Would this class count as BCPM?

[EGITMS]

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Hello everyone,
I went through AMCAS course classification guide but it still confuses me.

I took Urban Ecology class and it is under ENV (environmental studies) department.
However, since ecology is the branch of biology, would it be classified as a BCPM course?

The course description is as follows:

Over 50% of the world's population now lives in urban environments, but ecology is still taught primarily using "natural" ecosystems, with very little recognition of urban areas as ecosystems in their own right. In this course, we will examine urban and suburban gradients through a traditional ecological lens (abiotic controls on populations, species interactions, nutrient cycling, etc), while also recognizing that urban environments are socio-ecological systems.

Thank you very much in advance.

 

[LizzyM]

What do you want it to be? Would it matter for your BCPM GPA for it to be classified one way or another? List it as you please; the worst that could happen is that AMCAS reclassifies it. There is no penalty assessed for having something reclassified, most adcom members wouldn't realize it had been done or care if they did know.

 

[chemdoctor]

What do you want it to be? Would it matter for your BCPM GPA for it to be classified one way or another? List it as you please; the worst that could happen is that AMCAS reclassifies it. There is no penalty assessed for having something reclassified, most adcom members wouldn't realize it had been done or care if they did know.

They won’t think one is trying to “get away” with things? Won’t it slow down the verification process?

 

[LizzyM]

They won’t think one is trying to “get away” with things? Won’t it slow down the verification process?

You make your judgment and hope that the reviewer sees it your way. If that's the case, smooth sailing. If it is not the case, they flip the switch and that takes 2 minutes. If you don't fight the flip, it should slow down the verification process by about 120 seconds.

 

[chemdoctor]

You make your judgment and hope that the reviewer sees it your way. If that's the case, smooth sailing. If it is not the case, they flip the switch and that takes 2 minutes. If you don't fight the flip, it should slow down the verification process by about 120 seconds.

wow awesome. thank you for the help!! didnt know you could fight the flip

 

[907914]

You make your judgment and hope that the reviewer sees it your way. If that's the case, smooth sailing. If it is not the case, they flip the switch and that takes 2 minutes. If you don't fight the flip, it should slow down the verification process by about 120 seconds.

How long is the delay in verification if one does fight the flip?

 

[LizzyM]

How long is the delay in verification if one does fight the flip?

I have no idea. Be wise in choosing your battles.

 

[chemdoctor]

I have no idea. Be wise in choosing your battles.

Yeah I'm guessing most people don't win when they try to fight for a class specifically...

Do you, as an adcom, believe that some people can and DO get away with these things? I know someone who took a stats course at my school in the Psych department though. They are applying but classifying it under nonscience since that is how my school does it.. I've asked on here and everyone told me to classify it and that is what I am going to do...

 

[LizzyM]

Yeah I'm guessing most people don't win when they try to fight for a class specifically...

Do you, as an adcom, believe that some people can and DO get away with these things? I know someone who took a stats course at my school in the Psych department though. They are applying but classifying it under nonscience since that is how my school does it.. I've asked on here and everyone told me to classify it and that is what I am going to do...

We rarely have the time and inclination to pick it apart. Edit: by that I mean to look at each course listed on the AMCAS application and see how it was classified and whether it has the little x with a circle that means that AMCAS changed it -- or whatever that x with the circle means... I know that there are some codes but, truly, they don't get much notice by adcoms. We pretty much take it all at face value by the time it reaches us.

 

[chemdoctor]

We rarely have the time and inclination to pick it apart.

When amcas changes it, is it done through a computer? Or an actual adcom verifies and checks to see all courses count or don’t? Sorry for the stupid question

 

[LizzyM]

AMCAS has worker bees that do the verification of your application upon review of your transcripts. It is all pretty routine I suppose unless something looks out of whack.


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[chemdoctor]

AMCAS has worker bees that do the verification of your application upon review of your transcripts. It is all pretty routine I suppose unless something looks out of whack.


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LOL like having 10000 hours of shadowing in a year xD

 

[chlorocruorin]

When I applied last cycle amcas told me you CAN put the class as anything, but a biology course that's listed as a science course but not classified as BIO on your transcript will count as a mistake. Like others have mentioned above, they'll move it. However, you only get 8 mistakes until they send back your application and you have to re-verify it all over again which would take another 4 weeks. just FYI

 

[chemdoctor]

When I applied last cycle amcas told me you CAN put the class as anything, but a biology course that's listed as a science course but not classified as BIO on your transcript will count as a mistake. Like others have mentioned above, they'll move it. However, you only get 8 mistakes until they send back your application and you have to re-verify it all over again which would take another 4 weeks. just FYI

What do you mean listed as a science course but not classified as BIO?

 

[chlorocruorin]

They told me the course has to be listed on your transcript as biology (usually BIO ### or BIOL ###) Thats why neuroscience doesn't count for BPCM at my school because it's listed as PSYC

 

[ThrowawayShmoaway]

They told me the course has to be listed on your transcript as biology (usually BIO ### or BIOL ###) Thats why neuroscience doesn't count for BPCM at my school because it's listed as PSYC

This is just not true. Many Neuro courses, for example, aren’t listed under BIO and still count for BCPM. I had a number of them myself and AMCAS left them as is. I even had a Neuro course listed as PSYCH on my transcript that they allowed as BCPM

 

[chemdoctor]

They told me the course has to be listed on your transcript as biology (usually BIO ### or BIOL ###) Thats why neuroscience doesn't count for BPCM at my school because it's listed as PSYC

And so that course didn’t count as BCPM for AMCAS as well? Wait so, you had a Neuroscience course that was listed as PSY (same atnmy school) and it didn’t count as BCPM for amcas?

 

[chemdoctor]

This is just not true. Many Neuro courses, for example, aren’t listed under BIO and still count for BCPM. I had a number of them myself and AMCAS left them as is. I even had a Neuro course listed as PSYCH on my transcript that they allowed as BCPM

I think it honestly just depends on whether or not you want them to classify it as science or not...

I have friends that had environmental science classes... they got A's in them, and they counted as Bio bc even tho they are environmental science, they were in my school's BIO department...

I've heard that it is rare for AMCAS to change classes from what the institution has them as... Unless it is something really obviously a BCPM course...

 

[chlorocruorin]

Go off what those who have done it said....im just telling you what the AMCAS peeps told me on the phone last year lol

 

[chemdoctor]

Go off what those who have done it said....im just telling you what the AMCAS peeps told me on the phone last year lol

I think I'm going to call AMCAS and ask them honestly... Did you neuroscience course that was listed as PSY count towards BCPM? Just curious...