Why does it seem like nursing majors complain the most?

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

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Yet, you’d be surprised how many times my friend has received advice that using EO will “cure” her daughter’s DM1.

I know of another person who buys into certain herbal combinations that are used to “vaccinate”.

No, it doesn't surprise me. I've seen people stop their chemo to use lemon rinds and coffee enemas.

 

[965978]

No, it doesn't surprise me. I've seen people stop their chemo to use lemon rinds and coffee enemas.

Steve Jobs actually delayed surgery for his pancreatic cancer because he thought he could make it better using alternative medicine through his diet.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Steve Jobs actually delayed surgery for his pancreatic cancer because he thought he could make it better using alternative medicine through his diet!

Yeah, which he realized was a mistake too late unfortunately.

 

[965978]

Yeah, which he realized was a mistake too late unfortunately.

I’ve also heard that many people believe that chronic inflammation is the root cause of several diseases, including leaky gut, diabetes, blood pressure, etc. I don’t know how true it is though.

 

[cantankerous]

I’ve also heard that many people believe that chronic inflammation is the root cause of several diseases, including leaky gut, diabetes, blood pressure, etc. I don’t know how true it is though.

Excess mucus is the source of all disease. Dr. Sebi cured cancer, HIV, etc.!

 

[gyngyn]

I’ve also heard that many people believe that chronic inflammation is the root cause of several diseases, including leaky gut, diabetes, blood pressure, etc. I don’t know how true it is though.

It used to be yeast.

 

[ThetisAntithesis]

It used to be yeast.

No joke, I had a patient ask me to treat her for yeast (systemic)...
She said and I quote "I feel like I have so much yeast, I can't walk through a bread aisle".
Me: "Come again?"

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

No joke, I had a patient ask me to treat her for yeast (systemic)...
She said and I quote "I feel like I have so much yeast, I can't walk through a bread aisle".
Me: "Come again?"

She probably read about candidemia online and thought she had it lol.

 

[M&L]

Lol when I was in boot camp they told us if we were supposed to have a family, the Navy would have issued us one. Another favorite was that you can either be there for the conception or the birth, but not both lol.

hahahahhaa..... love it

 

[M&L]

As a pre-vet student who has taken the same prerequisites as pre-meds and then some, pre-meds complain the most out of all majors I’ve come across. Even more than engineering majors, and it’s not even close.

hahahha. I was an engineering major before switching to biochemistry, and it is TOTALLY true. They do complain a lot, - for a good reason though. Math alone will kill anyone 🙂))))

 

[M&L]

I will say that there is something to some of that stuff. Like umcka has some solid evidence with returning to work a day or two early after bronchitis, lavender has utility with anxiety, peppermint oil has been shown to prevent chemo-associated n/v, etc. But most of them are just smelly oils lol. I also read a study looking at incidence of URIs in a group that took vitamin C every day and a group that didn't, and the group that took it every day had fewer URIs over a 12-month period or something, but there are plenty of them that show it doesn't change the outcome if you're already sick lol. *shrug*

i am a HUGE fan of essential oils, but i use them for skin care. I mix my own combinations and use them in moisturizers, serums, etc. They are really great in that capacity. All my fine wrinkles around eyes disappeared, pigmentation decreased. You have to buy real stuff though, - majority of oils that they sell in the stores are not pure enough.

 

[ciestar]

i am a HUGE fan of essential oils, but i use them for skin care. I mix my own combinations and use them in moisturizers, serums, etc. They are really great in that capacity. All my fine wrinkles around eyes disappeared, pigmentation decreased. You have to buy real stuff though, - majority of oils that they sell in the stores are not pure enough.

Where do you find the real ones? Please dont say Young Living or DoTerra... I will never trust those MLM scams

Speaking of.. ive had more than one fb friend trying to sell magical gel with HGH in it that cures ALL THE THINGS.

 

[M&L]

Where do you find the real ones? Please dont say Young Living or DoTerra... I will never trust those MLM scams

Speaking of.. ive had more than one fb friend trying to sell magical gel with HGH in it that cures ALL THE THINGS.

hahahaha. No way. I usually dig into the isles of Wegmans, or Whole Foods. If i can get stuff that is pure enough for consumption i do (for example, coconut oil in the food isle). Sometimes you can also tell by the price, - if you see a ginormous bottle for 5 dollars that sort of TELLS you on its own that it is not pure 🙂

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Where do you find the real ones? Please dont say Young Living or DoTerra... I will never trust those MLM scams

Speaking of.. ive had more than one fb friend trying to sell magical gel with HGH in it that cures ALL THE THINGS.

Omg don’t get me started on the hgh gel. I will say that not all MLMs are scams. My wife does one and makes good money (along with all of her team). She’s on an all-expenses paid trip to Vegas right now and went to the Bahamas last year.

 

[ciestar]

Omg don’t get me started on the hgh gel. I will say that not all MLMs are scams. My wife does one and makes good money (along with all of her team). She’s on an all-expenses paid trip to Vegas right now and went to the Bahamas last year.

I know multiple people who try to sell the gel. Then i have few all into Lularoe and all that other awful stuff. My friend made good money selling LLR, too, but that company is super shady.

 

[M&L]

I know multiple people who try to sell the gel. Then i have few all into Lularoe and all that other awful stuff.

But, I think I know what company that is, and they’ve had their own share of controversy.

(now i am googling the gel thing 🙂))) )

update: GOOGLED IT.... hahahhaa. I cannot believe that people actually trust it.

 

[ciestar]

(now i am googling the gel thing 🙂))) )

SOMADERM

 

[dr_kateb]

This has to be one of the most uninteresting derails I’ve ever seen on here.

 

[M&L]

This has to be one of the most uninteresting derails I’ve ever seen on here.

i apologize! lets get back to complaining about nurses complaining 🙂))

my favorite though is not really specific major, but all pre-health majors students (nurses, pre-med, pre-dental, pre-everything) complaining how tired they are and how little they sleep, and how much they have going on, and how late they stayed up studying... blah blah blah... When all they do is SCHOOL and volunteer... while me and a few of my friends take exact same courses and work full time..... yeah... i am sure you are tired.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

This has to be one of the most uninteresting derails I’ve ever seen on here.

Tbf it’s an uninteresting topic. But agreed. Either let’s get back on topic or if it’s run its course, I’ll close it.

 

[M&L]

Tbf it’s an uninteresting topic. But agreed. Either let’s get back on topic or if it’s run its course, I’ll close it.

SOMEONE come up with example of annoying complaining... FAST>

 

[1uhbedoc]

Actually being a nurse, I'll throw in my $0.02. As a nursing student, I think much of the complaining comes from the ridiculous curriculum we often follow. I remember spending 6+ hours working on charting paperwork that had nothing at all to do with the patient and moreso something for the program to check off that they taught us. The amount of busy work that helps neither the student or patient is insurmountable. Having gone back and also getting a degree in biology, I experienced not even half the bs I did while in nursing school. I also think some people are surprised with how difficult it can be to do well in nursing. I would study ~2-3 hours/day and make As/Bs but studying 10 hours a day still couldn't earn me straight As in nursing. The material itself is pseudoscience half the time. Absolute insanity.

As a practicing nurse out of school, we routinely get s**t on by patients, their families, doctors, administration staff, CNAs, etc. It always seem to fall back on the nurse. This is definitely something I complain about from time to time but I agree with another poster ^^, some people just like to complain and others just make s**t happen.

 

[ThetisAntithesis]

Actually being a nurse, I'll throw in my $0.02. As a nursing student, I think much of the complaining comes from the ridiculous curriculum we often follow. I remember spending 6+ hours working on charting paperwork that had nothing at all to do with the patient and moreso something for the program to check off that they taught us. The amount of busy work that helps neither the student or patient is insurmountable.

THIS!!

 

[sunshinefl]

Actually being a nurse, I'll throw in my $0.02. As a nursing student, I think much of the complaining comes from the ridiculous curriculum we often follow. I remember spending 6+ hours working on charting paperwork that had nothing at all to do with the patient and moreso something for the program to check off that they taught us. The amount of busy work that helps neither the student or patient is insurmountable. Having gone back and also getting a degree in biology, I experienced not even half the bs I did while in nursing school. I also think some people are surprised with how difficult it can be to do well in nursing. I would study ~2-3 hours/day and make As/Bs but studying 10 hours a day still couldn't earn me straight As in nursing. The material itself is pseudoscience half the time. Absolute insanity.

As a practicing nurse out of school, we routinely get s**t on by patients, their families, doctors, administration staff, CNAs, etc. It always seem to fall back on the nurse. This is definitely something I complain about from time to time but I agree with another poster ^^, some people just like to complain and others just make s**t happen.

Ha! I’ll never forget falling asleep 152673 times in my bed trying to finish my “care plan” for my patient for 6am clinicals with 1426838 text books and computers spread across my bed with me. Medical school is 46 times harder but sheesh care plans were miserable!

 

[7331poas]

Didnt read the thread. Just popping in to say that I have never met a single group of people who complain more than medical students. You would think that their retirement fund was depleted if you move their extend their class time back 1 hour.

 

[sunshinefl]

Didnt read the thread. Just popping in to say that I have never met a single group of people who complain more than medical students. You would think that their retirement fund was depleted if you move their extend their class time back 1 hour.

Congrats?

 

[RTC19]

I second (third? fourth? I am SDN-ing while sleepy) that this is pretty school-dependent.

In my neck of the woods, the Business majors seem to complain the most out of everyone. The Nursing majors' complaint level is about average around here.

 

[7331poas]

Congrats?

Just providing counter evidence to the assertion made by OP.

Ill see myself out.

 

[Nurse2MD2018]

The issue with nursing school is the shear volume that you are expected to master in a short period of time. For BSN programs, during your first semester you are taking pharm, patho, health assessment, a skills lab on top of your general university graduation requirements. What med students spend their entire second year covering, nursing students cover in the first semester. So the issue becomes you are being force fed complex medical information while lacking the extensive biological science knowledge needed to fully grasp the medicine you are learning. This is extremely stress inducing, no matter how intelligent you are.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

The issue with nursing school is the shear volume that you are expected to master in a short period of time. For BSN programs, during your first semester you are taking pharm, patho, health assessment, a skills lab on top of your general university graduation requirements. What med students spend their entire second year covering, nursing students cover in the first semester. So the issue becomes you are being force fed complex medical information while lacking the extensive biological science knowledge needed to fully grasp the medicine you are learning. This is extremely stress inducing, no matter how intelligent you are.

I mean, yes, but actually no. Nursing school courses do not go nearly as in depth as medical school courses. There’s no need. That’s not to say they aren’t difficult and it isn’t stressful. My wife is a nurse, so I’ve heard all about it. But saying it’s a year of med school in one semester is misleading.

 

[ciestar]

The issue with nursing school is the shear volume that you are expected to master in a short period of time. For BSN programs, during your first semester you are taking pharm, patho, health assessment, a skills lab on top of your general university graduation requirements. What med students spend their entire second year covering, nursing students cover in the first semester. So the issue becomes you are being force fed complex medical information while lacking the extensive biological science knowledge needed to fully grasp the medicine you are learning. This is extremely stress inducing, no matter how intelligent you are.

I’ve done both. Let me just say, they’re not even comparable. Med school is immensely harder.

 

[Nurse2MD2018]

I mean, yes, but actually no. Nursing school courses do not go nearly as in depth as medical school courses. There’s no need. That’s not to say they aren’t difficult and it isn’t stressful. My wife is a nurse, so I’ve heard all about it. But saying it’s a year of med school in one semester is misleading.

I’ve done both. Let me just say, they’re not even comparable. Med school is immensely harder.

By no means am I comparing the two. While you aren’t expected to know that material at the level of a medical student, you are expected to be familiar. So while medical school may expect you to know everything about a drug, nursing schools are teaching you those same medications but essentially just the indications, expected outcomes, compatibilities,side effects and adverse outcomes. Yes it is not even close to the rigor of medical school, but compared to other undergraduate degrees it’s no cakewalk.

 

[Walter Raleigh]

@RNthenDoc Can you write the races that you think contribute negatively to the nursing student demographic? If you're going to state that there is a racial demographic correlation to behavior, then you've already put your one foot into the piranha tank.

Racial demographic? I don't think this was what was meant; if it was, that's more like jumping into the piranha tank with both feet.

 

[sunshinefl]

The issue with nursing school is the shear volume that you are expected to master in a short period of time. For BSN programs, during your first semester you are taking pharm, patho, health assessment, a skills lab on top of your general university graduation requirements. What med students spend their entire second year covering, nursing students cover in the first semester. So the issue becomes you are being force fed complex medical information while lacking the extensive biological science knowledge needed to fully grasp the medicine you are learning. This is extremely stress inducing, no matter how intelligent you are.

I’ve done both. Let me just say, they’re not even comparable. Med school is immensely harder.

L.O.L. I see you haven’t started medical school yet. You have no idea what you are talking about. I am an RN as well. I’ve learned 83647 times as much over second year of medical school than I did in a semester of nursing school. In medical school you will also simultaneously take multiple science courses, clinical courses, labs, humanism courses, etc. The volume in nursing school was nothing compared to medical school. Literally not even on the same planet. Please stop spreading this nonsense. It sounds a lot like what other health professions try to say.

 

[ciestar]

L.O.L. I see you haven’t started medical school yet. You have no idea what you are talking about. I am an RN as well. I’ve learned 83647 times as much over second year of medical school than I did in a semester of nursing school. In medical school you will also simultaneously take multiple science courses, clinical courses, labs, humanism courses, etc. The volume in nursing school was nothing compared to medical school. Literally not even on the same planet. Please stop spreading this nonsense. It sounds a lot like what other health professions try to say.

Volume was nothing, the depth was nothing. Hell, even the time commitment in retrospect was nothing. For example, I am doing 12 hour days for surgery and I still have to come home and study for 1-2 hours.

 

[Deecee2DO]

Didnt read the thread. Just popping in to say that I have never met a single group of people who complain more than medical students. You would think that their retirement fund was depleted if you move their extend their class time back 1 hour.

A med student complaining vs a nursing student complaining: complaining because you got tackled by the entire bears O-line after fracturing both legs vs complaining because you dropped your sprite on the ground in a mcdonalds parking lot

 

[863168]

@Nurse2MD2018 From my personal experience, I strongly disagree. I think that one of the things that adcoms have acknowledged, but haven't put enough weight behind is the fact that taking courses a lá carté in a DIY post-bac heavily favors the post-bac taker versus a traditional student. Make no mistake, it's fantastic to see other nurses taking Organic & Biochemistry. However, I've typed this before that it's not about taking those classes in isolation that makes them difficult. It's taking them alongside classes like Calc II/III, Abstract Algebra, Virology/Immunology/Histology, Physical Chemistry, independent research, work, and volunteering that begins to wear down on someone over time.

It's tempting to be someone doing a post-bac, getting to pick the courses you want to take & when you want to take them, and then saying, "That wasn't as bad as what premeds made it out to be!" However, if you had to do full 12-13 hour shifts with G. Bio w/lab, G. Chem w/lab, G. Physics w/lab, & Calculus I and throw into that being someone roughly 18 to 20 years of age, then I highly doubt that the same perspective would hold. I feel like there is such a significant perspective gap between student demographics that just can't be understood unless someone willingly decides to invest the time to cross that bridge. More often than not, the people willing to wait to give the other side a look usually aren't the people making broad generalized comparisons between two very different demographics.

 

[Stroganoff]

I've found 100% of standardized patients complain of something like it's their job. Who do they think they are?