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I took it to mean that she was getting all "Oh, she killed me" and wanted to point out that others voted for her too. However, I guess she seems to be now openly vouching for me in an albiet strange way....I think?

nah she said to NOT kill you, as others have done to her

others meaning us (well not me. I didn't vote for her)

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There are a lot of ways to handle disclosure of investigative results, When I had a role, I investigated leader first, then my own group so I knew who to trust that I could communicate with. I've actually never gotten an investigative item in any game, haha. But I'd agree that people who had items should really not hold off on at least partial disclosure of results. Don't go naming people's roles (unless they're a wolf then by all means :smuggrin:) but at least like "not evil" would be nice...

Of course there's always a chance the investigation fails or says the wrong thing or whatever, nothing's infallible, but it's to nobody's benefit to keep information until you die.

I definitely agree, and me saying investigate me doesn't mean every night. But enough to deter the wolves from converting me (if conversion may even occur in this game). Force them to convert someone below the radar. But yea please give info out to at least someone (it's a good idea to do 2 people if you can in case the one you talk to is indeed a wolf) to keep the info from dying with you. In the LotR game so much good info was lost :(. And I know everyone wants to make it until the end, but whats the use if you make it to the end and the villagers lose anyway haha
 
WTF, if you were investigated but don't know by whom, I'd hedge my bets it was Miss Keller and she used her diary to give us the results of her investigation post-mortem.

Also, Katie8, if you can talk to silenced/muted people, did you even attempt to get in touch with alaskandream or krist? Or did you choose not to use the ability in the same flippant way you chose to shoot TW?

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not convinced.
 
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Alright y'all. I'm off to bed. I will deal with your PMs about items in the morning.

Just a reminder that night ends at 11pm EST regardless of if we say closed or not (unless SOV comes on and says otherwise). Please be patient with...well the patient and my Scottish dwelling self on timing/responses!

Thanks!!
 
Actually, I am pretty amazed at the turn of events.

krist was not the person who PMed me (think about it, why would I vote to have her lynched if she had been the one to contact me), but evidently she also investigated me. I think we have multiple types of seers, because the other person who contacted me knew only my whereabouts (ie, if I was home) not what my role was. I guess everyone wanted to seer little old me.....am I that suspicious? :smuggrin:
 
Actually, I am pretty amazed at the turn of events.

krist was not the person who PMed me (think about it, why would I vote to have her lynched if she had been the one to contact me), but evidently she also investigated me. I think we have multiple types of seers, because the other person who contacted me knew only my whereabouts (ie, if I was home) not what my role was. I guess everyone wanted to seer little old me.....am I that suspicious? :smuggrin:

Yea i agree on multiple type of seers. Which is why the item I had gave me DVM's role. And maybe another type of investigation would have resulted in the Marshall of France coming up.

On the note of lynching though, I think DVM is the best bet for now? If someone wants to investigate tonight then we can find out if Nelson has truth to it? If Marshall of France comes up though then I think the Encyclopedia is a valid source. If Nelson comes up then maybe it needs to be passed to the correct person for an accurate investigation?
 
I'm still unsure about whether krist's statement and your PM are unrelated though. I imagine Helen Keller had to be able to communicate with somebody so maybe they could go through another person? I don't know, it's only been one night so hard to say that it's enough time for a game of telephone lol
 
WTF, if you were investigated but don't know by whom, I'd hedge my bets it was Miss Keller and she used her diary to give us the results of her investigation post-mortem.

Also, Katie8, if you can talk to silenced/muted people, did you even attempt to get in touch with alaskandream or krist? Or did you choose not to use the ability in the same flippant way you chose to shoot TW?

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not convinced.

I sent LIS a message the first night. Since I had the post-pad I could only use emoticons. So LIS is the only one who can corroborate this (that yes he received my emoticon). I can only send messages at night so I had no way of knowing to send it to Krist last night
 
WTF, if you were investigated but don't know by whom, I'd hedge my bets it was Miss Keller and she used her diary to give us the results of her investigation post-mortem.

Also, Katie8, if you can talk to silenced/muted people, did you even attempt to get in touch with alaskandream or krist? Or did you choose not to use the ability in the same flippant way you chose to shoot TW?

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not convinced.

And for the record, I can send ONE message through the mod a night. This is only the second night.
 
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Also, Katie8, if you can talk to silenced/muted people, did you even attempt to get in touch with alaskandream or krist? Or did you choose not to use the ability in the same flippant way you chose to shoot TW?
I don't think I'm being clear enough, I can send a message to one player a night as the "communicator" should the person I send my message to be "muted" they can send a message back to me through the mod. That was all I meant in the post about finding Helen Keller and possibly being able to communicate with her. I don't know if silenced and muted are the same thing.

I give up on explaining about the musket. Either lynch me for it or get over it. If I'm just going to have a grudge held against me then I might as well be lynched. Don't think i will be coming forward about any items anymore.
 
I don't think I'm being clear enough, I can send a message to one player a night as the "communicator" should the person I send my message to be "muted" they can send a message back to me through the mod. That was all I meant in the post about finding Helen Keller and possibly being able to communicate with her. I don't know if silenced and muted are the same thing.

I give up on explaining about the musket. Either lynch me for it or get over it. If I'm just going to have a grudge held against me then I might as well be lynched. Don't think i will be coming forward about any items anymore.

Well, I for one got over it... (even though I dont agree about shooting me first thing!), just seems like people are trying to confuse others by stirring the pot.
 
Well, I for one got over it... (even though I dont agree about shooting me first thing!), just seems like people are trying to confuse others by stirring the pot.

Yea I think at this level in the game Katie shouldn't have silenced, but I don;t think it makes her a wolf. Like I said in my first post back after being unsilenced, with all the villagers having roles, silencing someone with a useful role could be harmful. I would try to wait until you have a hunch at least (like DVM may be a good thought to silence tonight).

In the LotR game SOV used the sword the first night and got crap for it but he wasn't a wolf. Katie did the same thing.
 
Wow that was a lot to catch up on! Looks like you were very busy while you were not on the thread AKdream! :thumbup: It looks like DVM may be our best bet for tomorrow's lynch, but I will wait for more info come morning - and if she ends up being innocent then AK gets the lynch next.

I am too tired to fully comprehend everything else that has happened, so I will check in in the morning. :sleep:
 
Wow that was a lot to catch up on! Looks like you were very busy while you were not on the thread AKdream! :thumbup: It looks like DVM may be our best bet for tomorrow's lynch, but I will wait for more info come morning - and if she ends up being innocent then AK gets the lynch next.

I am too tired to fully comprehend everything else that has happened, so I will check in in the morning. :sleep:

On this note I'm slightly worried about misinformation (not enough to change my vote, but it crossed my mind. So if someone wants to investigate me please do :thumbup: but protection for the night would be great!
 
Damn Hellen K! Way to give us hints from the grave!:thumbup:
That was a lot to catch up on. Good work alaskandream! (If we can trust the encylopedia that is). Looks like DVM is the best bet for now, but I am also gonna wait for her to defend herself. Hopefully I don't fall asleep on my computer... the sun and some Jameson has made me :sleep:.
 
On this note I'm slightly worried about misinformation (not enough to change my vote, but it crossed my mind. So if someone wants to investigate me please do :thumbup: but protection for the night would be great!

I really think that if DVM ends up not dead it's because of misinformation, not because you're making it up. DVM saying that she had "something to do and would respond later" makes me think that she was just buying herself time to think of a good explanation. Your actions are just too risky to make me think you're a wolf.
 
Not that it wouldn't be a good idea to investigate you, just that I suspect you'll come back clean.
 
I'm thinking that DVMDream sounds like a good bet for now, though a bit suspicious that she would want to be elected if she were evil. Most of the elected officials get investigated pretty fast. We should probably see what happens overnight as well.
 
I'm thinking that DVMDream sounds like a good bet for now, though a bit suspicious that she would want to be elected if she were evil. Most of the elected officials get investigated pretty fast. We should probably see what happens overnight as well.

I agree this is a little strange, but perhaps because of her role she wasn't sure if she was going to be good or evil at the beginning. Also possible is that she was betting on the fact the fact that we generally assume that the evil don't want to be elected. Though that would be a bit more risky since there is justification there.
 
I really think that if DVM ends up not dead it's because of misinformation, not because you're making it up. DVM saying that she had "something to do and would respond later" makes me think that she was just buying herself time to think of a good explanation. Your actions are just too risky to make me think you're a wolf.

Yes. I had to go to work, I am not allowed on the internet while I am at work. would you like a picture of my torn up arm and swollen finger from my cat bite earlier this morning. I am now driving home from work. I will explain my role as both nelson and vp when I get home, it takes me 30 minutes to get home. I am actually going to be pissed if this **** from the encyclopedia gets me lynched, I have been looking forward to playing this game and I am not stupid enough to want to be leader if I were a wolf, I think you guys would give me more credit than that. All I can say is hopefully the information I give you guys when I get home helps out the villagers, even if it doesn't prevent my lynching. And I will be looking forward to akdreams lynching during the following day cycle.
 
I'm thinking that DVMDream sounds like a good bet for now, though a bit suspicious that she would want to be elected if she were evil. Most of the elected officials get investigated pretty fast. We should probably see what happens overnight as well.

Yea but remember upon investigation she would come back as Marshall of France (doesn't seem bad), only upon another investigation would she come back as head of Vichy France (bad). This could have protected DVM and getting more power is useful for the wolves.

I don;t think this gives anything away, but does everyone have a specific person as a name? or does someone have a role that says something like Marshall of France. I think DVM is actually Petain (head of Vichy France). Just a weird thing I noticed if an investigation came back as a non specific name such as Marshall of France.
 
Yea but remember upon investigation she would come back as Marshall of France (doesn't seem bad), only upon another investigation would she come back as head of Vichy France (bad). This could have protected DVM and getting more power is useful for the wolves.

I don;t think this gives anything away, but does everyone have a specific person as a name? or does someone have a role that says something like Marshall of France. I think DVM is actually Petain (head of Vichy France). Just a weird thing I noticed if an investigation came back as a non specific name such as Marshall of France.

I am not a specific person, nor do I have a title (like Marshall of France or President of wherever rather than a specific person) I just have a role.
 
I am not a specific person, nor do I have a title (like Marshall of France or President of wherever rather than a specific person) I just have a role.

Good to know, since I have a specific role and the only other person we know of was Helen Keller (a specific person)
 
Good to know, since I have a specific role and the only other person we know of was Helen Keller (a specific person)

Woops, scratch that, I definitely have a name... Apparently I skipped the name bit and jumped right to my ability. So yeah, continue with your theory, guess I should look up who I am haha.
 
Soldiers know 2 things very well, how to wait, and how to kill. This group of soldiers had to wait patiently for a patient God to add enlightenment to their little world. Things sure get awfully confusing awfully quickly. But when a soldier needs to kill, it is done quickly, accurately, and following the chain of command. Presented with the dilemma of unearthing evil in their midst, they did not hesitate and chose the time honored ritual of "lynch the quiet gal". Every knows the mousy girl is always a danger to .... well not soldiers exactly, but surely someone!

So the soldiers lined up one-by-one to escort this meek, quiet girl, who had not said a single offensive word, in fact had not uttered a word at all to the lynch rope. With a nod from the politicians, and with no intervention for her on their behalf, Krist, Helen Keller the deaf mute, the erstwhile diarist, had taken her last breath.

There was significant mutterings from the crowd. There was something cowardly about the whole spectacle. Since when did brave men and women hang whimpering girls? Others thought some kind of "fix" was in with dirty elections "when the cat is away". Many had forgotten any reason why she was here at all, and then the name of candidates to list was repeated ad nauseum. Well, justice was swift, and direct, but it didn't "feel" like justice to any of them.

There are 26 players left, you have until 11pmEST to send PMs.

North American
1- Time Warner
2- DVMDream, Vice President
3- AKDream
4-emiloo4
5- kaydubs
6 -PetPony

Europe
1- wldlfstdnt
2-krist Helen Keller, the deaf mute diarist
3-kakurubird
4-WTF
5-DocEspana
6 -Sooprnova

Mount Olympus - Home of the IMMORTAL NUTMEG
1- cuitlamiztli
2- sheepdogpsu
3-nyanko
4-bbeventer Judge .Isaac Charles Parker, the hanging judge ..
5 -dyachei, CEO


Asia
1- NStarz
2- wildcatj
3- Katie8
4- Samoa
5 - LissaRae06

Africa
1- Orca2011
2- zanydogz
3- LIS, President
4- Devyn
5- FTB

Carbon - Balrog.

Initial Game Description: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=12396586&postcount=1
Political election: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/show...&postcount=139
Night 1 result http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=12398489&postcount=177\
Day 2 lynch result http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=12402038&postcount=529
 
Yea but remember upon investigation she would come back as Marshall of France (doesn't seem bad), only upon another investigation would she come back as head of Vichy France (bad). This could have protected DVM and getting more power is useful for the wolves.

I don;t think this gives anything away, but does everyone have a specific person as a name? or does someone have a role that says something like Marshall of France. I think DVM is actually Petain (head of Vichy France). Just a weird thing I noticed if an investigation came back as a non specific name such as Marshall of France.
According to wikipedia Petain was actually Marshal Phillipe Petain so Marshall of France would make sense. Vichy France collaborated with the Axis Powers so I'm guessing that if DVM turns out to be Petain (or Vichy France) then we could be dealing with all of the axis powers which would mean 7 wolves (Germany, Italy, Japan, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, and Bulgaria)
 
FYI, if you ever need to find a specific result, the easiest thing is to return to the first post of the thread, where i continue to update with new links.
 
According to wikipedia Petain was actually Marshal Phillipe Petain so Marshall of France would make sense. Vichy France collaborated with the Axis Powers so I'm guessing that if DVM turns out to be Petain (or Vichy France) then we could be dealing with all of the axis powers which would mean 7 wolves (Germany, Italy, Japan, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, and Bulgaria)

That was somewhat along the lines of what I was thinking (I just don't know my history super well :p Plus it did specifically mention Hitler in what I got in my message, reporting to Hitler. And even if she is just a pawn, She was said to be counted as evil.
 
On this note I'm slightly worried about misinformation (not enough to change my vote, but it crossed my mind. So if someone wants to investigate me please do :thumbup: but protection for the night would be great!

On another note, if it was Wikipedia I'd be suspicious. But not an encyclopedia.

Possibly the encyclopedia could be more accurate than a seer role as we know some people can avoid being investigated or provide false identities.
 
According to wikipedia Petain was actually Marshal Phillipe Petain so Marshall of France would make sense. Vichy France collaborated with the Axis Powers so I'm guessing that if DVM turns out to be Petain (or Vichy France) then we could be dealing with all of the axis powers which would mean 7 wolves (Germany, Italy, Japan, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, and Bulgaria)

Wow. Just caught up with all of this. I was trying to follow it in my meeting but this encyclopedia stuff hurt my head.

Realistically, huge chance dvm is wolf scum, or wolf adjacent scum. You dont fake stuff like that. Small chance Alaska is a low ranking wolf and dvm is an extremely useful role so lynching her (perhaps shes wolf proof) is worth sacrificing himself a round later. I think those are the two realistic situations we are dealing with.

More thoughts after I eat.
 
Seven? Seven wolves in a game of 27 people would be hellishly hard for the villagers....I really don't think SOV would be that mean....

That definitely seems like a lot... isn't it usually five? :scared:
 
I feel like this is going to be somewhat of an educational game....and i dig it :D
 
Ok I am home.

It seems weird to me that everyone has mentioned having a named role and the encylopedia comes back with Vichy of France.

I was given my role as Nelson Mandella and I instantly looked up who this person was because I wanted to be sure that he was indeed a good person. When I discovered who he was I decided that he was a good person so I figured that I should volunteer to be a leader. I would not be stupid and do this if I thought for even a moment that Nelson could be seen as a bad person. I really am not that dumb. My role allows me to still function while I am in jail (look up Nelson Mandella, you will see how long he was imprisoned for, so it makes sense, and no I did not randomly come up with this role because I mentioned it soon after AKDream came out with his results). I suggest that anyone who has the power to put someone in jail to put me in jail.... then you will know for sure if I am telling the truth.

I so badly want to reveal what the VP role does that would really make AKDream look suspicious but if I do that, it could really benefit the wolves in the future and I want the villagers to win. I am waiting to see if the President and CEO agree with my revealing this information about the VP or not. They both know what the information is so if something should happen to me, somebody knows. Hopefully I can trust them as there has not been enough time to investigate everyone.

I am so tempted to just reveal the information about the VP role but I don't want it in public for the wolves to discover. :bang:
 
Well, anybody could have the VP position if they were voted in for it. So it's not an anti wolf position.
 
Night is closed. Results pending. Again, these are complicated so be patient.

For the 1 person who has an item and hasn't let me know what to do with it... I will give you until 11pm to decide. It won't affect the outcome of tonight's action whatever you do. Still send your pm to me and S&S.

And by the way, I am happy to see some of you learning a little history in this game. It's not so dry when your life/death in WW depends on it (a little).

Again.. If you get results before I post.. Keep it to yourself, or I will silence you permanently.

last note... dead players do not discuss the game until it is over. As you can see with Krist, death does not always end involvement in one of my games (as I am sure LissaRae also remembers well from the dog sanctuary game).
 
Ok I am home.

It seems weird to me that everyone has mentioned having a named role and the encylopedia comes back with Vichy of France.

I was given my role as Nelson Mandella and I instantly looked up who this person was because I wanted to be sure that he was indeed a good person. When I discovered who he was I decided that he was a good person so I figured that I should volunteer to be a leader. I would not be stupid and do this if I thought for even a moment that Nelson could be seen as a bad person. I really am not that dumb. My role allows me to still function while I am in jail (look up Nelson Mandella, you will see how long he was imprisoned for, so it makes sense, and no I did not randomly come up with this role because I mentioned it soon after AKDream came out with his results). I suggest that anyone who has the power to put someone in jail to put me in jail.... then you will know for sure if I am telling the truth.

I so badly want to reveal what the VP role does that would really make AKDream look suspicious but if I do that, it could really benefit the wolves in the future and I want the villagers to win. I am waiting to see if the President and CEO agree with my revealing this information about the VP or not. They both know what the information is so if something should happen to me, somebody knows. Hopefully I can trust them as there has not been enough time to investigate everyone.

I am so tempted to just reveal the information about the VP role but I don't want it in public for the wolves to discover. :bang:

statistically speaking:
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Well, anybody could have the VP position if they were voted in for it. So it's not an anti wolf position.

No....its not. But there is something about this position that would benefit the wolves should they find out about it. Which actually would make AKDream look suspicious with his revelation from the encyclopedia, but again if the wolves find out about it....it is a HUGE benefit for them to have someone in this position, which is why I do not want to reveal it on the public forum, but I will if I have to.
 
Ok I am home.

It seems weird to me that everyone has mentioned having a named role and the encylopedia comes back with Vichy of France.

I was given my role as Nelson Mandella and I instantly looked up who this person was because I wanted to be sure that he was indeed a good person. When I discovered who he was I decided that he was a good person so I figured that I should volunteer to be a leader. I would not be stupid and do this if I thought for even a moment that Nelson could be seen as a bad person. I really am not that dumb. My role allows me to still function while I am in jail (look up Nelson Mandella, you will see how long he was imprisoned for, so it makes sense, and no I did not randomly come up with this role because I mentioned it soon after AKDream came out with his results). I suggest that anyone who has the power to put someone in jail to put me in jail.... then you will know for sure if I am telling the truth.

I so badly want to reveal what the VP role does that would really make AKDream look suspicious but if I do that, it could really benefit the wolves in the future and I want the villagers to win. I am waiting to see if the President and CEO agree with my revealing this information about the VP or not. They both know what the information is so if something should happen to me, somebody knows. Hopefully I can trust them as there has not been enough time to investigate everyone.

I am so tempted to just reveal the information about the VP role but I don't want it in public for the wolves to discover. :bang:

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I give up....

I don't care because I will probably be lynched anyway then you guys can kill AKDream when you realize I am telling the truth.

The Vice President role is ceremonial and therefore can not be investigated because there would be nothing to find...

There you go. Now you know what that is dangerous in wolf hands.​
 
I am seriously not trying to make fun, but how do you not know who Nelson Mandela is? Have you at least seen Invictus?
 
Ok I am home.

It seems weird to me that everyone has mentioned having a named role and the encylopedia comes back with Vichy of France.

I was given my role as Nelson Mandella and I instantly looked up who this person was because I wanted to be sure that he was indeed a good person. When I discovered who he was I decided that he was a good person so I figured that I should volunteer to be a leader. I would not be stupid and do this if I thought for even a moment that Nelson could be seen as a bad person. I really am not that dumb. My role allows me to still function while I am in jail (look up Nelson Mandella, you will see how long he was imprisoned for, so it makes sense, and no I did not randomly come up with this role because I mentioned it soon after AKDream came out with his results). I suggest that anyone who has the power to put someone in jail to put me in jail.... then you will know for sure if I am telling the truth.

I so badly want to reveal what the VP role does that would really make AKDream look suspicious but if I do that, it could really benefit the wolves in the future and I want the villagers to win. I am waiting to see if the President and CEO agree with my revealing this information about the VP or not. They both know what the information is so if something should happen to me, somebody knows. Hopefully I can trust them as there has not been enough time to investigate everyone.

I am so tempted to just reveal the information about the VP role but I don't want it in public for the wolves to discover. :bang:

You didn't know who Nelson Mandella was? :nono:
 
I give up....

I don't care because I will probably be lynched anyway then you guys can kill AKDream when you realize I am telling the truth.

The Vice President role is ceremonial and therefore can not be investigated because there would be nothing to find...

There you go. Now you know what that is dangerous in wolf hands.​

So your saying he made ALL that up? That the encyclopedia doesn't exist?
 
I give up....

I don't care because I will probably be lynched anyway then you guys can kill AKDream when you realize I am telling the truth.

The Vice President role is ceremonial and therefore can not be investigated because there would be nothing to find...

There you go. Now you know what that is dangerous in wolf hands.​

So it's dangerous because a wolf could take purposefully take the place and be undetectable? This doesn't prove your innocence or make Alaska suspicious. I don't see a way he could know what your role as VP means, so how could he benefit from it?
 
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