You probably don't look hispanic to us. I've heard a ton of you make this claim and we (real hispanics) know that you don't. Having a Hispanic last name is meaningless. They ask on the application Hispanic from where. Maybe you will lie and also say it's from Mexico? "Hispanic-Filipino" is not going to fly.
fixed that for ya
The UCSF study in collaboration with the CA Medical Board asked for the ethnicity of practicing physicians, then identified where they attended medical school (see Table 3). About 3% of practicing docs described themselves as Filipino. My point remains that most of them trained in their home country. Since about 3% of California's population is Filipino, they are viewed to be at parity in our state. In contrast, Cambodians, Hmong and Samoans are dramatically under-represented and do receive special consideration at CA medical schools.
No, you guys are not. It's as simple as that. You want to claim it on a form, go ahead. It doesn't make it true.
You can't. Filipinos aren't listed under "Hispanic" on AMCAS. This is wrong and needs to be fixed.
I agree that it is sad that current Pinoy applicants are not given special consideration for medicine. Many of them are recruited based on economic factors, though. The fact that a disproportionate number of MD's from the Philippines are practicing means that parity for medicine is likely to remain for decades, however. If the number of homegrown applicants/matriculants remains low compared to the population (and if a more modest influx of MD's from the Philippines persists) we would reasonably need to remain vigilant regarding the persistence of parity.
I know a bunch!
Ok, but you don't have any actual mexican blood in you lol. Your situation isn't confusing at all unless you're delusional.
I was born in Mexico; Spanish was my first language.
Would've been smart to include that; you made it sound like you only sometimes look mexican hence the confusion.
You are right. That was an important bit of information Yorick. I will choose white, though, case closed.
According to the AAMC master file on practicing physicians, there are 14,785 IMG Filipino physicians practicing in the United States, making them the second largest group of IMGs practicing in the country. There are roughly 880,000 active physicians in the United States. That makes just the foreign born Filipino physicians 1.67% of the physician workforce, as compared to their being 1.078% of the US population. Even if we only include foreign born Filipinos, they are already ORM in medicine. Less ORM than Indian does not equal URM. And Filipinos are not considered Hispanic. Try and claim you're Hispanic and it will likely bite you in the ass once the interviewer realizes you are Filipino.
"This section provides detailed tables on race, ethnicity, age, sex, professional activity, specialty, and geography of practice area for physicians graduating from U.S. M.D.-granting medical schools. These data primarily are derived from the AAMC’s Minority Physician Database and other AAMC data sources, as well as data from the AMA Physician Masterfile."
"This section provides detailed tables on race, ethnicity, age, sex, professional activity, specialty, and geography of practice area for physicians graduating from U.S. M.D.-granting medical schools. These data primarily are derived from the AAMC’s Minority Physician Database and other AAMC data sources, as well as data from the AMA Physician Masterfile."
This report excludes the massive population of foreign-born Filipino physicians. The vast majority of Filipino-educated physicians that have come to the United States have been Filipino. I was considering medical school in the Philippines a few years back, and the number of white Americans that get educated in the Philippines is less than you can count on your fingers and toes each year. Most Americans that would go to the Philippines for their MD were second generation Filipinos. You can look up the data on the number of USIMGs that come from from each country yourself- the Philippines just isn't a popular place for non-Filipinos to go to.
http://www.ecfmg.org/resources/NRMP...atch-International-Medical-Graduates-2014.pdf
As to my "attack," it wasn't an attack, I was just trying to see why it was that you needed the URM edge so bad. Usually people that scramble for things like this have poor applications. Then things play out as follow: adcoms offer them an interview because they're a URM, they show up, and are obviously not a URM, then they end up getting rejected. A Filipino claiming to be Hispanic might be correct in the most technical sense of the term, but you're in the same boat as an Egyptian claiming to be African-American.
The diversity facts and figures report clearly states that it only includes US MD trained physicians, as has every diversity facts and figures report the AAMC has ever produced. As to U.S. citizens going to the Philippines for their education, that was never a big thing. There was a huge influx of IMGs from the Philippines from 1970-2000 that led to them being the second largest group of practicing IMGs in the United States. I've read a lot of AMA papers in the past on the IMG workforce and how critical of a role Filipinos played in serving the underserved over the years. It was actually brought up as an ethical issue in many papers, as we drained off so many physicians from the Philippine's health system that it, to this day, is damn near collapse. Now, eventually it is likely that as the Filipino IMG physicians of the past age and retire, Filipinos will become a URM group in regard to medicine, but that has not yet happened, so you aren't URM, get over it.
There was never a large industry of US students being educated in the Philippines. You literally made up a ridiculous fact and are asking me to prove your made up conjecture wrong. The Caribbean has always been the go to place for US students that couldn't get a spot in a US school to be educated, the Philippines was not. You can assume they are Filipino for the same reason you can assume (rightly so) that the vast majority of Indian IMGs are Indian. Filipinos aren't URM, and making up imaginary US grads training in the Philippines to account for the 15,000 practicing physicians that were educated in the Philippines doesn't change that. If even half of those 15,000 physicians were native Filipinos, you would be ORM. But the number is far greater than half.
