withdraw application still count as an application cycle?

[Ricegai]

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Hi,

I couldn't find the answer to this and was wondering if when I withdraw my amcas application, will I still count as having applied this application year? My application's status is "ready for review"? I wanted to know b/c this would be my 2nd time applying already and I dont want to be a 3rd time applier. I need to retake the mcat since I took it once and voided the 2nd time not knowingly, which screwed up this application year for md schools...Thanks

 

[alexandertg6]

Hi,

I couldn't find the answer to this and was wondering if when I withdraw my amcas application, will I still count as having applied this application year? My application's status is "ready for review"? I wanted to know b/c this would be my 2nd time applying already and I dont want to be a 3rd time applier. I need to retake the mcat since I took it once and voided the 2nd time not knowingly, which screwed up this application year for md schools...Thanks

that is going to make no difference whatsoever in anything, and there is nothing you could possibly do about it... so why worry?

 

[Ricegai]

it does mean something because if withdrawing the application means I never applied this cycle, which means i never applied a 2nd time, then I would retake the mcat in Jan. and reapply next cycle. Applying 3 times is bad

 

[alexandertg6]

Applying 3 times is bad

according to who?

 

[Ricegai]

well dont tell me its better than applying once or twice lol

 

[vc7777]

Hi,

I couldn't find the answer to this and was wondering if when I withdraw my amcas application, will I still count as having applied this application year? My application's status is "ready for review"? I wanted to know b/c this would be my 2nd time applying already and I dont want to be a 3rd time applier. I need to retake the mcat since I took it once and voided the 2nd time not knowingly, which screwed up this application year for md schools...Thanks

Can you elaborate on this a little more, for my edification, if nothing else?

it does mean something because if withdrawing the application means I never applied this cycle, which means i never applied a 2nd time, then I would retake the mcat in Jan. and reapply next cycle. Applying 3 times is bad

😕

So, you re-took the MCAT, presumably to better your score. And somehow (which I hope you explain) you voided that second exam. If you apply now, it will be with your original score, correct? You have to ask yourself what was wrong with your first application? Did you get interviews? Did you get feedback from those interviews?

Now, about this "Applying 3 times is bad"; perhaps it is, but it is not the end of the world. Second of all, I am not sure what you are basing this on?

 

[aSagacious]

The qualifier simply states whether you are a 'reapplicant' or not, which you would be regardless of how many times before. In any event there is no inherent disadvantage to being a reapplicant. Just be prepared to address the question "how did you improve your application since the last cycle" (which hopefully you have thoughtfully analyzed and corrected by that point).

 

[BrightandClear]

it does mean something because if withdrawing the application means I never applied this cycle, which means i never applied a 2nd time, then I would retake the mcat in Jan. and reapply next cycle. Applying 3 times is bad

Applying multiple times will only have an effect at individual schools. In other words, some schools view reapplicants more or less favorably, some schools only allow you three chances to apply, etc. If you submit your primary, but don't submit any secondaries, it won't really impact your next cycle. You will have to check the reapplicant box on the primary next cycle, regardless.

Also, blanketly stating "applying 3 times is bad" is just silly.

Edited to add: yes, I believe you can withdraw your app at this point.
https://www.aamc.org/students/applying/amcas/faqs/147910/aftersub_shared_2.4.html
It took me about 2.2 seconds to google "amcas withdraw" and find that page, you might try it next time...

 

[Ricegai]

Since I voided my 2nd mcat, my application this cycle would pretty much be the same as the first one except for a few more EC's. I've obviously planned on improving my application by improving mcat and EC's and since I did not get a new mcat score for this application cycle, should I just withdraw this year's MD application, retake Mcat in JAN/feb, and apply next cycle??? I'm also applying DO this cycle.....Sorry as this may seem confusing

 

[Ricegai]

actually to clarify my question, would most med schools still count this as applying for a 2nd time or not after I withdraw??

 

[Seven of Nine]

if you withdraw your application BEFORE you are verified, then you are NOT considered an applicant for that cycle.

 

[vc7777]

Since I voided my 2nd mcat, ...Sorry as this may seem confusing

Still...I must know, how the heck did this happen?!

 

[Sesom]

it does mean something because if withdrawing the application means I never applied this cycle, which means i never applied a 2nd time, then I would retake the mcat in Jan. and reapply next cycle. Applying 3 times is bad

If an application was considered worse after more than one application attempt then what would be the point of applying more then once at all? It's a paradox.

 

[cinamin]

if you withdraw your application BEFORE you are verified, then you are NOT considered an applicant for that cycle.

Thank you for answering this.. where did you find this information BTW? I was wondering the same. This is my first time applying, took the MCAT in August, still waiting for scores... I'm going to submit the primary but withdraw if my scores aren't sufficient... so I won't be considered a reapplicant next year right?

 

[sector9]

Thank you for answering this.. where did you find this information BTW? I was wondering the same. This is my first time applying, took the MCAT in August, still waiting for scores... I'm going to submit the primary but withdraw if my scores aren't sufficient... so I won't be considered a reapplicant next year right?

You will be considered a reapplicant if you are verified. You won't be a reapplicant in you aren't verified.

And you can't withdraw through AMCAS after you're verified anyway. You would have to withdraw individually from the schools or not submit the secondaries. So as far as AMCAS is concerned, once you're verified, you have applied to medical school.

Source is AMCAS manual.

 

[sector9]

that is going to make no difference whatsoever in anything, and there is nothing you could possibly do about it... so why worry?

It would make a difference at some schools. When you add schools to your AMCAS, you have to answer "Have you applied to this school in previous years?" If the OP did not apply to a particular school during his first attempt but does have that school on his AMCAS this time, then his reapplicant status would differ based on if he withdraws before he is verified.

IF the OP withdraws before verification, then he answers "no" to the reapplicant question when he adds that school when he submits his application for the third time. If the OP doesn't withdraw and is verified, then he has to answer "yes" if he decides to reapply to that same school.

Whether the reapplicant status hurts you too much will vary by school, of course

 

[Ricegai]

thanks for the advice sector9!!!! that's why I was precisely asking about this

 

[BrightandClear]

If the OP doesn't withdraw and is verified, then he has to answer "yes" if he decides to reapply to that same school.

Not necessarily, it's case by case. Case (ha ha, puns are fun) only considers you a re-applicant if you've completed their secondary previously and received a decision (reject/interview/hold, etc.).

The quote is probably true for most schools though.

 

[sector9]

Not necessarily, it's case by case. Case (ha ha, puns are fun) only considers you a re-applicant if you've completed their secondary previously and received a decision (reject/interview/hold, etc.).

The quote is probably true for most schools though.

It's NOT a case-by-case issue as far as the primary AMCAS application is concerned, which is what I'm talking about. The AMCAS instructions are very clear that you are supposed to say "Yes" to the question "Have you previously applied to this school?" on the primary application if your primary was verified and the school was on your list.

How the school views reapplicants is a different issue and you are completely correct. Even if you mark "Yes" on the primary app, some schools don't consider you a reapplicant unless you completed the secondary, etc. Some schools ask about your reapplicant status on their secondary, and those questions vary from "Have you previously applied to any medical schools? What have you done to strengthen your app?" to "Have you previously applied to our school?" or even "Have you interviewed at our school before?"

Just wanted to clarify the issue🙂

 

[xadmin]

Yes you should withdraw from this cycle

 

[BrightandClear]

It's NOT a case-by-case issue as far as the primary AMCAS application is concerned, which is what I'm talking about. The AMCAS instructions are very clear that you are supposed to say "Yes" to the question "Have you previously applied to this school?" on the primary application if your primary was verified and the school was on your list.

How the school views reapplicants is a different issue and you are completely correct. Even if you mark "Yes" on the primary app, some schools don't consider you a reapplicant unless you completed the secondary, etc. Some schools ask about your reapplicant status on their secondary, and those questions vary from "Have you previously applied to any medical schools? What have you done to strengthen your app?" to "Have you previously applied to our school?" or even "Have you interviewed at our school before?"

Just wanted to clarify the issue🙂

Ah, yes, you're right.

Total skimming/reading comprehension fail on my part. 😳