Just kidding, I go to a small LAC and love it!
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I truly don't understand the logic behind this. Private school are so very expensive and often times much less know and respected than the top 20 public schools in the country. I could perhaps understand going to Harvard, Yale, etc, but even then, is it really necessary. A 4.0 and 35 MCat from a good state school will take you just as far. For example, at the start of my UG I could have gone to Duke for around 45K a year, however I opted for a top 20 public university(in the top 20 public universities, not top 20 out of all universities). Between scholarhips and being an RA, I actually profit around a thousand dollars a year. I am essentially paying 200K dollars less than the guy that goes to any sort of private school, from Harvard to a tiny LAC, and have the exact same opportunity to succeed. Why would you do that? 😕
Ever hear of "financial aid?" Quite a nifty thing, it's when colleges give money to students who otherwise can't afford going to a private university.
Because a 4.0 and 35MCAT at Duke would have looked a lot better. I'm on the adcom at our school and yes, prestige matters.
But some of us have been "cursed" with having parents that make more than 65K dollars a year, yet will not pay for any substantial amount of ones college. Being a white middle class student doesn't open up a lot of scholarships.
But 200K dollars better, I think not.
But some of us have been "cursed" with having parents that make more than 65K dollars a year, yet will not pay for any substantial amount of ones college. Being a white middle class student doesn't open up a lot of scholarships.
But some of us have been "cursed" with having parents that make more than 65K dollars a year, yet will not pay for any substantial amount of ones college. Being a white middle class student doesn't open up a lot of scholarships.
Ever hear of "financial aid?" Quite a nifty thing, it's when colleges give money to students who otherwise can't afford going to a private university. When it comes down to base cost, I'm probably paying a lot less than you (I could make $10k profit a year if I decide to work as an RA).
Here are some reasons people would go to a better school than yours:
1) Prestige
2) Lower student:faculty ratio, much more highly regarded professors, smarter graduate students to teach small classes --> better education
3) Your peers whom you will form study groups with will be smarter, the courses more difficult --> better educational experience
4) Advantage when it comes to applying to law/medical/business/graduate school and getting a job
5) Alumni connections and peer connections
6) The school can afford to have luxuries not commonly found in state schools
7) You are less likely to get screwed by not being allowed to take as many classes as you want because of class size limitations
8) Better career services/advisers to help guide you (my school's health professions advisers are incredible - definitely part of the reason we have consistently had >90% applicants get into medical school and >25% of those get into top 10 medical schools).
Don't know. I'd never do it. Some people have parents paying their entire way, some have scholarships (merit, need, or athletic). For me, taking out loans to pay for a private undergrad was never an option.
Meh. Whats 200K in the grand scheme of things? You live off ramen for an extra year after you're established.
This is a foolish way of thinking about it, IMO. Don't forget interest compounding while you are in medical school. Not to mention the fact that you'll probably take out another $200k for med school, so you're looking at $400k in principal alone by the time you're done. 😱
I agree with this in some respects, but good state school like in Michigan, Virginia, California, Indiana, etc, possess many of these qualities for a fraction of the cost.
I'm not expecting anyone that is attending one of these private schools to concede to my viewpoint, nor am I attempting to stir conflict, I just searching for reasons. Thanks for all of the insightful responses so far.
As expected your statement highlights the positives of attending a public university. While I do agree that you can receive an education at the top UC's (Berkeley, UCLA, UCSD...kind of...LOL), UMich, Virginia, etc...comparable to highly selective private schools such as Vandy, Rice, Duke, the Old Ivy's (😉), etc..., there are several drawbacks to attending such a large university.
I decided to attend Rice b/c I received merit (non-need) scholarships, it viewed as an elite school yet is more than $10,000 cheaper than its competitors, and it is maintains an identity best defined by the combination of a liberal arts college and top tier research university atmosphere. My largest class was gen chem and we barely had 100 (at most): my smallest size class was 6. Furthermore, I had easy access to ALL of my professors...the idea of a graduate TA teaching a class was a foreign concept.
I am an MS1 at UCSD and I feel like a freaking walking barcode with no real identity. Nothing about this school gives me the impression it maintains an environment permitting people to easily establish their individual identity.
And yes...prestige matters (to an extent) when applying to med school
Ever hear of "financial aid?" Quite a nifty thing, it's when colleges give money to students who otherwise can't afford going to a private university.
That's your own value judgment.
Financial Aid. Financial Aid. Financial Aid. Financial Aid.
It costs less for me to go to a private school than it would have for my state schools.
2) A majority of my classes have been taught with less than 20 students in the class. The entire class not just a recitation section.
3) Only people with PhDs teach the class. There are no student teachers.
3 excellent reasons why a private schools is better. Get off you high horse.
Thats ridic!The only reason that I didn't go to private school for UG was that I got rejected from 7 of them. 🙁
Also, some people have caught on to the fact that a very good public school is a better financial choice than a private school and they all apply there. I'm pretty sure the University of Texas is one of the hardest schools to get into in Texas, right behind Rice(?).
I'm sure you wouldn't just assume your application to Cal Berkeley is going be accepted.
Thanks, Tata! You rock. 🙂Thats ridic!
But you are going to be a doctor -so the joke is on them! 🙂
🙂 well, I only said the truth!Thanks, Tata! You rock. 🙂
I agree with this in some respects, but good state school like in Michigan, Virginia, California, Indiana, etc, possess many of these qualities for a fraction of the cost.
I'm not expecting anyone that is attending one of these private schools to concede to my viewpoint, nor am I attempting to stir conflict, I just searching for reasons. Thanks for all of the insightful responses so far.
Maybe I'll just assume that you meant private schools in general. But maybe not. Maybe you're only thinking of the Top private unis.Here are some reasons people would go to a better school than yours:
I'll give you that as a reason. At least, if you are talking about the top private unis. There are plenty of people who pay a pretty penny to go to a small LAC of some sort.1) Prestige
2) Lower student:faculty ratio, much more highly regarded professors, smarter graduate students to teach small classes --> better education
3) Your peers whom you will form study groups with will be smarter, the courses more difficult --> better educational experience
4) Advantage when it comes to applying to law/medical/business/graduate school and getting a job
5) Alumni connections and peer connections
6) The school can afford to have luxuries not commonly found in state schools
7) You are less likely to get screwed by not being allowed to take as many classes as you want because of class size limitations
8) Better career services/advisers to help guide you (my school's health professions advisers are incredible - definitely part of the reason we have consistently had >90% applicants get into medical school and >25% of those get into top 10 medical schools).
This was true at my public school too.
Assuming that the infomation someone posted about neurosurgeon residents is true, most of the ppl came from top-tier universities. It definitely matters.
find stats across the US. you will find that for the majority of them, this is not true.
you have to keep in mind that public schools are not the same everywhere (much like grade school). it's basically separated by "zoning" (read:states). my options for public schools was much worse than someone from Cali, so it was beneficial for me to go private.
we're also comparing TOP publics to average privates. should we bust out some information on UT-Pan Am or UT-Tyler and compare them to TCU, SMU, etc?You stated that as a reason one should go to a private school and that public schools didn't offer PhD professors. Well, I was just pointing out that my experience was different and that simply by being a public school the quality of my education didn't suffer.
I never claimed that all public schools were equal, but rather that sometimes the quality of education is equivalent to what's offered at private schools.
This concept is the key to top-tier schools placing lots of people in med school. When you only take the most successful high school students, chances are you're going to graduate some of the most successful college students. The same applies to med school.I suspect that many people who go to a top private uni, had great scores, ECs, etc. to get there and are more likely to continue to do those ECs and make those great scores that either going to place you in a top medical school or a medical school in general.
True, but it wouldn't hurt for people to be realistic about their school choices. That, of course, would include a sound appraisal of your school rather than "better students means a better education" crap that gets tossed around occasionally. College is what you make of it. To say with certainty that one choice is better than another is totally naive, regardless of which side you're coming from.either way, insulting/questioning someone's choice in school is a pretty low blow, imo. It's a very personal choice that people are very proud of.
THANK you. it seems i make a post like this every month or so on SDN, but it bears repeating: money is just one thing that can be considered when choosing a school. you may think it's the most important factor, but someone else might place it much lower on their list of things to think about. and that's okay. stop making posts implying that the people who choose to go into debt are idiots and that debt is the worst thing in the world.
we're also comparing TOP publics to average privates. should we bust out some information on UT-Pan Am or UT-Tyler and compare them to TCU, SMU, etc?
like I said, top publics are competitive to get into, but they also offer what a lot of the privates offer: prestige, top-quality academics, top-quality students, networking opportunities, etc. Just because UT has 40,000 students doesn't mean it's not a great school. The fact that it's public (=cheap) just makes it that much better.
Compare the same facts on class size, lecturer degrees, etc to your average public school and you may get a different picture.
either way (not directed at you), insulting/questioning someone's choice in school is a pretty low blow, imo. It's a very personal choice that people are very proud of.
Also, some people have caught on to the fact that a very good public school is a better financial choice than a private school and they all apply there. I'm pretty sure the University of Texas is one of the hardest schools to get into in Texas, right behind Rice(?).
I'm sure you wouldn't just assume your application to Cal Berkeley is going be accepted.
I dunno, your thread title and several other comments sound a little derogatory as well. Why would anyone ever go to a private school? $200k better, I think not?Please refrain from making these foolish, obnoxious, and derogatory comments. I previously stated that I respect the decisions that people make, but am curious to their motivation. This thread has been very insightful. Your belligerence is unnecessary.