withdrawing before acceptance?

[jamaica jan sun princess]

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You should calculate the opportunity cost of delaying medical school. While a maximum of $500,000 is a crazy amount in loans, by delaying two years, you're giving up two years of income as a doctor. You might find that, 10 years in the future, you'll end up in the same place financially whichever way you go. This brings the decision down to whether you want to become a doctor sooner rather than later.

 

[puahate]

Borderline unethical prices. I still would hold on to the A until further notice

 

[MCG2020]

Hey everyone, I'm new to this thread! I'm just curious: If you were to withdraw your application before acceptance, do other med schools see that? It's my understanding that they can see where you applied and who accepted/rejected you but I'm curious what they would see in regards to you withdrawing from a school prior to them making a decision about you.

 

[Harambe]

Hey everyone, I'm new to this thread! I'm just curious: If you were to withdraw your application before acceptance, do other med schools see that? It's my understanding that they can see where you applied and who accepted/rejected you but I'm curious what they would see in regards to you withdrawing from a school prior to them making a decision about you.

No, other schools don’t see that.

 

[965978]

There are relatively few reasons that a "high stats" candidate becomes a re-applicant.
I'll bet you can you guess what they are.

Poor school list?
Poorly written application?
Bad interviewing skills?
Lack of clinical/volunteer/shadowing experience?

Those are the main ones I hope. I don’t think this will adversely affect a second cycle though?

 

[965978]

Hey everyone, I'm new to this thread! I'm just curious: If you were to withdraw your application before acceptance, do other med schools see that? It's my understanding that they can see where you applied and who accepted/rejected you but I'm curious what they would see in regards to you withdrawing from a school prior to them making a decision about you.

There are only two things a school can see:

1) Whether you have been accepted previously at any AMCAS school

2) Whether you are a re-applicant at said school

You said that schools can see where you got rejected, and that is not true (starting this year).

Some schools, thought will ask you on their secondary if you’ve applied to med school before. Some will even have you list them (*cough* OSU *cough*)

 

[gyngyn]

Poor school list?
Poorly written application?
Bad interviewing skills?
Lack of clinical/volunteer/shadowing experience?

Those are the main ones I hope. I don’t think this will adversely affect a second cycle though?

A person with really high stats can be presumed to have been offered interviews in a previous cycle.
Would you give a precious interview to someone who has already been screened, and despite high stats, not offered a position?

There are states where this will occur because of a paucity of IS applicants, though...

 

[965978]

A person with really high stats can be presumed to have been offered interviews in a previous cycle.
Would you give a precious interview to someone who has already been screened, and despite high stats, not offered a position?

There are states where this will occur because of a paucity of IS applicants, though...

Wouldn't the only schools who know about it be the schools that the applicant applied to before?

Also, if a school does happen to ask about re-application status, wouldn't it benefit the applicant to be self aware about why they didn't do well in their interviews and showcase how they have improved?

 

[gyngyn]

Wouldn't the only schools who know about it be the schools that the applicant applied to before?

Also, if a school does happen to ask about re-application status, wouldn't it benefit the applicant to be self aware about why they didn't do well in their interviews and showcase how they have improved?

Applicants tend to re-apply to the same schools.
Explaining weak interviews is awfully tough...

 

[Goro]

Wouldn't the only schools who know about it be the schools that the applicant applied to before?

Also, if a school does happen to ask about re-application status, wouldn't it benefit the applicant to be self aware about why they didn't do well in their interviews and showcase how they have improved?

The trouble is most interviewing schools will not tell you if you are a bad interviewer, and most people are terrible judges of their own interview performance.

 

[deleted981412]

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Last summer, there was a post a quasi "hypothetical" situation on the internal Yammer forum (at a consulting company for large Federal agencies, VA, and NIH); LOTS of science people work there, lots and lots and lots

Anyway, the poster was saying they'd been accepted to USF - Morsani but didn't want to go there but had no other acceptances and didn't think "Morsani was a very good school have the higher elevated rankings as schools such as Georgetown, Harvard and U Penn" ... In trying to tell this "kid" that Morsani was an excellent school and it was my understanding, the new Dean wanted a median score of 517, that the school would only rise in ranking as the overall school got more research grants, etc.

Turns out, it was the FATHER of the kid... who had a 510 and 3.8 ... that was asking. Kid did NOT attend USF and suspect, will not be going to med school soon. He let the school know 3 days before school started.

No doubt, someone on the WL was overjoyed and overcome with tears hearing from USF that a seat had just opened.

Don't shoot yourself in the foot by rejecting a school because ultimately, if I'm the adcom (and I'm not at any school at any place in any country including the US), I'm going to wonder, "will they do it again to us?" People don't like rejection - students don't, professors don't, and adcom's don't.

I understand the moral of the story but didn't get the father angle. Could you please clarify?

 

[echsmew]

Wouldn't the only schools who know about it be the schools that the applicant applied to before?

Also, if a school does happen to ask about re-application status, wouldn't it benefit the applicant to be self aware about why they didn't do well in their interviews and showcase how they have improved?

Thanks for this. Can we have this verified by the adcoms? @gyngyn @Goro

 

[gyngyn]

Thanks for this. Can we have this verified by the adcoms? @gyngyn @Goro

Ther are three ways that a school may identify you as a re-applicant. AMCAS will indicate that someone who has previously submitted a primary application is re-applicant to that school. Schools use software that permits identification of re-applicants to the school. Some schools ask about previous applications in the secondary.

 

[echsmew]

Ther are three ways that a school may identify you as a re-applicant. AMCAS will indicate that someone who has previously submitted a primary application is re-applicant to that school. Schools use software that permits identification of re-applicants to the school. Some schools ask about previous applications in the secondary.

Just to clarify, however, schools do not see that you were rejected (or waitlisted) elsewhere? If one withdraws pre-decision or from the waitlist, will it just show that they did not gain any acceptance?

Thank you for the quick response!

 

[gyngyn]

Just to clarify, however, schools do not see that you were rejected (or waitlisted) elsewhere? If one withdraws pre-decision or from the waitlist, will it just show that they did not gain any acceptance?

Thank you for the quick response!

We never see where you have applied, were interviewed, wait-listed, accepted or rejected or that any of these has occurred. The exception is that we have information in a current cycle that someone we have interviewed holds acceptances.

 

[KnightDoc]

We never see where you have applied, were interviewed, wait-listed, accepted or rejected or that any of these has ocurred. The exception is that we have information in a current cycle that someone we have interviewed holds acceptances.

I was under the impression that you did not even have that. I thought it was confirmed that CYMS will allow you to see, after 4/30, which of your WL and A candidates have selected PTE or CTE elsewhere, but not that are just holding generic As or WLs. Is that not correct?

 

[gyngyn]

I was under the impression that you did not even have that. I thought it was confirmed that CYMS will allow you to see, after 4/30, which of your WL and A candidates have selected PTE or CTE elsewhere, but not that are just holding generic As or WLs. Is that not correct?

We can presume that someone who is PTE or CTE has received acceptances. Similarly, we will presume that someone who has made neither of these choices did not. We never see if someone is waitlisted elsewhere.

 

[EnEyeAitch]

i interviewed at a school that will be sending out a decision shortly. however, i'm pretty sure i don't want to go to this school.

so i'm aware that if you decline an acceptance(s) (and aren't accepted anywhere else) you're quasi-blacklisted from all med schools.

however, i just wanted to double/triple check that if i withdraw before they can send me their decision, i'll be okay. i'd rather be a reapplicant than attend this school.

i'll be okay to reapply?

Just out of curiosity, did you end up being accepted by the 3rd school you interviewed with? If not, did you accept UIC's offer or will you be a re-applicant?