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Feel like this needs to be made since there haven't been any posts in the other threads as of late.
Anyone interested?
Anyone interested?
Tufts MBS 2013-2014
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Graduated 2011
cGPA 3.3, sGPA 3.5, MCAT 11V/10B/8Q = 29P (gonna retake sometime in mid 2013)
Have been working as a Research Associate since graduating and published
Getting EMT certified in a few weeks and gonna try to find a ER tech job
Volunteer experience in medical reserve corps and starting work with Camillus House
Some shadowing, gonna do a lot more in the next few months
Have been taking classes since graduation to complete some prereqs I missed (A's in orgo 2, B in biochem :-/ signed up for microbio and immunology and anatomy for next semester)
Chances??
Graduated 2011
cGPA 3.3, sGPA 3.5, MCAT 11V/10B/8Q = 29P (gonna retake sometime in mid 2013)
Have been working as a Research Associate since graduating and published
Getting EMT certified in a few weeks and gonna try to find a ER tech job
Volunteer experience in medical reserve corps and starting work with Camillus House
Some shadowing, gonna do a lot more in the next few months
Have been taking classes since graduation to complete some prereqs I missed (A's in orgo 2, B in biochem :-/ signed up for microbio and immunology and anatomy for next semester)
Chances??
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I'm currently in this program with a 3.3 and 30 MCAT with a MUCH lower science GPA, so I think your chances are good. Apply as soon as you're SURE this is the route you want to go. They only give you like 2 weeks to decide.
Finished with last exams of semester today so I'll be happy to answer questions about Fall if I remember to log in. You can take all those courses to help your GPA and prepare yourself if you want, (micro, immuno are in fall and anatomy is in spring) but I'm not sure if you need to kill yourself before even getting in here. The MBS will do it for you, lol, j/k...maybe. It's probably more important to learn what you can do better, what did you do in org. vs. what you didn't/weren't able to do in biochemistry? I got a C in undergraduate Biochemistry from 5+ years ago and performed superbly in the MBS Biochemistry.
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I am definitely interested! I applied this past cycle for dental and haven't heard back from any schools yet 
so I'm looking into the next best thing! Any pre-dents?!
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Thanks for the reply, I forgot about logging in and checking too haha. Biochem was a let down since I messed up on one of the early exams, changed my study habits but just couldn't recover after, missed an A by two percentage points but the experience will definitely come in handy to kill Biochem in med school.
As for all the classes before, I just want to be prepared even though undergrad classes can't really compare to med school, but any prior knowledge would be beneficial no? Can't afford to screw up in the MBS if that's what I end up having to do...
I didn't know they gave you two weeks to decide, thanks for that! I'll hold off from submitting my app then since I still haven't heard back from a lot of schools.
Did you apply to any other SMPs and if so what made you choose Tufts over them?
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No A-? Harsh school, 
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As for applying, I definitely wouldn't recommend delaying if you already know for sure you want to do a SMP. The program itself is competitive and they take only a fraction of the applicants. I mentioned the 2 weeks as a fyi in case you were considering SMPs + other things. I think several other programs only give you 2 weeks to decide as well.
I applied late (Don't do this!), sometime in late March/completed April so I mailed applications to all the category 1 programs on that stickied SMP sheet at the top of this forum. I got into Tufts, Georgetown, East Virginia's and one or two more. I think I got off the BU waitlist, but I was set on Tufts as soon as I got in for the following reasons:
1) Small: 80-100 at Tufts versus hundreds in BU or Georgetown. There's 80 something students in my class this year.
2) Location: I lived and worked in Boston. Tufts Medical is in Chinatown and the center of the subway system.
3) Set/proven curriculum: You choose a single class the second semester at Tufts. Everything else is set. I heard how other choose your own schedule programs had complaints where certain classes or certain professors were astronomically harder (grade wise). It probably wasn't that bad, but I had poor experiences in that area so I wanted to avoid something like that if at all possible.
Other people mentioned other good points like the three tier advisors or the library or Sharewood (student volunteer clinic) or w/e, but they were less important for me. I've also heard the advisors/administrators are very helpful if you decide to apply during the MBS year.
. If you were able to learn from your earlier setback, then I think you'll be a-ok. Prior experience/exposure will help. Just be sure not to fall into the "I took this so I can relax" trap, which can sneak up on you even if you didn't intend it. Yes, that is speaking from personal experience.As for applying, I definitely wouldn't recommend delaying if you already know for sure you want to do a SMP. The program itself is competitive and they take only a fraction of the applicants. I mentioned the 2 weeks as a fyi in case you were considering SMPs + other things. I think several other programs only give you 2 weeks to decide as well.
I applied late (Don't do this!), sometime in late March/completed April so I mailed applications to all the category 1 programs on that stickied SMP sheet at the top of this forum. I got into Tufts, Georgetown, East Virginia's and one or two more. I think I got off the BU waitlist, but I was set on Tufts as soon as I got in for the following reasons:
1) Small: 80-100 at Tufts versus hundreds in BU or Georgetown. There's 80 something students in my class this year.
2) Location: I lived and worked in Boston. Tufts Medical is in Chinatown and the center of the subway system.
3) Set/proven curriculum: You choose a single class the second semester at Tufts. Everything else is set. I heard how other choose your own schedule programs had complaints where certain classes or certain professors were astronomically harder (grade wise). It probably wasn't that bad, but I had poor experiences in that area so I wanted to avoid something like that if at all possible.
Other people mentioned other good points like the three tier advisors or the library or Sharewood (student volunteer clinic) or w/e, but they were less important for me. I've also heard the advisors/administrators are very helpful if you decide to apply during the MBS year.
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Hey guys, I was wondering if you can comment on my chances at admission into the MBS program. I am currently a senior majoring in neuroscience with a 3.0-3.1 cGPA (~3.1 range upon graduation most likely) along with a similar sGPA. I simply did not perform during the freshmen and sophomore years due to a variety of personal reasons. I will be taking the MCAT this coming April and am aiming for a 32+O. The latter appears to be feasible, as I have progressed very well in my MCAT studies thus far. As for this upcoming semester, I will be taking a full course load including physics II and also working in my former professor's neurobiology lab (which I will be doing for credit). I plan on shadowing an MD in psychiatry and other related fields as well for ~10-20 hours in addition to volunteering ~4 hours a week. Finally, I believe that I can pull off a 3.7+ GPA this last semester.
How competitive would I be for Tufts MBS?
Thanks in advance.
How competitive would I be for Tufts MBS?
Thanks in advance.
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hmm.. I have a 3.1 cum gpa, 3.0 science gpa. post bacc gpa is 3.95 and my mcat is a
29Q ... 9PS , 8VR, 12BS Q... I'm studying to retake the MCAT sometime late may early June. Think I have a shot at this program?
29Q ... 9PS , 8VR, 12BS Q... I'm studying to retake the MCAT sometime late may early June. Think I have a shot at this program?
Hi RubicStorm, I know Tufts offers a MCAT prep course during the SMP year. Is this prep given during the semester? How/when during the year are students in the program expected to prepare adequately for their retake exams?
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The prep is offered during the summer as well, though as everything, it's best advised to have it before doing the program, i.e. study/take MCAT classes now or during summer and take the October MCAT before coming here. IMHO, the 2-3k saved is NOT worth taking advantage of this "free" class even though I'm sure it's great.
You can do it during the program which is right now, but we're starting anatomy in a week and I think these people are crazy, (our class got a bloody nose from the first exam of the semester with just 2 classes), but they'll definitely be ready for MD if they get through it. They make sure you have no conflict schedule, but you take the exams with everyone else so 0 time to study. There's also the thesis to worry about. 😉
Should have a very good shot. Think you're slightly better than me on all 3 stats (except the MCAT, nice one hope you can keep it) and I applied later. Competition is pretty stiff. They're getting hundreds of applicants per cycle per their office's account. Not quite 10% but not much better. Though I imagine a good chuck is incomplete, not meet requirement etc.
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Is taking the late April MCAT and applying after getting the grade too late? Also, I'm planning on sending a committee letter instead of three separate recommendations but my school doesn't send out the committee letter to the schools until June. So will they not even look at my application until they get the committee letter?
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I don't remember how long it takes for them to send out the MCAT result but you'd probably be on the late side. I strongly advise you to not wait on your committee letter if that's the only thing you're missing. And yes, they will hold up everything until you're complete. They only need a single science LoR (I think or maybe that + another letter of your choice) so I'd hit up your science teacher or ask your school's premed office to forward just those letters asap. I really don't feel waiting a month or two but that's just me.
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Has anyone else been accepted yet?
No word yet. Submitted my application about 5 weeks ago. Did you find out online via the status checker?
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Nope. They sent me an email.
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Checked the online status today and found out that I was accepted! 😀
Any one else hear today?
Any one else hear today?
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About a month turnaround time, I think I completed the app around 1/10.
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sGPA:3.0
MCAT: 32Q
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Just checked online and found out I was accepted! Kind of apprehensive if they do only give about two weeks to decide. I'm still waiting to hear back from BU and deciding between Tufts & Georgetown. Congrats to those who were likewise accepted!
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Hi RubicStorm,
I have a cGPA 3.44 and a science GPA 3.3 (cuz I performed really badly in most of my science pre-req classes but well in my upper-level ones). My heart is pretty set on doing an SMP and Tufts is my top choice; however, I'm not taking my first MCAT until this late March (meaning score will not be out until late April). How will this hurt my chances? by the way, I expect around a 33 or so on it.
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When did you have everything complete by!
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I had everything in and submitted by January 17th. I received the official letter in the mail yesterday - they do actually only give about 2 weeks to send back the confirmation and $500 deposit so I guess there's a decision to make! Good luck 🙂
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Hey everyone! I'm a Tufts MBS graduate (2011-2012) who will be happy to answer any questions you guys have about the program! Having completed it (and now preparing for med school in the Fall) I can vouch for how well the school prepares you for medical/dental school while providing a HUGE boost to your applications!
Either send me a PM or post here and I'll try to check every now and again to answer
Either send me a PM or post here and I'll try to check every now and again to answer
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Thanks for taking the time to do this. I have a few questions regarding the program.
1. How did you do in the program (how were your grades after completion)? How does that compare to the rest of your class?
2. Which school are you attending this fall? Is it a DO school or MD school? How many people typically get into MD schools vs DO schools (or don't get in anywhere, for that matter) from your class?
3. I assumed you didn't do a same year application, so what did you do during your year off?
4. Do you have any special tips that you may find helpful for someone applying for the 2013-2014 cycle?
Again, Thanks a bunch for your help 🙂
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1. How did you do in the program (how were your grades after completion)? How does that compare to the rest of your class?
I am a slacker who coasted through college, and definitely in terms of MBS I didn't study nearly as much as others. With that said, I got around a 3.6 GPA which probably put me in the top half of the class.
The great thing about Tufts is that EVERYTHING IS CURVED! The medical students are straight Pass/Fail with no class rankings, and their "Pass" is a 65% on the tests. So what the MBS does is they set a 65% as a B- (3.0), and make 6 divisions for up to 100 (ie. a 65-71 is a B-, 71-77 B, 77-83 B+ etc.). Most averages on the tests were around 83%, so the grades are really inflated!! At the medical school interviews this year, most ADCOMS don't know this and so were "impressed" with my 3.6 thinking that we had a standard 90-100 = A etc scale!
2. Which school are you attending this fall? Is it a DO school or MD school? How many people typically get into MD schools vs DO schools (or don't get in anywhere, for that matter) from your class?
So my stats/application was/is "good enough" for a mid-range MD school but I have some red flags (got in trouble in undergrad, poor freshmen grades and transferred) so I applied to only DO schools. Every DO school I applied to that would accept my MCAT age (last took in 2009) offered me an interview! 31Q / 3.5 undergrad GPA (s&c) / 3.6 MBS / 4000 clinical / multiple research. Overall, I think the MBS program has an 80% acceptance rate into medical school for those who apply after they complete the program...
The top 25% of the MBS class gets an auto interview at Tufts. I'd guess you would need around a 3.75+ GPA in the program for this, but don't quote me on that.
3. I assumed you didn't do a same year application, so what did you do during your year off?
I actually did apply while in the program, though it is "discouraged" since the first part of the program almost exactly mimics what the 1st year med students are doing. Although I wasn't as studious in the program as I could be and others were, I didn't have a problem completing applications... but most med schools wanted to see my final grades before interviews, or even my first semester MBS grades which didn't come out until late December which put me behind the application game. I, obviously, didn't get in that cycle.
After you complete the didactic portion in May, you have to complete a 30-50 page research thesis. Some chose to do a lab-based research project which can take a full year while others (me) did a library/literature/clinical thesis which can be done in 3 months or you can drag it out (me) for a full year. Advantages of dragging it out is loan deferment and being able to really concentrate on med school applications/retaking MCAT as soon as classes end. Disadvantages of dragging it out is the $800+ "continuation fee" for each additional semester.
Those who completed their research quickly found jobs in the area for the next year while they applied. The great thing about being in Boston is TONS of job opportunities (Research & Clinical) that can strengthen your application. And getting to add the "M.S." after your name when applying to jobs/med schools really does open up opportunities.
4. Do you have any special tips that you may find helpful for someone applying for the 2013-2014 cycle?
My biggest problem in applying is always applying late! Even this cycle, I didn't complete secondaries to the DO schools until late December/early January... though with the MBS program under my belt it didn't prevent me from getting tons of interest from schools!
In the MBS program you will be assigned a faculty mentor, so really get to know them so they can write a great letter of rec! And don't be afraid to ask them for one in Nov/Dec while you are still in class if you are applying that cycle.
A few (4+) people got accepted to Tufts while finishing the didactic part of the MBS program, so its definitely possible (and a few others accepted in other schools)! Those accepted were getting a 3.7+ GPA in the classes so far AND WERE ACTIVE IN VOLUNTEERING AT THE SHAREWOOD CLINIC -- the Sharewood clinic is a Tuesday night student-ran free service in Malden, MA (accessible by the T). It is a HUGE HUGE HUGE volunteer experience that med schools LOVE to see and you get great clinical experience. You are paired with a med student (usually 1st/2nd years) and together a patient comes in and you do a full interview, H&P, presentation to the resident/doctor, and final creation of the SOAP note.
Hope this answers your question!
I'm another current MBSer-- I'd be happy to answer any questions. A few things to add based on my own experiences:
-- Overall I've really enjoyed my experience here. The faculty is very supportive and the students are collaborative. There is a lot of material, but for the most part the lecturers try to make it as straightforward as possible (they don't ask nitpicky questions about meaningless factoids-- its all very relevant).
-- While the classes are definitely curved, I don't think "inflated" is the right word to use. The A-/B+ border is an 83 usually, and the med school class's average tended to be about an 84 +/- a few points. So if you get a 3.6, you are on par with the average med student (a high quality student working pretty hard). Generally, a 3.5-3.7 in an SMP is considered decent, and 3.7+ is considered very good. So I actually think that makes sense (and DO schools were right to be impressed that hockeyteen kept pace with the med students at a more competitive school).
--They actually got rid of the 25% guaranteed interview. They said it was because they were interviewing many more MBSers than that. Some of last year's class said they thought it was because their class was becoming too gunnerish and competitive.
--We had a workshop with the dean of admissions, and he gave us a stat sheet with acceptance percents to Tufts Med. For the M16 class, 89 MBSers applied, 64 were interviewed (72%, versus 13% in the general applicant pool), and 31 were admitted (48% of those interviewed, versus 54% of general applicants). The class size generally starts at ~120 and we lose some (based on our last exam seating chart we seem to have 105 or so left). So if you start the program, you a have a 1 in 4 shot at getting into Tufts (and obviously the better you do, the better your chances).
--Also, I have done Sharewood, so if you have any questions about that, feel free to ask.
-- Overall I've really enjoyed my experience here. The faculty is very supportive and the students are collaborative. There is a lot of material, but for the most part the lecturers try to make it as straightforward as possible (they don't ask nitpicky questions about meaningless factoids-- its all very relevant).
-- While the classes are definitely curved, I don't think "inflated" is the right word to use. The A-/B+ border is an 83 usually, and the med school class's average tended to be about an 84 +/- a few points. So if you get a 3.6, you are on par with the average med student (a high quality student working pretty hard). Generally, a 3.5-3.7 in an SMP is considered decent, and 3.7+ is considered very good. So I actually think that makes sense (and DO schools were right to be impressed that hockeyteen kept pace with the med students at a more competitive school).
--They actually got rid of the 25% guaranteed interview. They said it was because they were interviewing many more MBSers than that. Some of last year's class said they thought it was because their class was becoming too gunnerish and competitive.
--We had a workshop with the dean of admissions, and he gave us a stat sheet with acceptance percents to Tufts Med. For the M16 class, 89 MBSers applied, 64 were interviewed (72%, versus 13% in the general applicant pool), and 31 were admitted (48% of those interviewed, versus 54% of general applicants). The class size generally starts at ~120 and we lose some (based on our last exam seating chart we seem to have 105 or so left). So if you start the program, you a have a 1 in 4 shot at getting into Tufts (and obviously the better you do, the better your chances).
--Also, I have done Sharewood, so if you have any questions about that, feel free to ask.
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Thanks a bunch for answering my questions. It has also come to my attention that there were some issues with financial aid for SMP students. Supposedly, some masters programs begin in july-august, however, financial aid was not dispersed until September. Did you guys have to deal with this issue? Also, where are you guys living/do you have any tips on where to live and other general tips regarding housing?
I'm currently applying to a couple of SMPs and my application is currently under review. I will definitely weigh your response when deciding which program to attend. TVYM!
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I'm not sure about financial aid, but I don't see why it would be delayed.
The great thing about Boston is the MBTA (the T) metro allows for people to live nearly anywhere in the city. The closest apartment is The Met which is literally across the street from Posner Hall where you'll spend all your time. The next closest area is Bay Village which is a very short walk (4 blocks?). The Tufts stop is directly off of the Orange Line, so I live in Jamaica Plain at the Stony Brook stop (probably the only non-sketchy stop on the orange line west of the city). It usually takes me about 20-25 minutes to take the subway in to class, and the rent is considerably cheaper compared to other places (I only pay $650 + utilities to live with 2 roommates in a single family house whereas most other areas are going to be $1000+ with roommates or $1300+ for studio) and there is plenty of free street parking in JP. Some people live in Back Bay and walked 1/2 mile + to class, a lot live in Cambridge and take the Red Line (about 25 mins+), and some lived in the North End. I would say aim for a place close to a red line stop (the green line is miserable during rush hour since it has street cards) and avoid areas southwest of the city (Dorchester).
Financial aid was came in the first week in Sept. Orientation started Aug 26 this year. So there is a slight gap, but only about a week or so. Lots of people stayed in a hostel the first week of class rather than get an apt. for August (I think it was $40-$50/night, 2 blocks from campus, and it looked nice).
I'm not the best to ask about housing, but Cambridge and Somerville seem popular along the red line. I know a few in Chinatown, which is right next to campus and less expensive, but supposedly not that safe after dark (it seems fine to me during the day). I also know some who live somewhere around Kenmore (that's their T-stop at least), but that's off the green line, which is slow. There also is Posner Hall, which also houses the lecture hall for most of your classes, but that is a true college-style dorm (single rooms).
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Thanks, this is what I was expecting. I guess I got the time frame wrong for this school. I also applied to UCinci, and they start in early August. The September financial aid dispersement really screws you over for that program. I guess I'm jumping the gun, as I haven't been accepted to the program yet. Perhaps I'll start looking into the housing situation when I do.
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Sorry for this stupid question, but just want to make sure. I sent in my $500 deposit along with my candidate reply form yesterday confirming my spot for fall 2013, but I forgot to make sure whether it is refundable or not if I change my mind. Anyone know? I'd call the office but as it's Saturday, they're closed.
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Just wondering when you were complete by.
I was prob complete mid Feb, accepted couples days ago. Have until end of march to pay for deposit. I'm also wondering what to do for living arrangements, as it is def required to have a roommate to keep cost down! =O
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I'm in the same boat. I got accepted last week as well and put down my deposit yesterday. Its unlikely I'll be getting off the waitlist at UCinci, and Temple ACMS is a long shot, so I'll most likely matriculate here this fall. I guess I'll be looking for roommates here in a couple of months as well 🙂
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Hey guys,
First of all congrats to everyone who is already accepted and who has decided on Tufts. I applied late February and got a waitlist offer this Monday. They say that there is no specific ranking for the waitlist and that they can review their waitlist up until the day before orientation on 8/15-8/16. Is anyone familiar with a waitlister getting accepted? Or has anyone else been wait listed?
I am pre-dental as well so I don't know if they would prefer pre-meds although they might since it is mainly a pre-med smp.
First of all congrats to everyone who is already accepted and who has decided on Tufts. I applied late February and got a waitlist offer this Monday. They say that there is no specific ranking for the waitlist and that they can review their waitlist up until the day before orientation on 8/15-8/16. Is anyone familiar with a waitlister getting accepted? Or has anyone else been wait listed?
I am pre-dental as well so I don't know if they would prefer pre-meds although they might since it is mainly a pre-med smp.
I remember one person in the program saying at orientation that they had been accepted off the waitlist the week before, and basically just hopped on a plane and flew across the country. I am sure there are others, though I don't know who they are.
There are at least a few predents in the program, although I am not aware of how many or whether they give preference to premeds.
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Congrats to all those with acceptances! Does anyone know how often the admissions committee meets and how quick of a turnaround it is since you have everything complete?
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Three weeks for me but had letters and transcripts in well before I submitted.
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I had everything in for a long time before they finally marked it complete. I was accepted 10 days after that (or earlier, I just checked my decision 10 days after and found out I was accepted).
I had everything except one LOR in by jan 28th, and that LOR didn't get in until around Feb 15th, so a little under 3 weeks of a turn around for me. Best of luck! Hope you hear back soon!
As a current student living in Boston, I can attest to the need for roommates for affordable housing! Perhaps we can start a separate thread or email chain for those in need of roommates?
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I am starting to fill out the application for this program. I have previously applied for Tufts Medical School. Does anyone know of a way to switch all the stuff I did for that application over to this one?
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I may be thinking of some other program's website, but I believe I remember reading that doing so is not possible, and that a new application would be required. I would bet up to three dollars that they require a full, separate app.
I definitely know that a) you can recycle med school LoRs, and b) they want a personal statement specifically about why the Tufts SMP (i.e., no recycling the med school PS, as you can for, say, Georgetown).
Good luck!
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Congrats on your acceptance! Would you mind sharing when you were complete by? Eagerly awaiting my decision..
