Detroit Lions RB Zach Zenner puts off medical school to pursue NFL dream

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ALLEN PARK, Mich. -- Zach Zenner knows he might eventually have to make a decision. He's not thinking about it now as he focuses on trying to make the Detroit Lions as a reserve running back, but in the future, it's possible.

Zenner wants to be a surgeon whenever he finishes up in the NFL. So he applied to med school, was accepted to and then chose to attend the Sanford School of Medicine at the University of South Dakota, ranked tied for the No. 78 primary care medical school in the nation according to US News & World Report.

Football, though, became the priority, so Zenner asked for a one-year deferred enrollment to the school, which was granted.

"I explained that I want to pursue this NFL dream and at the same time I want to attend medical school," Zenner said. "I made my aspirations clear that I wanted to do both and they were flexible and said, you know, we'll go just on a year-by-year basis."

This doesn't mean a clock isn't ticking somewhat on Zenner's initial medical school plan. Paul Bunger, the dean of medical student affairs at the Sanford School, said he couldn't remember a case at the school where they granted more than a two-year deferred enrollment.

Bunger said there is a Feb. 1, 2016, decision date for whether a student will enroll at the school in July for 2016-17. While Zenner has already been accepted to Sanford and would have automatic admission should he enroll next year, Bunger said Zenner's application has to be in the AAMC database by November 2015 for him to enroll in July 2016.

Bunger said "almost all schools" would consider a second year of delayed enrollment if there was a reason for it. He said there was no precedent he knew about at Sanford beyond two years of delayed enrollment.

The other issue is how long the school will accept Zenner's MCAT score before he might have to re-take the test. Medical schools typically will consider scores valid between two and three years from the initial test, but it is up to the individual school how long it will honor that before retesting has to occur.

"Re-taking the MCAT would be a major step," Zenner said. "But a process I would definitely consider if things in the NFL are going well."

That is a long way off. Zenner, who is in a competition to be the fourth running back with George Winn and potentially Emil Igwenagu, still has to make the Lions or be picked up on a practice squad or another roster if he does not make the initial 53-man team.

Zenner heard the story of Kansas City offensive lineman Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, who has been balancing medical school and an NFL career. Zenner said he would be open to that possibility eventually once he had his NFL career in order.

That could be tricky at Sanford, where Bunger said he didn't know how someone could manage both.

"I can't imagine how anybody could do that," Bunger said. "I think NFL players, even though they have so-called offseason, they are busy. They have responsibilities and all sorts of things. It provides a very unique opportunity and that's what we look at as a policy for our delayed matriculation.

"Is it something that provides a unique opportunity for the student to further develop in an area that would give them some unique insight into people that they are going to care for some day."

Zenner said he doesn't know what type of surgery he would like to pursue, but that it is definitely something he plans on doing in the future. He doesn't have a timeline for when things will happen, mostly because he is focused on football now.

"You're working hard to try and make the NFL and that's one of my goals," Zenner said. "You know, despite there being a backup plan, I'm still working my butt off trying to make this team. There's not a sense of, well, I'll be OK afterwards.

"I'm working hard to make this roster. I know that is there, but I want to do this. And then, do that."


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Just wow! Great spot to be in :)

Not sure how the Chiefs player is in med school and the NFL, but Alan Page was doing Law School (albeit not med school) and the NFL back in the '70's, so anything is possible.
 
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What's the point of this thread, exactly?

There are former NFL players in medical school. This is not something new, eg. Myron Rolle, Timi Wusu etc.

This article is also written by an understandably unknowledgeable ESPN writer; why would someone already accepted, and deferring admission be subject to the 3-year MCAT policy?

The Chiefs player is at a Canadian med school, no on knows what type of crazy stuff goes on up there; I'd be very surprised if any US school would even consider letting someone "do medicine" on a part time basis.

As an avid football fan unfortunately I don't see this kid needing to put off medical school for too much longer, because his chances of ever making a 53 man roster are remote at best.
 
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What's the point of this thread, exactly?

There are former NFL players in medical school. This is not something new, eg. Myron Rolle, Timi Wusu etc.

As an avid football fan unfortunately I don't see this kid needing to put off medical school for too much longer, because his chances of ever making a 53 man roster are remote at best.

My view exactly, he has no chance at realizing his NFL dream.
 
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What's the point of this thread, exactly?

There are former NFL players in medical school. This is not something new, eg. Myron Rolle, Timi Wusu etc.

This article is also written by an understandably unknowledgeable ESPN writer; why would someone already accepted, and deferring admission be subject to the 3-year MCAT policy?

As an avid football fan unfortunately I don't see this kid needing to put off medical school for too much longer, because his chances of ever making a 53 man roster are remote at best.

I actually am in a 30 team fantasy league(yes 30) and he still wasn't drafted. For reference Bernard Pierce, who is a 4th string RB on the freaking Jacksonville Jaguars, got drafted in round 9 of 18 of this league.

This is nothing more than a guy trying to live out his dream to play in the NFL as long as possible before realizing that a) he's not good enough b) that life in the NFL sucks if you aren't good. Nobody wants to spend more than 1-2 years bouncing around on practice squads just to play special teams, regardless of how much they think they might love the idea at first .

He'll follow the path of Myron Rolle soon enough and be in med school.
 
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He'll follow the path of Myron Rolle soon enough and be in med school.
Except the hype/potential on Rolle was about 1000x higher. Dude was projected as a mid-first rounder, and from a major Power 5 contender before taking up the Rhodes. This kid wasn't even drafted, and played at a HS-esque level of competition. Not taking anything away from his accomplishments, but this is probably just gonna be a gap year for him.

Props on the deep fantasy league though, my buddies keep complaining the talent gets watered down for our 16 team league! :D Is it a keeper/dynasty setup?
 
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Except the hype/potential on Rolle was about 1000x higher. Dude was projected as a mid-first rounder, and from a major Power 5 contender before taking up the Rhodes. This kid wasn't even drafted, and played at a HS-esque level of competition. Not taking anything away from his accomplishments, but this is probably just gonna be a gap year for him.

Props on the deep fantasy league though, my buddies keep complaining the talent gets watered down for our 16 team league! :D Is it a keeper/dynasty setup?

Yeah that was pretty much my point. His future after this year sure as hell won't be in the NFL and I really doubt this dudes dreams of playing football are crazy enough he'd consider dropping medicine all together to give it ago in the CFL or something(which idk if he would still even be good enough for). Still hell of a story.

It's just a dynasty. We can't possibly do keepers in a 30 team league(people would have to draft guys like bryce brown in the 2nd round then). We make the drafts after the first 5 rounds so you have to pick someone within 15 seconds to speed it up. We Just do a snake every year based off how everybody finished last year. 12 make the playoffs. Top 6 get money back at worst. Waiver wire is always interesting seeing some of the names taken off there(people will actually wake up early just to put in a claim for someone like Terrell Pryor). People also valuing D/ST's to the point they would trade starters for them(the difference between a top D/ST and a poor one is big in a league like this) is also rather interesting. Somebody actually traded Alfred Morris for the Bills D/ST last year and it was a reasonable trade.
 
It's just a dynasty. We can't possibly do keepers in a 30 team league(people would have to draft guys like bryce brown in the 2nd round then). We make the drafts after the first 5 rounds so you have to pick someone within 15 seconds to speed it up. We Just do a snake every year based off how everybody finished last year. 12 make the playoffs. Top 6 get money back at worst. Waiver wire is always interesting seeing some of the names taken off there(people will actually wake up early just to put in a claim for someone like Terrell Pryor). People also valuing D/ST's to the point they would trade starters for them(the difference between a top D/ST and a poor one is big in a league like this) is also rather interesting. Somebody actually traded Alfred Morris for the 49ers D/ST 2 years ago and it was a reasonable trade.
Lol, tbh that sounds like it's interesting simply based on ridiculousness. Now I understand why even the most obscure players are 0.1% owned :p
 
Steve Young always said his brother made a better career choice. His brother is an ER doc who put stitches in my hand when i lacerated it.
 
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Steve Young always said his brother made a better career choice. His brother is an ER doc who put stitches in my hand when i lacerated it.
Steve Young would know, especially since he sustained quite a few concussions during his career...Honestly, I don't think football is a good career choice for anyone.
 
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Steve Young would know, especially since he sustained quite a few concussions during his career...Honestly, I don't think football is a good career choice for anyone.
Quarterbacks.

If they get hit, the entire defense gets fined by Goodell and Co.
 
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Steve Young always said his brother made a better career choice. His brother is an ER doc who put stitches in my hand when i lacerated it.

I mean its incredibly easy to say this after all the fame and money Steve Young accumulated.....oh in hindsight I made the wrong choice but I say this still getting to keep all the money and fame I had. Take away all that money, fame, popularity and the life time of experiences from him and lets see if he says "no I don't want any of that, I would rather have not played football at all and not have any of the glory that comes with it". Color me rather skeptical on that ever happening.

That's not to downplay the severity of his concussions, it just shows its rather convenient to say "I wish I had never done any of this" while still getting to accumulate all the fame and money he did and all the memories, connections and life stories he did doing it.
 
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I mean its incredibly easy to say this after all the fame and money Steve Young accumulated.....oh in hindsight I made the wrong choice but I say this still getting to keep all the money and fame I had. Take away all that money, fame, popularity and the life time of experiences from him and lets see if he says "no I don't want any of that, I would rather have not played football at all and not have any of the glory that comes with it". Color me rather skeptical on that ever happening.

That's not to downplay the severity of his concussions, it just shows its rather convenient to say "I wish I had never done any of this" while still getting to accumulate all the fame and money he did and all the memories, connections and life stories he did doing it.
Saying someone else made a "better career choice" doesn't mean you have to wish that you were in that career.

One of my friends is an aerospace engineer, got a job straight out of undergrad and is doing really cool stuff already, at the ripe young age of 21. Gets pretty solid pay, nice hours, time to hit the bars frequently. I think that's really darn great, and probably a better choice than slumming it out as a student/resident for another decade.

Would I switch places? Probably not.
 
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Alan Page was doing Law School (albeit not med school) and the NFL back in the '70's, so anything is possible.

And he is a phenomenal man and Jurist. Met him at the USThomas School of Law; loved him purple, think very highly of him in black robes.
 
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Quarterbacks.

If they get hit, the entire defense gets fined by Goodell and Co.
Eh, I'm not so sure about that. A QB who's feeling a bit too "pocket happy" (or one who's playing with a bad O-line) can easily get blind-sided multiple times in a game... An accumulation of these types of hits can pose a risk to the QB's neurological health.
I mean its incredibly easy to say this after all the fame and money Steve Young accumulated.....oh in hindsight I made the wrong choice but I say this still getting to keep all the money and fame I had. Take away all that money, fame, popularity and the life time of experiences from him and lets see if he says "no I don't want any of that, I would rather have not played football at all and not have any of the glory that comes with it". Color me rather skeptical on that ever happening.

That's not to downplay the severity of his concussions, it just shows its rather convenient to say "I wish I had never done any of this" while still getting to accumulate all the fame and money he did and all the memories, connections and life stories he did doing it.
Have you read League of Denial? IIRC, Steve Young feared for his long-term health after suffering from those concussions. I think chronic headaches, memory gaps, and witnessing the effects of CTE on your peers is enough to compel a star QB to make such a statement. :shrug:
 
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Have you read League of Denial? IIRC, Steve Young feared for his long-term health after suffering from those concussions. I think chronic headaches, memory gaps, and witnessing the effects of CTE on your peers is enough to compel a star QB to make such a statement. :shrug:
Building off of this the concussion issue is definitely being downplayed to us fans by the NFL and assorted media outlets. Look at the recent trend of early retirements, spearheaded by Chris Borland. The dude was probably the best rookie LB in the league (maybe second to CJ Mosley) and walked away from millions to preserve his neurological well-being. He estimated that, at age 24, he's already suffered more than 30 concussions.

As an athlete in college I definitely looked at the pros with a "promised land" view but if I had been a football player (which I was not), I'd definitely harbor some serious concerns going forward even if it brought me a good living.
 
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@GrapesofRath, apparently I did not recall correctly. I just re-read the bit about Steve Young in League of Denial and he was actually pushed to retire by his doctors, coaches, and others in his circle. Even the press and Bay Area football fans expressed a concern for his long-term health. He probably would have continued playing if he didn't have that type of support system...
 
Building off of this the concussion issue is definitely being downplayed to us fans by the NFL and assorted media outlets. Look at the recent trend of early retirements, spearheaded by Chris Borland. The dude was probably the best rookie LB in the league (maybe second to CJ Mosley) and walked away from millions to preserve his neurological well-being. He estimated that, at age 24, he's already suffered more than 30 concussions.

As an athlete in college I definitely looked at the pros with a "promised land" view but if I had been a football player (which I was not), I'd definitely harbor some serious concerns going forward even if it brought me a good living.
According to Ann McKee, a prominent neuropathologist, "the biggest problem isn’t the concussions, actually, ... It’s the sub-concussive hits that mount up every single time these guys line up.”
http://grantland.com/features/neuro...-accused-killing-football-be-sport-only-hope/
http://www.bu.edu/cte/files/2012/08/Baugh_Chronic-Traumatic-Encephalopathy_2012.pdf
 
Building off of this the concussion issue is definitely being downplayed to us fans by the NFL and assorted media outlets. Look at the recent trend of early retirements, spearheaded by Chris Borland. The dude was probably the best rookie LB in the league (maybe second to CJ Mosley) and walked away from millions to preserve his neurological well-being. He estimated that, at age 24, he's already suffered more than 30 concussions.

As an athlete in college I definitely looked at the pros with a "promised land" view but if I had been a football player (which I was not), I'd definitely harbor some serious concerns going forward even if it brought me a good living.
What sport did you play in college with the chance to go pro if you dont mind me asking?
 
He'd be an idiot to not try the NFL. Even as an undrafted free agent he'd make more than a sub specialist. If he's talented he'll make millions each year and retire at 35 to live the rest of his life doing whatever he wants. If he gets cut then apply again next year, it's really a win-win for Zach.
 
What sport did you play in college with the chance to go pro if you dont mind me asking?
Baseball. Was always an outside shot, I got some looks coming out of HS and early on in college but kept getting bothered by nagging injuries that eventually kept potential suitors away :(

Considered signing an undrafted MiLB deal after graduating but woke up and decided to move on with my adult life.

He'd be an idiot to not try the NFL. Even as an undrafted free agent he'd make more than a sub specialist.
I agree that he should try the NFL but this is not true.
 
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Im pretty sure the rookie minimum is at 400-500k a year right now.....I think it is true
The vast majority of successful undrafted rookies who "make it" aren't ever going to sniff a 53 man roster. They'd be on the practice squad, where checks are on a week-by-week basis, usually amounting to less than $6500 per week of the NFL season.

Assuming a player is on the squad for the entire year (far from a guarantee), that's $6500 x 17 = $110500. Some reserves make more yes, but it will not be significantly different from this number.

For someone who actually makes the active roster of an NFL team (a virtual impossibility for undrafted rooks), the minimum salary is $420k for the year.

While yes this is a great salary, many if not most surgical subspecialists will make more. Plus way more job security in medicine than year-by-year contracts for fringe players.


Edit: Gonna pull out the ol' SDN adage "can't do it for the money" now too. While I generally ignore this and think it's important to consider compensation, being a doc definitely has many draws beyond the lifestyle. Football...not so much.
 
Breaking News Matthew Berry thinks Zach Zenner is a good sleeper candidate. Forget all I just said.
 
Just saw him during today's preseason game..deceptive game speed...built well...could be decent RB3. So far he's 3rushes, 51yd, long 41yd..even though he went untouched..still cool to see a fellow pre-med on TV.

Oh..he's on the internet too.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/20150...uars#menu=drivechart&tab=videos&pbp=gc-pbp-cd

Not pre-med when you already have a medical school acceptance letter.

I do think it is possible he might make the team which honestly is not good for his medical school aspirations now or at any time later on.
 
Not pre-med when you already have a medical school acceptance letter.

I do think it is possible he might make the team which honestly is not good for his medical school aspirations now or at any time later on.
One year of professional football can cover 4 years of med school expenses. I think that it worked that way for Rich Diana who played for the Dolphins in 1982-83. He graduated from Yale Med in 1987 and went on to a career in orthopedics. I heard decades ago that what he was paid as a player on the losing team in the Super Bowl was enough to pay for 4 years of med school tuition. Sadly, Super Bowl bonuses have not keep up with med school tuition hikes but a player can still make enough in one year on a roster to cover cost of attendance for 4 yrs.
 
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Not pre-med when you already have a medical school acceptance letter.

I do think it is possible he might make the team which honestly is not good for his medical school aspirations now or at any time later on.

Oops, slip up. But hey, if he makes the team, he could really carve out a role once Bell inevitably gets re-injured. As long as he can pass block, he will be out there on occasion.
 
One year of professional football can cover 4 years of med school expenses. I think that it worked that way for Rich Diana who played for the Dolphins in 1982-83. He graduated from Yale Med in 1987 and went on to a career in orthopedics. I heard decades ago that what he was paid as a player on the losing team in the Super Bowl was enough to pay for 4 years of med school tuition. Sadly, Super Bowl bonuses have not keep up with med school tuition hikes but a player can still make enough in one year on a roster to cover cost of attendance for 4 yrs.
One year of professional football can cover 4 years of med school expenses. I think that it worked that way for Rich Diana who played for the Dolphins in 1982-83. He graduated from Yale Med in 1987 and went on to a career in orthopedics. I heard decades ago that what he was paid as a player on the losing team in the Super Bowl was enough to pay for 4 years of med school tuition. Sadly, Super Bowl bonuses have not keep up with med school tuition hikes but a player can still make enough in one year on a roster to cover cost of attendance for 4 yrs.

Great insight. Really cool detailed stuff thanks for sharing. There are multiple football players who have gone down this path beyond the most famous one Myron Rolle(who technically never played a down in the NFL).

What I was referring to is I think the problem here will be willing to leave the NFL after one year if he makes the team unless it goes poorly from there. That's what I'm kind of skeptical about. If he actually goes on and plays this year(and it might be possible reviews of him so far have been good and his team is only an injury away at his position from him having a viable role) and has some role in actual NFL games this year I'm really not sure if he is going to be willing to call it quits after that. It's great to say you plan to do that; but actually walking away from a game you love so much that pays well after one year is hard. It's really hard for a professional athlete who often believes in themselves more than others to just walk away like that. He could easily talk himself into having a solid career where he plays a number of years as a role player or perhaps one day even as a starter if he has a rookie season where he makes some kind of contribution. We often aren't the best judges of what is most realistic for us, and we've seen this true with professional athletes many times.

The average career I believe is 4.5 years .Even if he is slightly below average and ends up at 3 that will be a problem for his medical school aspirations as the dean himself said their school basically never grants deferrals of more than 2 years.
 
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Great insight. Really cool detailed stuff thanks for sharing. There are multiple football players who have gone down this path beyond the most famous one Myron Rolle(who technically never played a down in the NFL).

What I was referring to is I think the problem here will be willing to leave the NFL after one year if he makes the team unless it goes poorly from there. That's what I'm kind of skeptical about. If he actually goes on and plays this year(and it might be possible reviews of him so far have been good and his team is only an injury away at his position from him having a viable role) and has some role in actual NFL games this year I'm really not sure if he is going to be willing to call it quits after that. It's great to say you plan to do that; but actually walking away from a game you love so much that pays well after one year is hard. It's really hard for a professional athlete who often believes in themselves more than others to just walk away like that. He could easily talk himself into having a solid career where he plays a number of years as a role player or perhaps one day even as a starter if he has a rookie season where he makes some kind of contribution. We often aren't the best judges of what is most realistic for us, and we've seen this true with professional athletes many times.

The average career I believe is 4.5 years .Even if he is slightly below average and ends up at 3 that will be a problem for his medical school aspirations as the dean himself said their school basically never grants deferrals of more than 2 years.

As you say, careers are, on average, short and one has to figure out what to do with the rest of one's life. I recall a professional/Olympic medalist figure skater who skated long enough to bank a set amount of money which set her up to pursue a career in medicine. You've got to make it a means to an end rather than an end in itself, I think, if you really have a passion for the practice of medicine. If the passion isn't there, you might as well go to law school or open a car dealership or whatever after your final season.
 
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Zach Zenner - 8 carries, 85 yards, 1 TD last night vs the Jags. The fans love him. I had never heard of the guy until I saw this thread. After watching last night's highlights, I can see him getting signed by somebody. I mean, Toby Gerhart got signed...:shrug:
 
Considering all that has happened the past few weeks I would be very surprised if Zenner doesn't make the Lions roster. And it's very possible he has a real role this year if either Joique Bell or Ameer Abdullah get banged up at any point this year.
 
Zach Zenner - 8 carries, 85 yards, 1 TD last night vs the Jags. The fans love him. I had never heard of the guy until I saw this thread. After watching last night's highlights, I can see him getting signed by somebody. I mean, Toby Gerhart got signed...:shrug:

He's unfortunately destined to spend the year on the practice squad of Detroit or some other team. A good preseason outing against backups usually translates to this -- his numbers aren't that uncommon during second preseason games against second and third stringers. And that likely won't be enough income to pay for all four years of med school. If he improves by next year he may have a real decision to make.
 
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He's unfortunately destined to spend the year on the practice squad of Detroit or some other team. A good preseason outing against backups usually translates to this -- his numbers aren't that uncommon during second preseason games against second and third stringers. And that likely won't be enough income to pay for all four years of med school. If he improves by next year he may have a real decision to make.

I don't think he'll be on the practice squad. I think he'll be their 3rd string back which means dressing every week and if there is an injury(and Joique Bell is injury prone) he becomes an active part of the team every week as the backup RB(and their other main RB Ameer Abdullah is a rookie also so I don't exactly see him taking all the carries if Bell is down). I am beginning to have a harder time seeing how he will call it quits after just one year.
 
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I don't think he'll be on the practice squad. I think he'll be their 3rd string back which means dressing every week and if there is an injury(and Joique Bell is injury prone) he becomes an active part of the team every week as the backup RB(and their other main RB Ameer Abdullah is a rookie also so I don't exactly see him taking all the carries if Bell is down). I am beginning to have a harder time seeing how he will call it quits after just one year.

Practice squads are full of preseason standout RBs. A guy on the PS can be called up if a starter goes down so you don't need to keep him on the active roster just because someone is supposedly injury prone.
 
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Practice squads are full of preseason standout RBs. A guy on the PS can be called up if a starter goes down so you don't need to keep him on the active roster just because someone is supposedly injury prone.

Most teams keep 3 starting RBs on their active roster that they dress for games(in fact I don't know any team that won't given how frequently RBs get hurt and no team wants to be in a place where they only have 1 RB to play every down if the backup gets hurt). I think Zenner will end up the 3rd string RB. Also keep in mind Zenner plays special teams which makes it even more likely he'll dress as a 3rd string RB.
 
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Most teams keep 3 starting RBs on their active roster that they dress for games(in fact I don't know any team that won't given how frequently RBs get hurt and no team wants to be in a place where they only have 1 RB to play every down if the backup gets hurt). I think Zenner will end up the 3rd string RB. Also keep in mind Zenner plays special teams which makes it even more likely he'll dress as a 3rd string RB.

The article says he's in competition to be the 4th RB. I agree with you that most teams won't keep more than 3.
 
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The article says he's in competition to be the 4th RB. I agree with you that most teams won't keep more than 3.

From what I've read he could definitely end up 3rd string(Lions don't see to be as high on Theo Riddick anymore). We'll just have to see
 
But is he worth it as a late round sleeper? My last pick is going to be Jarryd Hayne...
 
But is he worth it as a late round sleeper? My last pick is going to be Jarryd Hayne...

Matthew Berry likes him and mentioned him in his article this week as a sleeper candidate. In my 30 team league I have he'll get swallowed up by like round 7 or 8. At this point like I said its pretty possible he ends up over Theo Riddick.
 
In this thread: all the closet football bros get to flex their muscles. Sweet
 
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But is he worth it as a late round sleeper? My last pick is going to be Jarryd Hayne...
Unless you're in some ridiculously hilarious league format like @GrapesofRath , a "late round sleeper" should be a backup (yep, 2nd string....) at worst. Definitely not someone who probably won't make the roster, and has maybe a 1 in 200 shot of ever getting regular season game time.


Drafted today in a league that's been going on for 6 years now, my backs are, in order: Jamaal Charles RB1, Marshawn Lynch RB2, Joseph Randle Flex, and Todd Gurley on the bench. Traditional ESPN setup.

I consider Randle and Gurley "sleepers," with solid 1,000/10+ potential for both, especially Randle starting behind that Dallas line. Gurley is getting the majority of first team carries in St. Louis.

No third string scrubs or practice squad fillers in fantasy.
 
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Considering all that has happened the past few weeks I would be very surprised if Zenner doesn't make the Lions roster. And it's very possible he has a real role this year if either Joique Bell or Ameer Abdullah get banged up at any point this year.
There is a high probability of this Abdullah is a small guy and joique bell has been injury prone. I'm rooting for this guy for sure. I think there is at least one game this year where he is the lead back or at very least splits carries with riddick
 
Unless you're in some ridiculously hilarious league format like @GrapesofRath , a "late round sleeper" should be a backup (yep, 2nd string....) at worst. Definitely not someone who probably won't make the roster, and has maybe a 1 in 200 shot of ever getting regular season game time.


Drafted today in a league that's been going on for 6 years now, my backs are, in order: Jamaal Charles RB1, Marshawn Lynch RB2, Joseph Randle Flex, and Todd Gurley on the bench. Traditional ESPN setup.

I consider Randle and Gurley "sleepers," with solid 1,000/10+ potential for both, especially Randle starting behind that Dallas line. Gurley is getting the majority of first team carries in St. Louis.

No third string scrubs or practice squad fillers in fantasy.

I'd be willing to bet a fair amount that Zenner makes the Lions roster
 
There is a high probability of this Abdullah is a small guy and joique bell has been injury prone. I'm rooting for this guy for sure. I think there is at least one game this year where he is the lead back or at very least splits carries with riddick
We're talking about an undrafted free agent with zero NFL experience here... do you realize how astronomical the odds of this are?

I'd be willing to bet a fair amount that Zenner makes the Lions roster
I'm just saying if you're filling out your roster with guys like Zenner chances are you won't be winning very many fantasy matchups.

As much as I like Tim Tebow he won't be starting QB1 for me...
 
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We're talking about an undrafted free agent with zero NFL experience here... do you realize how astronomical the odds of this are?


I'm just saying if you're filling out your roster with guys like Zenner chances are you won't be winning very many fantasy matchups.

As much as I like Tim Tebow he won't be starting QB1 for me...

Well I personally might be lol
 
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Since I've started focusing on preseason, I've noticed that there's actually an inverse correlation between people who get personal interest pieces like this written about them and people who actually make the active roster. Every year for every team the fans get excited about someone who has a very good preseason. They frequently end up tucked away on the practice squad. Maybe they get called up for an injury. Maybe they get poached. RBs not household names are kind of regarded as a dime a dozen in the NFL. after Tuesdays cuts the streets will be full of guys with actual NFL experience. Rarely do these undrafted unproven guys displace someone a team has made a bigger investment in. it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
 
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