Ok, paranoid as I am I'm not posting until 0000 but I wanted to have the first post because I'm so vain I guess or because I know my infant son will still be keeping me up then. Anyway - see ya at 0000. Casey Ahh, now I see Iwakuni has beat me to it, but technically his is in another thread. Ok, couldn't wait - here it is (drumroll please): 1. Wake Forest 2. UNC 3. Duke 4. East Carolina 5. Palmetto-Richland 6. Penn State 7. Christiana 8. Med Col Ga 9. UVa 10. York 11. Emory 12. EVMS For me it was primarily a location thing (obviously). My wife wanted to be in a relatively urban area. Rotated at Wake and their strong points were 8 hr shifts, volume, peds, location, people. Faciltites and IT weren't so great but location is about as perfect as possible and you don't have to travel far between hospitals. UNC was almost #1 but I drove from UNC to wakemedand the drive pushed it down the list when you factor in that you're doing 12 hr shifts or 10's at Wake Med. Also somewhat higher cost for housing (my wife and I want a house). But would be absolutely happy there as #2. Duke looks good, volume a little low but otherwise what's not to like. Location slightly suboptimal. I should say something about Penn State - my (new) home program. I just didn't want to stay in PA and be a guinea pig at a new program, but I think the program will be great. out, to rock my baby to sleep and watch Star Trek the "C"