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Originally posted by hndrx1a
smf: Universidad UCE...you're inspiring, my friend!
and may The God of your choice bless you,
my friend
hasta que llegue a san pedro de macoris
Originally posted by hndrx1a
smf: Universidad UCE...you're inspiring, my friend!
Pitman -
Good post. The only exception I take is that St. George's started out strong (first class to take the NBME, a guy named Jeff (I forget his last name, but can get it) got the high score out of all takers everywhere...792/800 questions right). This was so strong that, this guy getting a high score obviously meant...that he cheated. So the ECFMG exam was born, until 1992.
The buildings were crap, but the instructor core was there, and they brought their friends.
Since the mid-90's, Australia, Ireland and UK, sprouted many 4yr (grad) programs, many from their traditional 6yr systems, and various other isolated grad schools formed (plus more started in the Caribbean), partly to soak up the extra US applicants at the time ($), partly in recognition of the benefits that older, 2nd-career students (college grads) give to medicine in the English system, and in some cases (e.g., Flinders in Aus. if I recall correctly) to help reduce domestic applicants by request of the govt. while saving the schools from bankruptcy. Because many of these were offshoots of established 6yr programs, they escaped much of the stigma factor (plus they benefit from not being seen as "Caribbean resorts/playgrounds", another original indictment against the Carib schools, since most Americans know the islands only as a tourist destination).
-Pitman
To be fair, pitman is speaking not only of the UK. The first 4 year graduate entry program in Australia matriculated its first class in January 1996 - that would qualify as the "mid-90s."
He is correct in stating that *one* of the reasons these courses existed with an International quota was the recognition that many US students would come and bring income. It would be disingenuous to not recognize that.
I think you will find that a lot of the 4 year courses, at least at first didn't even accept international students. None of the UK ones did anyway and some still don't.