Wretched cadaver stench?

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TheMightyAngus

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On my last tour on the interview circuit, I took a big whiff of some really vile cadaver stench--so bad that 4 med student tour guides refused to enter the room (one of whom was uncontrollably gagging). Is it natural for embalmed cadavers to putrify so much as the result of people hacking at it for the past couple months, or do some schools have really inadequate ventilation systems?

Does the smell of your cadaver make you wretch?
 
A properly embalmed cadaver should not be that repulsive, especially for someone who has been around cadavers before. Maybe whomever did the embalming botched it....
 
Praetorian said:
A properly embalmed cadaver should not be that repulsive, especially for someone who has been around cadavers before. Maybe whomever did the embalming botched it....

I don't know, maybe I wasn't wretching but after a full semester of anatomy I never got used to the smell. I always dreaded going into the lab. But you're right it shouldn't be so bad that they couldn't handle walking in there for a minute or two. Maybe they just didn't want to smell like the lab for the rest of the day.
 
Our lab is only two years old and pretty well ventilated and we never seemed to have really big problems. Some of the really old prosections gave a couple of people headaches but that's about it. One wierd thing: the fumes seemed to make people hungry. Has anyone else had that happen?
 
Random said:
Our lab is only two years old and pretty well ventilated and we never seemed to have really big problems. Some of the really old prosections gave a couple of people headaches but that's about it. One wierd thing: the fumes seemed to make people hungry. Has anyone else had that happen?

MCW has a very good lab facility, once you got over teh initial smell, you were fine. The smell never got worse over teh semester, though the abdominal region did provide it's own special aroma.

As for getting hungry, a lot of us noticed that too. Though I like to think it was because we were up and moving for 3 or more hours at a time in the late afternoon.
 
Our cadavers were embalmed by students at the nearby School for Mortuary Science, and a couple of them were done badly, and had to be replaced midway through the year because of the smell. In the interim, the med students hung dozens of those pine tree air fresheners from the ceiling, like in the movie "7" but it didn't help...

Re the smell making you hungry... same thing happens here. I think it's because our gross lab was always right before lunch, and it was a pavlovian thing...
 
it does get pretty funky by the end of the course, but you're in there daily so you get used to it as the increasing stink is gradual. We also found that some cadavers smell worse than others but you get used to the one you work on. Ours never bothered us but some other tables had a smell that would knock us over (but didn't bother them).

This fall, as a second year, I realized that the whole hallway where the lockers are STINKS for a while after the 1st years come through at the end of lab. Last year, when I was one of them, I never knew it.
 
TheMightyAngus said:
On my last tour on the interview circuit, I took a big whiff of some really vile cadaver stench--so bad that 4 med student tour guides refused to enter the room (one of whom was uncontrollably gagging). Is it natural for embalmed cadavers to putrify so much as the result of people hacking at it for the past couple months, or do some schools have really inadequate ventilation systems?

Does the smell of your cadaver make you wretch?

Most of the time all you smell is chemicals. Some cadavers ravaged by disease and the like can have atypical smells though. You get pretty used to it while you are doing it, and rarely notice the smell, but I suppose after a long hiatus from the lab, a tour guide could become re-sensitized. The biggest problem is not the smell to you, but the fact that your hair, clothing etc. will smell like formaldehyde for duration of the entire course and doesn't wash out easilly.
 
Random said:
Our lab is only two years old and pretty well ventilated and we never seemed to have really big problems. Some of the really old prosections gave a couple of people headaches but that's about it. One wierd thing: the fumes seemed to make people hungry. Has anyone else had that happen?

Our lab is new, too, and used to smell nice. Then Hurricane Wilma came and busted the negative pressure machine on the roof. Now, the entire fourth floor reeks of formaldehyde. Wilma showed up only two weeks before anatomy started. I think we got the worst of it and hope that it every thing will be repaired soon.
 
Here's something for the OP to look at... in rooms that have the elphant hoses, they smell bad, it's not that great of ventilation, plus the fact that some cadavers don't take the embalming solution very well so they basically are rotting as you work, but here are some suggestions:

some schools have downdraft available (you turn it on when you work, and off when you're not.. this is a very good suction device, but dries the cadaver out if left on)

You can wear a mask. Anytime I went into the other lab that smelled bad, I just carried some papertowels over my face, seemed to do the trick. But if you continually have to work in that environment, investing in some respirator device (face mask) is worth it.

Realize that the cleaner you keep the lab, the less it will smell. Take on teh responsibility to keep your table free of clots, fat, fluid solution that came directly from the body and empty the bucket where it drains often. Be sure to get the human remains that are thrown out emptied as soon as possible. Also realize that the more you keep the cadaver sprayed down with the wetting solution, the more it will smell like "downy" or whatever your solution is made out of.

In addition, if you are using cheesecloths, change them out. Once you open teh abdomen, some strange smells will arise, particularly if you cut the bowel. Lastly, when your teacher tells you to tie off the rectum, clean any fecal matter ( I know that sounds really disgusting), but you will benefit from it in the end, just do it once, and get it off your table so you don't have to smell it later. Lastly, keep organs like lungs and heart in ziploc bags. They tend to carry moisture and putrid smells.

Also one thing you can suggest to your lab technician (usually an undergrad or someone who runs the lab) to use a lysol mop in the lab. It will make a world of difference. Even if it happens like 2 times a semester or whatever, it will relieve the odor temporarily.

As far as you smelling, this is always fun. Wash your scrubs at least weekly, double glove using nitrile gloves as your base and latex gloves on top (this will reduce how your hands smell). Always change before leaving the lab so you don't bring back smells into your home or car.

Sorry I just wrote a book on anatomy hygeine but i hope it helps ease your woes about anatomy lab. There really is a lot you can do to make the work conditions bearable.

PS> yes... bring food to munch on when you take breaks from lab... you will be starving.. it sound like a bad combo, but right as you're unveiling the sartorius and just before you truly discover what the gracilis is, you will be craving a Peanut butter and jelly sandwich :laugh:

Good Luck, it's an awesome class!
 
One group in our lab sprays febreeze on their cadaver. It helps. A lot.
 
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