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Discussion in 'Step II' started by lmh14, 09.18.05.

  1. Transposony

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    Yes but READ MTB 2 instead not videos since you are weak in IM..
     
  2. Transposony

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    NBME 4 with extended feedback
     
  3. docman85

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    To update I just finish UWSA and made 236, so let's hope UWSA is the predictive but a long as I make >220
     
  4. NewYorkDoctors

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    there were three sections with only 42 questions. 2 drug ads (6 questions total) and one thesis (3 qusetions total)

    The ads used the same fictional name but applied it to different kinds of drugs. (vs the uWorld practice where they used real life drug ads)

    Half of the drug ad questions were testing simple concepts (Sensitivty, PPV, use of controls)

    the other half were just concepts that... let's say would be more apparent if one knew exactly how to read a paper... (and that's not me)

    which of the folowing roles would hte FDA most likely approve?
    what kind of study is this (most choices were not familiar ones from test prep)?
    which of the following claims would be most weakened if so and so were to be true?
     
  5. Dissected

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    Yea they asked some funky stuff about the drug ads. Some seemed like no-brainers but others left me going :eyebrow:
     
  6. FSU2013

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    Felt the same way. The drug ads were super easy, like middle school level, or left you asking what in the world they wanted. Seemed pretty polarized.
     
  7. HalladayWeekend

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    Test wasn't too bad. Definitely more straight forward than Step 1- the difficulty (around 10%) lies in trying to pick the best answer among usually 2 that could be reasonable (and stuff that is not stressed in any review source that I encountered or on the wards). Agree with the above about the drug abstract questions- they were either laughingly easy or I had no clue what they wanted. My exam did have a ton of odd sexual vignettes- I did lol at one in particular. Some of these NBME writers have sick minds : )
     
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    Ha, I wonder if they're based on real patients...
     
  9. whoknows2012

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    Took it today...

    Felt similarly to previous posters. Much more straightforward than step 1. 70-80% of questions were relativley easy while the other 20-30% were noticeably more difficult. I had such a disproportionate amount of peds on my test it was laughable. Medicine was heavily tested (obviously) and ob gyn too. Psych was weird much more difficult than uworld and involved a lot of guessing. Biostats and Epi werent too bad like 20ish questions including one drug study/research abstract that was part of a 3 question set that was pretty damn hard. Surgery was pretty straightforward. Overall I think I did ok. Aiming for 250+ and my qbank avg was 71% with 252 on Uwsa, 251. 258 and 267 and nbme 2, 3 and 4 respectively. Well see what happens. Good luck to anyone taking it this wk!
     
  10. smk9

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    I think I had the same question...
     
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    Anybody's permit links disappear this week? Cause mine sure didn't. I was hoping for a score release today :mad:

    I also just realized that it is a national holiday...further decreasing the odds of them releasing our scores.

    In any event, Happy 4th everybody!
     
  12. libihero

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    So I am going through UWorld for a second time, the first time was during my third year. I really don't remember the questions, as I actually did most of them during Internal Med back in November. At the moment, I have been averaging 70% since I started again, but when I took NBME 1 a week and a half ago I got a 210. Is the NBME more accurate of where I am, or should I feel good about getting in the 70s on UWorld?
     
  13. shan564

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    Even if you don't remember the individual questions from UW, you might remember the specific concepts that you learned from some of the questions that you got wrong, which would artificially inflate your score.

    If you haven't done the UWSA, you could try that.
     
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    Bah taking it tomorrow. Really wondering if I'm going to last nine hours without some serious burnout. Any tips from people who already took it?
     
  15. FSU2013

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    Bring enough coffee to last the day and don't drink too much early. Snack throughout the day. I brought 4 pb&js so I'd have enough protein for the day and a bunch of fruit snacks so I'd have enough quick carbs. I took two aleve in the morning in case I got a headache.

    Just be prepared and pace yourself. Honestly, adrenaline took me most of the way. You'll be fine. Good luck.
     
  16. seva86

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    see quoted post
     
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    update - so I just took NBME 2 and scored 500/230. I'm relieved I'm (finally) within passing range, but bummed because my Step 1 was in the 230s so I'd like to at least earn in the 240s on the real thing. I'm about 2 weeks out from my exam...is there still time to improve? I'm going to do a UWSA this weekend.
     
  18. NewYorkDoctors

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    sorry not to be a jerk, but protein in PBJ? If you have some special kind of bread or peanut butter, please fill me in. I know they have those high protein, low card artisan breads out there.
     
  19. disorder

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    isn't that what you want?
     
  20. FSU2013

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    I'm confused......peanut butter has plenty of protein to get you through the test....what's the problem?
     
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    There's a fair amount of protein in peanut butter isn't there? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
     
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    Anyone get the Biostats subject review on UW and if so, is it helpful? Seems like bio stats is pretty heavily tested...
     
  23. libihero

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    Ya thats why I'm confused... If I'm solid with 70% of UWorld "concepts", shouldn't that translate?
     
  24. NewYorkDoctors

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    Was that really necessary? Anyway, I'll say I should not have sounded so sarcastic or mean... (though any emotion attributed to text is usually based on the reader's perspective)

    Anyway, 1tbspn of peanut butter has about 4 grams of protein. I guess it's just a matter of perspective regarding if that's a lot or little. There's far more fat in peanut butter than protein (albeit nonsaturated fats)


    Anyway, back to more relevant discussions

    The OP's comments about proper nutrition for the test were well founded though
     
  25. ASAPRocky

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    what kind of nutrition was asked? Like Vitamins? Daily requirements?
     
  26. disorder

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    lol. i sure hope those "concepts" translate.
     
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    No. My apologies.
     
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    Took it yesterday and I have to say it wasn't as hard as I was expecting. With that being said, it felt exactly like the UWSA (hopefully it will turn out the way that one did), but I made a TON of mistakes on some of the easy questions and God know how many of the harder ones.

    On a side note, has anyone done well on practice tests and failed the real deal? Just curious, all I ever see on here is people making 260+ on everything...
     
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    Print permit link just disappeared...
     
  30. ndocy

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    if your permit link disappears does that mean your score is going to be released that wednesday? what is a good time to generally start checking.
     
  31. BrainDoc2985

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    Hey guys,

    I've been reading the forums extensively and had a question for people. I am on my second pass of Uworld. First pass, I averaged a 68%. Second pass, I'm averaging 93% and will finish it by this wednesday. I take Step 2 CK next Friday. I am also reading through Step 2 Secrets.

    My question is would you recommend doing a UWSA or NBME between now and the exam or just continue what I'm doing: review my notes from uworld and secrets?

    I scored very well on Step 1 and am hoping/needing to replicate/better that score

    Thanks for the help!
     
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    I think it's safe to assume it means they will be released sometime on Wednesday morning....but you better believe I'll be checking in periodically before then :D

    It depends on what you are looking for. Doing an NBME would assess your general knowledge in each area but would not be that useful as a teaching tool. Supposedly the scores are pretty predictive as well -- so if you're looking for peace of mind it might help. I needed peace of mind and it reassured me that I was ready.

    UWSA is a good general assessment and it has a ton more UW style questions that have the full explanations. It would be more time consuming, but if you are looking for more of a learning-intensive activity it would be more useful than an NBME in my opinion. I would venture to guess that this would probably be the way to go since your test isn't till next friday..just hammer it out in half a day and spend a couple hours going over the answers. It was very helpful and quite a confidence boost.
     
  33. BrainDoc2985

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    Thanks! 1 more question. I've seen posts on both the UWSA 1 and 2. is one better than the other?
     
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    Hmm..When I took it there was only one form for Step II CK. So if they published another one I couldn't say.
     
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    That's for Step 1. For Step 2, there's only one UWSA.
     
  36. ASAPRocky

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    Finished.

    The advertisement questions sucked. Terrible.
     
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    My "print preview" hasn't disappeared yet... I suppose that means I wait another week. :(
     
  38. Scean

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    Strange, mine is gone and I took it the 20th
     
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    My print permit link is still there and I took mine on June 19
     
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    my permit is still there and i took it on july 9. WHAT THE HELL!?!?!
     
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    June 18 for me. Oh well. I guess we're continuing to wait. :(
     
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    You should call the NBME and ask what the hold up is
     
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    Scored in the mid-250's...I am a very happy camper right now.

    Long story short... USMLE World is where the money is!!!

    NBME self assessment was within 4 points of my real score
     
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    Had one month on a pretty chill rotation (3 full days of clinic a week) plus 10-days completely off.

    My take on the resources I used...

    Uworld: Arguably the best resource around. I went through it 1x, but I was careful to read every explanation (even the ones that I got right). I made a google doc that contained any info that I wanted to remember for later on, and I reviewed the doc nightly before I went to bed. I am a faster typer than I am a writer, so I opted for digital notes. It is true that writing helps me to remember things better, but with the time I saved I had more repetitions through the material so overall it worked out much better.

    Master the boards: Good resource and will fill some gaps that UWORLD doesn't cover. I wish I had spent a little bit more time on this one. If you use it, save it for the last ~2 weeks. I only went through it once. Be cognizant of the fact that this book has some errors.

    Green Book (Sabatine's Medicine): Use this as a reference if you are unsure how to manage a disease. It definitely helped for a few questions. Don't read it cover to cover unless you have lots of time.

    NMS surgery: The trauma section is well-written. (which is what the USMLE tests). Skip the other sections...you're wasting your time.

    Kaplan Notes: I used only the OB notes. They were good, but took a long time to get through. The medicine notes seem good, but if you're getting MTB, then don't bother.

    Step up to Step2: Don't get this book. It has numerous errors, is very superficial in the topics it covers, and it will not prepare you. It has so many flaws that I am dubious that DIT can salvage this book. I spent a day on this before it went into the trash.

    Step up to medicine: I converted this book into notes for my medicine rotation (more on that below).

    First Aid for Psych: I read this book because it helped me get a high score on the psych shelf. I think it's a good book, but it may not be perfect.

    Class notes: I saved my notes for all of my shelf exams (peds, medicine, OB, surgery, psych, neuro) and read through them several times before step II. These notes were comprised of all the recommended resources for each of the subject shelf exams. I definitely recommend keeping your notes and looking over them at least once before the exam. It helped.

    Test Subjects
    Biostats: Know your biostats inside and out. I don't think Uworld gives you enough exposure. Se, Sp, PPV, NPV, ARR, RRR, Hazard Ratio, Odds ratio, Relative Risk, NNT, NNH should be learned cold.

    The drug ads: reminded me of the MCAT: read the passage, answer some Q's. Most of these Q's have you apply your knowledge of biostats.


    Good luck!:luck:
     
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    so if its not up by now no dice eh? another week it is
     
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    Yay! I used FA for the non-medicine stuff (Psychiatry, Peds, and OBGYN) and basically relied on USMLE World for IM topics. I went through World once and took my sweet time (read those explanations!) then reviewed the questions I answered incorrectly.

    I didn't use a book for IM, but from the little I used FA to look up some topics, I would say Step Up to Medicine is better.
     
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    Anyone take it June 16?? Def thought I'd get it back today. Nothing yet.
     
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    anyone took the test on June 19th and got the score today ?
     
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    Took it on the 19th, no scores yet either.
     
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