I don't disagree with your statement. I never said "it was in the test". In fact, I said the opposite. In order to pass the test, you've got to have the training. Now, taking the FP board exam by itself and passing it doesn't mean you could have passed step 1,2/cs,3, etc. But, if you happened to pass steps 1,2,3, completed a residency and passed your board cert, then I'd be confident you've had the training based on those accomplishments alone. I wouldn't need to know the details of "how" you were trained so long as you had made it over ALL of the required hurdles.
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Dr. Stead's PA to MD Bridging proposal.
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I don't disagree with your statement. I never said "it was in the test". In fact, I said the opposite. In order to pass the test, you've got to have the training. Now, taking the FP board exam by itself and passing it doesn't mean you could have passed step 1,2/cs,3, etc. But, if you happened to pass steps 1,2,3, completed a residency and passed your board cert, then I'd be confident you've had the training based on those accomplishments alone. I wouldn't need to know the details of "how" you were trained so long as you had made it over ALL of the required hurdles.
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I agree with most of what you are saying.
I would certainly fail step 1. not enough basic sciences in my head, plain and simple.
I would most likely pass step 2 and step 2 clinical.
I would almost certainly pass step 3 and an fp board exam.
don't know if you noticed but there is now a PA to DO bridge program that meets all your requirements. see current thread in this forum.
I would certainly fail step 1. not enough basic sciences in my head, plain and simple.
I would most likely pass step 2 and step 2 clinical.
I would almost certainly pass step 3 and an fp board exam.
don't know if you noticed but there is now a PA to DO bridge program that meets all your requirements. see current thread in this forum.
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I took the PA boards, USMLE and COMLEX exams.
Not only did I score higher on step 2 than my class (2nd highest in class) I scored higher on step 2 than I did my PA recert exam.
Step 3 is a joke. ANY compotent PA could pass step 3 and I am vertually certain ALL of the PAs in my circles would pass stap 2
seriously, step 3 USMLE and COMLEX are like takin practice exams
Like I said, I have taken all three sets of tests and have a unique perspective. For whatever thats worth
E--I would bet my chopper you would crush both step 2 and 3
Not only did I score higher on step 2 than my class (2nd highest in class) I scored higher on step 2 than I did my PA recert exam.
Step 3 is a joke. ANY compotent PA could pass step 3 and I am vertually certain ALL of the PAs in my circles would pass stap 2
seriously, step 3 USMLE and COMLEX are like takin practice exams
Like I said, I have taken all three sets of tests and have a unique perspective. For whatever thats worth
E--I would bet my chopper you would crush both step 2 and 3
I don't think anybody would find that too surprising based on what I've read.I took the PA boards, USMLE and COMLEX exams.
Not only did I score higher on step 2 than my class (2nd highest in class) I scored higher on step 2 than I did my PA recert exam.
Step 3 is a joke. ANY compotent PA could pass step 3 and I am vertually certain ALL of the PAs in my circles would pass stap 2
seriously, step 3 USMLE and COMLEX are like takin practice exams
Like I said, I have taken all three sets of tests and have a unique perspective. For whatever thats worth
E--I would bet my chopper you would crush both step 2 and 3
How well would you have done on Step 1? Do you feel your competency increased after your residency? Do you feel the high admissions standards for medical school produce more competent healthcare providers?
Looks like a pretty good deal to me. I'd even say that residencies should remove take some time off, like intern year.I agree with most of what you are saying.
I would certainly fail step 1. not enough basic sciences in my head, plain and simple.
I would most likely pass step 2 and step 2 clinical.
I would almost certainly pass step 3 and an fp board exam.
don't know if you noticed but there is now a PA to DO bridge program that meets all your requirements. see current thread in this forum.
IMHO, physicians should have a certain level of "competence" related to a minimum level of inherent ability, and silly stuff like the pre-reqs, mcat, step 1, etc play an important role in determining that. So long as you can clear the same hurdles, I don't care if a PA gets some of their clinical requirements tossed. That seems more than fair to me.
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Excellent questions man
There is absolutely NO possible way I would have passed either usmle or comlex step 1 without going to med school. zip, zero nada no chance.
After I graduated from med school--I still essentially felt like a really well trained PA. Seriously--its in the residency. It wasnt untill after you are left in the ICU/CCU by yourself for months at a time!!
Ive said this before. med school produces acedemics and residency produces physicians/clinician.
Thats one point about PA school. They have a goal of tryin to produce a clinician (for better or worse) upon graduation bacause PA residency is optional and most dont.
Excellent questions man
There is absolutely NO possible way I would have passed either usmle or comlex step 1 without going to med school. zip, zero nada no chance.
After I graduated from med school--I still essentially felt like a really well trained PA. Seriously--its in the residency. It wasnt untill after you are left in the ICU/CCU by yourself for months at a time!!
Ive said this before. med school produces acedemics and residency produces physicians/clinician.
Thats one point about PA school. They have a goal of tryin to produce a clinician (for better or worse) upon graduation bacause PA residency is optional and most dont.
Thanks for the response. That's sort of what I was expecting, but I'm glad to have someone with experience let me know the reality of the situation.tncelm
Excellent questions man
There is absolutely NO possible way I would have passed either usmle or comlex step 1 without going to med school. zip, zero nada no chance.
After I graduated from med school--I still essentially felt like a really well trained PA. Seriously--its in the residency. It wasnt untill after you are left in the ICU/CCU by yourself for months at a time!!
Ive said this before. med school produces acedemics and residency produces physicians/clinician.
Thats one point about PA school. They have a goal of tryin to produce a clinician (for better or worse) upon graduation bacause PA residency is optional and most dont.
