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Just to show you an example. Please read the whole sentence. All you do is pick the words out that bother you and argue them.
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Just to show you an example. Please read the whole sentence. All you do is pick the words out that bother you and argue them.
The ADA and Rehab act do not permit universities to discriminate against students on the basis of disability.
Okay, let me ask you something.
If you are completely Deaf, as in, you don't use a hearing aid for assistance, you can't hear a thing, and you use ASL as your only way of communication.. how would you be a physician? How would you hear what a patient has to say? How could you get through rotations? These are serious questions you need to ask yourself, not things that people are just throwing out there to be rude.
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We're not talking about universities. We're talking about medical school, where your ultimate goal is to become a physician. It's different.
Yawn......
I don't know what applies and what doesn't, I am not deaf. But it is right there. I don't know what to tell you. There are deaf doctors out there, but it is worth looking into. Maybe they had special accommodations or different requirements. I don't know. Again, people aren't trying to discriminate. it isn't an attitude about being better. It is a contract to attend med school. look into it.
I don't know what applies and what doesn't, I am not deaf. But it is right there. I don't know what to tell you. There are deaf doctors out there, but it is worth looking into. Maybe they had special accommodations or different requirements. I don't know. Again, people aren't trying to discriminate. it isn't an attitude about being better. It is a contract to attend med school. look into it.
Do you see what you're doing? I'm actually ASKING YOU REAL QUESTIONS. I'm not being rude, I'm not being ignorant. The fact that you can't even come to terms with the situation at hand astounds me.
Wow, you really do just like to pick out the small things of what people say, instead of focusing on the big picture. If being Deaf doesn't stop you from being a physician, your attitude sure will.Best of luck to you.
Best of luck to you.
You know what? You are an ASS.
Dmu is not a university?
Now you're resorting to name calling? Okay.
Honestly, I've tried more than once to reason with you and actually find out what your story is. I've tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. I've even tried to put myself in your shoes. But with every single post, you just remind me that it's impossible. Go ahead, call me an ass. I really don't care. Maybe to you, I am one. But you're going to have to deal with reality at some point in your life.
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I'm ignoring you. I do not have time for people who tell me I can't do something because I am deaf.
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This is why it is frustrating. I try to be calm and explain everything, I try to reason, and I don't want to just ignore him because I want to believe he isn't trolling, but there is no way he can be serious at this point.
Yeah, that's pretty much my whole issue. You try to go in at every angle, and it's just useless. Honestly, I wish he'd just leave instead of just commenting 5 times to different parts of someone's post.
But your attitude is still discriminatory as its puts Deaf people in a negative light and promotes misconceptions and stereotypes about the Deaf.
I can certainly see how you all might be beyond frustration at this point, but this is perhaps the most hilarious thread on SDN in months!!! LOL!
You find discrimination against the Deaf "hilarious"?
Yep. Whatever you say dude. I have a tattoo on my arm that is a big ear and under it, it says "HEARING POWER." You deaf people are a hindrance to the advancement of the superior hearing race.
You are now ignored!
sorry SDN. I should have ignored him much sooner. I apologize for letting this thread get out of hand.
List of medical professional programs that have graduated a Deaf/HOH individual or who have such a student currently enrolled in their program.
http://www.amphl.org/profprogs.php
http://www.amphl.org/profprogs.php
No worries. I was guilty of it, too. I think we just tried too hard, and in the interest of trying to figure out the deal with him, just let it snowball.
Edit: He's still going, so we can just watch him argue with himself.
haha. don't know what he is saying, but it is quite comical.
But I didn't say anything about physical sciences. I was talking about all of the sciences to begin with. That people with high science GPAs (all sciences) may not do well on the science (all sciences) portion of the MCAT.
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Save the effort and let it go. He will just talk about you being an audist or something like that.
I love Audis. What's the big deal about that? You wanna make something of it?
Haha. They are nice.
OMG!!!
I can't believe this thread.
is all I can say.
I can't believe this thread.is all I can say.
I try not to casually throw accusations around, and we generally seem to be pretty safe here on non-trad, but I think a lot of people took the bait in this topic. A fire only continues to burn as long as fuel is added - I suggest we all walk away and just let this one burn itself out.
that's interesting, cause most med schools have technical requirements which include being able to talk to and listen to patients. for example here is from Harvard med school, which is included in the list on that web page, so i'm confused....
But thats what we were talking about, sciences. see posts #63, 66, 68
Deaf can be doctors. I just proved they can.
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"Wendy Osterling and Rob Nutt give a thumbs-upin sign languageto Dartmouth's creativity in accommodating their hearing impairment. Both students have just started their fourth year of M.D. studies at Dartmouth Medical School"
http://dartmed.dartmouth.edu/fall03/html/vs_deafness.shtml
http://dartmed.dartmouth.edu/fall03/html/vs_deafness.shtml
Aww, you're sweet LKTHLTTR, thank you!
This looks a lot like the usual class discrimination claim. A recap of the last 5 years in nontrad:
...and then we find out they have a 2.5 GPA.
...and then we find out they don't think they should have to take the MCAT because they've worked as a nurse/PT/OT/PA/etc.
...and then we find out they only applied to one school.
...18 MCAT.
...all of the above, most likely. I still think we're talking to a bored 13 year old girl in Beijing.
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Seeing as how I'm bored at work these days I decided to check out jasins source of info and found it to be interesting. Very encouraging and well written but it doesn't seem to talk about what you actually need to do in order to get into medical school. Rather, it touches on difficulties deaf people may have in taking the vr section, dismisses the technical requirements by saying they can be overcome (without saying how) and implies that a spot in med school is anyone's for the taking if they work hard. Fair enough, but I think this might be a bit misleading; it says nowhere that the deaf will be held to the same standards as everyone else.
+1. Basically what people have been saying. Look into exactly what is needed.
Exactly.
I'm a total hippie commie liberal tax&spend kind of person; in my view, it's of interest to throw money & effort at two problems:
1. Primary education of the Deaf results in a 4th grade reading level. This is a failure in primary education.
2. Education, in general, of a differently-abled student may require a full time assistant, either for communication or physical skills or both. Jobs for all.
I have no enthusiasm for this problem:
1. Medical education is not accessible to those thrown under the bus by their primary education. Med ed can't fix primary ed.
Best of luck to you.
This is a Hasty Generalization Fallacy.
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/hasty-generalization.html
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