The Official April MCAT 2015 Takers Thread

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Hey guys,

I've seen some old threads (from 2012, or early 2014) on the MCAT2015.

I am wondering if we can bring resources together here, discussions for those who are planning on taking the new one in or after April.

Has anyone gotten their hands on the new prep material for 2015, and the chance to compare the different companies? I scoured the internet, obviously not much at the moment. But I know someone out there has started, just need to get this info out!

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Resources mentioned in this thread or elsewhere:

  • Free mini-test: AAMC MCAT 2015 12 sample questions and answer (3 x 4 sections)
  • Next Step guide here: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...e-mcat-2015-100-days-to-mcat-success.1101251/
  • TPR 2015 books: They seem to be the same as their previous books. Their bio book has a chapter on biochem.
  • Kaplan 2015 books: removed content that is not tested. Physics section is 400 pages (may be too much for the new MCAT). Very little practice. Whole book on biochem.
  • EK 9th edition books: reformatted the whole book. SDNer reviewer has said that even parts with same illustrations have whole new contents. Got rid of topics that won't be tested. May be too condensed though.
 
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Does anyone know if we will actually get a number score for our test or if well just get percentiles like the aamc sample test? If they're just percentiles, how will we get an overall percentile for the entire test if we don't get an actual score for each section?

Today's test:

PS: not too bad, physics wasnt as bad as I thought. I would know biochem in and out. PS is nothing like the old mcat. If you're expecting titration curves or stoichiometry or whatever else was on the old mcat, you'll be disappointed. Literally everything is in a biochemical context.

VR: Verbal is verbal. Not terribly hard but I still struggled a lot. Historically my worst section.

Bio: You better be good at data interpretation. This whole section felt like I was analyzing the New England Medical Journal. Gg.

Psych: Very difficult. I was killing this section on all of my practice tests yet there were still a ton of terms I had never heard in my life.

Prediction based on the old MCAT scale:
PS 12
VR 8
BS 12
SS 10

Hope this helped!
Thanks!
What did you study with? Was anything you used representive of what you saw?
 
hmm.. so it's obvious that the AAMC FL and Official Guide are helpful... but how about the QUESTION PACKS.. Are they relevant/helpful? Because they are composed of OLD FL and Assessment Questions and it seems people who did old FL stuff said that it was completely different from the current one after they'd taken it..
 
hmm.. so it's obvious that the AAMC FL and Official Guide are helpful... but how about the QUESTION PACKS.. Are they relevant/helpful? Because they are composed of OLD FL and Assessment Questions and it seems people who did old FL stuff said that it was completely different from the current one after they'd taken it..

The question packs are simple and content review (excluding verbal), different from new MCAT in style.
 
Just finished the exam and I thought I would try to answer some questions.

1) Psych Soc is not like the AAMC released test.

Sorry guys. I scored 80% on the psych/soc section of the practice test and knew I did pretty well. The psych/soc section was horrible, I used Kaplan which everyone says is very detail oriented, but there were theories and people on the test I'd never even heard of. Absolutely brutal.

2) CARS is a pretty good representation. There was only one strengthen/weaken on the entire test. Thought it went well.

3) Chem/Phys was alright. There was almost no O Chem other than identifying functional groups. Little physics as well. Hard, but I think it went well.

I took it today as well and I felt just like this.

Scored well on the psych sample test and felt like it was a different ballgame on the exam today.

CARS was straightforward enough. Bio was as well.

The physics section... Well, it was ok but I had my WTF moments for sure. My worst section by far, but didn't feel too down about it.

Good luck to everyone tomorrow!! 🙂
 
Does anyone know if we will actually get a number score for our test or if well just get percentiles like the aamc sample test? If they're just percentiles, how will we get an overall percentile for the entire test if we don't get an actual score for each section?

Today's test:

PS: not too bad, physics wasnt as bad as I thought. I would know biochem in and out. PS is nothing like the old mcat. If you're expecting titration curves or stoichiometry or whatever else was on the old mcat, you'll be disappointed. Literally everything is in a biochemical context.

VR: Verbal is verbal. Not terribly hard but I still struggled a lot. Historically my worst section.

Bio: You better be good at data interpretation. This whole section felt like I was analyzing the New England Medical Journal. Gg.

Psych: Very difficult. I was killing this section on all of my practice tests yet there were still a ton of terms I had never heard in my life.

Prediction based on the old MCAT scale:
PS 12
VR 8
BS 12
SS 10

Hope this helped!
Percentile = / = percentage.

They will give you the percentile in 3 weeks (which is your ranking amongst other students), but you won't get the actual score. However, you can start making decisions based off your percentile because they have a preliminary chart that matches percentile with predicted scores.

They won't give you the percentage you got right and wrong, I believe.
 
Percentile = / = percentage.

They will give you the percentile in 3 weeks (which is your ranking amongst other students), but you won't get the actual score. However, you can start making decisions based off your percentile because they have a preliminary chart that matches percentile with predicted scores.

They won't give you the percentage you got right and wrong, I believe
.

I think this would drive people insane. That's nice of them to give percentile ranking amongst other students
 
The sciences were straightforward but don't underestimate biochemistry; I know I sure did. Verbal was easier than the old MCAT, since you are given more time. Psych/soc had a TON of terms that are not mentioned in Kaplan or EK (used both). I believe that students who actually took a full semester in Psych and Sociology will be at a HUGE advantage, because test prep companies simply did not provide all the information necessary to perform well.

I'm going to have fun with my friends tonight and celebrate life. It's been a long road of studying for the old MCAT and then completely realigning myself to devote a short 2 months to the new MCAT; these twists and turns have been extremely challenging while working 45-50 hour weeks. I'm glad that I can say that I've tried my best, and even though I can point to so many things that I could have improved on, I'll rest easy knowing that I tried as hard as I could and learned a lot in the process.

Good luck to all of you 🙂
 
To everyone asking about materials to use:

Stop freaking out about which test prep company to use....they're all awful. Use the sample test and guide, and really go through them thoroughly. When I say thorough, I mean make sure you don't just understand the answer to every question you answered (both correctly and incorrectly), but also the concepts related to each question.

I completed about 60% of the physics question pack this week for a material review, picking out discrete questions and passages I thought would be high yield (optics and fluids), and I thought this was helpful to me. I also did the full bio question pack and almost all of the chemistry one, but I'm not sure if it made a difference (it made me feel more prepared though).

Use Khan academy's discrete questions to identify holes in your understanding.

If you do all of the above, as well as really study the material from the books, I don't see any reason to use test prep companies (or how you could possibly have time to still use them!)
 
First of all, Congrats to everyone who was brave enough to take it today!! and best of luck to everybody who is taking it tomorrow!! 🙂

For those who took the test: Any of you take the TPR practice tests and if so were they representative of the exam questions? I heard that for the old MCAT, TPR and Kaplan practice exams were considered to be a lot harder than the actual exam.
 
There must have been different tests because people that scored similarly to me on the sample test have very different feelings than me about how today's test went.

I'm usually pretty strong in bio/biochem, but that section was brutal for me. I felt like almost all of the passages were very dense/difficult to read with difficult data to analyze. That said, I also felt like I was answering questions without using the passages much, and that terrifies me! I also thought some of the discrete questions came out of nowhere, like no amount of studying would have prepared me for a few of them. I have no idea how that section went but I'm not feeling great about it.

I used the Kaplan book to study for Psych and the khan discrete questions for practice. Besides that and the released AAMC stuff, I didn't use anything (I didn't even use the practice questions in Kaplan's book). I think I had a different test than other posters because I thought this section was easier than any practice section I've ever taken.

I also wasn't sure if I was really prepared because I used so little material to prep, really only relying on the AAMC released stuff. If I had more time, I may have practiced timing a bit more so I was better at pacing myself during passages, but I don't think there was a gap in my understanding of material or content or review, for what that's worth.
 
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shiiiet, so it'd be wise to memorize the small details, like the enzymes in each step?
edit: Kaplan says to memorize only certain steps (like rate limiters, 3 highly exergonic, irreversible steps)
 
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This might seem obvious but I didn't figure this out until 8 days before my MCAT (lol), for the love of god, make sure you understand general themes in biochem! For example, make sure you know what conditions/hormones are catabolic/anabolic and everything will seem so much easier!!
 
The sciences were straightforward but don't underestimate biochemistry; I know I sure did. Verbal was easier than the old MCAT, since you are given more time. Psych/soc had a TON of terms that are not mentioned in Kaplan or EK (used both). I believe that students who actually took a full semester in Psych and Sociology will be at a HUGE advantage, because test prep companies simply did not provide all the information necessary to perform well.

I'm going to have fun with my friends tonight and celebrate life. It's been a long road of studying for the old MCAT and then completely realigning myself to devote a short 2 months to the new MCAT; these twists and turns have been extremely challenging while working 45-50 hour weeks. I'm glad that I can say that I've tried my best, and even though I can point to so many things that I could have improved on, I'll rest easy knowing that I tried as hard as I could and learned a lot in the process.

Good luck to all of you 🙂


Hi! KungFuPanda123, I believe you have done well on the test. You are definitely not alone when it comes to work and study for MCAT at the same time. I believe admission committee like people who can multitask.
 
Would you guys say that reading a textbook for the psychology section would help? Considering its difficulty that everyone is talking about?
 
thank you xyphr



The sciences were straightforward but don't underestimate biochemistry; I know I sure did. Verbal was easier than the old MCAT, since you are given more time. Psych/soc had a TON of terms that are not mentioned in Kaplan or EK (used both). I believe that students who actually took a full semester in Psych and Sociology will be at a HUGE advantage, because test prep companies simply did not provide all the information necessary to perform well.

I'm going to have fun with my friends tonight and celebrate life. It's been a long road of studying for the old MCAT and then completely realigning myself to devote a short 2 months to the new MCAT; these twists and turns have been extremely challenging while working 45-50 hour weeks. I'm glad that I can say that I've tried my best, and even though I can point to so many things that I could have improved on, I'll rest easy knowing that I tried as hard as I could and learned a lot in the process.

Good luck to all of you 🙂


hey man. hope you did well... so I'm curious since I know you took the EK exams. I know I asked a few days ago but now that u took the actual test, were they definitely the closest to AAMC? but still not close enough? 😳
 
Does anyone know if they'll give percentiles for the exam as a whole? From what I understand, they're only giving percentiles for individual sections?
 
Does anyone know if they'll give percentiles for the exam as a whole? From what I understand, they're only giving percentiles for individual sections?
I haven't taken the new MCAT, but looking at the score reports for my old MCAT, my guess is that they should give you percentile for the individual section as well as the overall percentile.
 
https://www.aamc.org/students/download/305340/data/2015examineeagreement.pdf
see:
I understand that prohibited acts include, but are not limited to: describing questions, passages, or graphics from the exam; identifying terms or concepts contained in exam questions; sharing answers to questions; referring others to information I saw on the exam; reconstructing a list of topics on the test; and discussing exam questions, answers, passages, graphics, or topics on Internet ”chat” rooms, message boards, forums, or through other means.
Nobody treats this seriously, at least in China. When a TOEFL/SAT ended, there will be tons of info floating on the internet/wechat literally the next day.
 
not really names. it was more terms, concepts. if you used EK book as I did... lol it def doesn't cover enough. it's hard to explain exactly, just really random questions from left field. I def thought it would be easier
Do you think that read a intro psych txtbk+ a intro socio one is enough? B/c my school's intro psyc and socio class suck, so I want to just read some text and maybe watching online vids
 
Nobody treats this seriously, at least in China. When a TOEFL/SAT ended, there will be tons of info floating on the internet/wechat literally the next day.

What does China have to do with applying to med school in America 😵
 
Would you guys say that reading a textbook for the psychology section would help? Considering its difficulty that everyone is talking about?

Absolutely not. No single textbook in Psych is written with the purpose of covering all MCAT topics. Reading textbooks has never been recommended as a prep for MCAT.
 
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Hey xyphr, I have the TPR Bio book (the one you are talking about in a previous post). Do you heavily recommend Kaplan Biochem? I also have an old TBR book 1/2 for the old MCAT bio. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
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Inquiring about individual topics covered on one single test day is silly. Not only is discussion of specific topics prohibited by AAMC, but it also serves no purpose as each individual test is not meant to test every single topic that all tests can draw from.
 
Absolutely not. No single textbook in Psych is written with the purpose of covering all MCAT topics. Reading textbooks has never been recommended as a prep for MCAT.
I disagree. Cuz Clearly those prep material do not work, so we have to find an alternative and IMO txtbk is the best option cuz P/S is testing intro psyc+ intro socio according to AAMC and these txtbk teaches you these subjects
 
Hey xyphr, I have the TPR Bio book (the one you are talking about in a previous post). Do you heavily recommend Kaplan Biochem? I also have an old TBR book 1/2 for the old MCAT bio. Any advice would be appreciated.


Hey man,

I would absolutely make the investment and purchase the Kaplan BC book. The Princeton book simply does not go into enough detail for biochem; the entire biochem portion of Princeton is just one measly little chapter. Kaplans BC is much, much more thorough, sometimes to the point of reading like a textbook because it goes so in depth. While this level of depth may be off putting to some people, I can attribute a lot of my (hopefully) success today to the things I learned from Kaplans BC book. Cheers!
 
now I feel like I'm wasting my time doing so many TBR passages
You and me both haha I've been drilling the living s**t out of them lol.

I've been reading Leningers Biochemistry book in accordance to the AAMC outline (and probably even more in-depth) and It has helped solidify a lot of my biochem knowledge so far. I have done a bunch of textbook questions but have yet to practice any biochem passages besides the ones in TBR. I really do not want to take biochem lightly so I will try and learn as much as possible about the concepts (with practice).
 
You and me both haha I've been drilling the living s**t out of them lol.

I've been reading Leningers Biochemistry book in accordance to the AAMC outline (and probably even more in-depth) and It has helped solidify a lot of my biochem knowledge so far. I have done a bunch of textbook questions but have yet to practice any biochem passages besides the ones in TBR. I really do not want to take biochem lightly so I will try and learn as much as possible about the concepts (with practice).
Yea I'm not gonna do anymore TBR it's totally different
 
Yea I'm not gonna do anymore TBR it's totally different
Really? I feel like TBR helps solidify your knowledge.. plus the bio has some experimental ones, no?

Seriously... Is doing TBR passages a waste of time to anyone that took the new test already? Now even less resources to practice with aside from AAMC stuff... *gulp*
 
TBR practice is fine for learning content. Of course it was never created for the purposes to reflect the new MCAT style.

I really wish TBR had their set out already but I don't blame them for taking their time to try to make them as very well in depth content wise. It's also a shame their in class course is only offered in California. I've read into a few reviews on here from people who liked it a lot. Of course, this was all for the old MCAT.
 
I'm still selectively using TBR (more for the passages than content though) because I want to master the content to the best of my ability. Concepts don't change, it's the way they present it that seems to be different. Anything that isn't on the books will be supplemented accordingly.
 
I really wish TBR had their set out already but I don't blame them for taking their time to try to make them as very well in depth content wise. It's also a shame their in class course is only offered in California. I've read into a few reviews on here from people who liked it a lot. Of course, this was all for the old MCAT.

Somebody posted a letter from TBR but I can't seem to find it. Basically they are not going to revise their books anytime soon but do plan to release a Psych book. They already have practice FLs for students in the course but have not yet made them available for everyone else to purchase.

I think they are a weirdly run company if you ask me: who else sells their materials the archaic way tbr does it.
 
I really wish TBR had their set out already but I don't blame them for taking their time to try to make them as very well in depth content wise. It's also a shame their in class course is only offered in California. I've read into a few reviews on here from people who liked it a lot. Of course, this was all for the old MCAT.
Somebody posted a letter from TBR but I can't seem to find it. Basically they are not going to revise their books anytime soon but do plan to release a Psych book. They already have practice FLs for students in the course but have not yet made them available for anyone else to purchase.

I think they are a weirdly run company if you ask me: who else sells their materials the archaic way of tbr.
Not that it will matter since I'm taking it within the next 2-3 months, but when will TBR release their new mcat 2015 prep books?

EDIT: nvm, answer is in above post... wonder when they'll release their psych book..
 
Not that it will matter since I'm taking it within the next 2-3 months, but when will TBR release their new mcat 2015 prep books?

EDIT: nvm, answer is in above post... wonder when they'll release their psych book..
Found their response!
(in the quote below):

"Thank you for your interest in The Berkeley Review's (TBR's) MCAT review program and Home Study materials. Based on what the AAMC has outlined in their current MCAT Student Manual (i.e., The Official Guide to the MCAT Exam (MCAT2015)), the changes to the new exam are as follows:

NEW MCAT versus OLD MCAT
Section 1

NEW: Chemical and Physical Foundations of Biological Systems
OLD: The Physical Sciences

Section 2
NEW: Critical Analysis and Reasoning Skills
OLD: Verbal Reasoning

Section 3
NEW: Biological and Biochemical Foundations of Living Systems
OLD: The Biological Sciences

Section 4
NEW: Psychological, Social, and Biological Foundations of Behavior
OLD: Nothing as this is a new section on the exam


COMPARISON of MCAT STUDENT MANUALS
If you were to compare the MCAT student manuals from the 1990s, the 2000s, and the current one released in 2014 (i.e., the one mentioned above), you will see that the vast majority of the materials for the first three sections of the new exam has not changed. For example, one still needs to know physics and general chemistry in Section I. The equations F = ma in physics and pH = pKa + log [A-]/[HA] in general chemistry have not changed. In Section 2, the "old" Verbal Reasoning section will sill be applicable to the new section of the exam. In Section 3 they are supposed to remove a little Organic Chemistry, but not much. (When the exam changed from a paper-and-pencil exam to the Computer-Based Test (CBT) in 2006/2007, they said they would eliminate Alkenes, Benzenes, and Phenols. However, they still showed up on the exam!) The only noticeable change in Section 3 is that the AAMC has now said that one needs to have a minimum of a semester of biochemistry at the college/university level. We anticipated this change many (many) years ago and incorporated the necessary biochemistry into Book II of the Biology series.


BIOCHEMISTRY
The Biochemistry topics listed below are incorporated into our books and lectures.

Biology: Cell Structure & Function
Biology: Metabolic Components
Biology: Metabolism
Biology Genetic Information
Biology: Genetic Expression
Biology: Molecular Genetics
Organic Chemistry: Amino Acids & Proteins

All of the lecture topics listed above are Biochemistry topics. If you've completed at least a minimum of a semester of Biochemistry, and you have used a Biochemistry book by either Zubay, Rawn, Stryer, Voet & Voet, Garrett & Grisham, Mathews & van Holde, or Lehninger, Nelson, & Cox, you will see that this material is covered in those books.

The remaining Biology topics you see on the schedule are all Human Physiology topics.

What this means is that the only real (extensive) change in topics comes down to the addition of the new Psychology / Sociology section on the exam.


RECENTLY RELEASED PRACTICE EXAM and NEW FORMAT
The AAMC has recently released a new practice exam for the MCAT that is scheduled to begin in April of 2015. They said that this is the only practice exam they will release for the 2015 exam dates. I think they know that one exam is not enough to practice with, so hopefully they will release a few more practice exams as the year progresses. However, we are not expecting that as this is the same transitional pattern that they used when the exam radically changed in 1991. Back then it took years for them to release new material.

We have seen the newly released practice exam and the only thing that sticks out is the format change to the exam (e.g., the sciences are now 95 minutes and 9-10 passages instead of 70 minutes and 7 passages) and the addition of the new Psychology / Sociology component. The materials in the first three sections of the exam are pretty much the same as it has always been. The new section will require one to be familiar with Psychology and Sociology.

Because there were no radical announcements after the AAMC's annual meeting in Chicago this past November, we think the exam format is pretty much set at this time. However, they have said that their evaluation of the new exam will be ongoing and that if they need to make adjustments, they will. And as an interesting aside, at their San Francisco conference they even said that they would consider reintroducing the Writing Sample in a few years if they felt it was necessary.

Since the first three sections of the exam are almost identical in content to the current exam, we have decided to use the same materials we currently have for our lecture-based review program and for the current set of Home Study books. The content and the passages in the current books will be fine for the new exam. As updated information about the transition into the new exam format is made available, we will adjust our materials accordingly. At the moment, the only new addition will be the Psychology / Sociology component, which should be out by late April or early May of 2015. And, we are also going to release three (3) practice CBTs (in the new format) as well. The practice exams should be available by early March.

One item of interest here: The AAMC has said that once the current version of this exam ends on January 23, 2015, they will be removing from circulation the practice CBTs they currently offer. One needs to ask: "What are they going to do with those practice passages?" It is not likely that they are going to throw them away. Maybe they will be recycled? The AAMC has invested too much time and money into their development. If they were good enough to study with for the old exam, they will be good enough to study with for the new exam as the core content has not changed. What a number of students who are taking the new MCAT in April of 2015 have been doing is purchasing the current practice exams before they are removed and saving them to study with (so at least the have a little more material from the AAMC), and they are purchasing our current books so they can get a jump on their studying and passage-taking skills. They are also going to purchase the one newly released AAMC exam as well. To put this a different way, we find that students are now starting their studying for the upcoming spring 2015 exams a lot earlier than they have in past years.

I hope all of this helps."
 
Somebody posted a letter from TBR but I can't seem to find it. Basically they are not going to revise their books anytime soon but do plan to release a Psych book. They already have practice FLs for students in the course but have not yet made them available for everyone else to purchase.

I think they are a weirdly run company if you ask me: who else sells their materials the archaic way tbr does it.

I hope they do by late May or so. I would love to try them out.
 
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