Writing an intro / prepping a manuscript for publication

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When you prepare a manuscript how do you typically organize the process? As of right now I am writing my introduction. I have a rough outline of the points I need to make and know most of the citations I need to use. I typically start writing based of my outline but I'm finding that I often have to search for citations / pubs to back up certain points and stop in the middle of the writing process to read articles. I know the area fairly well that I am writing about but I am certainly not an expert, yet. I am wondering if I am doing this a*S backwards. I imagine my mentor siting down to the writing process just banging it out in one sitting but I am sure this isn't the case. Any sage advice? This is a learning experience for me for sure - writing a term paper is nothing like writing a manuscript.

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I start with the introduction and work forward, I suppose.
 
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Yes, I always look at the literature base before I start writing a section. Lately I've been looking up relevant studies and summarize the findings in an Excel sheet so they're easier to reference in the introduction.
 
I formulate a rough outline for the entire paper and then start writing with the methods and results and then do the discussion and intro. I publish a lot in psychiatric journals that tend to have shorter word limits than psychology journals, so it's more useful for me to do it this way so that I can devote the wordage to the most important sections of the paper and not do a lot of work I'll have to go back and delete or shorten later.

Ditto and not just limited to just psychiatric journals. I know a lot of people who also start with methods and results, as they really frame the backbone of your study. As for introduction, your hypotheses should be fairly well put together and can be a great start to build on, that is, finding articles that make your predictions seem feasible.
 
I also usually do methods/results first but my writing is not a linear process (i.e. I jump around a lot). A current manuscript I'm working on has an outline of an intro that has been flushed out more at seemingly random points, a partial methods section I keep rewriting, a partial results section, and random discussion points I keep adding in as I think of them. I've generally gotten great feedback on my writing so for what its worth I don't think you "need" follow a set path to produce a good paper and I'd just encourage you to find what works for you. I do like to focus on methods/results for reasons that others have shared, plus while I believe theory is important, I think we tend to overdo it in this field.

As far as literature searches go, obviously do a literature search before you start writing. That said, I've never written a manuscript where I didn't have to go back and re-search at some point. Most of the time this is for generic statements that aren't necessarily related to the particular study (e.g. I decide to include an opening paragraph with a few statements about the prevalence and consequences of the problem). My list of "similar" studies tends to be done prior to sitting down to write, but I also do heavily exploratory work so this is usually a fairly short list anyways.
 
I generally second what Ollie said - writing is a nonlinear process and it is atypical (IMO) to not need to go back to the literature while writing at times, particularly as you identify other points you'd like to make in the discussion or when you are thinking of other potential explanations/directions, depending on your results.

OP, I get the sense that you are just growing your knowledge base at this point. At that stage of training, it can feel overwhelming (and YES, it is a lot different than a term paper. I tell my students this all the time - sometimes I ask them to count the references in the papers they are citing and then come back and let me me if they still feel my minimum citation requirements are unreasonable). It does get easier to some extent as you gain mastery over the area of the literature that you are writing within, although we always need to keep reading, staying updated, and conceptualizing things. I suspect that your mentor is giving you this to help you develop a) some writing skills and b) a way to problem-solve and develop your own process.

A formula that I think can be helpful for early graduate students is to do things somewhat systematically earlier on, because you don't know what you don't know. So pick some search terms and actually do a comprehensive lit review (rather than cherry-picking the studies that are most accessible to you). Investigate all articles that pop up and rule out the irrelevant ones based on some criteria. That gives you a semi-objective sense that you are at least taking an appropriate slice of the literature and aren't leaving something out. Then read the crap out of those articles and then put together your arguments, etc. I liken this to the process that most people have to go through when they do their masters thesis, heping them to gain some expertise in an area and actually reason their way to hypotheses.

Too much? Ok, fine, find some recent review articles from reputable journals and then dig up the more prominent studies to limit your sample. But recognize you are following someone else's reasoning and work, and eventually will need to be able to absorb and conceptualize the literature yourself. This might help you get started, but you want to read everything for yourself rather than just take someone else's word for it.

Another point I'd make is that there is something to be said about at least drafting the paper in a linear way. I think some labs are just throwing data at students, which they analyze with a technique they learned in stats last week, and then the mentor says "write it up!" Ideally, you let the literature determine what questions are important, how to generate hypotheses, and ultimately which statistical tests to use. So while in practice someone further along in their training or career might be able to start anywhere that they prefer (e.g., method or results), I think there is utility for training in going from start to finish just in terms of developing your conceptual capacity. Research in its purest form is a linear process - even if our creativity and ways of generating ideas or taking feedback are not always linear, the method itself is typically one of building on past work, assessing the results, and then building some more.

So when you get to the point where you do feel you have some expertise in the area and have a great internal sense for how the literature exactly informs your hypotheses and how those drive your method and results, then i'd say do what works best for you, and there have been some great suggestions. But if you aren't feeling as confident about that, then I think it makes sense to start from the beginning and be sure that you establish those connections well. Otherwise, you may very well be writing a results section without understanding your hypotheses at all - which is technically possible but not advisable IMO.

Good luck. It gets easier (and more fun) as you develop mastery. You might be banging it out in one sitting one day - but I wouldn't view that as the goal. Ultiamtely writing ought to be a thinking process that helps you to work through the specifics of your study.
 
Just to add (I thought about this while making myself a sandwich for tomorrow) - there isn't necessarily a bad way to go about writing your first manuscript. You are going to get feedback and do revisions. Don't think of it like a term paper that you turn in and get a grade on when you are first writing it. If you leave some things out, your mentor should direct you where to find them. If your results secton has mistakes - you will learn from them.

By the time that you actually submit this to a journal (sort of like turning it in for a grade), there should have been other eyes on it and if your mentor is any good, you should have learned a few things from the process of revising it. The interesting thing about publishing is that you likely will revise it even more if it isn't rejected - so the process isn't really like getting a A-F grade, but more of a pass-fail when being given the opportunity to re-write. But you are also being evaluated on things that are likely out of your control (e.g., design of the study if you are using archival data), so be sure that your skin is thick.

Just getting past the idea that everything has to be perfect the first time around when you are drafting something is important. I don't think I picked up on this entirely until my second year of graduate school. Sure, you want to make it look the best you can and mentors appreciate good writing that doesn't require a ton of revising, but we all need to start somewhere. Just getting things on paper is a good start.
 
Thank you this was immensely helpful and normalized things for me quite a bit. You hit the nail on the head with respect to the part I am struggling with - the synthesis of a massive amount of information and then conceptualizing it into a coherent whole and logical argument. I feel lost at times and overwhelmed - good to know it can be developed over time though.

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