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There arent too many related posts, some are from 2008' ish earlier .

What I gathered was for reasons stats were too low, or couldnt afford the tuition, but why would anyone withdraw applications? Ultimately cant you just turn down an interview if you get it? Like if youve paid for the primary application fee, isn't it worth seeing how far you can go/ have more options??
 
kingkapoor said:
There arent too many related posts, some are from 2008' ish earlier .

What I gathered was for reasons stats were too low, or couldnt afford the tuition, but why would anyone withdraw applications? Ultimately cant you just turn down an interview if you get it? Like if youve paid for the primary application fee, isn't it worth seeing how far you can go/ have more options??
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Because it costs more to go through paying for secondaries when you end up getting an MCAT that is too low after you've already sent in your primary application.

Each secondary application you send in is around $80-150 per school.
 
I withdrew an application. I had already been accepted to a much cheaper and knew I wouldn't go to the other school if they accepted me. So why waste time having them continue to review my application and waste my time and money to go to the interview?
 
samac said:
I withdrew an application. I had already been accepted to a much cheaper and knew I wouldn't go to the other school if they accepted me. So why waste time having them continue to review my application and waste my time and money to go to the interview?
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Ah I see so this was in a clear cut scenario, thanks!
 
mathnerd88 said:
Because it costs more to go through paying for secondaries when you end up getting an MCAT that is too low after you've already sent in your primary application.

Each secondary application you send in is around $80-150 per school.
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This would be in extreme scenarios though right?
 
DrMikeP said:
I bet it has happened more often than people admit. There are tons of <500/<25 SDN posts on what do I do because no school will take me.
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But prior to last year a couple of schools had 24, 25 MCAT averages right?
I personally have a 26 and am trying to get the new MCAT score up, but someone with a 23 who has already paid for the first application could at least take a shot with around 10 reasonable schools right?
I mean if someone is in extreme financial disrepair fine, but if that 500-1000 bucks lands an acceptance, it would be one less year they would be worried about medical schools, one more year of income, and I guess they could always try to retake the MCAT and submit the score asap?

Edit: what Im trying to ask is , besides financial loss, is there any negative affect to applying again a following year? Like if Donald Trump's son applied to medical schools with a 20 MCAT and 2.5 GPA just to test his luck, then the following year retakes some classes and MCAT and gets like a 3.2 GPA and a 30+ MCAT.
 
Or maybe just because you got in somewhere acceptable and have a reasonable certainty that the schools you haven't heard from yet just haven't sent the inevitable rejections, so -- Reject them first! Improve your 'batting average' and walk away being able to say that you rejected them and not the reverse.
 
kingkapoor said:
But prior to last year a couple of schools had 24, 25 MCAT averages right?
I personally have a 26 and am trying to get the new MCAT score up, but someone with a 23 who has already paid for the first application could at least take a shot with around 10 reasonable schools right?
I mean if someone is in extreme financial disrepair fine, but if that 500-1000 bucks lands an acceptance, it would be one less year they would be worried about medical schools, one more year of income, and I guess they could always try to retake the MCAT and submit the score asap?

Edit: what Im trying to ask is , besides financial loss, is there any negative affect to applying again a following year? Like if Donald Trump's son applied to medical schools with a 20 MCAT and 2.5 GPA just to test his luck, then the following year retakes some classes and MCAT and gets like a 3.2 GPA and a 30+ MCAT.
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Yes there have been and are people getting into DO with 25ish MCATs but that is fast becoming the exception and not the rule, and very very rarely now does anyone get into an MD program with a <25 MCAT. Getting in with a 23 even last year was all but hopeless. There will always be exceptions that have family who donated medical wings, have some magical science background, 4.0 gpa and daddy is the dean, etc. But aiming for that .001% of applicants mark is like expecting to get struck by lightening.

The negative besides money with applying without the strongest app is that many schools view reapplicants more poorly and at some schools that can mean you go at the bottom of the stack. It shows poor judgment if you waste people's time with absurdly low scores (low 20's or less). Quite a few schools ask in secondaries if you applied previously to either DO or MD and if so what did you do to improve.

You should have a shot with a 26 at DO if the rest of your app is good, you apply broadly, and you find a school that accepts the old mcat. Unless you have something magical in your favor MD is very very unlikely. If you only want MD then you'd likely imo be better offer withdrawing before secondaries. Good Luck
 
DrMikeP said:
Yes there have been and are people getting into DO with 25ish MCATs but that is fast becoming the exception and not the rule, and very very rarely now does anyone get into an MD program with a <25 MCAT. Getting in with a 23 even last year was all but hopeless. There will always be exceptions that have family who donated medical wings, have some magical science background, 4.0 gpa and daddy is the dean, etc. But aiming for that .001% of applicants mark is like expecting to get struck by lightening.

The negative besides money with applying without the strongest app is that many schools view reapplicants more poorly and at some schools that can mean you go at the bottom of the stack. It shows poor judgment if you waste people's time with absurdly low scores (low 20's or less). Quite a few schools ask in secondaries if you applied previously to either DO or MD and if so what did you do to improve.

You should have a shot with a 26 at DO if the rest of your app is good, you apply broadly, and you find a school that accepts the old mcat. Unless you have something magical in your favor MD is very very unlikely. If you only want MD then you'd likely imo be better offer withdrawing before secondaries. Good Luck
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Thanks I was just curious about why people withdraw and if they would take their chances provided no financial issues. And you hit my main question on the dot, if reapplying affects you.

I already did a whataremychances post multiple times and I have other posts so I have an idea im kinda screwed this cycle. No I dont care much about MD vs DO since I want to practice in the states.
 
DrMikeP said:
Yes there have been and are people getting into DO with 25ish MCATs but that is fast becoming the exception and not the rule, and very very rarely now does anyone get into an MD program with a <25 MCAT. Getting in with a 23 even last year was all but hopeless. There will always be exceptions that have family who donated medical wings, have some magical science background, 4.0 gpa and daddy is the dean, etc. But aiming for that .001% of applicants mark is like expecting to get struck by lightening.

The negative besides money with applying without the strongest app is that many schools view reapplicants more poorly and at some schools that can mean you go at the bottom of the stack. It shows poor judgment if you waste people's time with absurdly low scores (low 20's or less). Quite a few schools ask in secondaries if you applied previously to either DO or MD and if so what did you do to improve.

You should have a shot with a 26 at DO if the rest of your app is good, you apply broadly, and you find a school that accepts the old mcat. Unless you have something magical in your favor MD is very very unlikely. If you only want MD then you'd likely imo be better offer withdrawing before secondaries. Good Luck
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kingkapoor said:
Thanks I was just curious about why people withdraw and if they would take their chances provided no financial issues. And you hit my main question on the dot, if reapplying affects you.

I already did a whataremychances post multiple times and I have other posts so I have an idea im kinda screwed this cycle. No I dont care much about MD vs DO since I want to practice in the states.
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Unfortunately you are considered a reapplicant once you submit those primaries so it doesn't matter. If you withdraw before you submit your secondary, you are still considered a reapplicant.

The only time where you wouldn't be considered a reapplicant is if you never submitted a primary application to the school or you withdraw before your application is verified and transmitted to schools.
 
mathnerd88 said:
Unfortunately you are considered a reapplicant once you submit those primaries so it doesn't matter. If you withdraw before you submit your secondary, you are still considered a reapplicant.

The only time where you wouldn't be considered a reapplicant is if you never submitted a primary application to the school or you withdraw before your application is verified and transmitted to schools.
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Yes, thanks for catching that, it should have been primaries. Some also look at if you've ever submitted to any school even if not theirs.

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What did OP do to get nailed by the banhammer? He sent me two PMs asking not to respond to his posts, even though they were filled with foolishness.
In a teaching moment, the OP's viewpoint was telling. Everything about IIs was based upon a single metric. One doesn't hit a home run simply because a pitcher throws a fastball.
 
Goro said:
What did OP do to get nailed by the banhammer? He sent me two PMs asking not to respond to his posts, even though they were filled with foolishness.
In a teaching moment, the OP's viewpoint was telling. Everything about IIs was based upon a single metric. One doesn't hit a home run simply because a pitcher throws a fastball.
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He also came with a different account, which was also deleted.
 
I just read in a few other thread what a loose cannon he was, so it doesn't surprise me. As a teachable moment, kingkapoor was an SGU refugee, so I'm not surprised that he was DOA at all the DO schools he applied to. But to him, his GPA was the culprit.
 
Goro said:
I just read in a few other thread what a loose cannon he was, so it doesn't surprise me. As a teachable moment, kingkapoor was an SGU refugee, so I'm not surprised that he was DOA at all the DO schools he applied to. But to him, his GPA was the culprit.
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Culprit is probably that they hire people like you on the admissions committee
 
NasusInTheJungle said:
Culprit is probably that they hire people like you on the admissions committee
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Well look at this, made a new account and was banned within a day. Good job there.
I'm glad they hire people like Goro that do admissions. So people like this didnt end up in my medical class.
 
samac said:
Well look at this, made a new account and was banned within a day. Good job there.
I'm glad they hire people like Goro that do admissions. So people like this didnt end up in my medical class.
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Be careful, he's going to send you a PM soon.
 
Strange thing is he made a post in the main forum saying how he got a secondary during off office hours or something... very odd...
 
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