rosalind franklin (chicago medical school) - on probation

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so i just got my secondary back from them today and the cover letter mentions that they are on probation from the LCME. they mention a few reaasons but anyone know any more info on this? anyone not applying cuz of this?
 
so are they starting to send out 2ndaries???
 
Here's an article from Chicago Business Journal:
http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/printStory.pl?news_id=12845

Local med school on probation

By Jeremy Mullman
June 15, 2004
The Chicago Medical School said Tuesday that it is on probation with the body that accredits U.S. medical schools.

The school, which has 750 students, is one of four medical science programs at North Chicago-based Rosalind Franklin University of Medicine and Science. Last September, it was inspected by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education, the accrediting body of the Assn. of American Medical Colleges and the American Medical Assn.

After the site visit, the committee raised several concerns about the school, including its dependence on student tuition and the stability of its faculty leadership.

According to a Chicago Medical School spokeswoman, the school on Monday received official notice that it has two years to fix the problems. If the school is unable to do so, it could lose its accreditation, meaning its graduates would be unable to take medical boards or enroll in residency programs.

The spokeswoman says the school had been making some changes, even before inspectors came to campus. ?Basically, we got a slap on the wrist,? says the spokeswoman, who predicted the school would be back in good graces within a year. ?We?re still accredited.?

Attempts to reach a spokesman for the Liaison Committee on Medical Education were unsuccessful.

Until March, Rosalind Franklin University had been called Finch University School of Medicine.
 
This pathetic medical school needs to be shot and put out of its proverbial misery.

I can think of a few others who arent worthy to claim the institutional title of "medical school." I'm looking at YOU Meharry, Howard, E Tennessee State, and a few DO schools.
 
MacGyver said:
This pathetic medical school needs to be shot and put out of its proverbial misery.

I can think of a few others who arent worthy to claim the institutional title of "medical school." I'm looking at YOU Meharry, Howard, E Tennessee State, and a few DO schools.
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It's a good thing no one cares what you think, MacGyver.

I can't wait for your response. I'm sure you'll give me a good piece of your mind.
 
So who wins in a fight? Macgyver or Einstein? I'm going with Macgyver because Einstein is too theoretical, and it's really hard to theoretically kick someone's ass.
 
does rosalind screen??? and for those who received the secondary is it through email or snail mail??? thanks for any info.
 
jp2004 said:
does rosalind screen??? and for those who received the secondary is it through email or snail mail??? thanks for any info.
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no screening. application is a PDF that was sent in an email.

Jason
 
evines said:
So who wins in a fight? Macgyver or Einstein? I'm going with Macgyver because Einstein is too theoretical, and it's really hard to theoretically kick someone's ass.
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No fighting. I'm a pacifist.
 
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seriously though, do you guys think being on probation will potentially hurt (if the school doesn't get off probation and is forced to close) or help (probation forces the school to make improvements) future students who attend there? if i had known about its probation status before submitting my amcas, i probably would have spent my $30 on a different school. now that i have the secondary, i wonder if i should just mail in the $95 and see what happens (it helps that there are no essays to write either ...) or keep my 95 bucks for something else.
 
I have a friend who just started his first year at RF. Basically, it's a financial problem, and the idea that they don't do much research and aren't affiliated with any hospital, so their funds mainly come from student tuition. However, they still have a great staff and you will still get an excellent medical education from them (like any other US allo. school). My friend said that everything is going well and the school will be off probation, and everything will be back to normal, etc. If worst comes to worst though, all the current students will be transferred to other med schools.

It's actually one of my top choices, I love Chicago.
 
MCP Hahneman was on probation for financial reasons too... although they wound up keeping their certification they still wound up having to reorganize under chapter 11 and change their name to drexel... during that time, from what I heard, their third and fourth year students had a hard time getting clinical rotations because they lost some of their affiliate relationships with local area hospitals... just something to keep in mind... I'm still going to send my secondary in to Rosalind franklin, but they are my absolute last choice (assuming I'm lucky enough to have a choice)... 😀
 
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seriously though, do you guys think being on probation will potentially hurt (if the school doesn't get off probation and is forced to close) or help (probation forces the school to make improvements) future students who attend there? if i had known about its probation status before submitting my amcas, i probably would have spent my $30 on a different school. now that i have the secondary, i wonder if i should just mail in the $95 and see what happens (it helps that there are no essays to write either ...) or keep my 95 bucks for something else.
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Stay away from this one. While it may be likely they will get off probation, there is certainly no guarantee about it. In which case, if you attend and they lose their accredidation, you will have to transfer to another school.

But keep in mind that transferring is not as easy for medical school as it is for undergrad schools. You can usually not transfer into any year except MS2 (and sometimes only into MS2 if you have already completed your first two years already...repeating your second year.) Plus, transfer spots are both limited and competitive and trying to get into another school coming from a school who just had their accredidation yanked would be a little harder.

Spend your $95 elsewhere. And do you wonder why there are no essays? They really don't want any more information from you other than your AMCAS, it's just an easy way for them to make easy money off people who are just going to "see what happens." Here's what will happen...you'll be $95 poorer.
 
ColoMD said:
Spend your $95 elsewhere. And do you wonder why there are no essays? They really don't want any more information from you other than your AMCAS, it's just an easy way for them to make easy money off people who are just going to "see what happens." Here's what will happen...you'll be $95 poorer.
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rosalind franklin isn't the only school that doesn't request any additional essays but still requires an application feel. as far as acceptances are concerned, isn't rosalind frankling slightly easier to get into? and does anyone think this probation status will negatively impact the amount of applications they receive/acceptance rates?
 
Yeah I imagine that it will receive fewer applications this cycle. I'm considering applying for that reason, but I'm still debating it because it seems like a big gamble.
 
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