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Not really sure what you're talking about?
Anyway they just rolled out this keyboard shortcuts thing and it is pure sex. I'm in love. I've been asking for this since they started GT. Somehow they tinkered with the back end too, I've been getting instant reloads on my questions. Maybe I have a shot at mastering the bank before July after all...
Thanks, that seems to have solved it.Ah, ok. I had that happen once or twice but I just hit submit questions or whatever at the bottom then start over with a fresh set. If you didn't answer a question's recall level it will give it to you again. If you did, it goes away.
We are also reanalyzing our spaced learning algorithm thanks to your advice. We also have keyboard shortcuts and a MUCH faster review/quiz process coming this week as well! Thanks for the great feedback; keep it coming.
- Ben
I saw on the FAQ section of the gunner training website that there is a 1 month free trial, but you have to have a special code. Does anybody have that? I don't remember seeing one when I read through this thread (though I may have missed it).
I saw on the FAQ section of the gunner training website that there is a 1 month free trial, but you have to have a special code. Does anybody have that? I don't remember seeing one when I read through this thread (though I may have missed it).
SDN doesn't allow folks to post codes (they delete them and suspend the posters).
In general, what are people's thoughts on GT? Does it cover everything in FA? I can see how it is good for remembering all the details, but I'm guessing it isn't a replacement for FA.
Having just read this entire thread, I will try to very succinctly sum up what I've gathered about it. It doesn't seem to be a replacement for FA or UWorld, but is an adjunct to them. The purpose seems to be to keep the material you learn in class fresh, so you don't waste time learning stuff in class then forgetting it. While doing this, the repetitions lead to the material being committed to long-term memory. So it's kind of similar to reading and reviewing FA with class, but they also have questions to go with your reviewing.
Sorry, the only reason I came here and asked was because on the gunner training website they even suggest going to this type of forum and asking for the free month promo code. Which seems weird to me, why wouldn't they just take out the middle man, make things easier, and offer a free month directly at their website?
I did a search and couldn't find what I was looking for. How are the questions in the Gunner q bank? I've done all of UW, Kaplan, and RX. Can you just use the bank in GT, or do you have to do the whole program? It says they have over 6,000 questions, and I was just wondering what you guys and gals thought about it.
Having used Uworld, Rx, Kaplan and GT, i have to say you MUST use other qbanks in addition to gunner training. It does a great job of going over high yield facts but there are large gaps in it's spread.
Having used Uworld, Rx, Kaplan and GT, i have to say you MUST use other qbanks in addition to gunner training. It does a great job of going over high yield facts but there are large gaps in it's spread.
if you're rising MS2s: goljan audio + RR + GT throughout the school year = very very good place when dedicated study time rolls around. if you want a free code PM me. program is fantastic.
Is RR Path necessary if you use GT + Kaplan + UWorld + Goljan Audio with FA as a reference? I kind of get the feeling that passively reading it again isn't as high yield as the other sources I mentioned which is a more active way of learning (note I'm saying I would have already done 1-2 passes through RR prior to studying).
Use GUNNERTRAINING EARLY AND NOW. You dont have to study hours a day maybe just half an hour.
The point of the program is to build long term memory through repetition. The earlier you start - in theory - the better and stronger the memory you will build and the more information it will be. My mistake was starting it in August or the end of year 1. At first, i thought the program was a joke but after using it religiously, i see the value of it. It certainly shouldnt be your only study method. It helps in remembering the nitty gritty details of information and not in learning something new.
I'm a huge fan of GT but it focuses on some stuff to the exclusion of others. Way too much derm for some reason, and almost zero neuro? WTF?
When I initially started it after finishing MS1 I would try to go through flashcards and bank stuff I hadn't learned from a real textbook yet. That was a huge mistake. It doesn't really give you enough material to retain. UAAWolf is completely correct that it only works really well for stuff you've learned in depth and largely forgotten.
So you have to study stuff outside of GT, especially if you're doing the same questions on the same material every day and it's not sticking. I don't view it as a qbank really, it's more like interactive first aid. Why that guy was annotating his first aid with GT I'll never know. Talk about totally defeating the purpose.
Is RR Path necessary if you use GT + Kaplan + UWorld + Goljan Audio with FA as a reference? I kind of get the feeling that passively reading it again isn't as high yield as the other sources I mentioned which is a more active way of learning (note I'm saying I would have already done 1-2 passes through RR prior to studying).
What subjects do you think it lacks in?
It covers probably 75% - maybe less - of first aid. A good chunk of it is the neuro section, which isnt that high yield any way, and it is weak in anatomy. Frankly, it is fine that gunner is not covering the other 25%. It would be waaaay too many flashcards if it were to cover the other minutae of first aid.
I'm a huge fan of GT but it focuses on some stuff to the exclusion of others. Way too much derm for some reason, and almost zero neuro? WTF?
When I initially started it after finishing MS1 I would try to go through flashcards and bank stuff I hadn't learned from a real textbook yet. That was a huge mistake. It doesn't really give you enough material to retain. UAAWolf is completely correct that it only works really well for stuff you've learned in depth and largely forgotten.
So you have to study stuff outside of GT, especially if you're doing the same questions on the same material every day and it's not sticking. I don't view it as a qbank really, it's more like interactive first aid. Why that guy was annotating his first aid with GT I'll never know. Talk about totally defeating the purpose.
Maybe I'm crazy, but I think a good tactic is to study GT with your first aid book right there.
I sit at the computer, go through the flash cards, go through the same stuff in first aid, then do my "review questions". If I get stumped by a Q, before I see the answer I look it up in first aid, then I see what they put.
I just like studying with a book nearby mainly lol
So how early is too early to start GT? Midway through M1? First day of class?
then you can gun freely (without friendly fire).
Before I pay for this, can someone tell me what it is exactly? I know it's interactive and something about flashcards, but their website does a piss poor job of explaining what it is they do.
Do you make your own flashcards out of FA? Do they have pre-made flashcards for you to use? Are the flashcards part of the q-bank? I just don't get it.
Before I pay for this, can someone tell me what it is exactly? I know it's interactive and something about flashcards, but their website does a piss poor job of explaining what it is they do.
Do you make your own flashcards out of FA? Do they have pre-made flashcards for you to use? Are the flashcards part of the q-bank? I just don't get it.
As long as you are using GT to review material you have already covered/learned, and not trying to learn new concepts with it, then you should be fine. I started at the end of MS1, but if I had it to do over again I would probably start it a month or two into first year. Reason being that you want to get comfortable with your new school and classes first, then you can gun freely (without friendly fire).
As long as you are using GT to review material you have already covered/learned, and not trying to learn new concepts with it, then you should be fine. I started at the end of MS1, but if I had it to do over again I would probably start it a month or two into first year. Reason being that you want to get comfortable with your new school and classes first, then you can gun freely (without friendly fire).
I would go with the first day as well. This way instead of spending two hours + a day in year 2, you can spend 20-30 minutes a day for two years. Trust me when i say nothing is more frustrating than having to go through 500 or so flashcards a day. It starts becoming a waste of time because there is only so much you can remember/review.
I would go with the first day as well. This way instead of spending two hours + a day in year 2, you can spend 20-30 minutes a day for two years. Trust me when i say nothing is more frustrating than having to go through 500 or so flashcards a day. It starts becoming a waste of time because there is only so much you can remember/review.
This is why I am trying to get caught up with everything from first year over the summer. Once you have something "mastered," then you just have to keep it in long-term memory by reviewing it every week or 2 (whatever GT has determined is necessary).
It seems to me though that if you go through too many flashcards too quickly then you don't get it mastered, and then you have to review like 500 things a day. Then when you review that many cards in a day you can't retain enough to rate things a 4 or 5, so you just have to review everything again in a day or two. Basically it creates a vicious cycle.
GT is not a program you can power through quickly in a few weeks, so as others have said, start it early as early as possible to get the best benefit out of it.
Agreed, though with mastery it ends up being more like every 60-90 days, which I wish was a shorter interval. Even something I've mastered can slip away in that time, and I wish there was a max of around 30 days (even though that would up the daily question total) unless you clicked the "never see this again" button. Or at least there should be a way to adjust that in the preferences.
Agreed, though with mastery it ends up being more like every 60-90 days, which I wish was a shorter interval. Even something I've mastered can slip away in that time, and I wish there was a max of around 30 days (even though that would up the daily question total) unless you clicked the "never see this again" button. Or at least there should be a way to adjust that in the preferences.