Short and Asian for men is pretty much the kiss of death for dating in America

[that redhead]

Plenty of men in western society want to have a variety of sexual experiences with a large number of women then to settle down with an innocent inexperienced woman. Nothing wrong with wanting that.

It's only wrong when women want to to the same, amirite?

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[touchpause13]

So stone me. Lol

 

[that redhead]

So stone me. Lol

You 30yr old slut.

Oh wait, that's WTF.

You 20something slut.

 

[touchpause13]

I'm such a sloot guys. Even tho my number is less than half student's. I'm just a big hobag

 

[that redhead]

I'm such a sloot guys. Even tho my number is less than half student's. I'm just a big hobag

It's because you have a vagine that is supposed to be kept under lock and key until the right Man comes along to claim it but you've let it be sullied. Tsk tsk. Back to the kitchen now, TP, before the interwebs damages your fragile female mind any more than it already has.

 

[touchpause13]

Sooo... student. Is it okay if I sullied other vagines? Or is that a no no?

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

You 30yr old slut.

Oh wait, that's WTF.

You 20something slut.

I'm still 29 TYVM !

 

[VenusinFurs]

Plenty of men in western society want to have a variety of sexual experiences with a large number of women then to settle down with an innocent inexperienced woman. Nothing wrong with wanting that.

Well there is if you call girls who do have more experience sluts and negate everything they have to say about sex and relationships purely on the basis that they have (GASP) cheated once before. AND you claim NO DECENT MAN will have a lady who's slept with more than TEN DUDES because her vagina is DIRTY. You say things like that, you need to get gone back to the middle ages, sorry bro.

Re: hypothyroidism, almost all of my patients who are hypothyroid who get therapeutic on their synthroid still have a ton of trouble losing weight. Some of them do have an improvement in other symptoms like fatigue, but a lot of them don't. Basically, gaining weight is easy but losing it is hard, and the symptoms of hypothyroidism are so vague (in the majority of cases) that the hypothyroidism probably isn't actually causing the symptoms in the first place, it's just super common to get overweight and tired.

I really need to stop checking this thread for my own happiness.

 

[studentp0x]

Well there is if you call girls who do have more experience sluts and negate everything they have to say about sex and relationships purely on the basis that they have (GASP) cheated once before. AND you claim NO DECENT MAN will have a lady who's slept with more than TEN DUDES because her vagina is DIRTY. You say things like that, you need to get gone back to the middle ages, sorry bro.

Re: hypothyroidism, almost all of my patients who are hypothyroid who get therapeutic on their synthroid still have a
ton of trouble losing weight. Some of them do have an improvement in other symptoms like fatigue, but a lot of them don't. Basically, gaining weight is easy but losing it is hard, and the symptoms of hypothyroidism are so vague (in the majority of cases) that the hypothyroidism probably isn't actually causing the
symptoms in the first place, it's just super common to get overweight and tired.

I really need to stop checking this thread for my own happiness.

Some people are strictly off limits to cheating based on life long morals. Anyone who cheats can cheat again, it just takes the right circumstances.

And well, if a guy doesn't care about the woman's number, it's simply because his is higher or it's a lot higher. I've had guys in their 30s/40s tell me this as well as guys who are 17-25. I've seen a couple legit quality guys I've known not go for a nice attractive girl because her number was 10-12 or whatever.

What's the big deal anyway? Quality girls don't like manwhores, quality men don't like sluts... it's the same on both sides. Where you draw the line on what you consider a slut, is based on your own preferences/standards.

 

[touchpause13]

I can't even with you. Because someone makes a mistake when they are 16 that means they have crap morals for the rest of their life??

Good to know I'm a horrible sloot

 

[studentp0x]

I can't even with you. Because someone makes a mistake when they are 16 that means they have crap morals for the rest of their life??

Good to know I'm a horrible sloot

The age thing isn't all that relevant either. Some people change to some degree, some don't change at all.
It's up to the other person to accept somebody and take the necessary risk (and there's risk in every relationship of course).

Someone who's given in and cheated once shows that they are more likely to do the same thing in the future given the perfect scenario vs. someone who hasn't before.

 

[touchpause13]

I'd rather date someone who cheated in the past and is upfront about it than someone who is controlling

 

[Misaenator]

I'd rather date someone who cheated in the past and is upfront about it than someone who is controlling

See the thing with that is I need to do some investigation on the prev relationship, on why the other decided to cheat on their partner. I need more info before proceeding with the relationship thou.

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[touchpause13]

See the thing with that is I need to do some investigation on the prev relationship, on why the other decided to cheat on their partner. I need more info before proceeding with the relationship thou.

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That's fair

 

[Misaenator]

That's fair

Trust and loyalty are hard to earn. It is what it is

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[touchpause13]

Trust and loyalty are hard to earn. It is what it is

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I agree.

And just to clarify when I say, I cheated, I mean I kissed a girl who wasn't my girlfriend. My girlfriend then broke up with me, and I ended up dating this other girl for a long time (who then cheated on me)

 

[Misaenator]

I agree.

And just to clarify when I say, I cheated, I mean I kissed a girl who wasn't my girlfriend. My girlfriend then broke up with me, and I ended up dating this other girl for a long time (who then cheated on me)

Ok nvm then. Were u drunk or high at the time of the incidence? Were ur ex and u not getting along or sth? There're lot of factors involved in order to say whose fault it is. But hey, it happened. Lesson learned.

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[touchpause13]

Sober. And we hadn't really been talking. It was my fault though. I wanted to be with the girl I kissed, and the mature thing would have been to break it off with my girlfriend first.

Looking back I never should have even gotten involved with the other girl. But hindsight, right?

I've never been unfaithful after that and I apologized to my ex for what I did.

 

[Misaenator]

Yea, it's just suck that the first girl happened to be with wrong person. And karma is a B, i said it all the time. I hate it

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[VenusinFurs]

Some people are strictly off limits to cheating based on life long morals. Anyone who cheats can cheat again, it just takes the right circumstances.

And well, if a guy doesn't care about the woman's number, it's simply because his is higher or it's a lot higher. I've had guys in their 30s/40s tell me this as well as guys who are 17-25. I've seen a couple legit quality guys I've known not go for a nice attractive girl because her number was 10-12 or whatever.

What's the big deal anyway? Quality girls don't like manwhores, quality men don't like sluts... it's the same on both sides. Where you draw the line on what you consider a slut, is based on your own preferences/standards.

Quality people don't judge people based on sexual exploits with whom they aren't even sexually involved with and it is therefore none of their business, i.e. you with a number of people in this thread. Also, as someone who presumably wants to be a doctor you really should know better than to extrapolate your personal experiences and those of your immediate friend group to a WHOLE DIVERSE POPULATION. That is just unscientific. A lot of people don't give a fig about the past. People learn from their experiences.

And who are you to judge who is "quality" and who isn't?

I can't believe this is what I'm doing instead of catching a nap.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

Ok nvm then. Were u drunk or high at the time of the incidence? Were ur ex and u not getting along or sth? There're lot of factors involved in order to say whose fault it is. But hey, it happened. Lesson learned.

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While I agree that there are lots of factors involved, cheating is always the fault of the cheater IMO. They may have had reasons, but it is still their choice. I think TP, even being the kisser, knows it was her fault even if she did gave very valid reasons.

 

[studentp0x]

Quality people don't judge people based on sexual exploits with whom they aren't even sexually involved with and it is therefore none of their business, i.e. you with a number of people in this thread. Also, as someone who presumably wants to be a doctor you really should know better than to extrapolate your personal experiences and those of your immediate friend group to a WHOLE DIVERSE POPULATION. That is just unscientific. A lot of people don't give a fig about the past. People learn from their experiences.

And who are you to judge who is "quality" and who isn't?

I can't believe this is what I'm doing instead of catching a nap.

Just cause someone has slept around and is a slut/manwhore doesn't mean they aren't a good person. I don't judge someone's "value"based on such things. I simply holds opinions that are shared by the majority of the population... I just present them maybe a bit differently (on online forums anyway)

And well I used a big stats site which was ignored... why was it ignored? Because people want to believe whatever idealist notion they like instead of being realistic.
When my experiences and friends' experiences.. line up with stats and studies, and that lines up with what most people say, I'm going to believe that's the truth.

As for people not caring about the past, yea that's indeed true. There's 2 issues with this:

1) Someone can have a terrible past of their own, so they'll ignore someone else's past. Like a former escort isn't going to care that their boyfriend has slept with 150 women before.

2) The past is the biggest predictive tool for the future. People who choose to ignore someone's past often due to out of emotional thinking rather than logical thinking. They like the guy/girl they're talking to and just go with that rather than logically looking at all the red flags.


I have to say again that it's mind blowing that people in this thread think that it's okay to go out and get drunk with people of the opposite sex (only people I've ever seen who are cool with this are the ghetto "swag"people). Then fast forward 3 months and she tells you she cheated last night while drunk and that it was a drunken mistake blah blah.

 

[skab]

Just cause someone has slept around and is a slut/manwhore doesn't mean they aren't a good person. I don't judge someone's "value"based on such things. I simply holds opinions that are shared by the majority of the population... I just present them maybe a bit differently (on online forums anyway)

And well I used a big stats site which was ignored... why was it ignored? Because people want to believe whatever idealist notion they like instead of being realistic.
When my experiences and friends' experiences.. line up with stats and studies, and that lines up with what most people say, I'm going to believe that's the truth.

As for people not caring about the past, yea that's indeed true. There's 2 issues with this:

1) Someone can have a terrible past of their own, so they'll ignore someone else's past. Like a former escort isn't going to care that their boyfriend has slept with 150 women before.

2) The past is the biggest predictive tool for the future. People who choose to ignore someone's past often due to out of emotional thinking rather than logical thinking. They like the guy/girl they're talking to and just go with that rather than logically looking at all the red flags.


I have to say again that it's mind blowing that people in this thread think that it's okay to go out and get drunk with people of the opposite sex (only people I've ever seen who are cool with this are the ghetto "swag"people). Then fast forward 3 months and she tells you she cheated last night while drunk and that it was a drunken mistake blah blah.

YOUR "STATS" SITE WAS NOT IGNORED!!! I spent half an hour researching infidelity, read the brochure for your alleged, beloved stats, and you didn't even bother to skim the abstract to the Kinsey report. How dare you! Didn't you learn anything from our exercise? I really can't believe you'd bring those stats up again, especially immediately followed by ANECDOTAL support. And since when did an objective lit review turn into "idealism"? Isn't this the most realistic thing to do? The most pragmatic and least subjective? Oh, you are bold, sir.

Also, literally WHO do you hang out with?! Have you ever gone to a bar? Do they have heterosexual single-sex bars that everyone's been hanging out at without me? I didn't know I had so much street cred for drinking with bros without my boyfriend's supervision. I must be super swag for surviving Mardi Gras without cheating, amirite?

 

[touchpause13]

Also, literally WHO do you hang out with?! Have you ever gone to a bar? Do they have heterosexual single-sex bars that everyone's been hanging out at without me?

Nope. Not a thing.

And I'm guessing he doesn't hang out with anyone. Poor baby

 

[TheWeeIceMan]

Also, literally WHO do you hang out with?! Have you ever gone to a bar? Do they have heterosexual single-sex bars that everyone's been hanging out at without me? I didn't know I had so much street cred for drinking with bros without my boyfriend's supervision. I must be super swag for surviving Mardi Gras without cheating, amirite?

Since he can't be at a bar with other women, I would guess that he goes to those bars that only have have men in them. Just a bunch of heterosexual dudes having a good time.

 

[skab]

Nope. Not a thing.

And I'm guessing he doesn't hang out with anyone. Poor baby

This might be the safest situation to prevent infidelity. You never know, when drinking is involved--lowered inhibitions could lead to a little more bromance than intended.

 

[skab]

Since he can't be at a bar with other women, I would guess that he goes to those bars that only have have men in them. Just a bunch of heterosexual dudes having a good time.

This is fair-- I suppose there are sports bars and the like that are a safer bet. But what if someone's girlfriend joins in? Or someone single in the party picks up a stranger? Would excusing yourself from the group be the correct course of action? What about house parties? Dinner parties where wine might be served? Open-bar weddings?! Would you have double dates with other couples or is the risk of swinging too great? Where does it stop? Can you check out at the grocery store if there's a female clerk? What if you have kids of the opposite sex and they each want to have friends over at the house? Would mingling the groups be acceptable or only until a certain age? It seems rather difficult to prevent any sort of interaction with the opposite sex.

 

[TheWeeIceMan]

This is fair-- I suppose there are sports bars and the like that are a safer bet. But what if someone's girlfriend joins in? Or someone single in the party picks up a stranger? Would excusing yourself from the group be the correct course of action? What about house parties? Dinner parties where wine might be served? Open-bar weddings?! Would you have double dates with other couples or is the risk of swinging too great? Where does it stop? Can you check out at the grocery store if there's a female clerk? What if you have kids of the opposite sex and they each want to have friends over at the house? Would mingling the groups be acceptable or only until a certain age? It seems rather difficult to prevent any sort of interaction with the opposite sex.

Oh, I agree that it's crazy. My post was meant as a joke.

 

[studentp0x]

YOUR "STATS" SITE WAS NOT IGNORED!!! I spent half an hour researching infidelity, read the brochure for your alleged, beloved stats, and you didn't even bother to skim the abstract to the Kinsey report. How dare you! Didn't you learn anything from our exercise? I really can't believe you'd bring those stats up again, especially immediately followed by ANECDOTAL support. And since when did an objective lit review turn into "idealism"? Isn't this the most realistic thing to do? The most pragmatic and least subjective? Oh, you are bold, sir.

Also, literally WHO do you hang out with?! Have you ever gone to a bar? Do they have heterosexual single-sex bars that everyone's been hanging out at without me? I didn't know I had so much street cred for drinking with bros without my boyfriend's supervision. I must be super swag for surviving Mardi Gras without cheating, amirite?

You're not representative of everyone who's replied in this thread. So yes, the stats were largely ignored.

Are you actually asking what I do? I'm in the gym 15 hours a week at minimum (competitive powerlifter - hold national records and a world record). I see a couple of my best buddies at the gym regularly. Other than that, other friends I see at school. I see my gf a couple times a week, sometimes 3x if time permits. Other than that, the bulk of my time is spent maintaining a high GPA. I drink very occasionally, and couldn't care any less to drink more. My current lifestyle which has led me to several exceptional achievements across more than 1 sport, as well as academic achievements, is what I prefer.

So yea that's the synopsis on me since your current mindset is clearly: "oh you don't go to the bar every single week?? what in the world do you do then??"
I'm also unaware of these heterosexual guys who hang around with girls who are average looking to attractive, and just want to be friends. lolzzz. Are you women really THAT gullible that guys come out drinking with you, just to talk and be "friends." Let me guess, just cause he doesn't hit on you in a super direct fashion, then he clearly has no sort of sexual interest in you, right?

Any girl who has a legit guy friend who just wants to hang out, is either ugly OR the guy is 100% homosexual.

I'm guessing the next argument is going to revolve around it being okay to be around a guy who just wants to nail you, as long as you wouldn't ever do it blah blah. So would you girls be comfortable with your boyfriend getting drunk with girls who want to bang him? Over and over again? I'm sure this question will be ignored or a stupid answer will be given. Same logic, who wants their girlfriend hanging around guys who was just want to screw her?
And saying that the guy has been friends with her for 2 years is the worst excuse.

The whole alcohol note also does become relevant outside of a bar scenario. When more than a couple drinks are had, the possibility for more drinking goes up significantly and so do other potential issues (which include sexually related things).

Don't forget, there's a reason a lot of people say not go to the bar to meet women for serious dating. And there's a reason there's a such thing as "wife material" and "girlfriend material" girls, and the other types as well.

 

[skab]

You're not representative of everyone who's replied in this thread. So yes, the stats were largely ignored.

Are you actually asking what I do? I'm in the gym 15 hours a week at minimum (competitive powerlifter - hold national records and a world record). I see a couple of my best buddies at the gym regularly. Other than that, other friends I see at school. I see my gf a couple times a week, sometimes 3x if time permits. Other than that, the bulk of my time is spent maintaining a high GPA. I drink very occasionally, and couldn't care any less to drink more. My current lifestyle which has led me to several exceptional achievements across more than 1 sport, as well as academic achievements, is what I prefer.

So yea that's the synopsis on me since your current mindset is clearly: "oh you don't go to the bar every single week?? what in the world do you do then??"
I'm also unaware of these heterosexual guys who hang around with girls who are average looking to attractive, and just want to be friends. lolzzz. Are you women really THAT gullible that guys come out drinking with you, just to talk and be "friends." Let me guess, just cause he doesn't hit on you in a super direct fashion, then he clearly has no sort of sexual interest in you, right?

Any girl who has a legit guy friend who just wants to hang out, is either ugly OR the guy is 100% homosexual.

I'm guessing the next argument is going to revolve around it being okay to be around a guy who just wants to nail you, as long as you wouldn't ever do it blah blah. So would you girls be comfortable with your boyfriend getting drunk with girls who want to bang him? Over and over again? I'm sure this question will be ignored or a stupid answer will be given. Same logic, who wants their girlfriend hanging around guys who was just want to screw her?
And saying that the guy has been friends with her for 2 years is the worst excuse.

The whole alcohol note also does become relevant outside of a bar scenario. When more than a couple drinks are had, the possibility for more drinking goes up significantly and so do other potential issues (which include sexually related things).

Don't forget, there's a reason a lot of people say not go to the bar to meet women for serious dating. And there's a reason there's a such thing as "wife material" and "girlfriend material" girls, and the other types as well.

I'm honestly so fine with people living whatever life they want to lead, but it becomes problematic when you try to force your own values on people who clearly believe otherwise. You brought up drinking with the opposite sex, so bars seemed a likely environment for this kind of behavior.

You're right that I've had unwanted attention from guys, but once they're aware of my relationship status, they have enough respect to stop pursuing me. Being in a long-distance relationship for +/- the last 5 years, I am more than comfortable with my boyfriend drinking with girls. You can't really do long-distance if you don't trust your partner. I would never have wanted him to curb his college/grad school experience on my behalf, and I expected the same from him.

 

[skab]

Oh, I agree that it's crazy. My post was meant as a joke.

Oh, for sure, just trying to fend off the attack before the counterarguments began. I bowed out of this thread a few pages back but it's still a sick fascination of mine.

 

[VenusinFurs]

Studentpox, I'm not going to lie, I didn't even take a look at your statistics website because statistics are terribly misleading and unscientific, especially when they are pulled off polls. Most of your views about relationships seem to be based on your personal experiences and those of your immediate friend group, so I'm just going to talk about my personal experience. I'm a bit older than you and most of my friends are married with kids or in rather serious relationships. I mostly socialize with my fellow residents, and many of them have spouses who don't always come hang out with us or significant others who live too far away to do so. From what I've observed, most people who are happily married/ in relationships trust each other and do not constantly assume their significant other is going to go bone other people while they are out, even if they do get drunk, which in my peer group is a pretty rare occurrence.

So basically, I think that people develop more self control as they age, and once you get past the college scene most people aren't like constantly down to clown. I know that older people do cheat, but it's not because they're going out and getting smashed and trolling for vaginas and penises. And I do not believe the answer to the problem of cheating is to never allow your significant other to hang out with other people, even if there is going to be alcohol there. If you can't trust your partner to not cheat in certain situations I don't really see the point of a relationship, because that sounds pretty miserable.

Also, it sounds to me like you are probably something of an introvert, just as a side note.

 

[studentp0x]

I'm honestly so fine with people living whatever life they want to lead, but it becomes problematic when you try to force your own values on people who clearly believe otherwise. You brought up drinking with the opposite sex, so bars seemed a likely environment for this kind of behavior.

You're right that I've had unwanted attention from guys, but once they're aware of my relationship status, they have enough respect to stop pursuing me. Being in a long-distance relationship for +/- the last 5 years, I am more than comfortable with my boyfriend drinking with girls. You can't really do long-distance if you don't trust your partner. I would never have wanted him to curb his college/grad school experience on my behalf, and I expected the same from him.

I'm not trying to force my values. I'm just saying that as long as you're comfortable with your boyfriend hanging out and getting drunk with girls he wants to bang and finds attractive, then it's fine.

 

[studentp0x]

Studentpox, I'm not going to lie, I didn't even take a look at your statistics website because statistics are terribly misleading and unscientific, especially when they are pulled off polls. Most of your views about relationships seem to be based on your personal experiences and those of your immediate friend group, so I'm just going to talk about my personal experience. I'm a bit older than you and most of my friends are married with kids or in rather serious relationships. I mostly socialize with my fellow residents, and many of them have spouses who don't always come hang out with us or significant others who live too far away to do so. From what I've observed, most people who are happily married/ in relationships trust each other and do not constantly assume their significant other is going to go bone other people while they are out, even if they do get drunk, which in my peer group is a pretty rare occurrence.

So basically, I think that people develop more self control as they age, and once you get past the college scene most people aren't like constantly down to clown. I know that older people do cheat, but it's not because they're going out and getting smashed and trolling for vaginas and penises. And I do not believe the answer to the problem of cheating is to never allow your significant other to hang out with other people, even if there is going to be alcohol there. If you can't trust your partner to not cheat in certain situations I don't really see the point of a relationship, because that sounds pretty miserable.

Also, it sounds to me like you are probably something of an introvert, just as a side note.

I think anyone who thinks infidelity isn't a super common thing in the west, is extremely delusional. You don't even need stats to know this.

I find that the tolerance level of liberal minded idealists (like on this thread) is WAY too high (for pretty much every aspect of life). No line is drawn to determine what's okay and what's not okay. Clearly the system you're preaching is not okay, since that system also boasts a 50% divorce rate which is ridiculously high. Your friends are married now... and you say you're a bit older.. give it a few years until you see the divorces happen.

And no I'm actually near an introvert.

 

[DocEspana]

If I am to understand correctly.... everyone here wants the D, right?

I might have skimmed the thread a little, but I think thats the gyst, amiright?

 

[touchpause13]

If I am to understand correctly.... everyone here wants the D, right?

I might have skimmed the thread a little, but I think thats the gyst, amiright?

You really should read through this DocE. Many lolz are to be had

 

[DocEspana]

You really should read through this DocE. Many lolz are to be had

As a spaniard I am very easily moved to an overwhelming urge to stab people with knives. The newborn nursery really frowns on their resident staff going on (well meaning) laceration-sprees to release stress after reading people who slut-shame.

 

[touchpause13]

As a spaniard I am very easily moved to an overwhelming urge to stab people with knives. The newborn nursery really frowns on their resident staff going on (well meaning) laceration-sprees to release stress after reading people who slut-shame.

Thanks for reminding me why I like you so much

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

You do realize that the divorce rate varies hugely depending on age at first marriage, education, income level, etc? It's a bit disingenous to say all marriages have a 50% failure rate. Plus the fact that those statistics were based on faulty calculations (comparing marriage rate to divorce rate within a single year) and some included second and third marriages to bump it up since those have a higher rate. The rate of divorce for a college-educated couples of average income who got married after age 26 is about 20%, for example. I thought we had been over this.

No one here is saying cheating is uncommon. It happens where there is immaturity and/or dissatisfaction in a relationship FIRST, and then you couple it with outside attraction.

What we are saying is trust is the absolute foundation of a healthy relationships, and if you cannot trust your significant other to even be in the presence of the opposite sex without you around (even without alcohol even being involved), as you said you cannot, and feel that randomly checking their email and phone without their knowledge is totally fine and normal, then you have severe insecurity issues.

Anyway, it seems there is absolutely no getting through to you, so I don't know what else to say. Done arguing.

 

[DocEspana]

You do realize that the divorce rate varies hugely depending on age at first marriage, education, income level, etc? It's a bit disingenous to say all marriages have a 50% failure rate. Plus the fact that those statistics were based on faulty calculations (comparing marriage rate to divorce rate within a single year) and some included second and third marriages to bump it up since those have a higher rate. The rate of divorce for a college-educated couples of average income who got married after age 26 is about 20%, for example. I thought we had been over this.

No one here is saying cheating is uncommon. It happens where there is immaturity and/or dissatisfaction in a relationship FIRST, and then you couple it with outside attraction.

What we are saying is trust is the absolute foundation of a healthy relationships, and if you cannot trust your significant other to even be in the presence of the opposite sex without you around (even without alcohol even being involved), as you said you cannot, and feel that randomly checking their email and phone without their knowledge is totally fine and normal, then you have severe insecurity issues.

Anyway, it seems there is absolutely no getting through to you, so I don't know what else to say. Done arguing.

THIS DOESNT SOUND LIKE A CONVERSATION ABOUT SANDWICHES OR DISHWASHING!!!

Sorry. Blacked out there. What happened? Did I time travel back to the 1800's again? Jeez. You'd think studentp0x was the only one able to do that.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

THIS DOESNT SOUND LIKE A CONVERSATION ABOUT SANDWICHES OR DISHWASHING!!!

Sorry. Blacked out there. What happened? Did I time travel back to the 1800's again? Jeez. You'd think studentp0x was the only one able to do that.

I guess he can in addition to all his other accomplishments, jacked physique, and way with the ladies that he feels compelled to remind us of so often

 

[Misaenator]

If I am to understand correctly.... everyone here wants the D, right?

I might have skimmed the thread a little, but I think thats the gyst, amiright?

Actually, it was the V. Lmao

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[studentp0x]

You do realize that the divorce rate varies hugely depending on age at first marriage, education, income level, etc? It's a bit disingenous to say all marriages have a 50% failure rate. Plus the fact that those statistics were based on faulty calculations (comparing marriage rate to divorce rate within a single year) and some included second and third marriages to bump it up since those have a higher rate. The rate of divorce for a college-educated couples of average income who got married after age 26 is about 20%, for example. I thought we had been over this.

No one here is saying cheating is uncommon. It happens where there is immaturity and/or dissatisfaction in a relationship FIRST, and then you couple it with outside attraction.

What we are saying is trust is the absolute foundation of a healthy relationships, and if you cannot trust your significant other to even be in the presence of the opposite sex without you around (even without alcohol even being involved), as you said you cannot, and feel that randomly checking their email and phone without their knowledge is totally fine and normal, then you have severe insecurity issues.

Anyway, it seems there is absolutely no getting through to you, so I don't know what else to say. Done arguing.

What happens when you include marriages which don't end after infidelity is discovered, when infidelity goes undiscovered, seperations, etc. Your total number goes much higher in terms of failure.

http://www.truthaboutdeception.com/cheating-and-infidelity/stats-about-infidelity.html

http://www.divinecaroline.com/love-...delity-statistics-are-men-cheating-more-women

Don't twist my words, I said I wouldn't be comfortable with my gf hanging out and getting drunk with guys who just want to get in her pants. You're saying that's totally okay. This thread is the first and only place I've ever seen anyone disagree with this.

As far as trust goes, the very fact that you think another human being can be trusted on such a deep level, especially so commonly, shows that at your age (29?) you're as naive as a 15 year old.
Would you put blind faith in an experimental treatment that has a 40-70% success rate? Because that's what you suggest people do with each other.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

So have you told your girlfriend that you assume there is a good chance she'll cheat on you, or you on her, and you have no plans to marry her since it's evidently such a useless institution? Something tells me she might not be ok with that

 

[touchpause13]

Dear god I hope you aren't stupid enough to use sources like that in your class work

 

[studentp0x]

So have you told your girlfriend that you assume there is a good chance she'll cheat on you, or you on her, and you have no plans to marry her since it's evidently such a useless institution? Something tells me she might not be ok with that

You've essentially preached advice based off of emotional thinking. Then again most females do that and this thread is the best example. Disregard logic, follow your emotions.

BTW, what exactly gives you the authority to determine a "cut off age" for analyzing divorce? First you decide to look at college educated couples only... which is somewhat relevant for people on this forum (not everyone will marry someone who's also college educated like them though) but totally irrelevant to society in that most people do not have degrees.

Next, you decide to put a cut off age at 26... when the general legal age to marry is 18. Drinking age 21 in the states and 19 here in Canada.
You can't play around with numbers to make them suit your argument.

 

[studentp0x]

Dear god I hope you aren't stupid enough to use sources like that in your class work

Sounds like I got a little unscientific, right?

 

[touchpause13]

You've essentially preached advice based off of emotional thinking. Then again most females do that and this thread is the best example. Disregard logic, follow your emotions.

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/excuse-me-what-is-this-****ery.gif

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

What I think you don't understand is that cheating is a byproduct of an unhappy relationship.

Many people today are IN unhappy relationships because of the excessive me-first culture today and unwillingness to compromise and work at relationships. Therefore, infidelity occurs. It doesn't just happen out of the blue because you put a man and a woman in the same room and they can't keep their relative organs in their pants. Excessively controlling who your SO can and cannot hang out with and going through their stuff without their permission will not prevent cheating. If someone is going to cheat, I guarantee you they are going to find a way to do it no matter what you do. In fact, displaying such an immense amount of disrespect (hey gf, I can't trust you to keep it in your pants, so you can't hang out with other men without me, mmkay?) and insecurity creates an atmosphere of distrust which is an eventual death sentence to any relationship.

Every time he insists on referring to women as "females" I just think

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

You've essentially preached advice based off of emotional thinking. Then again most females do that and this thread is the best example. Disregard logic, follow your emotions.

BTW, what exactly gives you the authority to determine a "cut off age" for analyzing divorce? First you decide to look at college educated couples only... which is somewhat relevant for people on this forum (not everyone will marry someone who's also college educated like them though) but totally irrelevant to society in that most people do not have degrees.

Next, you decide to put a cut off age at 26... when the general legal age to marry is 18. Drinking age 21 in the states and 19 here in Canada.
You can't play around with numbers to make them suit your argument.

I was referring to a study found that the divorce rate significantly declined after that age. I didn't arbitrarily decide anything. Actually, here in the US, almost 60% of the population has at least some college education and 40% having either Associate's degrees or Bachelor's degrees so....yeah, it IS kind of relevant.

I was giving you an example. You're completely missing my point. My point is that there are TONS of demographics that have VERY different divorce rates, and that applying the average of them all to every single case with a blanket statement (marriage has a 50% failure rate) as you did is not true. A young, uneducated, poor couple is not equivalent to an older, educated, middle class couple, which is what you were implying.