why is medicare part D a problem?

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hi everyone!! i have been volunteering at a pharmacy from a while but there is one question which everyone knows about but i still don't get it...everyone says that medicare part D is a problem for the pharmacists and pharmacists have been dealing with it and things like that....but i really don't get how it is a problem for them? can you guys please give me more information on this.

thank you so much.
 
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hi everyone!! i have been volunteering at a pharmacy from a while but there is one question which everyone knows about but i still don't get it...everyone says that medicare part D is a problem for the pharmacists and pharmacists have been dealing with it and things like that....but i really don't get how it is a problem for them? can you guys please give me more information on this.

thank you so much.

I work at a pharmacy association and have found that most of the problems with Medicare Part D are with eligibility and plan coverage. Without making this conversation too complicated, the major problem with eligibility is the persons information in the system is not showing up in real-time for the pharmacist. Therefore, the patient is saying they are covered under one particular plan; however, the pharmacy sees other plan information the system. Another problem is with plan coverage. There may be a drug that is not covered or requires prior authorization. If a drug is not covered and this is the first time the patient has been subscribed this medication, the patient can get a one-time fill until the doctor changes the medication to a drug on formulary. If on the other hand a prior authorization is required, the pharmacist/patient has to send a prior auth form to the physicians office and they have to complete it and send it to the pharmacy plan. This slows down the flow of production in the pharmacy.

Also, I heard about the messaging in the pharmacy being a problem.

You should speak to the pharmacist and ask them if they are experiencing any major problems. Right now is open enrollment until December 31st. Normally most of the problems occur during the first of the year, especially with the patients that have switched plans. Again, I can go on and on about this, but this is just a little information. Hope I didn't confuse you.
 
I work at a pharmacy association and have found that most of the problems with Medicare Part D are with eligibility and plan coverage. Without making this conversation too complicated, the major problem with eligibility is the persons information in the system is not showing up in real-time for the pharmacist. Therefore, the patient is saying they are covered under one particular plan; however, the pharmacy sees other plan information the system. Another problem is with plan coverage. There may be a drug that is not covered or requires prior authorization. If a drug is not covered and this is the first time the patient has been subscribed this medication, the patient can get a one-time fill until the doctor changes the medication to a drug on formulary. If on the other hand a prior authorization is required, the pharmacist/patient has to send a prior auth form to the physicians office and they have to complete it and send it to the pharmacy plan. This slows down the flow of production in the pharmacy.

Also, I heard about the messaging in the pharmacy being a problem.

You should speak to the pharmacist and ask them if they are experiencing any major problems. Right now is open enrollment until December 31st. Normally most of the problems occur during the first of the year, especially with the patients that have switched plans. Again, I can go on and on about this, but this is just a little information. Hope I didn't confuse you.

You can also run into problems if your pharmacy is not a preferred provider under their drug plan. The Part D plan finder estimates costs based on efficient use of the plan (pt is prescribed drugs on formulary, is compliant with meds, goes to participating pharmacy, etc) any deviation from this use is an increased cost to the patient. Typically the pt will not know how to pick the most appropriate plan for themselves and the pharmacist won't have enough information to assist them in making corrections in the limited amount of time they have with the patient. Switching plans is a hassle and there are other issues, but these are a few more issues that you may not experience unless you are on Plan D or come across a patient who has these issues while you are in the pharmacy and have the time to pay attention to the frustration that can be caused.
 
I'm more on the administrative end of Part D, and it can be a challenging, administrative nightmare! Being overseen by the government, they issue requirements that must be met. Sometimes these requirements are very vague and open to each different health plan's interpretation. This can become a problem for pharmacists indirectly because they can't and should not be expected to keep all of the different intricacies for each patients health plan separate. Also some of the guidelines they issue would be great if we were living in a perfect world. But alas, the world just isn't perfect. I am not looking forward to the 2008 changes. I could go on and on about this, but I will spare you all.

And to complicate things more, a participating pharmacy may or may not be a "preferred provider". I think this was a problem in 2006 and has begun to resolve itself in 2007. Then, Medicare allows their members to receive up to a 3 month supply at a participating pharmacy for 3x their copay amount (if it's a preferred participating pharmacy then they get 3 months for 2x their amount - usually). Some individual pharmacists were unaware of how this worked and would often tell members that they could not get more than a 30 day supply (since that is how most health plans allow patients to fill). This backs up my previous statement that we can not expect pharmacists to know everything about each plan. They have more important things to do than this.

I'll stop now. Looks like I went on and on. Sorry!
 
The prior-authorizations and non-formulary issues don't seem to be any worse than with private insurance, IMO.

I think the biggest issues are high deductibles and understanding the gaps patients may face. Most patients don't really understand what being "in the gap" means and they get frustrated. I've witnessed patients turn down prescriptions and stop taking medications because they didn't want to pay their out-of-pocket "in the gap" prices.

Copays are pretty unpredictable. Some are really low, some are really high. They just seem really inconsistent for the type and retail price of medication they're getting.

IMO, I don't think most patients are on the "best" plan for them. I feel like there are a lack of resources for patients and pharmacies to help the patients choose the most efficient plan.
 
Low reimbursements. Pharmacies are limited when charging dispensing fees for Part D patients. Since insurance is already a hassle, pharmacies are getting "short changed" for filling Part D scripts. Cash scripts will always be the most profitable, because the pharmacies can charge their full dispensing fee.
 
Low reimbursements. Pharmacies are limited when charging dispensing fees for Part D patients. Since insurance is already a hassle, pharmacies are getting "short changed" for filling Part D scripts. Cash scripts will always be the most profitable, because the pharmacies can charge their full dispensing fee.

to add to this...about 1% (about 1000 something) independent pharmacies shut down last/this year because of slow reimbursements by part D
 
hi everyone!! i have been volunteering at a pharmacy from a while but there is one question which everyone knows about but i still don't get it...everyone says that medicare part D is a problem for the pharmacists and pharmacists have been dealing with it and things like that....but i really don't get how it is a problem for them? can you guys please give me more information on this.

thank you so much.

The donut hole... try telling a patient that they have exceeded their maximum limit and have to pay the whole price for the prescription...
 
I hate this program...it gives our pharmacy nothing but problems..and the patients dont understand why we cant get a whole basket of random items to go through in 10 minutes!!!!!!!!!!
 
I also find that they pharmacists get very frustrated because it takes so much time, so instead of helping patients with medication related problems they are trying every type of baby wipe (diapers, cotton balls, vitamins...etc) trying to get them covered by this program!!
 
"What do you mean my Rx is $153.00, my co-pay is supposed to be $10." I see maam, but you are in you're coverage gap you know the "donought hole." "Whatta ya mean coverage gap?" ARRRRRRRRRHHHHH How do they not know this? or maybe they do.
 
I must have made about 20-30 phone calls today to patients whose 2007 part d plan had expired, and I needed their 2008 part d card. Half of them didn't seem to know that they had a new plan. One lady was clueless and told me "well maybe I ought to go check the PO box", so I asked "how long has it been since you checked it?" "3 weeks or more. . . " 😡
One woman called me seriously like 6 times regarding her new coverage and after I *patiently* helped her figure it out she still sent her husband with the 2007 card and then insisted she give me the info over the phone. We all know how easy that is to do!:meanie:
 
thank you soo much everyone for all your help!! i really appreciate it! 🙂
 
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