You NEED 3.56 Science GPA & 3.7 Non Science GPA

[swifteagle43]

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2004/2004mcatgpa.htm

This is a pretty ridiculous stats for 2004. Is it me or is premed getting more competetive?

Average GPA for Science is 3.56?

Average NON-SCIENCE GPA of 3.7?

That meanst the AVERAGE person in medical school had atleast a 3.7? HOW THE HELL ARE WE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GUNNERS!

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[xxbruinxx]

i think intuitively i know the answer to this question, but what's a gunner?

thanx

 

[sga814]

Average GPA's depend A LOT on your undergraduate schools. And, because more people tend to be enrolled in state schools and or private schools with a lesser reputation than the top, the average AMCAS GPA will be fairly high. Does this mean I'm saying that it's easier to get better grades at non-top schools? Well, yes indeedy it does.

 

[sga814]

Oh, looks like I forgot my second point- the better your school is, the more "comfortable" the adcom will be with a lower-than- "average" GPA.

 

[doc05]

what's your point? a 3.7 is far from impossible, and you don't need to spend all your time in the library to achieve it.

or maybe the B and C students should become doctors?

 

[Preppy]

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2004/2004mcatgpa.htm

This is a pretty ridiculous stats for 2004. Is it me or is premed getting more competetive?

Average GPA for Science is 3.56?

Average NON-SCIENCE GPA of 3.7?

That meanst the AVERAGE person in medical school had atleast a 3.7? HOW THE HELL ARE WE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GUNNERS!

The trend does seem to be the averages increasing lately huh.

But keep in mind, an overall average GPA of 3.7 means the range is at least 3.7 +/- .3 since there are obviously people with 4.0s who got in. Do that with the 3.56 Ave Science GPA and u get a lower range of at least 3.12.
It's not impossible 🙂

Also, just under half of the applicants (~40%-45%) got into at least one med school for the past couple of years 🙂

 

[Medikit]

The trend does seem to be the averages increasing lately huh.

But keep in mind, an overall average GPA of 3.7 means the range is at least 3.7 +/- .3 since there are obviously people with 4.0s who got in. Do that with the 3.56 Ave Science GPA and u get a lower range of at least 3.12.
It's not impossible 🙂

Also, just under half of the applicants (~40%-45%) got into at least one med school for the past couple of years 🙂

3.7 +/- .3 has been pretty much what everyone has been saying.

 

[Preppy]

3.7 +/- .3 has been pretty much what everyone has been saying.

Just saying that the low end is at least a 3.4. Kinda the glass is half full appraoch.

 

[whuds]

Oh, looks like I forgot my second point- the better your school is, the more "comfortable" the adcom will be with a lower-than- "average" GPA.

You are kidding yourself if you think one school over another is perferred. It's not going to get you in if you go to Johns Hopkins undergrad and get a 3.0 because " it's harder than other schools" or " It's better than other schools" they really just look at the grades, the grades first then other factors. Thats why we keep stressing get the best gpa you can doesn't matter much from Emory or University of MD just do well in school and everything you do. 🙂

Of course it is impressive that you went to Case Western Undergrad and managed a 3.6 and that will turn some heads but a 2.9 never will.

Good Luck.

 

[45408]

This is a pretty ridiculous stats for 2004. Is it me or is premed getting more competetive?

yep

 

[wendywellesley]

or maybe the B and C students should become doctors?

OUCH!!! that's not a very nice thing to say, now is it?

 

[g3pro]

Read the MSAR to get a better idea of what "average" GPA really means. There is a very high number of high GPA applicants, but the acceptance range for lower GPAs is quite broad, as low as ~3.1. If it were a bell-curve, which it isn't, an average of 3.7 does mean +/- .3, but this isn't the case.

 

[sga814]

You are kidding yourself if you think one school over another is perferred. It's not going to get you in if you go to Johns Hopkins undergrad and get a 3.0 because " it's harder than other schools" or " It's better than other schools" they really just look at the grades, the grades first then other factors. Thats why we keep stressing get the best gpa you can doesn't matter much from Emory or University of MD just do well in school and everything you do. 🙂

Of course it is impressive that you went to Case Western Undergrad and managed a 3.6 and that will turn some heads but a 2.9 never will.

Good Luck.

Oh- but you are very mistaken. Many Adcoms have formulas that adjust applicants GPA based on undergrad. You should read "Medical School Admissions" by Zebala, Jones & Jones. All the juicy tidbits of info are eloquently pointed out in there.

 

[Sundarban1]

This is for all schools, of course with top tier schools averaged in the numbers are higher. The numbers are lower for those aiming for lower tiered schools.

 

[Mung Force]

I have a low low 3.X GPA from Wash U. No Post-Bacc crap, no Special Masters. I applied to six schools very late (October/November)- got 3 interviews and was accepted at two schools (one a Top 50 school and the other a state school).

There is absolutely no way in hell I could have gotten into ANY school if I had gone to State U or some crappy private school and had that GPA. Right now I would be Osteopath Man or sipping a smooth Pina Colada on the Beach at Grenada.

Like it or not- undergrad school does matter because people know that classes are tougher at these schools than at Football University or Palooka State. I dont think its can hurt you terribly to have NOT gone to a competitive school but, obviously, it can do nothing but help.

This B student is going to be your wife's gynecologist some day 🙂

 

[abcxyz0123]

what was your mcat

 

[tigress]

Out of curiousity, why do people seem to be implying that the only schools out there are top tier, state schools, or "crappy private schools"? Also, I'm sure some state schools have a reputation for being tough on grades as well. I don't doubt that many med schools take undergad institution into consideration, or even have formulas that will adjust GPAs from different institutions. But what makes you think it's the Ivys that get adjusted favorably? After all, Harvard is known for grade inflation, and I saw it at Penn as well. And my undergrad school, Yeshiva University, is usually ranked somewhere in the top 50, but it's definitely not considered a top school. I really doubt admissions committees know enough about the internal politics of each school like mine to know how they should adjust our GPAs. At my school, lower level science classes have inflated grades, but the higher level classes, especially chem and physics but also bio, have no grade inflation and are difficult to do well in. And how could they know that there is inflation in the psych department but not the English department? That's why I doubt schools rely too much on these special formulas of theirs. There are simply too many schools, even good schools, to know this much detail about them. Aside from the fact that even within an institution there are some professors who inflate their grades and others who don't. I had to take speech communication with a teacher who is known to give one grade above a B every few years! OTOH, there is one section of speech with a prof who mostly gives As.

I don't believe the BS about it being easier to get a high GPA at state schools. At some of the small or lesser-known private schools I could see that being the case, but most of the state schools are actually really good institutions. Especially the honors programs! And from my experience taking an undergrad class at Penn and talking to the students, I sometimes think I could have more easily gotten a better GPA at Penn than at my own undergrad. (And that's aside from the fact that at my undergrad we had to take between 18 and 22 credits each semester!)

okay, end of my rant 😳 ...I sometimes get a little long-winded around here 😛

 

[bbtbay]

You are kidding yourself if you think one school over another is perferred. It's not going to get you in if you go to Johns Hopkins undergrad and get a 3.0 because " it's harder than other schools" or " It's better than other schools" they really just look at the grades, the grades first then other factors. Thats why we keep stressing get the best gpa you can doesn't matter much from Emory or University of MD just do well in school and everything you do. 🙂

Of course it is impressive that you went to Case Western Undergrad and managed a 3.6 and that will turn some heads but a 2.9 never will.

Good Luck.

I agree with you 100%. Having a lower GPA from a higher reputable school will not be accepted as okay by most adcoms. However, the converse may be true in that if you have a super high GPA from an unknown school, some adcoms will overlook you. Where you go to school matters to a very few number of schools --- take for example the school I will be attending, NYMC. They seem to like the UC system (I am a UC Berkeley grad), with about a third of their class coming from CA.

 

[tigress]

This is for all schools, of course with top tier schools averaged in the numbers are higher. The numbers are lower for those aiming for lower tiered schools.

Yeah, this is a really good point. The average GPAs for acceptance at schools like JHU and Harvard are going to be higher than the average GPAs at the less prestigious schools.

 

[whuds]

Oh- but you are very mistaken. Many Adcoms have formulas that adjust applicants GPA based on undergrad. You should read "Medical School Admissions" by Zebala, Jones & Jones. All the juicy tidbits of info are eloquently pointed out in there.

I'm not going to argue too much just that you are mistaken, I have talked to numerous Adcom memebers and they say there is no magical list that gets one into med school over another but the app that is infront of them. Most schools will not even send out interview letters with GPAs under a certain number. That is done by a SECRETARY not some commitee that spends hours to review each app. Lets get real here! As I said 3.0 from Harvard undergrad doesn't get you in to the school of your choice. Living in the state of a state Med school will get you looked at though and many have policy that every state student who applies with min GPA and min MCAT gets an interview. but believe what you will I'm just some other Med student out there. I only want to encourage the hard working Premeds who can't afford a top school that they will get in if they work and get good grades / MCATS for the rest don't get lazy and say cause I go to XYZ it's cool I'll still get in.
Good luck

 

[sga814]

I'm not going to argue too much just that you are mistaken, I have talked to numerous Adcom memebers and they say there is no magical list that gets one into med school over another but the app that is infront of them. Most schools will not even send out interview letters with GPAs under a certain number. That is done by a SECRETARY not some commitee that spends hours to review each app. Lets get real here! As I said 3.0 from Harvard undergrad doesn't get you in to the school of your choice. Living in the state of a state Med school will get you looked at though and many have policy that every state student who applies with min GPA and min MCAT gets an interview. but believe what you will I'm just some other Med student out there. I only want to encourage the hard working Premeds who can't afford a top school that they will get in if they work and get good grades / MCATS for the rest don't get lazy and say cause I go to XYZ it's cool I'll still get in.
Good luck

Man, if I had a 3.0 from Harvard I would've gotten into at least 5 med schools (vs 2). And buddy, you gotta learn- what Adcoms tell you is usually just WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO HEAR!!!! Do you really think they'll actually tell you that they don't treat every undergrad "equally"???

 

[Medikit]

Just saying that the low end is at least a 3.4. Kinda the glass is half full appraoch.

I got in with a 3.44 🙂

 

[Ergo]

Trust me, those numbers are inaccurate. Premed has always been competitive - it just feels tougher because you are scared.

Heres the skinny on numbers:

1. To make the first cut for interviews, you need better than a 3.0 for sure, or your file goes in the trash. (With this GPA, it will still be tossed by many programs.) If youre going to have a 3.0 overall -which sucks but happens- your trend should be low grades initially then high grades the last few years. Mention this trend clearly in your personal statement. Your MCAT better be higher than 30.

2. 3.3 overall or above is a much safer number, with better than a 27 MCAT.
This will get you an interview at some state schools, which are a great place to get your MD. Trust me, you dont need to go to Cornell (or fill in a big name school here) to get into a competitive residency. You just need to get into a US med school, make a high Step 1 score and get good letters of rec.
The advice I got that when picking med schools: The best med school is the cheapest US school that accepts you in a location where you can be happy and productive for three years (your fourth year is a blow off year anywhere.)
I recently saw a post on this forum in which it was said that "I would rather graduate at the bottom of Harvard Med than at the top of a state school." That is a perfect mindset for someone who wants their mom to be able to brag about them, while not minding if they end up in family practice/primary care.

3. 3.5 overall with a 30 MCAT is a strong application.


Once you get to med school, work consistently hard, study like crazy for STEP 1, because this counts as much as the rest of your entire application. It is the (supposedly) objective evaluative tool that is used to compare you to every other US student. 1% of residency programs give preference to Ivy League grads, which means that its not worth it to surround yourself with gunners for an extra $100k in debt.

A person in the top 30% of the class at a state school who applies with a high board score to competitive residencies still gets interviews at the same places as the Harvard grads. The state school people still match at Mayo for Derm or NYU for Plastics.

http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2004/2004mcatgpa.htm

This is a pretty ridiculous stats for 2004. Is it me or is premed getting more competetive?

Average GPA for Science is 3.56?

Average NON-SCIENCE GPA of 3.7?

That meanst the AVERAGE person in medical school had atleast a 3.7? HOW THE HELL ARE WE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GUNNERS!

 

[tigress]

Man, if I had a 3.0 from Harvard I would've gotten into at least 5 med schools (vs 2). And buddy, you gotta learn- what Adcoms tell you is usually just WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO HEAR!!!! Do you really think they'll actually tell you that they don't treat every undergrad "equally"???

Nope, they treat you differently depending on your stats and ECs. They don't magically give preference to people from Ivys with lower GPAs over people from state schools with higher GPAs, though. And besides, Harvard has one of the worst reputations for grade inflation 🙄

But yeah, go with what Ergo said above. He knows what he's talking about.

 

[whuds]

Thanks Ergo you do have some wisdom I'm just tired of premeds thinking it's okay not to do well cause you are in a "top school" thats all. They should work hard and do well, Keep the momentum up through Med School. Oh well they will find out hopefully. 🙂

 

[45408]

Man, if I had a 3.0 from Harvard I would've gotten into at least 5 med schools (vs 2). And buddy, you gotta learn- what Adcoms tell you is usually just WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO HEAR!!!! Do you really think they'll actually tell you that they don't treat every undergrad "equally"???

🙄 A 3.0 is largely inexcusable, regardless of the school you went to.


Why do we have this thread at least once a week? Go check out the one from last week if you want to read all the same old arguments.

 

[xSTALLiONx]

Man, if I had a 3.0 from Harvard I would've gotten into at least 5 med schools (vs 2). And buddy, you gotta learn- what Adcoms tell you is usually just WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO HEAR!!!! Do you really think they'll actually tell you that they don't treat every undergrad "equally"???

Ditto.. By law, must be treated equally, but really.. Not necessary in this "unfair" world 🙂

 

[USAF_Dentman]

Look at the other stats..While the GPA's has gone up slightly the MCAT average is almost the same (actually a little lower) than the previous years..Maybe some students are being a little more crafty with major/class selection?

 

[xSTALLiONx]

Nope, they treat you differently depending on your stats and ECs. They don't magically give preference to people from Ivys with lower GPAs over people from state schools with higher GPAs, though. And besides, Harvard has one of the worst reputations for grade inflation 🙄

But yeah, go with what Ergo said above. He knows what he's talking about.

They would take that into consideration and adjust accordingly... You don't even need a computer for that.. Just think of what you hear when you hear 4.0 from Harvard vs. 4.0 from a Technical College (which is similar in competitiveness to some of the ****ty colleges out there).. Now looking at applications for a whole season makes you realize when there is grade inflation too...
The mind is a great pattern recognition machine..

 

[littlephiLLy]

it was published that 95-100% of applicants from my undergraduate institution (SUNY stony brook) with 3.53 and higher receive acceptance from med schools.

 

[tifxiii]

it was published that 95-100% of applicants from my undergraduate institution (SUNY stony brook) with 3.53 and higher receive acceptance from med schools.

Was that published in the MSAR? because mine won't be here until tomorrow and I can't wait for it to come in!!!!

 

[DrBowtie]

uh yeah considering 3.5 is right at the matriculation average. Also is that the first time only? Stats like those can be very deceiving aimed at luring in pre-meds.

 

[sga814]

uh yeah considering 3.5 is right at the matriculation average. Also is that the first time only? Stats like those can be very deceiving aimed at luring in pre-meds.

SO TRUE!!!! Guys- you REALLY need to read "Medical School Admissions" by Zebala, Jones & Jones- the information in there helped me through the roughest times as an applicant- AND IT'S PURE FACTS (and logic)!!!!

 

[wendywellesley]

This B student is going to be your wife's gynecologist some day 🙂

GYNE?!?! that's the best you could do?

i'm kidding. please don't take me seriously.

even if you did end up as a DO or in a carib med school you could still be a gyne or even doing up some dude's wife's boob job. please.

 

[SpeedRacer]

I have a low low 3.X GPA from Wash U. No Post-Bacc crap, no Special Masters. I applied to six schools very late (October/November)- got 3 interviews and was accepted at two schools (one a Top 50 school and the other a state school).

There is absolutely no way in hell I could have gotten into ANY school if I had gone to State U or some crappy private school and had that GPA. Right now I would be Osteopath Man or sipping a smooth Pina Colada on the Beach at Grenada.

Like it or not- undergrad school does matter because people know that classes are tougher at these schools than at Football University or Palooka State. I dont think its can hurt you terribly to have NOT gone to a competitive school but, obviously, it can do nothing but help.

This B student is going to be your wife's gynecologist some day 🙂

wow i'm so glad you said that. i went to wash u and was starting to be like, oh ****....
but i did get a post bac elsewhere at a private institution and it was easy as ****

 

[Peterock]

wow i'm so glad you said that. i went to wash u and was starting to be like, oh ****....
but i did get a post bac elsewhere at a private institution and it was easy as ****

I think everyone who goes from a top school to a regular state/private school finds this to be the case.

My post bacc was easy as hell. I also worked 25hrs/ week during both semesters.

 

[freaker]

You are kidding yourself if you think one school over another is perferred. It's not going to get you in if you go to Johns Hopkins undergrad and get a 3.0 because " it's harder than other schools" or " It's better than other schools" they really just look at the grades, the grades first then other factors.

I'm not sure why people keep making extreme examples like this. Question: don't you think a 3.5 at Hopkins (maybe a 3.45) will be accepted far more readily than a 3.6 Okalahoma or Tennessee or UCSB or BC or UCSD, for that matter?

I think the stress over which school you attend as an undergrad is many times blown out of proportion, and if I had to do it over again, I probably would have gone to State U. With that said, it does make a difference. In my interviews the challenge of my school's curriculum was mentioned and re-emphasized on numerous occasions, even when I played it down. I'm thankful this was the case, but I don't know if I would have paid so much for that privilege again.

 

[SanDiegoSOD]

I'm not sure why people keep making extreme examples like this. Question: don't you think a 3.5 at Hopkins (maybe a 3.45) will be accepted far more readily than a 3.6 Okalahoma or Tennessee or UCSB or BC or UCSD, for that matter?

A 3.45 at Hopkins vs. a 3.6 at UCSD? I'm pretty sure the 3.6 at UCSD will win out. Hopkins is a behemoth, sure, but UCSD is no little one. It ranks 6th in both total research funding and federal research funding for all national universities, all from a school only 40 years old.
Source: http://thecenter.ufl.edu/research2003.pdf

BTW - I know that your post didn't elicit this kind of response - I just wanted to toot my school's horn 😀

 

[Peterock]

A 3.45 at Hopkins vs. a 3.6 at UCSD? I'm pretty sure the 3.6 at UCSD will win out. Hopkins is a behemoth, sure, but UCSD is no little one. It ranks 6th in both total research funding and federal research funding for all national universities, all from a school only 40 years old.
Source: http://thecenter.ufl.edu/research2003.pdf

BTW - I know that your post didn't elicit this kind of response - I just wanted to toot my school's horn 😀

We're asuming they'd both get the same score on the MCAT. But I'd be willing to bet money that the average MCAT score of a person w/ a 3.45 at hopkins is greater than the 3.6 student at UCSD. I really doubt that UCSD sends 15-20% of it's ugrad population to medical school.
Isn't UCSD made up of people who couldn't get into UCLA and Berk anyway? 😀 I kid, I kid...

None of this really answers the true questino of which schools adjust for gpa based on ugrad...

Last year, I would have agreed w/ you SanDiego but now I'm not sure. Post acceptance and full ride, I know my gpa is by far the weakest part of my application - but it was obvoiusly overlooked and then some.


http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2004/mwhite.htm
total applicants / average number of students in one year's class

Johns Hopkins = 263 / 1050 = ~25%
Duke = 289 / 1525= ~19%

I can't imagine that most people go to school's where 1/4 to 1/5th of the population is getting into medical school. I know that Duke and Hopkins have anywhere from upper 80 to 100% acceptances depending on the year.

 

[albinomidget]

This thread is pretty pointless. Shouldn't it just be obvious that you should do your best while in school? At some point, you will get past whatever screen adcom's use with numbers, and then they will look at the rest of your application. Numbers aren't everything. There are many people every year who are without a med school to matriculate to with MCATs and GPAs most of you pre-meds would love to have.

I think that Ergo clearly what the dilly is. Listen to Ergo. What you will soon see is that while you are in med school, you will do most of your learning from review books such as Lippincott's Biochem (authored by UMDNJ-RWJ and Drexel profs), will read Robbin's for path like everyone does, and should you take Kaplan's webprep for Step 1, you will be taught by professors from LECOM, UMDNJ, Drexel, and Oklahoma Univ.

So, in the end you should go to whatever school makes you happy and do as well as you can there. If you don't do so hot, then are plenty of other things to do that will get you into med school. When you interview for med school, you will get a very good feel for the differences between them. Go to the school that you will do your best in. Think about it: if you're a residency director, would you want to have a resident who came from a well known school but didn't learn what was needed, or someone from another school with a clear proficiency in the material. And, if you're thinking about playing devil's advocate with me, just realize that when there are two people with equal numbers, the person with the better personality will get ranked. After all, you will have to work with the people who are matched for the next 3-7 years.

 

[whuds]

This thread is pretty pointless. Shouldn't it just be obvious that you should do your best while in school? At some point, you will get past whatever screen adcom's use with numbers, and then they will look at the rest of your application. Numbers aren't everything. There are many people every year who are without a med school to matriculate to with MCATs and GPAs most of you pre-meds would love to have.

I think that Ergo clearly what the dilly is. Listen to Ergo. What you will soon see is that while you are in med school, you will do most of your learning from review books such as Lippincott's Biochem (authored by UMDNJ-RWJ and Drexel profs), will read Robbin's for path like everyone does, and should you take Kaplan's webprep for Step 1, you will be taught by professors from LECOM, UMDNJ, Drexel, and Oklahoma Univ.

So, in the end you should go to whatever school makes you happy and do as well as you can there. If you don't do so hot, then are plenty of other things to do that will get you into med school. When you interview for med school, you will get a very good feel for the differences between them. Go to the school that you will do your best in. Think about it: if you're a residency director, would you want to have a resident who came from a well known school but didn't learn what was needed, or someone from another school with a clear proficiency in the material. And, if you're thinking about playing devil's advocate with me, just realize that when there are two people with equal numbers, the person with the better personality will get ranked. After all, you will have to work with the people who are matched for the next 3-7 years.

I don't think it's pointless, there are a lot of myths about getting into med school. Stats can be missleading. Fact is people with low MCATs and Low GPAs still get accepted into the US schools, although just very few. There's always Offshore for the ones who can't wait or do not think they can do better on MCATs or grades.http://www.mdapplicants.com/selectschool.php
I know some of these people for real. Why would they lie? But the most important point is doesn't matter where you go if you do well on GPA and MCAT you will be accepted into a med school some where.

 

[Sanctuary]

I have a low low 3.X GPA from Wash U. No Post-Bacc crap, no Special Masters. I applied to six schools very late (October/November)- got 3 interviews and was accepted at two schools (one a Top 50 school and the other a state school).

There is absolutely no way in hell I could have gotten into ANY school if I had gone to State U or some crappy private school and had that GPA. Right now I would be Osteopath Man or sipping a smooth Pina Colada on the Beach at Grenada.

Like it or not- undergrad school does matter because people know that classes are tougher at these schools than at Football University or Palooka State. I dont think its can hurt you terribly to have NOT gone to a competitive school but, obviously, it can do nothing but help.

This B student is going to be your wife's gynecologist some day 🙂

This may be true.. I haven't seen enough data suggesting one way or the other. What I do know is 2 things:

#1: I go to a state school - Portland State University in Portland, Oregon
#2: Of the applicants from Portland State University, over 70% get accepted to at least 1 medical school.

Just based on my own school's experience, it would seem that the 'state' status of the university certainly hasn't dampened the students' chances of getting accepted. Maybe I'm wrong though?

 

[Sanctuary]

Oh and BTW--

Applicants from my state (Oregon) had the highest median verbal reasoning score compared to all other states. In addition, 95% of applicants came from our public university system (We had less than 400 applicants 🙂 ).

 

[missbonnie]

Hey Guys

like others have said, this topic comes up ALL the time. While the general rule is high gpas/high mcats are definitely better, lowers ones won't keep you out. My stats are nothing special (gpa < 3.5, but good mcat scores) and still did well with admissions. If you really feel that your gpa is too "low", there are things you can do to make your whole package look better. Taking some time off to do some meaningful, working, etc are examples.

Don't get so caught up with the numbers game. GPAs/MCAT scores mean NOTHING once you are in, in fact I've found them to be poor indicators of how well you'll do in med school.

 

[Mung Force]

hey wendy

after four years at wellesley, you probably know your way around the female genitalia much better than us future gynecologists 😍


just kidding- cant help but take a cheap shot every once in awhile

 

[littlephiLLy]

Was that published in the MSAR? because mine won't be here until tomorrow and I can't wait for it to come in!!!!

that was released by the prehealth advising at my school.

 

[idkoop]

This has been discussed before. Read "3.3 from Harvard/Yale/Princeton better than a 4.0 from a state university"

Don't forget that a lot of the 3.9 3.8's 3.7s , etc. are coupled with sub 27 MCATs and a TTT undergrad.

 

[jbm44]

hey wendy

after four years at wellesley, you probably know your way around the female genitalia much better than us future gynecologists 😍


just kidding- cant help but take a cheap shot every once in awhile

Bro, let me guess you are 5 foot 4?

I can tell you're a small man just by your posts. A future OB, thats cute, you don't need to write it 8 times.

 

[Mung Force]

actually i'm about 6'3" and played lacrosse in college. I just act like Im a much smaller person. And no, i dont want to be a gynecologist- just your wife's 🙂

 

[Mung Force]

bro?

are you from "strong island" or jersey?