With multiple acceptance what should be determining factor?

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To the fortunate that received multiple acceptances what was the deciding factor? I was accepted into Louisville, VCU, and Maryland. As I Virginia resident it would be financially logical to attend VCU, but had the best vibe from Louisville.

Go with my head (save money) or go with my gut (happiest)?
 
To the fortunate that received multiple acceptances what was the deciding factor? I was accepted into Louisville, VCU, and Maryland. As I Virginia resident it would be financially logical to attend VCU, but had the best vibe from Louisville.

Go with my head (save money) or go with my gut (happiest)?

money. What makes you think you'll be "happier" at Louisville?
 
money. What makes you think you'll be "happier" at Louisville?

Good question. I suppose I have a biased opinion of VCU. I have several friends that attend that school. Seems most students are incredibly unhappy and overall the school is very unorganized.

On to Louisville... I am basing my perceptions of the school solely on the interview date. Louisville seemed to have happier students, better connections/friendships with the faculty, the facilities are brand new etc. However it's roughly an extra 30K a year!

I suppose the fundamental question is "is anyone truly happy at dental school given the rigorous course load and sometimes subjective grading in clinical?"
 
Good question. I suppose I have a biased opinion of VCU. I have several friends that attend that school. Seems most students are incredibly unhappy and overall the school is very unorganized.

On to Louisville... I am basing my perceptions of the school solely on the interview date. Louisville seemed to have happier students, better connections/friendships with the faculty, the facilities are brand new etc. However it's roughly an extra 30K a year!

I suppose the fundamental question is "is anyone truly happy at dental school given the rigorous course load and sometimes subjective grading in clinical?"

I think you could be very happy in dental school, but I haven't started yet so I have no idea what I'm talking about. Maybe I'm too optimistic and will be disappointed.

I don't think anyone can really answer this question but yourself. Is 30k a year worth whatever benefits you think Louisville will bring you? Only you can answer that.

FYI, I looooooooooovvvee Louisville (the city).
 
I think $120,000 seems like too much of a difference. I would go VCU. I've seen VCU's dental school, and I've spoken with Dr. Healy there. He seems like a really good guy. I thought VCU's dental school was nice, especially all the new technology in the Perkinson building. If it was $30,000 difference for all four years, then I'd say go with your gut for Louisville.

A lot of my choice was based on my gut telling me, based on everything I saw and the people I spoke with, that Tufts was the best place for me. I will admit that the difference in price between Tufts and the other schools I was accepted to was not $120,000, though.

Obviously, you got accepted, so you can do whatever you want. I will admit that I have never seen Louisville's dental school, nor have I even been to the city. Best of luck.👍
 
To the fortunate that received multiple acceptances what was the deciding factor? I was accepted into Louisville, VCU, and Maryland. As I Virginia resident it would be financially logical to attend VCU, but had the best vibe from Louisville.

Go with my head (save money) or go with my gut (happiest)?
Hey,

You and I are very similar in many ways. I am a VA resident, grew up and even went to school in VA.

Many of my friends from my undergraduate(at least 10) are now attending VCU and some will be entering this summer. Most of my friends are happy at VCU. I also do have a friend attending UofL now and he loves it out there. I have also been to both schools and was very impressed by UofL's new dental school, so I def. know what you are talking about. Plus, Louisville is a great city and it's not that expensive.

I think money matters the most when choosing a dental school. This is why many of my friends from my undergraduate chose instate school, VCU over other schools. However, it is also very important that you attend a school where you will be happy.

Bottom line is... I suggest you go to school where you be happy if money isn't a big issue.

Good luck with your decision.

Pm me if you got any question.
 
To the fortunate that received multiple acceptances what was the deciding factor? I was accepted into Louisville, VCU, and Maryland. As I Virginia resident it would be financially logical to attend VCU, but had the best vibe from Louisville.

Go with my head (save money) or go with my gut (happiest)?

A dental student always wants to go with the happiest place
A dentist will always tell you to go to the cheapest school possible.

The choice is yours, but I'd listen to someone who's been through it all.
 
A dental student always wants to go with the happiest place
A dentist will always tell you to go to the cheapest school possible.

The choice is yours, but I'd listen to someone who's been through it all.

I second this comment. Can't tell you how many dentists have told me the same thing. Must show that once school is over, they probably think back and say "Geez, wish I didn't have this extra $120k to deal with"
 
I think $120,000 seems like too much of a difference. I would go VCU. I've seen VCU's dental school, and I've spoken with Dr. Healy there. He seems like a really good guy. I thought VCU's dental school was nice, especially all the new technology in the Perkinson building. If it was $30,000 difference for all four years, then I'd say go with your gut for Louisville.

👍 I agree with this

I've heard good things about VCU, so that's kind of odd to see on this thread. I haven't seen VCU myself but I've interviewed at Louisville and I used to live there a few years ago. It's a really nice school but not nice enough to spend an extra $120,000 on if you have a cheaper option. I've never been to Richmond either. Louisville is a decent city in general, however I find it boring. But I'm also used to big cities.

It's not guaranteed that you will be happy at Louisville based on what you saw from an interview day. However it's guaranteed that you will save money by choosing VCU over Louisville.

In the end, do what you believe is best for you, even if that means spending an extra $120,000 when you don't have to.
 
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does money buy you happiness?

go where you'll be happy...

or use the money you saved to buy lots of Prozac's

your choice.
 
A dental student always wants to go with the happiest place
A dentist will always tell you to go to the cheapest school possible.

The choice is yours, but I'd listen to someone who's been through it all.


Lots of good advice here. Thanks.
 

Not sure what's so " :wtf: " about that 🙄....

Simply stated that if OP believes it's worth to spend $120,000 in order to go to a certain school, then he can go with that, even if it means turning down the cheaper (less debt) option.

Money may not always buy happiness. But not having an extra $120,000 in debt can help you out later in life.
 
Not sure what's so " :wtf: " about that 🙄....

Simply stated that if OP believes it's worth to spend $120,000 in order to go to a certain school, then he can go with that, even if it means turning down the cheaper (less debt) option.

Money may not always buy happiness. But not having an extra $120,000 in debt can help you out later in life.

I just like the 'spend the extra $120,000 when you don't have to' part thats all lol
 
I believe the choice is a combination of both happiness and money. Choose where you will be happiest first but if your other choices are greater than 100K difference then start talking about money. With that said, if the cheaper school seems terrible for your personality and you really feel you would have a Terrible experience there vs the more expensive school, then spend the extra bread. If the difference in Happiness is smaller then def go less expensive
 
Would you rather go to VCU and have just a little remorse over staying in VA or would you rather go to Lousiville and have buyer's remorse.
 
Don't forget that you might think its a difference of $120,000 but interest plays an important part in ballooning that number to something much higher. You're looking to go a school you think *might* make you happier. In other words, its a huge gamble. The 200k you spend at this school could be used as 20% down on your home, luxury car, dental practice, vacations, or just about anything under the sun you might want to buy.
 
When you go to dental school is it the school that is really going to determine your happiness, school is school no matter where you go but look at what each city has to offer, how far away from family/friends you are, what your hobbies are look to see if you can do them in the city you go to. For my self I race motocross, so that glorious day when I'm in your shoes that might be the deciding factor for me. Motocross is my stress release and god knows you need one of those in dental school. If I were you ( and I wish I was lol) I would go with VCU and buy a Starbucks everyday so it will equal out. I mean it's only 120,000 bucks no big deal hahaha jk
 
zehl,

I was in a similar position as yourself, was accepted to my state school and a private school that i felt gave me the best vibe. However my state school was ~150k cheaper for all four years. as someone mentioned earlier, when you take into account interest its significantly more.

i chose my state school. the way i think of it, post-dental school life is a whole lot longer than 4 years in dental school. would you rather please yourself for 4 years (which are busy and stressful in the first place, no matter where you attend) or please yourself for the rest of your life (pay back loans much faster).

Try think about the long run. Choosing where you go to dental school affects much more than 4 years of your life.
 
Go where you think you fit in best. After you graduate you won't have the lavish lifestyle for a good while but if you think it's worth it, then go for it. I know dentists who are sub 300K in debt and are slowly paying it off but say it is definitely doable.
 
I'll tell you about two people I know.

One of my friends went to his state school. He did not really like the location, he did not really like the building, and for the most part did not like the faculty. Once he got there, He realized he didn't really like the people in his class either. From what he's told me, He basically has two friends at the school, and they aren't that close.

One of my friends went to a private school. He pays double the tuition per year that my friend pays for the state school. He goes to a cleaner campus, nicer weather, a much safer environment, a better looking dental school, and he has access to the nicest equipment for his sim lab and his clinical work. He really likes his classmates and seems to be having a much better time and is networking.

In the end you have to decide money vs happiness. You can always make more money, but you can't buy happiness.
 
Your friend who went to the state school will be much happier when he gradates with half the debt. Your other friend at private school will have more than twice the debt actually when interest is figured into the equation. This whole notion on SDN that cost shouldn't be an issue is insane. I agree it shouldn't be the only issue, but after a certain point it should be the most important consideration. The people on SDN are very intelligent individuals, but are not generally the most financial savvy.
 
I'll tell you about two people I know.

One of my friends went to his state school. He did not really like the location, he did not really like the building, and for the most part did not like the faculty. Once he got there, He realized he didn't really like the people in his class either. From what he's told me, He basically has two friends at the school, and they aren't that close.

One of my friends went to a private school. He pays double the tuition per year that my friend pays for the state school. He goes to a cleaner campus, nicer weather, a much safer environment, a better looking dental school, and he has access to the nicest equipment for his sim lab and his clinical work. He really likes his classmates and seems to be having a much better time and is networking.

In the end you have to decide money vs happiness. You can always make more money, but you can't buy happiness.

:laugh: thats the silliest thing I ever heard. Liking a "building" shouldnt be the sole reason why anyone would pick a school. Also the same thing could have easily happened in reverse. Dont try to make a claim that private is better based on 2 peoples experiences.
 
Although I agree with what you said sniper, These two people are both rather wealthy. That may not be the case for the majority of posters here, but I would assume a good portion of SDN is upper middle class. In the end, it is his decision. I was just using an example I personally know. In the end, he will get his DMD degree. Its just how he gets there. Would he rather get there in a Ford (State school) or a BMW (Private school)? It is a pretty common analogy I usually see. Good luck on whatever you decide and congratulations on the acceptances.
 
:laugh: thats the silliest thing I ever heard. Liking a "building" shouldnt be the sole reason why anyone would pick a school. Also the same thing could have easily happened in reverse. Dont try to make a claim that private is better based on 2 peoples experiences.

Wait until you work in a nice building compared to a crappy building. Then you'll realize you may not be laughing so hard. Everything matters in a dental school applicant and everything matters in a dental school. Peace of mind is a huge thing to have.
 
Yes Walle I would agree with you that if your family is very wealthy, then the cost does not make a difference one way or another. If you are taking out loans tho like the great majority of dental students do, however, then it is something to keep in mind as the financial decisions you make now can impact you for yrs to come.
 
your friend who went to the state school will be much happier when he gradates with half the debt. Your other friend at private school will have more than twice the debt actually when interest is figured into the equation. This whole notion on sdn that cost shouldn't be an issue is insane. I agree it shouldn't be the only issue, but after a certain point it should be the most important consideration. The people on sdn are very intelligent individuals, but are not generally the most financial savvy.

+1
 
Yes Walle I would agree with you that if your family is very wealthy, then the cost does not make a difference one way or another. If you are taking out loans tho like the great majority of dental students do, however, then it is something to keep in mind as the financial decisions you make now can impact you for yrs to come.

I feel sorry for the guy who pays another 100 to 200K for a "prettier building" my guess is that he should go into architecture instead of dentistry 😉
 
I feel sorry for the guy who pays another 100 to 200K for a "prettier building" my guess is that he should go into architecture instead of dentistry 😉

"Why would anyone spend 10,000 dollars on braces?" You can still chew and talk with crooked teeth and a bad bite. Aesthetics matter. If you think they don't, then you should have picked a different profession.
 
"Why would anyone spend 10,000 dollars on braces?" You can still chew and talk with crooked teeth and a bad bite. Aesthetics matter. If you think they don't, then you should have picked a different profession.

that argument makes zero logical sense. I cant even comment on how silly it is.
 
Although I agree with what you said sniper, These two people are both rather wealthy. That may not be the case for the majority of posters here, but I would assume a good portion of SDN is upper middle class. In the end, it is his decision. I was just using an example I personally know. In the end, he will get his DMD degree. Its just how he gets there. Would he rather get there in a Ford (State school) or a BMW (Private school)? It is a pretty common analogy I usually see. Good luck on whatever you decide and congratulations on the acceptances.

Out of curiosity, why?

With the economy in a bad shape and college graduates entering the real world with no jobs, or a not so great job, I'm surprised people aren't thinking about money here. Debt is a part of life, and while no one can avoid loans, it should be encouraged that you take out as less as possible. It will make life easier later on. Owning a BMW might help you stick out and will impress people, but you'll be paying it off longer.

Some people need to go to a private school because they did not get accepted into their state school. It makes sense for them to choose the private school if that's their only option. They'll pay off their debt even though it'll take longer, but I'm sure most of them are aware of that. But for the ones who were accepted into their state school, the choice seems obvious unless you HATE (and I mean really really hate) the state school. On the other hand, if you reject it, you'll make someone from their waitlist extremely happy.
 
Well I am basing that assumption on personal experience. I also read an article that stated that most dental school applicants were in the middle class to upper middle class segment of society. I believe the article said that most dent school applicants come from house holds making 75K or more. I can't remember the article name, and getting to it on my phone would be a pain. I agree money is a huge factor, but so is personal happiness. Private vs State schools is such an old debate. Privates usually focus on DAT and State usually focus GPA. Privates tend to be nicer, but of course they cost more. In the end, he and all candidates have to go with what they think is the best decision for better or for worse. I was simply trying to show their is another side of the argument besides MONEY OMG MONEY DUDE MONEY OMG MAN MONEY.
 
Well I am basing that assumption on personal experience. I also read an article that stated that most dental school applicants were in the middle class to upper middle class segment of society. I believe the article said that most dent school applicants come from house holds making 75K or more. I can't remember the article name, and getting to it on my phone would be a pain. I agree money is a huge factor, but so is personal happiness. Private vs State schools is such an old debate. Privates usually focus on DAT and State usually focus GPA. Privates tend to be nicer, but of course they cost more. In the end, he and all candidates have to go with what they think is the best decision for better or for worse. I was simply trying to show their is another side of the argument besides MONEY OMG MONEY DUDE MONEY OMG MAN MONEY.

The first part is interesting. When I think about it, it shouldn't be that surprising. If a ton of college students can invest thousands of dollars into applications and hundreds to thousands into DAT materials, it makes sense.

Agreed on your comments about private and public schools. Even though money is a huge factor considering final decisions, I hope most people here are smart enough to not choose a school they absolutely hated just because it's cheap. Then again there are applicants on this forum who apply to private schools and freak out about debt and think about reapplying when it's their only acceptance....
 
Life is unfair. Some people with great stats don't get in and some people with mediocre stats get in. Some people get wait listed. I actually knew someone who got into medical school, but couldn't go that year due to a terrible car accident. We can't always pick what school we get into and when we enter that school. I guess we just have to hope our decisions that we make turn out well. Hopefully this guy will make a decision that works out awesomely for himself.
 
I feel sorry for the guy who pays another 100 to 200K for a "prettier building" my guess is that he should go into architecture instead of dentistry 😉

LOL.. classic wired response. No one ever said that someone should pay 100k-200k for a prettier building.
 
LOL.. classic wired response. No one ever said that someone should pay 100k-200k for a prettier building.

your comment wasn't useful to this thread.
 
Well I am basing that assumption on personal experience. I also read an article that stated that most dental school applicants were in the middle class to upper middle class segment of society. I believe the article said that most dent school applicants come from house holds making 75K or more. I can't remember the article name, and getting to it on my phone would be a pain. I agree money is a huge factor, but so is personal happiness. Private vs State schools is such an old debate. Privates usually focus on DAT and State usually focus GPA. Privates tend to be nicer, but of course they cost more. In the end, he and all candidates have to go with what they think is the best decision for better or for worse. I was simply trying to show their is another side of the argument besides MONEY OMG MONEY DUDE MONEY OMG MAN MONEY.

Unless the state school has a horrible program, there would be no other compelling reason to go to a private school. At the end the diploma is the same, but the debt is different. I guess you might come from a rich family, but most people dont. So yes another 100K to 200K matters, call us "thrifty"
 
LOL. There is also no reason for a person to buy a nice tv, drink good beer, and drive a fancy car, but people do those all the time. You spend 100K on the experience, the comfort of nicer environment, peace of mind of possibly being in a safer environment, the opportunity to network with people who may have a lot of wealth, possibly better trained or more qualified staff, a more prestigious school, better working area, nicer sim lab, and better clinic. But hey your right man. It's just a DMD at the end (Rolls eyes). Anyway I've said all i can say, and you have rattled off fantastic responses and seem to have built a great reputation over 5 years. Oh yeah maybe that's why some people pick a private school over a public one..reputation.
 
LOL. There is also no reason for a person to buy a nice tv, drink good beer, and drive a fancy car, but people do those all the time. You spend 100K on the experience, the comfort of nicer environment, peace of mind of possibly being in a safer environment, the opportunity to network with people who may have a lot of wealth, possibly better trained or more qualified staff, a more prestigious school, better working area, nicer sim lab, and better clinic. But hey your right man. It's just a DMD at the end (Rolls eyes). Anyway I've said all i can say, and you have rattled off fantastic responses and seem to have built a great reputation over 5 years. Oh yeah maybe that's why some people pick a private school over a public one..reputation.
i dont even think you're a dental student.. State schools are known for their top quality education i.e Temple, Buffalo, Indiana, Louisville. Their
clinical education often exceeds private schools like Tufts, NYU, USC, etc. And yes at the end of the day it is the same exact diploma. All your other statements are opinions and there is absolutely no proof of them. If you want to go to private school because it gives you "butterflies" I'll accept that, but to say that State schools are worse than Private would be utterly foolish and totally without merit.

Ill also address the following comments:
-Location is not a factor of public or private schools. i.e. Case Western is a private school thats located in the worst part of Cleveland vs. Louisville.
- You'll probably network with fellow d-students that will be as broke as you after going to a super expensive private school esp somewhere like USC
- Prestige doesn't matter whatsoever as your patients wont know or care where you attend dental school
- Better working area is subjective and Sim labs aren't necessary for a good dental experience, they're just fancy toys.
- Clinic comment is 1000% w/o any merit. See above.
- Reputation of private dental schools are no better than public. i.e. Temple offers a better clinical experience than Penn.

The following link will also indicate why you believe that reputation matters, but I suggest you learn from others on SDN that prestige isn't a factor and is not worth another 100 to 200K

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=12251039#post12251039
 
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Unless the state school has a horrible program, there would be no other compelling reason to go to a private school. At the end the diploma is the same, but the debt is different. I guess you might come from a rich family, but most people dont. So yes another 100K to 200K matters, call us "thrifty"

In my opinion, there are state schools that have sub-par facilities and programs in comparison to many of the private schools. I believe you will receive significantly better training at the privates than at these schools. At the end of dental school the diploma is not the same, just as the diploma for different colleges for undergraduate work is not the same. For instance, while technically both bachelor's degrees, there is an obvious difference between a bachelor's degree from Devry and a bachelor's degree from Yale. The degree you are receiving is the same, but the name on that diploma signifies the level of training you received while getting that degree.
 
i dont even think you're a dental student.. State schools are known for their top quality education i.e Temple, Buffalo, Indiana, Louisville. Their clinical education often exceeds private schools like Tufts, NYU, USC, etc. And yes at the end of the day it is the same exact diploma. All your other statements are opinions and there is absolutely no proof of them.

If you want to go to private school because it gives you "butterflies" I'll accept that, but to say that State schools are worse than Private would be utterly foolish and totally without merit.

What qualifications do you have to even make this claim?

You criticize his statements for being opinions and without proof, and then this entire post is all opinion with no proof.:laugh:
 
In my opinion, there are state schools that have sub-par facilities and programs in comparison to many of the private schools. I believe you will receive significantly better training at the privates than at these schools. At the end of dental school the diploma is not the same, just as the diploma for different colleges for undergraduate work is not the same. For instance, while technically both bachelor's degrees, there is an obvious difference between a bachelor's degree from Devry and a bachelor's degree from Yale. The degree you are receiving is the same, but the name on that diploma signifies the level of training you received while getting that degree.

I dont agree on that one bit, its been beaten to death on this board that state schools offer amazing clinical experiences that exceed or match private schools. me and you talked about this day in and out and I think at this point we're arguing over opinions. Yes a good fancy private school like Columbia or Penn is better if you intend on specializing. But if you intend on going down the GP route, you will be absolutely fine going to either a state or private school. A state school will not hinder you and ultimately the end result is the same. Ask students from state schools to chime in and see what they say.

and again just because a diploma has USC or Tufts written on it, doesn't make it better than Temple or UMDNJ. I know you're going to Tufts and you want to make your decision valid, but ultimately the level of education is enough to be comparable. If you make the best of it in any school you will be successful!
 
What qualifications do you have to even make this claim?

You criticize his statements for being opinions and without proof, and then this entire post is all opinion with no proof.:laugh:

Ask students from state schools like Temple, UMDNJ, Buffalo to chime in and you'll see that they'll tell you the same exact thing. About the quality of their clinical experience. The price tag is a rationalization for the most part. The experience is really what you make of it and I dont feel anyone is going to be in any sort of disadvatange going to a state school. If you're a slacker than $1 billion of new equipment wont make you a good dentist. Meanwhile if you work hard you can really maximize your time and learn the necessary clinical skills to be successful.
 
Ask students from state schools like Temple, UMDNJ, Buffalo to chime in and you'll see that they'll tell you the same exact thing. About the quality of their clinical experience. The price tag is a rationalization for the most part. The experience is really what you make of it and I dont feel anyone is going to be in any sort of disadvatange going to a state school. If you're a slacker than $1 billion of new equipment wont make you a good dentist. Meanwhile if you work hard you can really maximize your time and learn the necessary clinical skills to be successful.

Honestly, I'm sure they would say they are getting some of the best training in the country, as that's what pretty much every school said when I was on their interview. After what I saw while on my interviews and speaking with people in the profession, it felt obvious to me that they do not all offer the best in the country.

I think you can be motivated, but that some places offer better facilities, faculty, curriculum, access to specialty programs, and learning environment for motivated students to better prepare themselves to succeed in the dental profession more quickly. There are some outstanding state schools, but there are some that I feel are not. I will agree that this is true for private schools I saw as well, though.

It just bothered me that you gave your opinion as fact about the clinical training, when I have seen some, not all, of the state schools you mentioned and disagreed with your comment.
 
You can think what you want. I actually go to a state school. I never said Private>Public. I just said they're are some differences. Trust me when I interviewed I noticed them. I also noticed how some student weren't exactly ecstatic about their school (Public and Private). I don't get why you are hating on private school. School is school. I was just giving the guy a different opinion. I agree school is what you make of it, but if you are unhappy in your environment won't that effect your studies? It is just an opinion, and I honestly don't think there is any disadvantage going to a state school. Private and state both have advantages. Also as someone who interviewed at USC. The facility and the school were both amazing(the price tag made me hyperventilate, but im sure there is a lot of money to be made in socal). I also looked at Temple's facility...no comment. I've heard Indiana's facility is amazing. It is impossible and downright ignorant to say all private schools are gonna be a nicer environment. Some privates will be nicer, but some public schools will also be nicer!

PS. I may have a family member going into dentistry that does wish to specialize, and maybe I wanted to ask a hypothetical and goad doc toothache into dumping out some knowledge.

Anyway this has turned into private vs public pissing contest. Wired and omnipo please duke it out 🙂
 
Guys, OP already made his or her mind. OP is attending VCU.

No advice and arguments are needed anymore. Let's just respect his choice and wish OP some good luck at VCU.
 
You can think what you want. I actually go to a state school. I never said Private>Public. I just said they're are some differences. Trust me when I interviewed I noticed them. I also noticed how some student weren't exactly ecstatic about their school (Public and Private). I don't get why you are hating on private school. School is school. I was just giving the guy a different opinion. I agree school is what you make of it, but if you are unhappy in your environment won't that effect your studies? It is just an opinion, and I honestly don't think there is any disadvantage going to a state school. Private and state both have advantages. Also as someone who interviewed at USC. The facility and the school were both amazing(the price tag made me hyperventilate, but im sure there is a lot of money to be made in socal). I also looked at Temple's facility...no comment. I've heard Indiana's facility is amazing. It is impossible and downright ignorant to say all private schools are gonna be a nicer environment. Some privates will be nicer, but some public schools will also be nicer!

PS. I may have a family member going into dentistry that does wish to specialize, and maybe I wanted to ask a hypothetical and goad doc toothache into dumping out some knowledge.

Anyway this has turned into private vs public pissing contest. Wired and omnipo please duke it out 🙂

There's nothing to duke out. We're just giving you facts. Cali is one of the most saturated markets in America and is probably the worst go to for dentistry, unless you go to more "rural areas." So no USC is not worth its price tag. And yes the statements you made above we're more inline with expectations, your other post reeked of elitism and glory of "amazing" private institutions, its awesome you cleared that up.
 
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