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Hello,

I can withdraw before being dismissed and apply again. If I withdraw my bad grades won't appear in my record but if I keep trying and I still don't pass and they dismiss me everything is gonna be in my record and no other dental school will take me. What should I do? I really want to be a dentist. Help please!
 
Are you in dental school right now?
 
Why are you being dismissed? If you apply to another program, I'm pretty sure they ask you if you've ever attended or enrolled at another school before on aadsas (although I could be wrong). Are you planning on saying no? If you say yes, they will ask why you left? They will also probably contact the school if your story seems fishy. People just don't withdraw from a school and then apply to another school the next year.
 
no offense, but what makes you think you'll be able to hack it at another dental school? if your grades sucked at one, they will equally suck at another. switching schools is clearly not the solution.
 
Maybe you're not cut out for dental school so you should stop the damage before wasting all that money. Have you considered something less strenuous like optometry or dental hygiene?
 
Maybe you're not cut out for dental school so you should stop the damage before wasting all that money. Have you considered something less strenuous like optometry or dental hygiene?

Lol, u kiddin me?
 
Lol, u kiddin me?

how is it you find yourself reading a dental related thread? i don't know much of optometry so i have no opinion of the field. In turn, what of your knowledge of dental school? Enough to accurately compare the disciplines? maybe being tied with dental hygiene school [by the other guy] got your attention? just being picky.


as for OP: are you kidding me?!
 
all i was saying is that optometry school isn't easier than dental school.

Also, Seinfeld. 😉
 
To quit or not

Can you push it to the max or what?

U playing videogames in class? u attending the lectures? Are you on gchat and wasting time? Is this a 1st year thing? Not used to the work? Figure out what the problem, take a family medical leave if you have some personal stuff and shore up your inequities. I can tell you 2nd year sucks more and I want to quit 2 days before every midterm/final. It sucks so hard and I am passing the exams. (not by crazy levels) ANyway, figure out the issue and get back in it when you are ready. When the start pistal fires, don't stop until 4yrs later. (well maybe 2 yrs it gets a little bit better in 700 days.)
Chill out everyone. We're not having a debate here.
 
I like this reply the most.

you want some really good advice. Have you ever thought that maybe dentistry is not the right career for you. or that you are just not cut out for it. so change career. You know, in this forum there are so many problems and issues that people post about. This and that and this and that. Most just reply that oh you can do this or try this or do it this way or that way or etc etc etc. Have any of you ever thought that there are some people that got accepted to dental school and just find out they don't have the mustard to cut it in dentistry.. therefore the only solution is to stop and find another career. we are not in little league where every kid has to play and have a chance wether they can hit the ball or not. we're in the professional league, some will hack it some won't -- not everyone is going to make it. sure in dental school that is small because most are weeded out prior to entering. however, with all the new dental schools opening up -- the talent pool sure is diluting everyday. so there are bound to be some that get in and find out they don't have what it takes didactically or handskill wise. so those that don't need to face the truth and be told to get out.

and to just tell these people who complain that they can barely pass the didactics. or others that complain the faculty is out to get them by failing or conspiring to fail their waxing project. or others are asking about what their chances are if they drop out of one school and try to gain admission at another school. Hard truth -- Bottom line is there are those that don't have it and so must go. I wish people would just see this and stop giving lip service to these people and let them go their merry way. If they are smart enough to get into dental school why would they not be smart enough to figure out themselves what they need to do with all the support and resources available at the school they are at. it just baffles me that people don't just friggin say -- you just don't have the knack for it, find another profession
 
I like this reply the most.

It is sad... I see students who just simply should choose a different career rather than wasting the 4 years and 200k+ in loans. Sure you could hold out for oral path or radiology but why? No offense to these two specialties, they are both wonderful contributors to dentistry... it's just a long hard road for those who cannot even muster something to pass (which is quite easy these days so long as you listen, put in some work, and to know when to ASK FOR HELP).

And yes, I'm sorry, but optometry or pharmacy are great options for these students because simply those careers do not put their focus upon fine, detailed motor skills. These are both great career options for those who find out they cannot do dentistry.

Good luck.
 
all i was saying is that optometry school isn't easier than dental school.

Also, Seinfeld. 😉

Define easier. We are in classes with optometry students yes, but frankly I'm a little insulted to be. On top of getting curved test grades, they also get "bonus points" for showing up to class and attending the lab sessions. With those kind of points one could probably have an 80 average on tests and end up with an A in the class. That must be nice because OUR test average is our grade period. Optometry is a good profession and I have many friends in the field but I hate having someone flaunt an A in my face when mine took 15 more hours of study to earn on top of juggling lab work. My point is maybe optometry or pharmacy would be a better alternative for OP?
 
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Hello,
I can withdraw before being dismissed and apply again. If I withdraw my bad grades won't appear in my record but if I keep trying and I still don't pass and they dismiss me everything is gonna be in my record and no other dental school will take me. What should I do? I really want to be a dentist. Help please!
Withdrawing is bad, but not nearly as bad as being dismissed.
Seek help! The staff at any D-school would try their best to keep you. If you need to take a year leave of absence to pull things together, do it.
 
Withdrawing is bad, but not nearly as bad as being dismissed.
Seek help! The staff at any D-school would try their best to keep you. If you need to take a year leave of absence to pull things together, do it.

Honestly you guys need to stop. This came here for advice and we should help him out. Anything could have happened, he could be going through a divorce or had a parent pass away. Don't be so quick to judge. I would say talk to your faculty members in the classes that your are not doing well in. Talk with your Dean. I strongly believe if their is a will there is a way!!! Maybe they will allow you to remediate some stuff over the fall break. Look at the bright side you didn't commit academic dishonesty you just had rough patch. We all do!
 
First I must say I have been on both sides of this issue, even now in my career, I decided to retire from the hospital because I could not take the 24/7 on call every July with the new residents.

Students have problems for many reasons. I have posted some of my problems, but will restate them. In dental school, Penn, I was doing well, until my younger brother developed cancer and was dying. I want to faculty and the Dean, Dr. Lester Burket. I wanted to be with my brother. I was told it would be difficult to return, they offered me to take the year "without prejudice"... If I failed, I could repeat... and the bad year would disappear as if I dropped out. The Dean mentored me... one of the reasons I followed in his footsteps in Oral Medicine, and international education and in mentoring.

Some students had had times, death in the family, health problems for them or family, and worked with them... some are now your faculty members... many of my students have stayed in education, some are now deans, ass deans, chairs.
But one case, the dad was pushing dentistry, the student did not want it. With his permission, I arranged and group meeting, he withdrew, went into a different career and is doing great. He was not "stupid" he got a difficult PhD.

The student must be open, hopefully the schools have for mentors (not just teachers).

We all need guidance on what to do any why to stay or change.

Even though I am no longer a program director, this year I taught at 2 programs and continually work with accrediation.
I was going to be at the Greater NY meeting. Going to the residency fair (even without a program) and doing a Sunday afternoon presentation on systemic/oral link - the facts.
BUT, things happen, my brother died Tuesday and I will be with his family. With my many friends, I was able to get a replacement speaker...

We all need friends, we all need help at times, be honest, be open, seek help if you think it may be needed.
 
Honestly you guys need to stop. This came here for advice and we should help him out. Anything could have happened, he could be going through a divorce or had a parent pass away. Don't be so quick to judge.
Pardon me, why did you quote my post and say this? I think you misunderstood my post, which pointed out the OP that withdrawing would be a bad option.
 
They gave me the option of taking a leave of absence and the opportunity to come back. Now I'm considering if I should apply to a different school since they have a PBL curriculum and I don't think I learn that way or come back and try harder with this type of learning. Any advice?
 
They gave me the option of taking a leave of absence and the opportunity to come back. Now I'm considering if I should apply to a different school since they have a PBL curriculum and I don't think I learn that way or come back and try harder with this type of learning. Any advice?

You didn't answer anyone's questions, how can you keep asking for advice and expect a satisfactory response?
 
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