickering between the two camps you would work at getting them to embrace one another and to unite for the sake of the sake of medicine as a whole. It makes me question your loyalty to the philosophy of medicine.

You're creating a rivalry...medicine isn't a sport."] End Quote.

I DOn't despise all the negative attitude some people have toward my philosophy... people HATE (another word for despise) what they don't understand... If that person chooses to hate on a DO, there would be no words in this world that can change his/her mind. I'm sure theres enough people out there that would hate me for some other reason that is more life threatening than someone hating me for being a DO. So what if they hate me??? I Will still practice medicine the way I do and whether they like me or not.. is not going to make me a better or worst doctor. I make myself and no one else can change that of me.

Philosophy of medicine ? I thought this post was "MD philosophy" vs "DO philosophy" ?? I don't see how I am creating rivalry.. if anything.. the original poster of this thread is creating rivary.

And for all that don't know.. MEDICINE IS A SPORT!!!! Its a SPORT you do not want to play in but it still is one... Sorry if you had to hear it from me first. Use your imagination to see why its a sport... in medicine.. regardless of what field you go into... "YOU win some and you lose some... " If you go into oncology... some patients you can save, and others you can't. To me... that seems like an analogy of "sport" though in a much mundane way.

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[PuKcAo Quote:
Originally Posted by sia_simba
Plus, if you really think about it... there are about 50,000 practicing DO's in the US compared to approximately 500,000 practicing MD's... lets talk odds ratio.. what is your chances of bumping into a bad MD compared to bad DO ???

I'm really don't know about this comment either. What exactly is the take home application one can gather from this brilliant analysis? I find none. You have said the same thing twice in different words: there are more MD's than DO's. ]

I don't think i put two of the same thing into one. First sentence states that there are more practicing MDs than Dos. Second statment states that because of more MDs than DOs, your chances of bumping into a bad MD increases. The take home application for the more "brilliant" people, even my 7 year old cousin can figure out, is that people were complaining of seeing "bad MDs" and that analogy is to let people know that because of the higher numbers of MDs out there, your chances of seeing a bad MD is higher, but it doesnt mean that all MDs are bad.

 

[sia_simba]

Funny, I thought DMU had the longest training for OMM..they mentioned to us that their OMM program is "second to none".

How many hours of OMM does DMU have ? Maybe my dean lied to me or she didn't know of the up-to-date info on hours of OMM in other schools' program

I know NYCOM first year have OMM 3 hours every week and 1 hour lecture. Second years have 1.5 hours OMM every week and 1 hour lecture.

 

[PuKcAo]

PuKCao....

Exactly my point... my statement about "DO philosophy" and "MD philosophy" as someone stated prior to my post.. (THATS WHY I HAD parenthesis around the idea... because someone used that idea first) I just wanted to clarify to that person that despite all the brainwashing.. MD philosophy is also part of DO philosophy. Gosh! And if people would so like to claim that there is a big difference... What about all the MDs that learn OMT ?? are they considered DO. Are they betrayer to their learning?? I think not!

PuKCAo states: [" I'm taken back by the blatent double standard here. I would assume that you, like all other DO or pre-DO students, despise the negative attitude some people have toward your philosophy. It seems to me that rather than criticize the MD "nonphilosophy" and instigate the bickering between the two camps you would work at getting them to embrace one another and to unite for the sake of the sake of medicine as a whole. It makes me question your loyalty to the philosophy of medicine.

You're creating a rivalry...medicine isn't a sport."] End Quote.

I DOn't despise all the negative attitude some people have toward my philosophy... people HATE (another word for despise) what they don't understand... If that person chooses to hate on a DO, there would be no words in this world that can change his/her mind. I'm sure theres enough people out there that would hate me for some other reason that is more life threatening than someone hating me for being a DO. So what if they hate me??? I Will still practice medicine the way I do and whether they like me or not.. is not going to make me a better or worst doctor. I make myself and no one else can change that of me. .

I can't make any sense of this portion of the post, but I did make out in the opening line that we agree about something. My attention span is short and rather than rumage through your unorganized prose I'm going to have to take your word for it that the rest is just elaborating on our similarities.

Philosophy of medicine ? I thought this post was "MD philosophy" vs "DO philosophy" ?? I don't see how I am creating rivalry.. if anything.. the original poster of this thread is creating rivary. .

I am the original poster of this thread seeking genuine responses from people about why they want to go DO. Creating a rivalry would be insulting one of the two philosophies wether it be subtle or blatent.

And for all that don't know.. MEDICINE IS A SPORT!!!! Its a SPORT you do not want to play in but it still is one... Sorry if you had to hear it from me first. Use your imagination to see why its a sport... in medicine.. regardless of what field you go into... "YOU win some and you lose some... " If you go into oncology... some patients you can save, and others you can't. To me... that seems like an analogy of "sport" though in a much mundane way.

I'm dumbfounded.
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don't think i put two of the same thing into one. First sentence states that there are more practicing MDs than Dos. Second statment states that because of more MDs than DOs, your chances of bumping into a bad MD increases. The take home application for the more "brilliant" people, even my 7 year old cousin can figure out, is that people were complaining of seeing "bad MDs" and that analogy is to let people know that because of the higher numbers of MDs out there, your chances of seeing a bad MD is higher, but it doesnt mean that all MDs are bad.

I didn't know that you were saying this in response to someone "seeing 'bad MDs;'" I thought it was an effort to strengthen your argument against MD's. I apologize.



I apologize for attacking your original statement...seems as if it could have been a misunderstanding all along. I seem to have a difficult time understanding what you the message you are trying to convey. Wether it's a problem in your thinking, your writing, or my reading I'm not sure. Hows this sound? I'll read more carefully if you practice more clarity in your writing? No hard feelings.

 

[that dr. jack]

What made you guys chose osteopathic vs allopathic? was it a book, a family doctor...what? lets get some real testimonies going...i'm interested in what makes people chose osteopathic medicine

i went because i got in. there was no bloody way i was ever going to get into an allopathic school but i didn't care too much about that. i read "the D.O.s" and the book about robert fulford, and they made me see both the parts of osteopathy that i admire and those that are complete bull$hit.

it almost feels like i've scammed the system or something. because even with my mediocre grades in UG and crappy MCATs i'll still get to treat the same patients and make the same amount of money as all these poor saps who studied all hard and spent all those hours volunteering in the hospital for free. suckers.

 

[Shinken]

it almost feels like i've scammed the system or something. because even with my mediocre grades in UG and crappy MCATs i'll still get to treat the same patients and make the same amount of money as all these poor saps who studied all hard and spent all those hours volunteering in the hospital for free. suckers.

That's too much honesty! 😀

 

[shan-bot 2000]

it almost feels like i've scammed the system or something. because even with my mediocre grades in UG and crappy MCATs i'll still get to treat the same patients and make the same amount of money as all these poor saps who studied all hard and spent all those hours volunteering in the hospital for free. suckers.

man. i was one of those "suckers" that worked hard for good grades and a good MCAT. i've done a lot of unpaid volunteer work too...but i guess i did these things because i wanted to!


i only applyed to DO schools. why? because i think being an osteopath will be most benificial to my goal of running a family practice based in holistic and preventative medicine. and that's that.

lately i've been reading a lot of frightening opinions on this site. i realise when i start school next fall there will be some kids in my class that are there because they couldn't get into an MD program. that's fine. but i really hope that the majority of my peers will be there because they truely want to be osteopaths.

 

[jkhamlin]

I hate to get in on a flame war, but I couldn't resist...
I'm sure there are at least a few in MD school who have such malignant personalities and lack of maturity that they couldn't get into a DO school. 😛

 

[docbill]

I hate to get in on a flame war, but I couldn't resist...
I'm sure there are at least a few in MD school who have such malignant personalities and lack of maturity that they couldn't get into a DO school. 😛

Jkhamlin... do you need to edit your post... should it say MD students... rather than MD schools...

Please do resist a flame war...

Bad personalities and lack of maturity are present in every profession... I am sure DO schools still have their fair share.

 

[docbill]

man. i was one of those "suckers" that worked hard for good grades and a good MCAT. i've done a lot of unpaid volunteer work too...but i guess i did these things because i wanted to!


i only applyed to DO schools. why? because i think being an osteopath will be most benificial to my goal of running a family practice based in holistic and preventative medicine. and that's that.

lately i've been reading a lot of frightening opinions on this site. i realise when i start school next fall there will be some kids in my class that are there because they couldn't get into an MD program. that's fine. but i really hope that the majority of my peers will be there because they truely want to be osteopaths.

That is a great attitute to have.. do something because you love it... not because it is a backup plan.

There are some people like myself, who would swing both ways. I would consider entering MD or DO profession. I know if I had the choice between an MD and a DO program, I would choice the one that is close to home (better location) and cheaper. The down side of doing an MD is that I would not learn OMT. The downside of doing a DO is having to always explain to people what a DO is. hehehe.

Even MDs can take a whole body approach and incorporate prevention into their daily work.

 

[jkhamlin]

Jkhamlin... do you need to edit your post... should it say MD students... rather than MD schools...

Please read every word in the sentence.

Please do resist a flame war...

Bad personalities and lack of maturity are present in every profession... I am sure DO schools still have their fair share.

Just trying to add a little levity to the flame war (please note the smily); I didn't start the flame war.

 

[that dr. jack]

i guess i shouldn't have posted that- i was trying to be funny very late at night but i ended up sounding like a jerk. truth is, i really do like being at an osteopathic school. i couldn't care less what kind of school i attend because being a physician is all i care about, but having the added bonus of OMM is fantastic.
a few days ago a friend asked me to do some OMM on his back and i was stoked that someone finally wanted it rather than me begging them because i need the practice. being able to help someone relieve pain after only one semester is why osteopathic school rocks.

...and i did plenty of volunteering so i'm not only a sucker but a hypocrite to boot.

 

[sia_simba]

man.
i only applyed to DO schools. why? because i think being an osteopath will be most benificial to my goal of running a family practice based in holistic and preventative medicine. and that's that.

lately i've been reading a lot of frightening opinions on this site. i realise when i start school next fall there will be some kids in my class that are there because they couldn't get into an MD program. that's fine. but i really hope that the majority of my peers will be there because they truely want to be osteopaths.

Hehehe... first person I've seen so far to use the word "holistic" in such a loooong time. Nothing wrong w/ the word so don't misunderstand me. I find it funny that a lot of people during interviews when you sit there and talk to them, they will mention they like DO schools because of the holistics view, and when asked what does it mean, they stumble to try and conjure up an answer. I'm not saying that shan-bot doesnt know the meaning of it... but it just brought up memories of when I was interviewing.

That Dr. Jack... OMM is something that works and has been working for the last 100 years... Heh... The only draw back about OMM, I'm not sure if any of you know, is that certain techniques require a longer amount of time. I mean... have anyone in here done OMM to real patients in the hospitals ??

I had a pt complaining of neck pain, did OMM on him for 15-20mins, myofacial then muscle energy... I mean, granted that when he sat back up.. he put his dumb up and said "very good"... in the process.. I had to take off my white coat, take off my tie, and whipe my forehead clean of all the sweat... simple technique, but require A LOT of energy.

PuKCAO.... its probably not you, but me. I can't write well and I admit it.. sorry if I confused you. No personal feelings hurt I hope. =)

 

[that dr. jack]

That Dr. Jack... OMM is something that works and has been working for the last 100 years... Heh... The only draw back about OMM, I'm not sure if any of you know, is that certain techniques require a longer amount of time. I mean... have anyone in here done OMM to real patients in the hospitals ??

I had a pt complaining of neck pain, did OMM on him for 15-20mins, myofacial then muscle energy... I mean, granted that when he sat back up.. he put his dumb up and said "very good"... in the process.. I had to take off my white coat, take off my tie, and whipe my forehead clean of all the sweat... simple technique, but require A LOT of energy.

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sia_simba: read my previous post. the only time i don't like OMM is when my partner has been practicing on me for 6 hours straight in preparation for a practical. that's when it starts to not feel so good...

i agree with your post: i never once used the term "holistic" in my interviews because there are many other ways to describe osteopathic medicine, and like you said many can't even describe osteopathy other than saying that dreadful word. at one interview, i was completely honest and told them that i really liked most of Still's ideas, although some of them were not very relelvent in light of certain advances in modern medicine and science in the last 100 years. me saying that seemed to be ok to them because i got accepted. then again, maybe they just liked the contrast after the girl next to me kept on sputtering "holistic" in rapid fire after they asked her to describe osteopathy without using that word. it was awesome.

 

[sia_simba]

LOL... That dr. jack... that is funny... you shoulda knocked your partner out... 6hrs.. damn.. you must have been a rubberband. yeah, its interesting sometimes at interviews on what people say... and its even amazing when you meet that 1 person that saids.. "i'm doing it because its my backup to MD schools"... that really pisses you off esp when you are taking it more seriously than they are, but whatever.

 

[shan-bot 2000]

FYI: i spent this past semptember volunteering in holistic healthcare centers in India. I was fortunate enough to shadow a naturopath at the nature cure hospital in Rishekesh as well as a reiki practitioner in Dehra Dun. i also spent a week with a holistic doctor in Dehra Dun as well as a week with an ayurvedic practitoner in Than Gaon. it was awesome! so, in case anyone had their doubts, i do have a slight inkling as to what holistic medicine is! i was not one of those sputtering interviewees bandering the term about, but i definately did discuss holistic medicine with my interviewers. if you know what you're talking about, it's not terrible to mention it at an interview.

to continue with this thread topic, "why do?" i have to say, osteopathy appeals to me because it seems to bridge western medicine with a more worldly, whole body approach. Also, as someone who hold a degree in visual art, OMM is especially appealing to me because of the hands-on technique.

 

[UNE2009LMD]

FYI: i spent this past semptember volunteering in holistic healthcare centers in India. I was fortunate enough to shadow a naturopath at the nature cure hospital in Rishekesh as well as a reiki practitioner in Dehra Dun. i also spent a week with a holistic doctor in Dehra Dun as well as a week with an ayurvedic practitoner in Than Gaon. it was awesome! so, in case anyone had their doubts, i do have a slight inkling as to what holistic medicine is! i was not one of those sputtering interviewees bandering the term about, but i definately did discuss holistic medicine with my interviewers. if you know what you're talking about, it's not terrible to mention it at an interview.

to continue with this thread topic, "why do?" i have to say, osteopathy appeals to me because it seems to bridge western medicine with a more worldly, whole body approach. Also, as someone who hold a degree in visual art, OMM is especially appealing to me because of the hands-on technique.

Instead of posing the question as "why Do?", I think it should be "Why not DO?" I love the fact that in my future practice, I have the opportunity to blend western medicine with unique elements of OMT. Instead of feeling boxed-in, osteopathic medicine gives me the opportunity to provide a healing touch utilizing all realms of medicine. In a way, it is a creative means towards healing..the benefits of allopathic medicine with osteopathic technique and philosophy. The best way to go. 🙂

 

[flpremed04]

What made you guys chose osteopathic vs allopathic? was it a book, a family doctor...what? lets get some real testimonies going...i'm interested in what makes people chose osteopathic medicine

Basically a different means to the same end. There are alot of people out there who have no idea what they say when speaking about osteopaths, "Oh, they prescribe too much... Or they don't make as much money... Second rate doctors blah blah" I actually get encouraged to become an osteopath when I hear things like this (maybe I'm young and idealistic). It really puzzles me that there are those who think a guy who took every course an allopath took and a little extra is somehow not as good. When I first read about osteopaths I was really interested because of the holistic philosophy and manipulative treatment, then I found out there was a "stigma" attached in some circles to the degree. Well, I've made it my goal to become a great osteopathic physician and help improve the reputation among the general public. I believe in the holistic approach and I would like to see more D.O.'s in every specialty. Hopefully someday there will be as many oseteopaths as there are allopaths.

 

[MsEvolution]

What made you guys chose osteopathic vs allopathic? was it a book, a family doctor...what? lets get some real testimonies going...i'm interested in what makes people chose osteopathic medicine

I didn't even know about it until recently. As I went through the app process and I learned more about it, I was drawn to it's holistic aspects... but what absolutely SOLD me, was seeing the incredible benefits of OMM therapy during my visits to the schools. After that, there was no way I was going to go MD only to become some form of what is called a "closet DO." I want to make sure I go somewhere that's going to provide me with the BEST, most thorough OMM training I can get.

 

[jkhamlin]

Basically a different means to the same end. There are alot of people out there who have no idea what they say when speaking about osteopaths, "Oh, they prescribe too much... Or they don't make as much money... Second rate doctors blah blah" I actually get encouraged to become an osteopath when I hear things like this (maybe I'm young and idealistic). It really puzzles me that there are those who think a guy who took every course an allopath took and a little extra is somehow not as good. When I first read about osteopaths I was really interested because of the holistic philosophy and manipulative treatment, then I found out there was a "stigma" attached in some circles to the degree. Well, I've made it my goal to become a great osteopathic physician and help improve the reputation among the general public. I believe in the holistic approach and I would like to see more D.O.'s in every specialty. Hopefully someday there will be as many oseteopaths as there are allopaths.

 

[MsEvolution]

How many hours of OMM does DMU have ? Maybe my dean lied to me or she didn't know of the up-to-date info on hours of OMM in other schools' program

I know NYCOM first year have OMM 3 hours every week and 1 hour lecture. Second years have 1.5 hours OMM every week and 1 hour lecture.

I believe DMU has 300 hours (?). I've heard that DMU's OMM program is the best in the nation, too... and not just from DMU. Get this, I've had MD's in the adcom at my state university advise me that the two best OMM programs in the US are DMU and UHS-COM. I've heard nothing but wonderful things about the OMM instructor at DMU. And I was glad to see that their OMM classes are small enough to allow for a pretty good student/instructor ratio.