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[Barkley13]

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Can you clarify the meaning of your sentence with wagon or lynch replacing the original word?

You changed your vote to mpm instead of staying on allie and I thought it was odd

 

[Animal Midwife]

Because you successfully steered the vote off her yesterday

I think ww or vv
But if ww Idk who would be the alpha here

idk, that seems like a nooby move. I'm leaning w/v at best. v/v I can see, but w/w is just asking for the whole team to be outted prematurely.

 

[Animal Midwife]

You changed your vote to mpm instead of staying on allie and I thought it was odd

Can you explain why I should have stayed on allie in light of what Paws say last night?

 

[dolphin106258]

I honestly forgot Allie was a part of that conversation. She’s not at the top of my reads regardless.

It hurts me to have you on my wolf reads list 🙁

Why not? And it’s okay I seem to always attract some amount of sketch when I’m village these days. I think last game was the first time I don’t think anyone found me sketch and I stayed alive awhile. Is your reasoning for me my apparent lack of snark? Or something else?

 

[JustPaws]

Is your reasoning for me my apparent lack of snark? Or something else?

What is the goal of this line of questioning?

 

[dolphin106258]

I’ve kinda ignored all the warning signs every time she’s been a wolf so I don’t feel totally confident but I feel like she’s playing more like she does when she’s a wolf. I also think it’s odd that she switched her vote to meese last night instead of staying on the allie vote when she usually doesn’t join bandwagons

@Animal Midwife why shouldn't I be lynching you right now?

Paws are the reasons Barks pointed out why you are also thinking AM could be a wolf?? I’m just not seeing it.

 

[Barkley13]

Can you explain why I should have stayed on allie in light of what Paws say last night?

Mpm was going down with or without your lynch so why change it when you were so sure about allie? It just feels out of character

 

[dolphin106258]

What is the goal of this line of questioning?

Uhm that’s the only reason I’ve seen presented about my sketch so I’m asking if that’s what it is. If you’re asking because it sounds like a ridiculous line of questioning that’s because I’ve found it a ridiculous line of thought. Especially with Miz also having AM in their wolf leans which bothers me.

Also is everyone always entitled to know what is going on with everyone’s questions.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Mpm was going down with or without your lynch so why change it when you were so sure about allie? It just feels out of character

Was she? Can you give the lynch progression on that in a world where I stay on allie?

 

[JustPaws]

Paws are the reasons Barks pointed out why you are also thinking AM could be a wolf?? I’m just not seeing it.

I went back to look at the sporty fauxjo to see if AM switched her vote, but she was already voting for sporty at the time so couldn't compare. I can't remember another rojo to reference so I currently don't know if that is a true statement about AM. Why wouldn't she change to someone she had been suspecting, if a rojo happened that seemed to imply the person she was voting was an alpha?

So no on that point, but my concerns are just low posting, low tallies, low motivation, etc. Her logic makes sense though and she isn't hiding, so that leans her back village again so neutral

 

[JustPaws]

Uhm that’s the only reason I’ve seen presented about my sketch so I’m asking if that’s what it is. If you’re asking because it sounds like a ridiculous line of questioning that’s because I’ve found it a ridiculous line of thought. Especially with Miz also having AM in their wolf leans which bothers me.

Also is everyone always entitled to know what is going on with everyone’s questions.

it's just weird wolf hunting to be asking why someone thinkd your sketch but isn't voting for you. Do you have reason to be pressuring miz?

 

[JustPaws]

Mpm was going down with or without your lynch so why change it when you were so sure about allie? It just feels out of character

it was allieh winning, then allie voted for you, so still allieh winning with only frosty not voting, so no

 

[dolphin106258]

it's just weird wolf hunting to be asking why someone thinkd your sketch but isn't voting for you. Do you have reason to be pressuring miz?

I’m just curious how much thought is going into their wolf reads and mixy I’m not good at reading so I can’t come up with a good line of questioning to combat that read, so I’m curious what’s going into my thought process for me being a wolf, while I asked your thoughts on AM first so I could then ask Miz. Not because I think Miz is a wolf but just because overall her reads are bothering me.

 

[Barkley13]

it was allieh winning, then allie voted for you, so still allieh winning with only frosty not voting, so no

I just looked again and it was mpm with 4 and allie with 3 votes at that point and it was more decisive after AM voted but idk I’m just saying it felt weird to me

 

[Animal Midwife]

I just looked again and it was mpm with 4 and allie with 3 votes at that point and it was more decisive after AM voted but idk I’m just saying it felt weird to me

What's the timestamp of this in relation to Paws' rojo spotting?

 

[JustPaws]

I just looked again and it was mpm with 4 and allie with 3 votes at that point and it was more decisive after AM voted but idk I’m just saying it felt weird to me

No it wasn't.

D3 Is Beef Milk a Carb? Lynch Tally

Allie (3) - AM, zigjazzy, Twoose
Ferny (1) - Mixalot
Zigjazzy (1) - Coops
Twoose (3) - Barky, dolphino, Ferny
Barky () -
AM (1) - mizzy

9/12 voting

Lynch close at 10 PM EST (~20 min remaining)

@FrostySparrow @allieh8607 @StayingPositive2017

tied 3 to 3, then i voted

Lynch Allieh
re-read d1 and interaction with fern gave me feels

Lynch barks

then i think moose rojo's

Just deleted rojo by Miranda:
If allie comes on late, like last minute, they'll kill her tomorrow or at least know she's the alpha

only now was it 4 to 3 mpm. AFTER the mistaken rojo

###
Unlynch Allie
Lynch mpm
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Unlynch allie
Lynch meese

now 5-2 because AM switches

D3 Is Beef Milk a Carb? Lynch Tally

Allie (2) - zigjazzy, Twoose
Ferny (1) - Mixalot
Zigjazzy (1) - Coops
Twoose (5) - Barky, dolphino, Ferny, Pawsy, AM
Barky (1) - Allie
AM (1) - mizzy

11/12 voting

Lynch close at 10 PM EST (~2 min remaining)

@FrostySparrow

i tell ziggy, yes she should switch:

unlynch allie
lunch mpm

D3 Is Beef Milk a Carb? Lynch Tally

Please check your votes

Allie (1) - Twoose
Ferny (1) - Mixalot
Zigjazzy (1) - Coops
Twoose (6) - Barky, dolphino, Ferny, Pawsy, AM, zigjazzy
Barky (1) - Allie
AM (1) - mizzy

11/12 voting

Lynch closed

@FrostySparrow

 

[JustPaws]

@Barkley13 i think i misunderstood, you were saying it was 4-3 right before AM voted. but how is that MPM going down with or without her? frosty could have tied it, anyone could have changed votes

 

[Barkley13]

What's the timestamp of this in relation to Paws' rojo spotting?

Timestamp of what?

 

[Barkley13]

@Barkley13 i think i misunderstood, you were saying it was 4-3 right before AM voted. but how is that MPM going down with or without her? frosty could have tied it, anyone could have changed votes

Yeah sorry I said that before looking at the whole thing again

 

[Animal Midwife]

Timestamp of what?

Of the 4-3.

Yeah sorry I said that before looking at the whole thing again

So what are your thoughts now?

 

[JustPaws]

Because you successfully steered the vote off her yesterday

I think ww or vv
But if ww Idk who would be the alpha here

No it wasn't.






then i think moose rojo's


only now was it 4 to 3 mpm. AFTER the mistaken rojo



now 5-2 because AM switches

i tell ziggy, yes she should switch:

Zigs, go back and look at the timestamps. how would Allieh and i had enough time to carry this out with planning? The post happened at 9:50p, would have been post 622. I know because I took a screenshot in case stagg would let me post it. MPM and moose never said that the text i posted was a lie, and it seemed to imply that allie was the alpha. again. we couldn't have planned that. I don't know if allie is a wolf or not but i am not, so your w/w is illogical

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Zigs, go back and look at the timestamps. how would Allieh and i had enough time to carry this out with planning? The post happened at 9:50p, would have been post 622. I know because I took a screenshot in case stagg would let me post it. MPM and moose never said that the text i posted was a lie, and it seemed to imply that allie was the alpha. again. we couldn't have planned that. I don't know if allie is a wolf or not but i am not, so your w/w is illogical

I'm trying to get through some of the earlier thread but I will go back and look when I get a chance. I also said that you didnt make the MPM post up, because she did try to explain it and didnt deny it. but that you could have wolfy latched on to it to clear another wolf. or I guess just used it to create chaos. idk it may be bad thinking but that's where I am at currently. how do you feel about allie?
I mean you and allie are either ww, wv, vw, or vv. I am trying to consider all possibilities here but I also wanna get thoughts on other people on re-read

 

[JustPaws]

I'm trying to get through some of the earlier thread but I will go back and look when I get a chance. I also said that you didnt make the MPM post up, because she did try to explain it and didnt deny it. but that you could have wolfy latched on to it to clear another wolf. or I guess just used it to create chaos. idk it may be bad thinking but that's where I am at currently. how do you feel about allie?
I mean you and allie are either ww, wv, vw, or vv. I am trying to consider all possibilities here but I also wanna get thoughts on other people on re-read

I was willing to lynch there last night, and I'm still willing to lynch there today.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I am also getting increasingly worried that I feel like we need to find a wolf today

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

At a ghost town with my dad for Father’s Day, will catch up as I have time.

 

[JustPaws]

I think I could vote Mix or Allie today, the other tomorrow, then fern, barks, Dolph, frosty?, Ziggy/AM, miz

 

[Animal Midwife]

I think I could vote Mix or Allie today, the other tomorrow, then fern, barks, Dolph, frosty?, Ziggy/AM, miz

Tomorrow is mylo for context.

 

[JustPaws]

Tomorrow is mylo for context.

I thought when we calculated there wasn't a mylo

 

[JustPaws]

Actually, the numbers look like this:
D3 - 8:3
N3 - 7:3
D4 - 6:3
N4 - 5:3
D5 - 4:3 LYLO

?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I thought when we calculated there wasn't a mylo

Oh yeah.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Thank you for these, I'd like to hear more reads on people from you when you get a chance. I've only played 1 other game, and I think I died pretty early (I don't remember what game it was).

You played the noob game, right? it's kinda interesting you forgot that and I remembered. I don't wanna bring up the whole coaching thing, but I kinda do a little also. (who knows, maybe I'm just salty I didnt suck in my first few games)

I could have sworn I saw a post from Pip early this morning saying something about having gotten a role yesterday. I don't see it anymore. Was I imagining this or did something get deleted??

Why would I ever make a post like what you're describing?

Unlynch AM
Lynch Fern

I just got called in to work on a night I didn't even know I was on call so may not be around for lynch close

Paws is also starting to ping some of her wolfy boxes

Eff it. If I was right about what I think I saw there's no way I can not vote that direction today.

When I woke up and flipped through my phone this morning (half awake) I'm pretty sure I saw a post from Pip which implied she had already received her role the night before. At this point I still hadn't even gotten my role PM so I thought it was weird and figured wolf pack would have been one of the first PMs sent out. I thought about it a few times during the day today, and was looking forward to getting on and quoting it since I was happy to have a decent reasoning behind D1 lynch for once. If she deleted that post, that is sketchy as all hell.

Lynch Pip

Wait but like you are hallucinating

Edit: and you're accusing me of deleting a post??? You had better check yourself -- I don't do stuff like that and it sounds like you're accusing me of cheating

When I flip village go the **** after Nav and BBC because I don't even care what affiliation they are -- that's the crappiest reason I have ever seen for a lynch

And @Coopah is letting it happen so she can go to hell too

Ok can other people comment on this? did anyone actually see a post similar to what BBC is claiming? because pip was extremely adamant she never posted something like that, and yet BBC creating this story does seem so far fetched to me here. do people have opinions here on who is the more likely truth teller? because there would be legit reasoning pip tried to cover up her tracks here, but also I haven't seen anyone else who supposedly saw this post.

I am pretty dead to the world after being solo doc today....did a one time read through and I'm feeling either Mixy or Paws. Since others have backed off of mixy, I will lynch Paws for now. May or may not have time to be on closer to lynch end, sorry.

here is where allie votes paws just for future reference

I don’t like how this Nav nonsense is going and reading.
This was already discussed previously in the thread. I don’t recall Pip actually encouraging anything other than clarification on this matter.

##lynch Nav##

for whatever it's worth and I haven't even gotten there yet, I think the nav Lynch was weak and lame. guess that's easier to say now tho

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I thought when we calculated there wasn't a mylo

?

it's d4, there are 10 ppl: 3w, 7v. worst case scenario:
- mislynch -> 3w, 6v by EOD
- d5: start @ 3w, 5v and it's mylo. is this wrong??

 

[dolphin106258]

I can’t reconcile all the weird feels I have around the “rojo” yesterday and I don’t think Paws was a wolf in that context, it just doesn’t add up for me. I do still think some of what BBC said was strange but that along with the Pip nonsense at the beginning also doesn’t add up to wolf for me. Maybe people are just being extra crazy this game and I’m just not able to pull the trigger. Also Allie going after Barks who I still have as a slight village read didn’t feel right.

Lynch Allie

 

[Animal Midwife]

it's d4, there are 10 ppl: 3w, 7v. worst case scenario:
- mislynch -> 3w, 6v by EOD
- d5: start @ 3w, 5v and it's mylo. is this wrong??

It's not but mylo is a misnomer for this game. I'm not sure how I jumped to 4:3 in my original post though.

 

[JustPaws]

Ok can other people comment on this? did anyone actually see a post similar to what BBC is claiming?

I didn't realize the game had started until like halfway through D1 because I missed the tag so no I didn't see this post. I also don't see anywhere in the thread that pippy posting about her pm would even make sense

 

[JustPaws]

Where the heck are Alli frosty mixy and fern?

 

[JustPaws]

Fyi Allieh (22 posts) frosty (24 posts) BBC (20 posts) Mixy (39 posts) out of 786 posts

Where the heck are Alli frosty mixy and fern?

 

[JustPaws]

Fyi Allieh (22 posts) frosty (24 posts) BBC (20 posts) Mixy (39 posts) out of 786 posts

Clearly I talk too much considering I haven't figured this out yet. Of those, I feel like fern low posts as a wolf, but don't know how much she posts as a villager. Allieh NAI, frosty is a noob, and mixy I can't remember either

 

[Animal Midwife]

Clearly I talk too much considering I haven't figured this out yet. Of those, I feel like fern low posts as a wolf, but don't know how much she posts as a villager. Allieh NAI, frosty is a noob, and mixy I can't remember either

Mixy's never been a OG wolf with the most recent being a non-posting half of a hydra in Meat.

 

[MixedAnimals77]

Then what are your reads and why did you vote for Barks?

I freaking was. Whomever the blocker is, please use it on a wolf. You're wasting your time on me.

Allie in the next post goes on to talk about not doing reads like AM is requesting, which if I remember correctly is that she doesn't tend to do them. However, not even throwing a few darts anywhere is not helpful for us trying to figure out where her thoughts might be in relation to others etc. She said she'd have more time today, but I'm skeptical.

Lynch Allie

Ok so what are the odds that paws and allie are wolves together and paws did this to save allie? I guess I just am very confused by what happened tonight... like paws could've just seen that and thought oh the obvious is that Mooses are wolf. or she could've wolfy seized on to it. we never saw the quote but did sound like MPM admitted there was an accidental post there so she obv didnt make up the whole thing. I think there has to be a wolf between allie and paws but possibly both of them. looks like allie voted paws d1 but I would have to go back and look to see if she was actually at risk on that day.

The timing of those events would have had to be preplanned I think to even be able to work as quickly as that happened. Which in the context of what happened I don't think is possible. I should go back later when I have time and relook at that situation though I feel like there is definitely someone to be gained out of that situation. Especially after mpm owned it like she did. I guess in my head a wolf would've tried to deny it which is why I need to go back and reread that situation.

I'm always willing to reevaluate because I still think the game could be in a solvable state, but I need earlier wagons from everyone, I think.

Can you explain more please, because I'm not really following. Also if Allie is lynched today and flips wolf who would you be interested in evaluating next? Same question for if she flips village.

 

[MixedAnimals77]

Fyi Allieh (22 posts) frosty (24 posts) BBC (20 posts) Mixy (39 posts) out of 786 posts

Oh I see I've been summoned. Catching up. more posts incoming shortly

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Back.

I really really don’t like how several people on my wolfy list are on the Allie lynch.

 

[Lawpy]

D4 Semi-Annual Lululemon Sale Lynch Tally

Allie (4) - AM, zigjazzy, dolphino, Mixy
Barky (1) - Frosty
Mixy (1) - mizzy

6/10 voting

Lynch close at 10 PM EST

 

[Animal Midwife]

Can you explain more please, because I'm not really following. Also if Allie is lynched today and flips wolf who would you be interested in evaluating next? Same question for if she flips village.

What would you like me to explain? If she flips wolf I'll be going back through every person who avoided giving a read on her or otherwise provided weird resistance for meese without talking about them prior.

If village, I'll see what I can do with Frosty.

Back.

I really really don’t like how several people on my wolfy list are on the Allie lynch.

Who should we be looking at instead?

 

[MixedAnimals77]

I appreciate being worried about when I can't even get a single lynch I actually want to go through over other 'paranoia'.

I'm likely taking a break after this because even for a basic game, I'm feeling the stressors of mechanical reliances and it's not really pleasant.

Why are you feeling this way? I don't think there has been much of any mechanics talk. This statement concerns me.

At this point I have a 37.5% chance of hitting a wolf by random if I am correct about miz

That's alot of ifs and relying on statistics. Since we haven't seen the extra kill yet I would assume miz is village along coupled with the collaboration of wording from twoose.

Besides myself, the only people I feel relatively ok about right now are BBC and paws, simply because of actions that really drew a lot of attention and wound up throwing a villager to lynch.

That leaves mixy, AM, and dolphin as my top wolf reads currently. Zig/SOV is up there, too. And I don’t even have any really good reasons for that, which is frustrating. They’re all minor shifts in behavior that ring alarm bells, but nothing solid.

How do you feel about frosty or barks?

 

[MixedAnimals77]

I still don't think allie/Paws makes sense as w/w tbh. Maybe if last night has occured today, I'd give it a closer look, but I don't see the motivation right now.

I mean I also don't think it makes sense, but why does the difference of a day matter?

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

MyPetMoose said that what Paws quoted was accurate from what was posted in PM, right? Including that allie alpha comment at the end?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why are you feeling this way? I don't think there has been much of any mechanics talk. This statement concerns me.

Miz is afaik mechanically clear and it's upsetting how often and how many posts get dedicated to the wifom of why she may not be cleared.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

What would you like me to explain? If she flips wolf I'll be going back through every person who avoided giving a read on her or otherwise provided weird resistance for meese without talking about them prior.

If village, I'll see what I can do with Frosty.

Who should we be looking at instead?

Why exactly would being resistant to a meese lynch be suspicious?

I desperately want a mixy lynch. Mixy, if you’re village I’m really sorry for tunneling you this deeply.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Why are you feeling this way? I don't think there has been much of any mechanics talk. This statement concerns me.

That's alot of ifs and relying on statistics. Since we haven't seen the extra kill yet I would assume miz is village along coupled with the collaboration of wording from twoose.


How do you feel about frosty or barks?

Frosty has been contributing a lot and feels pretty good to me overall. Some things barks said the other day had me feeling pretty good about barks overall, as well, but if I’m misinterpreting some things she said I’m back at square one with her.