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Top 10, what would you guys say?
Top 10, what would you guys say?
"In terms of........"
just in general. overall what are the top osteopathic schools?
I've planned on going to an allopathic school, but the more I've read about osteopathic medicine, the more I like it.
In terms of........
You need criteria. How can there be a rank w/o something to base it on? You want us to randomly pick our favorites, or something?
PCOM also asks for $2000 by April 15.Sort of irrelevant, but I just saw the deposit for western. 2k, what an ungodly amount just to save a seat. I like PCOM's 250 though, much better.
PCOM also asks for $2000 by April 15.
Sort of irrelevant, but I just saw the deposit for western. 2k, what an ungodly amount just to save a seat. I like PCOM's 250 though, much better.
For example, I wanted a school where I would not be stuck in lecture all day, was not in a big city, had low tuition, etc.
and what were the top schools you found that matched this criteria?
Week one at western is Voodoo Doll Gross AnatomyLECOM is the best. Everywhere else is just voodoo teachings.
But something in osteopathic schools that always moves them down a theoretical ranking list in my mind is: branch campuses.
I don't like the idea of branch campuses. For one it makes the medical school seem like a chain store. Secondly, it dilutes teaching talent and it dilutes monetary resources. I prefer a school that takes its resources and puts them back into their main campus to make it better and better rather than throwing out a bunch of little campuses (campii?)
Week one at western is Voodoo Doll Gross Anatomy
While it is possible to put all of your eggs in one basket, it's not always the best move. Imagine if McDonald's had only stayed in one location...or only owning stock in one company. If you feel that the service you provide is superior to the service of others, I see no reason NOT to expand.
Where does NYCOM rank?
Well if that's the criteria, I claim TCOM is the best...no snow, dress code, and we have real treesAZCOM is the best because it never snows here and you have no dress code.
Well if that's the criteria, I claim TCOM is the best...no snow, dress code, and we have real trees
Scrap the idea of the best schools (MD or DO) and look at a couple of things, most importantly:
1. location (do you care to be near family, will weather affect you, etc.)
2. price....although you will be a doctor one day making $150k+ and you will be able to pay it off, a difference of $80k is A LOT. It's practically the number one complaint of med students and doctors
3. realistic stats-apply to schools broadly, ones that are a little below and a little higher than your stats, and of course all the in between ones
Other than that....go based off how you feel at the interviews. Then put the schools through your own personal rankings. I liked this process a lot more once I realized med school choice is a personal choice rather than a ranking/reputation game. Good luck !
I know law schools are very tier oriented and going to a higher tier law school as opposed to a lower one will mean a big deal in terms of future job opportunities and income potential.
People mistakenly often think the same thing about medical school. The truth is that your board scores, class rank, and personality mean much more in terms of where you end up than where you went to school.
Doctors are in demand everywhere for almost every specialty. It isn't like a we have a lawyer shortage though.
Edit: Just wanted to add this. After my first medical school acceptance the first schools I canceled my interviews with were all at colder/snowy climates. I hate cold.
The truth is that your board scores, class rank, and personality mean much more in terms of where you end up than where you went to school.
Edit: Just wanted to add this. After my first medical school acceptance the first schools I canceled my interviews with were all at colder/snowy climates. I hate cold.
I agree with your point. Unfortunately, this is NOT the mentality of Touro and similar private (ie for-profit) osteopathic schools. I have no doubt that with quality of our current faculty and the ability to recruit top-notch future faculty based on location we could become one of the best in the country. However Touro chooses to spend all of its (our) money and resources chasing satellite campuses and allopathic schools.
Not sure you meant it this way, but just to clarify..... private does NOT mean "for-profit".
Well then every institution of higher learning would need the "quotes".That's why I said similar private and not all private. But let's not kid ourselves... just cause an institution is "nonprofit" doesn't mean it's not lining the fat cats' wallets. Privatized health insurance is "nonprofit".
Not surprising.
I can't wait for LECOM's OMM. What most people don't know is that it is run by the CIA. The manipulation techniques are actually methods of covertly snapping someone's neck from behind.
Would that make you both a DO and a DN (doctor of ninjaopathy), ie dual degree program?
KCUMB - great matches, great academics, awesome atmosphere
Actually we prefer ND. It's like MD, but 1 letter better.
Oh? How do you know that? You didn't buy into their dog and pony show did you? No, I guess not, since you are apparently going to be attending another school. Good. You are smart.
I agree with your first point, that KCUMB has consistently good match lists, but as to the rest of the points, well, I will have to respectfully disagree. Perhaps at one point KCUMB was a great school, but now, it is just successful business that cares more about the bottom line and whether or not you wear tank tops to class rather than the quality of your education. I have never skipped one day of class since orientation and I l have earned absolutely nothing of value. Most of the lecturers are from other sites/schools and a few of them even admit in public that the policies and curriculum is absolutely ridiculous. Our own professors are dreadfully incompetent...not a single one of them taught me anything that was remotely board-relevant.
Did you know how I managed to pass the boards? I studied 24hrs a day and learned everything by myself from scratch. Meanwhile, analogous students from other institutions were way better prepared by their professors. I was struggling to learn the basics of the TCA cycle while they had been doing board questions on computers from day one. This is how most of pass. We work three times as hard as everyone else and we barely manage to get by. Is this the kind of experience you want to have? Is it? If it is, then go ahead and hand over your $44K (and rising, plus interest) to the administration who invest it in charity organizations that you'll never hear about or benefit from. Meanwhile, they are going to use your *** and send you to collect garbage on Independence Ave. Oh yeah, and when it comes time for you to take your boards, somehow they become even MORE adversarial and try to actively impede your progress.
So we have no faculty of any value (at least any more, since about 15 of them left in the past 3-4 years), including the "famed" and dreadfully anti-social pathologist that school (and their representatives and cheerleaders). Great. You learn useless morphology, but you never learn a single shred of pathophysiology, which by the way, is heavily emphasized on the boards and what all real medical schools teach. Instead, we get videos of the Marlboro Man from way back before most of you were born and 40 page handouts from his website (his pet project, by the way) in 5-point font (which by the way have little to do with his test questions). Yes, folks, this the prized faculty of the school. That's the best you are going to get and they don't give a ****. If you don't like it, you are going to get a **** notation on your **** letter.
Don't be fooled by external appearances or hearsay from staff and student ambassadors. The environment is NOT student-friendly. If you had these friends, you wouldn't need enemies. As my good "friend" Ed. Goljan said, "these guys should be hanged by their toes upside-down because they are not your advocates." (Paraphrased, of course).
Oh? How do you know that? You didn't buy into their dog and pony show did you? No, I guess not, since you are apparently going to be attending another school. Good. You are smart.
I agree with your first point, that KCUMB has consistently good match lists, but as to the rest of the points, well, I will have to respectfully disagree. Perhaps at one point KCUMB was a great school, but now, it is just successful business that cares more about the bottom line and whether or not you wear tank tops to class rather than the quality of your education. I have never skipped one day of class since orientation and I l have earned absolutely nothing of value. Most of the lecturers are from other sites/schools and a few of them even admit in public that the policies and curriculum is absolutely ridiculous. Our own professors are dreadfully incompetent...not a single one of them taught me anything that was remotely board-relevant.
Did you know how I managed to pass the boards? I studied 24hrs a day and learned everything by myself from scratch. Meanwhile, analogous students from other institutions were way better prepared by their professors. I was struggling to learn the basics of the TCA cycle while they had been doing board questions on computers from day one. This is how most of pass. We work three times as hard as everyone else and we barely manage to get by. Is this the kind of experience you want to have? Is it? If it is, then go ahead and hand over your $44K (and rising, plus interest) to the administration who invest it in charity organizations that you'll never hear about or benefit from. Meanwhile, they are going to use your *** and send you to collect garbage on Independence Ave. Oh yeah, and when it comes time for you to take your boards, somehow they become even MORE adversarial and try to actively impede your progress.
So we have no faculty of any value (at least any more, since about 15 of them left in the past 3-4 years), including the "famed" and dreadfully anti-social pathologist that school (and their representatives and cheerleaders). Great. You learn useless morphology, but you never learn a single shred of pathophysiology, which by the way, is heavily emphasized on the boards and what all real medical schools teach. Instead, we get videos of the Marlboro Man from way back before most of you were born and 40 page handouts from his website (his pet project, by the way) in 5-point font (which by the way have little to do with his test questions). Yes, folks, this the prized faculty of the school. That's the best you are going to get and they don't give a ****. If you don't like it, you are going to get a **** notation on your **** letter.
Don't be fooled by external appearances or hearsay from staff and student ambassadors. The environment is NOT student-friendly. If you had these friends, you wouldn't need enemies. As my good "friend" Ed. Goljan said, "these guys should be hanged by their toes upside-down because they are not your advocates." (Paraphrased, of course).
I agree with your first point, that KCUMB has consistently good match lists...
We work three times as hard as everyone else and we barely manage to get by.
If the students at KCUMB barely manage to get by, how is it the school has a consistently good match list?
I'm not trying to argue with you, but you sound extremely bitter and not at all objective, in my opinion.
but at the end, everything ended up okay despite that.
We created a post-doc position for that field after people asked. A certain choice (I forget which) was changed to post-doc. Users had to manually change the field to remove post-doc if they had the previous choice that was replaced.Out of curiosity, what year did you graduate and where did you go for residency?
(I don't see many people who use "post-doc" as their status rather than resident or attending)