Why is Finding a relevant job so hard?

[driven2011]

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So today I applied to a couple of PCT positions at the Hospital nearby, I am not qualified because A. I am not certified B. I have no PCT experience and the Kicker C. Not a Nursing Student.

I can't belive that I and we as a pre-med community can go and be Doctors for a day or two or like in my case whenever I want as we shadow physicians but can't get a job as a PRE-MED Student because I am not a nursing student. I understand those are Nursing positions but aren't we important too?

RANT😡

 

[JESSFALLING]

 

[driven2011]

 

[aSagacious]

Notice the important difference. Hospitals are more than happy to accommodate pre-meds as volunteers and shadowers (<-- is that a word?) since they don't have to pay them. Such is life. If you want a job in a field, you should have a paper saying that you're qualified to do the work, simple as that.

 

[kpcrew]

Well as a pre-med you're probably only going to be there for a year or two max before you go to med school. If you don't have any training, they would have to show you what to do and that takes time and effort. Why would they take an inexperienced, untrained person to do the job when there are plenty of qualified people looking for that same job? That's the impression I get anyway.

 

[Web MD]

You have no skill set, try the gap

 

[alwaysaangel]

So today I applied to a couple of PCT positions at the Hospital nearby, I am not qualified because A. I am not certified B. I have no PCT experience and the Kicker C. Not a Nursing Student.

I can't belive that I and we as a pre-med community can go and be Doctors for a day or two or like in my case whenever I want as we shadow physicians but can't get a job as a PRE-MED Student because I am not a nursing student. I understand those are Nursing positions but aren't we important too?

RANT😡

That makes perfect sense sorry.

Like they told you. a) You're not qualified, b) you don't have any experience and c) You have no intention of keeping the job for more than a year or two (which is what they really meant with C). I'll go ahead and add on d) Premeds are generally obsessed with grades and are clueless about appropriate work conduct - they ask for inappropriate time off because of tests, and generally think they are better than those around them.

You don't want the job - you want 'clinical experience' and they know it. Thats not what they want. They want an actual employee. They want someone who is going to keep the job for longer, take advantage of the training, etc.

As far as your example that premeds can go 'be doctors for a day' - no you can't. Sometimes a doc is nice enough to let you follow them around. You're still useless during that.

Premeds are untrained and have no practical experience, unless you want to go get some by getting a certificate you are absolutely useless. If you want a clinical job then go get trained and you can have one. If you want clinical experience look into volunteering at the hospital or a free clinic.

But the most important thing is that you need to embrace the fact that you're useless and stop feeling so entitled. The world doesn't owe you anything just because you think you want to be a doctor someday.

 

[Medicine4Bruhs]

You should work as a CNA. They have the easiest job in medicine.

 

[Geekchick921]

Try transport. They don't have much in the way of requirements and you'll get plenty of patient interation.

 

[Web MD]

CHP's (crystal healing practitioners) have it easier

 

[TheMightySmiter]

You should work as a CNA. They have the easiest job in medicine.

Have you ever been a CNA? It's not all that mentally challenging, but it sure as hell ain't easy.



OP, it took me months and dozens of applications to get a job as a PCT, and I was an EMT with two years of volunteer experience. If you want to work as a PCT so badly, get a certification and stop whining. Nearly every hospital CNA/PCT has to do a year of work in a nursing home to get experience before moving to the hospital. Being pre-med doesn't make you a special unique snowflake that should automatically deserve these jobs.

The sheer entitlement that some people on this forum exhibit astonishes me sometimes.

 

[MeowMeowCAT]

Employers are cheap. They rather hire someone that already knows what they are doing than have to waste time and money trying to train you. Look at the pre-pharmacy students and see that most still require having to take the test to work as a pharmacy technician, even though most pharmacies advertise that they will gladly train you for free.

 

[Web MD]

Most retail pharmacies actually let you work as a pharmacy intern once you've entered a professional program for pharmacy, from what I hear it's about as crappy as being a tech but an extra $3-4/hour

 

[driven2011]

That makes perfect sense sorry.

Like they told you. a) You're not qualified, b) you don't have any experience and c) You have no intention of keeping the job for more than a year or two (which is what they really meant with C). I'll go ahead and add on d) Premeds are generally obsessed with grades and are clueless about appropriate work conduct - they ask for inappropriate time off because of tests, and generally think they are better than those around them.

You don't want the job - you want 'clinical experience' and they know it. Thats not what they want. They want an actual employee. They want someone who is going to keep the job for longer, take advantage of the training, etc.

As far as your example that premeds can go 'be doctors for a day' - no you can't. Sometimes a doc is nice enough to let you follow them around. You're still useless during that.

Premeds are untrained and have no practical experience, unless you want to go get some by getting a certificate you are absolutely useless. If you want a clinical job then go get trained and you can have one. If you want clinical experience look into volunteering at the hospital or a free clinic.

But the most important thing is that you need to embrace the fact that you're useless and stop feeling so entitled. The world doesn't owe you anything just because you think you want to be a doctor someday.

Well CRAP I was sure when I read my degree plan it said the world owed me something. Also I said being a Dr for a day because you get to follow one around watching his every mood, I don't remember saying you actually got do stuff.😕 Chill I have no issues with anything I was just irritated at the moment.

 

[driven2011]

Have you ever been a CNA? It's not all that mentally challenging, but it sure as hell ain't easy.



OP, it took me months and dozens of applications to get a job as a PCT, and I was an EMT with two years of volunteer experience. If you want to work as a PCT so badly, get a certification and stop whining. Nearly every hospital CNA/PCT has to do a year of work in a nursing home to get experience before moving to the hospital. Being pre-med doesn't make you a special unique snowflake that should automatically deserve these jobs.

The sheer entitlement that some people on this forum exhibit astonishes me sometimes.

I do feel entitled because I am a Pre-Med student on SDN. You have got to be kidding me. I was just on a rant for a second, I wasn't ever denied a job I had just applied. As far as working there for a year or whatever making them not want to hire me, I don't care what they think. I recently worked for a company that hired me and worked me 89 days and then fired me only to hire me again 3 different times. I am a certified welder so I know a craft so sorry if I rant from time to time about somethings.

 

[AsianPersuasion]

Have you ever been a CNA? It's not all that mentally challenging, but it sure as hell ain't easy.



OP, it took me months and dozens of applications to get a job as a PCT, and I was an EMT with two years of volunteer experience. If you want to work as a PCT so badly, get a certification and stop whining. Nearly every hospital CNA/PCT has to do a year of work in a nursing home to get experience before moving to the hospital. Being pre-med doesn't make you a special unique snowflake that should automatically deserve these jobs.

The sheer entitlement that some people on this forum exhibit astonishes me sometimes.

👍👍👍 Agree! Before working in the ICU I used to work in LTC 2nd shift 3-11 where the CNA to residents ratio is 1/22. with 2 CNA working with 44 patients.

Trying rolling a 260 lbs patient dependent with dementia by yourself because your short staffed and placing a bed pan under them than later to find them squeezing their BM and dirtying themselves and the mattress, with 7 call lights ringing....It's hard!

and don't get me started with those CRANK BEDS!!!! UGH!!!!!

But my philosophy is you gotta start somewhere. And when your at the bottom you'll really appreciate and have a better understanding when your at the top.

Unfortunately, many new physician and residents don't understand this and treat us like crap.

 

[BigMac92]

Are you a CNA at a big hospital or something?


Does anyone know if ER Techs do this sort of thing?

 

[AsianPersuasion]

Are you a CNA at a big hospital or something?


Does anyone know if ER Techs do this sort of thing?

Are you talking to me?

 

[BigMac92]

Well there is no one here, so you gotta be talking to me


...yes, I am

 

[deleted357625]

I applied to McDonalds as a last resort and was under-qualified supposedly because i didn't get the job... so don't feel bad man.

 

[AsianPersuasion]

Well there is no one here, so you gotta be talking to me


...yes, I am

Consider that a privilege!! just kiddin

Yes, after paying my dues in LTC I finally landed a position in ICU thank holykoreanjesus!!

Yes, There are many ER techs at my hospital. You can work as an ER tech with CNA training they'll teach you EKG which is really easy and phleb.

I was gonna go the ER root but there was no position at the time. But being in the ICU I learned alottt of things and having both intensivist and resident there is really nice also. When they're doing some cool procedure I get to be there to see it too. 🙂 Which today I saw my first thoracocentesis! 🙂

 

[mulzstl]

Are you a CNA at a big hospital or something?


Does anyone know if ER Techs do this sort of thing?

The ER techs at my hospital are responsible for answering call lights, getting ekgs, drawing blood, putting splints, help with sutures. They do a lot.

 

[rgerber85]

I hate this economy. I have a Masters of Science in Energy Metabolism and Exercise Physiology... with extensive clinical research application. It's sooooo hard for me to find a job. =/