Return on C arm

[med7343]

Our hospital bought a C arm (1 week ago) after I selected the C arm.
Unfortunately, the last 2 times I have used it the image quality sucks especially on high BMI patients.
I wish I could exchange for another model from the same company
Wonder what the return/exchange policy are on these big ticket items.
Anyone had similar experience?

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[geauxg8rs]

Our hospital bought a C arm (1 week ago) after I selected the C arm.
Unfortunately, the last 2 times I have used it the image quality sucks especially on high BMI patients.
I wish I could exchange for another model from the same company
Wonder what the return/exchange policy are on these big ticket items.
Anyone had similar experience?

Hospitals problem not yours. Tell them it sucks and can’t do your work

 

[lobelsteve]

Do you have a receipt?

 

[Ligament]

Make sure it is being utilized properly with the proper settings. If so and still does not work, it is the hospitals problem and they will need to get you another. Not your $.

 

[BobBarker]

Should have used American Express.

 

[Ligament]

I've seen so many RTs and pain physicians blame the c-arm when in fact the settings were all wrong.

 

[Laryngospasm]

Any suggestions on optimizing settings?

 

[med7343]

This is the best i could get for a ganglion impar.

We had the GE rep come today to help with the setting. I went for the GE one, now regret not going for the 9900 elite model. Thought i will save $$$ for the hospital and also have more space in our small procedure unit. I hope they come with a return/exchange window.

 

[callmeanesthesia]

Do you have anything a little more representative? Lateral and AP lumbar, MBBs, cervical ESI something like that? I often find with the view you have that the stark difference in density between basically just subq tissue and fat posterior to the sacrum/coccyx and the whole pelvis anterior makes the image over/under exposed, especially if their bone density isn’t the best. GEs are typically workhorses, and a brand new one should have amazing image quality.

 

[Got Em]

e setting. I went for the GE one, now regret not going for the 9900 elite model. Thought i will save $$$ for the hospital and also have more space in our small procedure unit. I hope they come with a return/exchange window.

Which model is your current one?

 

[smarterchild]

I was actually in the market for the oec one but, before I purchased it, I had the rep connect me with other pain physicians who were using it. The rep wasn’t that thrilled about the idea but did eventually provide me with some contacts. The 3 pain docs I spoke with had the same experience you are having- good for those thin and medium patients, but penetration for obese patients can be a challenge. One doctor eventually ended up selling it (taking a huge hit, mind you) and getting a used Phillips pulsera

 

[lobelsteve]

OEC Elite CFD

The OEC Elite CFD premium mobile C-arm provides stunning image quality at a low dose, giving surgeons the ability to see more detail and anatomy.

www.gehealthcare.com

My hospital picked up two of these for OR and ASC. Image quality better than 9900 and Pulsera (mine is 2007).
Great flat ii. Upgrade.

 

[Ducttape]

if that patient is huge, it might be the best image you can get with any machine.

you do have it coned down. maybe take it off pulsed for a shot or two. increase the brightness after you take the pic. you do have a competent rad tech to change these settings, right?

 

[med7343]

I maybe able to exchange
any comments/ criticism on "New OEC Elite 21cm Ergo-C with OEC Touch PMCare C-arm"

 

[Doctodd]

for the occasional obese patient you need to ramp up the settings. You dont really need 15kw of power for every procedure on everyone. 2.5kw, which is what you and i have, is perfectly fine for almost every procedure we do. I even use low dose on my unit also cuz i dont need crystal clear pictures of a facet joint and id like to keep my finger nails when im older. We wont get hit by the extra radiation of the 15kw. The elite CFD is nice....but not $175k-180k nice.

 

[plasma.]

for the occasional obese patient you need to ramp up the settings. You dont really need 15kw of power for every procedure on everyone. 2.5kw, which is what you and i have, is perfectly fine for almost every procedure we do. I even use low dose on my unit also cuz i dont need crystal clear pictures of a facet joint and id like to keep my finger nails when im older. We wont get hit by the extra radiation of the 15kw. The elite CFD is nice....but not $175k-180k nice.

@Doctodd do you have the OEC one? Or are you just using the lower dose on another unit?

 

[Doctodd]

@Doctodd do you have the OEC one? Or are you just using the lower dose on another unit?

I ended up getting the elite as an upgrade because of the chip situation

 

[lobelsteve]

I ended up getting the elite as an upgrade because of the chip situation

Best unit on the market

 

[plasma.]

Awesome thanks gentlemen, that helps