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Well, if someone else is the wolf, lynching them would technically be the correct move, but since we're just guessing, yes, this is the safest move. If LIS is the wolf and we don't lynch him, we go into night with only 3, and if he's not blocked, he can win overnight. If we do lynch him, he cancels, and we still go into night with 4. One of us will probably get killed (thinking it might be me, actually), and then tomorrow we make our final guess, with all options open.

If we have any solid reason to believe LIS isn't the wolf, someone should speak up now, so we can take our shot with someone else today.
 
In fact, unlynch LIS for now just because I'm in class and would prefer to look back one more time to confirm this is what I want to do before lynch closes. Will likely re-lynch, but want to buy some time.
 
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Unlynch LIS

Okay, I was worried about putting this out there because if I'm right and I can't convince both LIS and STB to switch over, WZ is going to kill me overnight.

I keep coming back to LIS tranq'ing me the night before I was sure to be lynched.

LIS said that, had he been the wolf, he would have killed me, and tranq'd himself. I originally read this thinking he meant he would blame the tranq'ing on me. But, we know that items drop out of circulation if the person who has them is killed. So the lack of the tranq gun in the night write-up, plus the 4/5 chance that someone else would receive the tranq gun the next day, would make this a hard ruse to pull off. So maybe the players left in the game assume someone else in the group tranq'd him. Since no one would come forward, they would have to assume that either he was lying, or he was tranq'd by the wolf. I'd just been killed, and in death, cleared. But that still would leave Aloha, Epi, WZ, and STB to try to **** suspicion to.

By tranqing me and killing Epi, though, he achieves something different. He loses two alternate targets, both me and Epi. He's left with Aloha, who he can probably get us to vote off the next night, but then it's down to me, who he cleared, and STB and WZ, who seem to really trust one another. Maybe he's banking on canceling last night? But he didn't...whether that was an attempt to look trustworthy, I can't be sure.

WZ raised some hairs last night when she claimed to have been just as instrumental in the MJ lynch as STB. From what she'd stated on thread, she was certain of his villagerhood until STB came forward with the tranq dates. And now we learn that STB had brought it up in convo beforehand, and WZ had ignored it?

I've also noticed a few times over the course of the game where WZ came in riiiight after the mods closed with an attempt to change her vote and save a villager. Could be real, could be staged.

STB, you said you think WZ was just as important in the MJ Lynch. Can you elaborate? Anything behind the scenes to clarify? I want to vote LIS but I'd prefer to be certain about WZ first.

Start lab at 7 so will put in my final vote beforehand.
 
Oops, typoed "shift" and it censored it for me.
 
Realized I was a target tonight anyway if WZ is the wolf, she'd want STB around to vote with her and LIS around to vote for. So what the heck.

@Stb1473, looking for reasons to feel more confident trusting WZ...got any for me?
 
Unlynch LIS

Okay, I was worried about putting this out there because if I'm right and I can't convince both LIS and STB to switch over, WZ is going to kill me overnight.

I keep coming back to LIS tranq'ing me the night before I was sure to be lynched.

LIS said that, had he been the wolf, he would have killed me, and tranq'd himself. I originally read this thinking he meant he would blame the tranq'ing on me. But, we know that items drop out of circulation if the person who has them is killed. So the lack of the tranq gun in the night write-up, plus the 4/5 chance that someone else would receive the tranq gun the next day, would make this a hard ruse to pull off. So maybe the players left in the game assume someone else in the group tranq'd him. Since no one would come forward, they would have to assume that either he was lying, or he was tranq'd by the wolf. I'd just been killed, and in death, cleared. But that still would leave Aloha, Epi, WZ, and STB to try to **** suspicion to.

By tranqing me and killing Epi, though, he achieves something different. He loses two alternate targets, both me and Epi. He's left with Aloha, who he can probably get us to vote off the next night, but then it's down to me, who he cleared, and STB and WZ, who seem to really trust one another. Maybe he's banking on canceling last night? But he didn't...whether that was an attempt to look trustworthy, I can't be sure.

WZ raised some hairs last night when she claimed to have been just as instrumental in the MJ lynch as STB. From what she'd stated on thread, she was certain of his villagerhood until STB came forward with the tranq dates. And now we learn that STB had brought it up in convo beforehand, and WZ had ignored it?

I've also noticed a few times over the course of the game where WZ came in riiiight after the mods closed with an attempt to change her vote and save a villager. Could be real, could be staged.

STB, you said you think WZ was just as important in the MJ Lynch. Can you elaborate? Anything behind the scenes to clarify? I want to vote LIS but I'd prefer to be certain about WZ first.

Start lab at 7 so will put in my final vote beforehand.
I already told you. I brought up the weirdness with my night goggle results on MJ to stb in a PM (admittedly after I said a little bit earlier that I was sure he was a villager. I had skimmed over the result earlier). I asked her what she thought because we had both been talking to him separately before we started just conversing as a group after tp was lynched. She said she was going to ask me if I thought he had been converted, but she decided not to since it seemed like I really trusted him. I responded that STL (remember, this was the day after we lynched him based on MJ's weird results on him) had asked me the same thing the day before he was lynched but I had said I didn't think so. Based on the stalking in my night goggle results and the mixed up tranq nights, I said I would have t retract what i said on the thread earier about trusting him. She just happened to post on the thread right before I did. The previous day she had brought up in our group PM that you had the tranq dates wrong, but that she didn't feel like correcting it was necessary because we both believed MJ had tranq'd kata. I wasn't actively on SDN when she said it, I saw it while catching up later, and since she said it wasn't really important I just shrugged.

And all the times I voted late or tried to switch my vote were legit. I've either been catching up on the thread and decided to switch, and posted at the same time lynch was closed (I know this happened at least once but dy's post showed up first) or I've shown up to switch ASAP without even catching up and turns out I was too late. Yesterday was legitimately upsetting because I didn't get to check my phone after my lunch break.
 
Realized I was a target tonight anyway if WZ is the wolf, she'd want STB around to vote with her and LIS around to vote for. So what the heck.
Honestly you're kind of the target for any wolf. You were blocked on a kill night. No way any villagers are voting to lynch you. The wolf isn't going to want a hard cleared villager around at endgame.
 
Ah, I see, it had read to me like STB posted about the dates and that's what prompted you to chime in. If you really did bring up the stalking and tell her you didn't trust him before she decided to post, I'm less wary.

I did notice that you defended LIS based on MJs weird results, reasoning that MJ would have just used his role name if they were both wolves and he knew it. Do you have any justification for that, now that you (I think) believe he's the wolf? I suppose it's possible LIS actually isn't a convert, and his role name is terribly sketchy. This seems less likely though, since the results themselves confirm he's a student. Seems he'd have some sort of passably vanilla title they could use.

And agreed, I know I'm almost certainly going down tonight.
 
Will also say I don't have the tranq tonight. Hoping it didn't die with Aloha and someone will be able to do some good.
 
Lynch LIS. Only way to guarantee the villagers still get a final shot at it.

Sorry for all the waffles, mods. Overthinking is my middle name.
 
Problem with this end game-play is that it is 100% predicated on "what if LIS is a wolf".

But I'm not.

Anyway. What's this about a sketchy role name for me??????? My role name isn't the LEAST bit sketchy. I haven't seen my role name posted, which is "The White Knight Student".
 
Ah, I see, it had read to me like STB posted about the dates and that's what prompted you to chime in. If you really did bring up the stalking and tell her you didn't trust him before she decided to post, I'm less wary.

I did notice that you defended LIS based on MJs weird results, reasoning that MJ would have just used his role name if they were both wolves and he knew it. Do you have any justification for that, now that you (I think) believe he's the wolf? I suppose it's possible LIS actually isn't a convert, and his role name is terribly sketchy. This seems less likely though, since the results themselves confirm he's a student. Seems he'd have some sort of passably vanilla title they could use.

And agreed, I know I'm almost certainly going down tonight.
I'm voting for LIS to give us a chance, not because I'm sure he's the wolf. I'm really, really not looking forward to tomorrow. Neither stb nor LIS make sense to me as converts, but all I can think is maybe MJ was planting that seed in case he went down. Maybe he figured that we would realize he wasn't really getting role names and if he had LIS's we would be suspicious because it wasn't mentioned on the thread. I can believe MJ having that kind of foresight. Lord knows he's screwed with me in similar ways with seer results before.


It would be absurd to me for stb to even bring up that you had gotten the tranq nights wrong if she were the convert, even though she decided not to act on it. Knowing I was in the conversation, why would she even mention it? Unless she was converted that night, after she said it(anybody remember what happened the night before MJ was lynched? I'll have to look back), it just doesn't make any sense. Nobody was questioning the nights, even Romo didn't correct you.
 
Hmm, see, now even STB sounds less certain than she first did. If she'd publically brought up the tranq dates on her own, unprompted, that would be one thing. But now we know she purposefully kept it under wraps for a while, and didn't post publically until you were expressing suspicions of your own. I can see a scenario in which she mentioned the dates in your PM to hedge her bets if MJ ended up getting lynched, and decided to throw him under the bus and gain massive villager cred once it was clear you were suspicious of him.

Should be an interesting day tomorrow.
 
Hmm, see, now even STB sounds less certain than she first did. If she'd publically brought up the tranq dates on her own, unprompted, that would be one thing. But now we know she purposefully kept it under wraps for a while, and didn't post publically until you were expressing suspicions of your own. I can see a scenario in which she mentioned the dates in your PM to hedge her bets if MJ ended up getting lynched, and decided to throw him under the bus and gain massive villager cred once it was clear you were suspicious of him.

Should be an interesting day tomorrow.
I'm just going to go cry in a corner
 
Sorry guys, I had a busy day!

I just quickly skimmed and everthing WZ said was true. I had actually noticed right away that you had messed up the Romo/MJ tq dates and thought maybe you had done it on purpose to get Romo lynched. I mentioned it in the thread right away and no one responded to me. At that point I trusted MJ (he sure played us well), and I had figured the mods may have just left out the writing flair of showing she was TQ'd. While I had hints of suspicion for MJ, I also trusted WZ a lot (and still do) and she seemed to trust MJ as well. Two days later, WZ messaged me that she overlooked a small part of her results from using the goggles on MJ. That's when I reminded her about the date-mixup. Now we had two suspicious bits of info and we thought about it longer and longer until we realized MJ had tricked us...which is when we started the lynch.
 
Everyone gathers around the elected Meeting Leader and declares that it is best that he dies. He however doesn't agree with this. "I am the White Knight! What on earth is villianous about that?!" This falls on deaf ears. Here we have a sliding doors situation. Door #1 is LIS deciding to fall on his sword, or knife in this situation.

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Door #2 is LIS using the Meeting Leader elect ability to cancel lynch. This would save everyone and the prayer would be thrown up that the night would bring clarity.

What did he choose at great inner turmoil?!

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LYNCH CANCELLED

Please get night actions in.

Your Roster is the same as before
 
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@Mad Jack can you make a game where people can only post in memes or gifs (unless it's a lynch vote)?
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It's too hard to be enjoyable. WW is already hard enough lol. Even having only one player who can only post in pictures ends up confusing as **** (@Chillbo Baggins as the ****ing plant, for instance)
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It's too hard to be enjoyable. WW is already hard enough lol. Even having only one player who can only post in pictures ends up confusing as **** (@Chillbo Baggins as the ****ing plant, for instance)
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Got it. Gif/meme rampages will just have to suffice
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I did notice that you defended LIS based on MJs weird results, reasoning that MJ would have just used his role name if they were both wolves and he knew it. Do you have any justification for that, now that you (I think) believe he's the wolf? I suppose it's possible LIS actually isn't a convert, and his role name is terribly sketchy. This seems less likely though, since the results themselves confirm he's a student. Seems he'd have some sort of passably vanilla title they could use.
So, WZ and I were talking about the results MJ has given us throughout the game from his seering ability. We're pretty sure at this point that he was able to get the description of a player if they were a student, but not the role name. However, probably to confuse us or give us less info, he began giving us the role names instead. First thing MJ did was seer the people in our group (supposedly). Here's the summary I said in WZ & I's chat.

"Sounds like STL didn't which is why he gave us the description. He knew TP's. We told him ours. Then the group block happened. There was no file on Kata because she wasn't a student. Epi had already role revealed as the activist. Romo already said he was the sorority girl. LIS we got the description of. Ashgirl is not a student (assuming shes the psych prof). Then MJ died. "

I didn't get the results until like the 3rd day or so, so I'm not sure of the order but he probably looked at STL first and gave us the role description. Then he decided to tell us role names instead. I'm not even sure if he looked into WZ or I since we role revealed before he claimed to seer us. Later on when our group started to lynch STL it was because his results were a description that sounded iffy and everyone else's results were just a role name. After STL died is when MJ claimed to have seered LIS which gave results in description form like STL. If LIS was a wolf, he could have just told us LIS's role name. At this point though, MJ probably had the foresight that we would figure out how his ability really worked if MJ was lynched and think LIS was a villager...

Sorry if this sounds like rambling, I can clarify anything if need be.
 
^This is all speculation though and I could be totally and completely wrong about it, but I think WZ agrees with the theory (actually I think she may have brought it up first).
 
The other reason I didn't think LIS was a wolf earlier too is MJ sent me a copy & paste of everything LIS told him the day they had the walkie talkies but that was over a week ago now. He could have been converted since then. They wouldn't have needed to use those as wolves. If LIS was a wolf at that time, they could have made up that convo to convince me even more that LIS was a villager.
 
I still don't understand why wolf LIS would clear Kam by using the tranq gun on her.

Because. I. Am. Not. A. Wolf.

I've pretty much given up on this game. Y'all have been so focused on me that one of you two (WZ or STB) are giggling all the way to the bank. So tonight you kill Kam and bank on lynching me to win the game.

I'm just along for the ride at this point.
 
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Because. I. Am. Not. A. Wolf.

I've pretty much given up on this game. Y'all have been so focused on me that one of you two (WZ or STB) are giggling all the way to the bank. So tonight you kill Kam and bank on lynching me to win the game.

I'm just along for the ride at this point.
Neither option makes sense. This of course comes down to the fact that I've never actually been good at the finding wolves part of being a villager.
 
I can't think of any reason why WZ would bring up the suspicious goggles results of MJ to me when I hadn't explicitly mentioned my wariness of MJ at that point and he wasn't under suspicion in the main thread either. If MJ & WZ were the last wolves, it wouldn't make sense for her to try to throw MJ under the bus at that point when there were still a fair number of villagers left.
 
Everyone eyes each other after the meeting, so unsure of whom to trust. STB and WZ think it should be okay to stick together. I mean, they had been every night so far, so nothing could possibly go wrong. Right?

Kam didn't know what to do with herself. She wanted to trust someone, but the asylum had messed with everyone's mind, or at least, what little may or may not have been there to begin with.

LIS knew he didn't trust any of the other three. He wanted out of this hell hole, and it still seemed like an impossible task to make it out alive.

The asylum seemed to come to life tonight. There was an evil hanging in the air that took turns toying with it's captives. The lights began flickering on and off, before one burst of brightness nearly blinded everyone, then, one by one, each floor of the asylum went dark.

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The darkness caused all four remaining to lose contact with each other. Everyone began to hear something different echoing through their minds...

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And so it went. It felt like hours that everyone battled their own demons. Reality slipped away. It was just before dawn, when things took a real turn. Inside one of these demented minds, the voices won...

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And with that, one of the four came to an expected end. The insane asylum thirsted for blood, and it was appeased. As the final four made their way back slowly to meet, battling their own internal demons, the throat of the ditz was expertly slit.
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No one saw who did it, and as the lights flickered back on, the internal voices quieted down. With clarity back, everyone reeled in horror at @Kam325 's lifeless body. This meeting was going to be crucial. The doors were still locked, there was still no way out.

Another meeting must take place. A conclusion must be made. The majority must agree. The end is nigh.

Lynch concludes when consensus is reached.

Your final roster:

3 Players remain

@LetItSnow , @WildZoo , and @Stb1473
 
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