2011 Match Lists

I think disinence's point is well-taken. For Neurosurg, dermatology, and a few other fields, chairman's letters are required even for away rotations. If there's not a process in place for that, the process will be much more stressful for a given specialty. Furthermore, if there isn't a tradition of mentoring in a given department, things again become more challenging. Finally, the student aspect is there too, if no one is matching into say, Neurosurg, there won't be a friendly m4 there to give advice to the m3s about to try to optimize their apps in a given field. Of course, PDs will also be less familiar with students from an institution if no one goes into it. My school didn't have anyone do optho this past year, which is a big issue for the ppl in my class who want to do it especially with it being early match.

geogil said:

Again, these are inferences based on the tenuous assumption that the most important variable in the equation is the medical school of origin, not the relative merits of the applicant themselves.

I know I'm arguing an unpopular point, my point is that match lists are of minimal use to pre-meds or even pre-clinical students. Until a student is actually involved in the application process, they won't really know the relative strengths of programs. I've said it before, not every brand name is great at everything.

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Anesthesia (19)
Harvard/ Brigham & Women’s
(2) Loma Linda
Mayo
(3) MCW
Northwestern
Rush
UCLA
UCSD
Univ of Buffalo
Univ of Pittsburgh
(2) Univ of Utah
Univ of Washington
Univ of Wisconsin
UT San Antonio
Washington Univ in St Louis

Child Neurology (1)
St Joseph’s Hospital, Phoenix

Derm (2)
Mayo
MCW

Emergency Med (17)
Albert Einstein Jacobi/Montefiore
Cook County Hospital, Chicago
Henry Ford
Mayo
(3) MCW
Michigan State Univ
Ohio State
(2) Oregon Health & Science University
Resurrection Medical Center, Chicago
Univ of Arizona
Univ of Illinois Chicago
Univ of Illinois Peoria
Univ of Nevada
UVA

Family Med (21)
Christus Spohn Memorial Hospital, Corpus Christi
Family Medicine Residency of Idaho
Franciscan Skemp Healthcare Program, La Crosse
Kaiser Permanente Southern California
(4) MCW/ Columbia St. Mary’s Hospitals
(3) MCW/ Waukesha
Phoenix Baptist Hospital
Research Medical Center Program, Kansas City
St. Louis Univ
UNC
Univ of Colorado
Univ of Michigan
Univ of Minnesota
(2) Univ of Wisconsin
Wright State

General Surgery (16)
Albany Med Center
Hennepin County Medical Center, Minneapolis
John Hopkins
(2) Loma Linda
Maimonidies
Marshfield Clinic/ St. Joseph's Hospital, Marshfield
(3) MCW
Michigan State Univ
Ohio State
SUNY Upstate
Univ of Louisville
Univ of South Florida
Univ of Toronto

Internal Medicine (25)
(2) Banner Good Samaritan, Phoenix
Baylor
George Washington
(2) Indiana Univ
Kaiser Permanente Medical Center, Santa Clara
Kaiser Permanente Southern California
Loyola
(8) MCW
Oregon Health & Science Univ
Univ of Chicago
Univ of Colorado
Univ of Iowa
Univ of Penn
Univ of Utah
(2) UT Southwestern

Internal Med/Derm (1)
Harvard

Internal Med/Peds (7)
Case Western
George Washington
Maricopa Medical Center, Phoenix
(2) MCW
Penn State
Univ of South Carolina

Internal Medicine Prelim (12)
Alameda County Medical Center, Oakland
(4) MCW
St Luke’s Medical Center, Milwaukee
SUNY Downstate
UC Irvine
UCSD
UCSF - Fresno
Univ of Utah
Virginia Mason Medical Center, Seattle

Neurology (4)
Brown
Cleveland Clinic
Emory
USC

Neuro Surg (2)
Cleveland Clinic
Univ of Florida

OB/GYN (9)
Albert Einstein Jacobi/Montefiore
Banner Good Samaritan, Phoenix
Harvard/ Brigham & Women’s
(3) MCW
Rush
UC Davis
Univ of Massachusetts

Ophtho (4)
Thomas Jefferson/ Wills Eye
SUNY Stony Brook
SUNY Downstate
UT Medical Branch

Orthopaedics (8)
Banner Good Samaritan, Phoenix
MCW
Univ of Kentucky
Univ of Massachusetts
Univ of New Mexico
(2) Univ of Wisconsin
UT San Antonio

Otolaryngology (4)
(2) MCW
St. Louis Univ
Univ of Missouri - Columbia


Pathology (1)
MCW

Peds (27)
Advocate Christ Medical Center, Oak Lawn
Children's Hospital - Oakland
Emory
Georgetown
John Hopkins
Loyola
(10) MCW/ Children’s Hospital of Wisconsin
(2) Northwestern
(2) Phoenix Children's Hospital/Maricopa Medical Center
Rush
St. Joseph’s Hospital, Phoenix
Univ of Arizona
Univ of Chicago
Univ of Minnesota
Univ of Wisconsin
Vanderbilt

Peds Prelim (1)
MCW

PM&R (5)
Baylor
(2) MCW
Northwestern
Univ of Washington

Plastic Surg (1)
MCW

Psych (3)
MCW
Northwestern
University of Washington

Rad Onc (1)
Mayo

Radiology (10)
(3) MCW
Ohio State
Southern Illinois Univ
UC Davis
UC Irvine
UNC
Univ of Minnesota
Washington Univ in St. Louis

Surgery Prelim (11)
Beth Israel Deaconess
Cleveland Clinic
MCW
Mt Carmel, Columbus
Riverside Methodist Hospitals (Ohio Health), Columbus
St. John Hospital and Medical Center, Detroit
UC Irvine
Univ of Iowa
Univ of Kansas
Univ of Michigan
Univ of Washington

Transitional (19)
(4) Aurora/ St. Lukes Med Center, Milwaukee
Emory
Gundersen Lutheran Medical Foundation, La Crosse
Hennepin County Medical Center, Minneapolis
MacNeal Memorial Hospital, Berwyn
(6) MCW
Naval Medical Center Program, Portsmith
(3) St Joseph Hospital, Milwaukee
UCLA Harbor

Urology (5)
Cleveland Clinic
MCW
UC Irvine
Univ of Iowa
Univ of Kansas

Got me pretty excited. Some highlights include Plastics at NY Pres., Derm at Mass Gen., and Radonc at MD Anderson. Overall a strong match for a state school.

Anesthesiology

Barnes-Jewish Hosp- MO
Einstein/Montefiore Med Ctr- NY
Hosp of the Univ of PA
Jackson Memorial Hosp- FL
Massachusetts Gen Hosp - MA
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr- NY
NYU School Of Medicine - NY
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark- NJ
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Camden - NJ
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway - NJ
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr - IL
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT (2 students)

Child Neurology

NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr- NY
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ

Dermatology

Massachusetts Gen Hosp - MA
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ
Washington Hospital Ctr- DC

Emergency Medicine

Darnall Army Medical Center - TX
Eastern VA Med School-VA
Long Island Jewish Med Ctr-NY
Morristown Mem Hosp-NJ
NY Hosp Med Ctr Queens - NY
NYP Hosp-Columbia & Cornell-NY
NYU School Of Medicine - NY
St Lukes-Roosevelt-NY
SUNY HSC Brooklyn-NY
SUNY Upstate Med University - NY
UC San Francisco-Fresno-CA
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ (4 students)
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT

Family Medicine

Hunterdon Medical Ctr-NJ
Lancaster Gen Hosp-PA
Lehigh Valley Hosp-PA
Mountainside Hosp-NJ
Penn St U/Good Samaritan-PA
Ventura County Med Ctr-CA

General Surgery

Georgetown Univ Hosp-DC
Jackson Memorial Hosp-FL
Maimonides Med Ctr-NY
Morristown Mem Hosp-NJ (2 students)
Rhode Island Hosp/Brown U - RI
SUNY HSC Brooklyn-NY
SUNY HSC Brooklyn-NY
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
U Rochester/Strong Mem-NY
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ (4 students)
Westchester Med Ctr-NY

Internal Medicine

Albany Medical Center-NY
Boston Univ Med Ctr-MA (2 students)
Christiana Care-DE
Dartmouth-Hitchcock Med Ctr-NH
Einstein/Montefiore Med Ctr-NY
Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA
Hosp of the Univ of PA
Jackson Memorial Hosp-FL
Kaiser Permanente-Los Angeles-CA
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY
Seton Hall Univ Sch of Health & Med Sci-NJ
Temple Univ Hosp-PA (2 students)
Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA (2 students)
Tufts Medical Center-MA (2 students)
Tulane Univ SOM-LA
U Colorado SOM-Denver - CO
U Maryland Med Ctr - MD
U Rochester/Strong Mem-NY
U Southern California - CA
U Washington Affil Hosps - WA
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ (10 students)
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway NJ (2 students)
Washington Hospital Ctr-DC
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT

Medicine - Primary

Johns Hopkins/Bayview-MD
Medicine-Pediatrics
Hosp of the Univ of PA
Newark Beth Israel Med Ctr-NJ
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ (2 students)

Medicine-Preliminary

SUNY-Stonybrook - NY
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ
Neurological Surgery
University of Virginia - VA

Neurology

Brigham & Womens Hosp- MA
Einstein/Montefiore Med Ctr- NY

Obstetrics-Gynecology

Case Western/MetroHealth Med Ctr- OH
Long Island Jewish Med Ctr- NY
St Lukes-Roosevelt-NY
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ
UPMC Medical Education- PA

Ophthalmology

Georgetown Univ Hosp-DC (2 students)
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ

Orthopaedic Surgery

Maimonides Med Ctr-NY
NYU School Of Medicine - Hosp Joint Diseases - NY
Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA
U Rochester/Strong Mem-NY
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ

Otolaryngology

Temple Univ Hosp-PA

Pathology

Mt Sinai Hospital-NY
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY
U Rochester/Strong Mem-NY
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ

Pediatrics

Childrens Hosp-Philadelphia-PA
Einstein/Jacobi Med Ctr-NY (3 students)
Jackson Memorial Hosp-FL
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY (2 students)
North Shore-LIJ Health Sys-NY
NYU School Of Medicine NY (2 students)
St Christophers Hosp-PA
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway NJ (2 students)
Vanderbilt Univ Med Ctr-TN

Phys Medicine & Rehab

Harvard/Spaulding-MA
Jackson Memorial Hosp-FL (2 students)
Northwestern McGaw/RIC-IL (2 students)
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ

Plastic Surgery

NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ

Psychiatry

Baylor Coll Med-Houston-TX
Einstein/Beth Israel Med Ctr-NY
Hosp of the Univ of PA
Long Island Jewish Med Ctr-NY
St Lukes-Roosevelt-NY
U North Carolina Hospitals NC
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway NJ

Radiation Oncology

SUNY HSC Brooklyn-NY
U Texas MD Anderson Cancer Ctr - TX

Radiology-Diagnostic

Boston Univ Med Ctr-MA (2 students)
Einstein/Beth Israel Med Ctr-NY
Long Island Coll Hosp-NY
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY
SUNY HSC Brooklyn-NY
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ (2 students)
UPMC Medical Education-PA

Surgery-Preliminary

Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA (2 students)
Morristown Mem Hosp-NJ
St. Barnabas Medical Center NJ (2 students)
U Florida COM-Shands Hosp FL
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ
Washington Hospital Ctr-DC

Transitional

Eisenhower Army Medical Center - GA

Urology

Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA
U Connecticut Health Ctr - CT (2 students)
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark NJ

drizzt3117 said:

I think disinence's point is well-taken. For Neurosurg, dermatology, and a few other fields, chairman's letters are required even for away rotations. If there's not a process in place for that, the process will be much more stressful for a given specialty. Furthermore, if there isn't a tradition of mentoring in a given department, things again become more challenging. Finally, the student aspect is there too, if no one is matching into say, Neurosurg, there won't be a friendly m4 there to give advice to the m3s about to try to optimize their apps in a given field. Of course, PDs will also be less familiar with students from an institution if no one goes into it. My school didn't have anyone do optho this past year, which is a big issue for the ppl in my class who want to do it especially with it being early match.

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Agreed. You definitely lose the benefit of program directors being familiar with students from your school. If a program has taken students from a particular school in the recent past that have done very well, there is a higher likelihood of wanting to take more. To continue the neurosurgery example, it seems pretty clear that there is some sort of Columbia-Barrow connection or how at my school (usually 2-4 neurosurg applicants) there always seems to be someone that matches at WashU. This is also true because often residents play a role in the selection of applicants, and may be favored to choose you if they know you/worked with you as a med student.

Just Saw the other NJ School's (Robert Wood Johnson) Match list... I'm impressed by such a strong list for a state school!


Highlights: 6 to Harvard Hospitals, 7 to Columbia, 6 to Cornell, 6 to UPenn, 5 to Yale, 5 to Brown, 3 Hopkins...



UMDNJ – Robert Wood Johnson Match List 2011

Anesthesiology
Harvard - Brigham & Women's
Columbia – NY Presbyterian (2)
UPenn (3)
Johns Hopkins
University of Virginia
U Rochester/Strong Memorial
UMDNJ – RWJ (3)
Penn State
U Maryland
U Texas – Houston
UMDNJ – NJ Med

Dermatology
Columbia University – NY Presbyterian
Einstein/Montefiore, NY

Emergency Medicine
Harvard - Brigham & Women's
Harvard - B I Deaconess Medical Center – Boston (2)
UC Davis
Mt. Sinai (2)
Boston University
Temple University (2)
UMDNJ – RWJ in Piscataway
UMDNJ – RWJ in Camden (3)
Advocate Christ Medical Center, IL
Morristown Memorial Hosp, NJ

Family Medicine
U Colorado SOM
Christiana Care, DE
Memorial Hermann Hosp, TX
Hunterdon Medical Center, NJ (3)
Bremerton Washington Naval Hospital, WA

General Surgery
Cornell – NY Presbyterian
U Pittsburgh
U Rochester/Strong Memorial (2)
St. Lukes-Roosevelt, NY
Georgetown University Hosp
Temple University Hospital
NY Methodist Hospital
UMDNJ – RWJ Piscataway (2)
UMDNJ – RWJ Camden
Morristown Memorial Hospital
SUNY HSC – Brooklyn

Internal Medicine
Harvard - Massachusetts General Hospital
Cornell – NY Presbyterian (2)
Yale (3)
Brown/ Rhode Island Hospital (5)
Mt. Sinai Hospital, NY (5)
UCLA
U of Wisconsin
Einstein/Montefiore (2)
Lahey Clinic, MA
Tufts Medical Center
Temple University (3)
UMDNJ – RWJ Piscataway (4)
UMDNJ – RWJ Camden

Med-Peds
Christiana Care, DE

Med-Primary
UPenn

Med-Preventative Medicine
Kaiser Permanente of SF, CA

Neurology
Columbia – NY Presbyterian
Cornell – NY Presbyterian
Baylor Coll Med, TX
Thomas Jefferson, PA

Neurological Surgery
Columbia – NY Presbyterian
UPenn
U Texas Southwestern

OB-GYN
Cornell – NY Presbyterian
Mt. Sinai Hospital, NY
Long Island Jewish Medical Center

Ophthalmology
Yale
Columbia – NY Presbyterian
NYU
Albert Einstein COM, NY
Tufts New England Eye Center, MA

Orthopedic Surgery
NYU (2)
Wake Forest
UMDNJ RWJ – Piscataway (2)

Pathology
UPenn

Pediatrics
UC San Diego
U Southern California
U Colorado SOM, Denver
Univ of Chicago
Mt Sinai Hospital, NY
NYU (2)
Jefferson Dupont Children's
U Florida COM
Westchester Med Center, NY

Plastic Surgery
Harvard – Brigham & Women's Hosp

Psychiatry
UC San Diego
Tufts Medical Center
UMDNJ RWJ - Piscataway

PM&R
Columbia/Cornell Combined
Mt. Sinai
Boston University Medical Center
UMDNJ RWJ – Piscataway (2)

Radiation Oncology
UMDNJ RWJ – Piscataway (2)

Radiology
Yale
Johns Hopkins
U of Maryland
Boston University
UMDNJ RWJ – Camden
Stony Brook
Einstein/Beth Israel Med Center, NY
Albert Einstein Med Center, PA

Urology
Mt. Sinai Hospital, NY
Georgetown
Temple University, PA
Albany Med Center
U Florida COM
Tripler Army Medical Center-HI

cornell or columbia? super curious!

Anyone have suny stony brook's match list

see post #90 for stony brook. i'm a 4th year... shoot me questions if you have any

A MS-4 friend of mine said the way to look at match lists is to look at the IM matches since every school have a bunch of them, and look at where they matched. You can't make much of a decision from the # of people in dermatology since it's too variable and the sample size is too small, but if you can get a list of the past 2-3 years of match lists and just look at the various programs that IM students matched at, it would give you a good indication of the quality of the match list.

I don't know how accurate/inaccurate this advice is.

shaggy alfresco said:

A MS-4 friend of mine said the way to look at match lists is to look at the IM matches since every school have a bunch of them, and look at where they matched. You can't make much of a decision from the # of people in dermatology since it's too variable and the sample size is too small, but if you can get a list of the past 2-3 years of match lists and just look at the various programs that IM students matched at, it would give you a good indication of the quality of the match list.

I don't know how accurate/inaccurate this advice is.

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In before Law2Doc writes another essay about why this is crap



Also, someone on SDN did something like this a few years ago: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=389117

I didn't say I knew enough to make an informed decision. I was just repeating what I was told and why. Would like to know his opinion on why it doesn't matter.

shaggy alfresco said:

A MS-4 friend of mine said the way to look at match lists is to look at the IM matches since every school have a bunch of them, and look at where they matched. You can't make much of a decision from the # of people in dermatology since it's too variable and the sample size is too small, but if you can get a list of the past 2-3 years of match lists and just look at the various programs that IM students matched at, it would give you a good indication of the quality of the match list.

I don't know how accurate/inaccurate this advice is.

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I think that's pretty legit, but the problem is that it's going to be difficult to tell for a premed (or actually anyone who isn't in internal med or one of its subspecialties or applying to them) what a "good" IM program is. I have a vague idea which programs are top-flight, but certainly wouldn't be able to compare, for example, Sinai vs Cornell or BWH vs Penn.

The other question is what difference it makes, and IMO, you should be able to get where you want from any good academic program. Our schools gen surg program is pretty good, but certainly not top tier, yet two of our chiefs are starting fellowships at arguably the top places in their respective fields in ultra competitive fellowships (peds surg at bch, etc)

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I think that's pretty legit, but the problem is that it's going to be difficult to tell for a premed (or actually anyone who isn't in internal med or one of its subspecialties or applying to them) what a "good" IM program is. I have a vague idea which programs are top-flight, but certainly wouldn't be able to compare, for example, Sinai vs Cornell or BWH vs Penn.

The other question is what difference it makes, and IMO, you should be able to get where you want from any good academic program. Our schools gen surg program is pretty good, but certainly not top tier, yet two of our chiefs are starting fellowships at arguably the top places in their respective fields in ultra competitive fellowships (peds surg at bch, etc)

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True, I just look at the US news rankings. Maybe not the best, maybe not accurate, but it jives with the general feel I get reading the IM forums. Obviously I have no idea whether Michigan State or Wayne State has a better IM program, but I don't think any pre-med will be looking at it that closely. And I don't think anyone will try to compare Penn vs. Duke and try to rank.

That website (I have the subscription) ranks about the top 30 and even though I'm sure there are substantial disagreements, I bet at least 15 of those would make most people's top thirty. So if I were to take this into consideration, I'd just make an estimate on roughly the # of people matching into the top twenty or so and see if there is a significant difference. E.g, if I am looking at a school that, over the past three years, matched 5/85 IM into the top twenty vs. a school that matched 60/85 into the top twenty, maybe that'd be a significant indication.

Just playing devil's advocate here. I'm not going to use this to pick my med school. I have one criteria: it begins with a 'c' and rhymes with 'jost'.

drizzt3117 said:

I think that's pretty legit, but the problem is that it's going to be difficult to tell for a premed (or actually anyone who isn't in internal med or one of its subspecialties or applying to them) what a "good" IM program is.

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While this is true for most specialties, IM is generally the one specialty that correlates pretty well with school/overall institutional prestige. The top are generally considered UCSF, MGH, BWH, Penn, Duke, and Hopkins, followed by schools like Umich, WashU, Stanford, Columbia, etc.

DoctwoB said:

While this is true for most specialties, IM is generally the one specialty that correlates pretty well with school/overall institutional prestige. The top are generally considered UCSF, MGH, BWH, Penn, Duke, and Hopkins, followed by schools like Umich, WashU, Stanford, Columbia, etc.

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I know what the best programs are, my point is unless you are in the field or done a lot of research, how do you compare say, bwh and Penn? How would you know NYC schools are considered less desirable bc of nursing issues? Etc.

drizzt3117 said:

I think disinence's point is well-taken. For Neurosurg, dermatology, and a few other fields, chairman's letters are required even for away rotations. If there's not a process in place for that, the process will be much more stressful for a given specialty. Furthermore, if there isn't a tradition of mentoring in a given department, things again become more challenging. Finally, the student aspect is there too, if no one is matching into say, Neurosurg, there won't be a friendly m4 there to give advice to the m3s about to try to optimize their apps in a given field. Of course, PDs will also be less familiar with students from an institution if no one goes into it. My school didn't have anyone do optho this past year, which is a big issue for the ppl in my class who want to do it especially with it being early match.

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But I think the question really is whether you can or should infer that the lack of NS matches at a particular school implies that the infrastructure you're talking about (mentoring, etc) isn't in place, instead of any of the other highly likely and completely plausible reasons that most medical students don't go into NS/Rad Onc/whatever. Similarly, what's the predictive value of the lack of any optho match in your school's class for incoming 2015ers? I don't doubt that it's inconvenient for your MS3s for all the reasons you stated, but just wondering how helpful that lone piece of information is for people considering whether or not to attend your school.

Anyway, I think this discussion is somewhat moot, because despite whatever logic is thrown down, people will continue to pick schools based on match lists, number of students/body in anatomy lab, and how late the school's gym is open.

Ok2Panic said:

Anyway, I think this discussion is somewhat moot, because despite whatever logic is thrown down, people will continue to pick schools based on match lists, number of students/body in anatomy lab, and how late the school's gym is open.

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Hey, don't knock my priorities.

Ok2Panic said:

But I think the question really is whether you can or should infer that the lack of NS matches at a particular school implies that the infrastructure you're talking about (mentoring, etc) isn't in place, instead of any of the other highly likely and completely plausible reasons that most medical students don't go into NS/Rad Onc/whatever. Similarly, what's the predictive value of the lack of any optho match in your school's class for incoming 2015ers? I don't doubt that it's inconvenient for your MS3s for all the reasons you stated, but just wondering how helpful that lone piece of information is for people considering whether or not to attend your school.

Anyway, I think this discussion is somewhat moot, because despite whatever logic is thrown down, people will continue to pick schools based on match lists, number of students/body in anatomy lab, and how late the school's gym is open.

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Yeah exactly, interestingly enough at drizzt's school last year's match had 4 students matched into Ophtho. And that's the kicker, even if you have previous year's match lists, people will never fully understand a student's decision about his/her match list, nor the student's body of work (USMLE/grades/evals/EC's etc). Its a bad assumption made by some here, especially the thought that people maximize "prestige" over all other choices when it comes to the match. Unless you know the match applicant, how can anyone here identify the AOA applicant with a Step 1 of 250 who matched in IM at Minnesota because their family lives in the area? According to DoctwoB, that's a "bad" match, but in the end, how will anyone glancing at match lists know the full story? It is myths like that I just have to shake my head at.

In the end, the central assertion is that going to a competitive school will make up for any deficiencies in your application, and boost a below to average applicant into a superstar; likewise going to a "state" or non-competitive school will automatically be a negative for even the most competitive residency applicant. The reality of this assertion is that it is simply false. If you are a competitive applicant, it won't matter where you're from. Having a degree from a "prestigious" school will not morph a Step1 of 215 and average grades into a Step1 of 250 and AOA. Those schools don't have that kind of power, sorry to burst some people's bubbles.

A sad truth that some physicians in training don't learn, it is most important to attend a medical school/residency location that makes them happy. Whether it is family, friends, significant other, prestige, research opportunities, brand name... whatever makes a person happy, they should go there. Unfortunately many don't learn this lesson until applying for residency. Hence, IMO, more people stress happiness when applying for residency, but it is seemingly is downplayed when matriculating for medical school. Please, please people who read this, happiness is number one when making a decision about medical school, not some match list that is virtually impossible interpret despite the myths perpetuated by some in this thread. Don't let the performance and rank list choices made my some student you have never met, whose story you don't know, alter your decision about medical school. Go where you are happy, for whatever the reason(s) is/are.

Ok2Panic said:

But I think the question really is whether you can or should infer that the lack of NS matches at a particular school implies that the infrastructure you're talking about (mentoring, etc) isn't in place, instead of any of the other highly likely and completely plausible reasons that most medical students don't go into NS/Rad Onc/whatever. Similarly, what's the predictive value of the lack of any optho match in your school's class for incoming 2015ers? I don't doubt that it's inconvenient for your MS3s for all the reasons you stated, but just wondering how helpful that lone piece of information is for people considering whether or not to attend your school.

Anyway, I think this discussion is somewhat moot, because despite whatever logic is thrown down, people will continue to pick schools based on match lists, number of students/body in anatomy lab, and how late the school's gym is open.

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I mean, for our school, it's a non-issue because we have very strong optho and NS programs and this year a number of people are coming through the pipeline. It's a bigger deal when a school never sends people into NS or rad onc, and has a weak or non-existent department in that specialty.

OUTSTANDING match list results!!! not only in terms of #s but also programs matched

22 Anestheisa
28 EM
3 Ophtho
7 Ortho
4 ENT
2 Rad onc
16 Rads
plus 1 Derm, NS & Plastics...
relative to 24 IM & 12 FM

Anesthesiology (22)
Loma Linda University-CA
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL
Univ of Miami/Jackson Memorial Hosp-FL
NCC-Walter Reed Army Med Ctr-Washington-DC
Emory Univ SOM-GA
NYU School Of Medicine
U Southern California
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics
William Beaumont Hosp-MI
Cleveland Clinic Fdn-OH
St Barnabas Med Ctr-NJ
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL
Duke Univ Med Ctr-NC
U Illinois COM-Chicago
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY
U Southern California
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps
U Southern California
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL
Duke Univ Med Ctr-NC

Dermatology (1)
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN

Emergency Medicine (28)
U Illinois COM-Chicago
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY
SIU SOM & Affil Hosps-IL
U Florida COM-Jacksonville
Long Island Jewish Med Ctr-NY
U Illinois COM-Chicago
Baystate Med Ctr-MA
Michigan St Univ-Kalamazoo
Advocate Christ Med Ctr-IL
Einstein/Beth Israel Med Ctr-NY
Denver Health Med Ctr-CO
U North Carolina Hospitals
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
West Virginia University SOM
U Louisville SOM-KY
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
Cook County-Stroger Hospital-IL
Madigan Army Med Ctr-Tacoma-WA
William Beaumont Hosp-MI
Hennepin Co Med Ctr-MN
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN
Henry Ford HSC-MI
U Arizona Affil Hospitals
Einstein/Jacobi Med Ctr-NY
St John Hospital-MI
NYU School Of Medicine
Hennepin Co Med Ctr-MN
Allegheny Gen Hosp-PA

Family Medicine (12)
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
Advocate Christ Med Ctr-IL
Fam Med Residency of Idaho-Boise
MacNeal Mem Hosp-IL
O'Connor Hospital-CA
Tripler Army Med Ctr-Honolulu-HI
Alaska Family Med/Providence Hosp
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
VCU-Fairfax Family Med Res
Univ of Toronto-ON-Canada
St Josephs Reg Med Ctr-IN
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL

Internal Medicine (24)
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps
Hosp of the Univ of PA
Dartmouth-Hitchcock Med Ctr-NH
Univ of Chicago/North Shore-IL
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center-CA
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
UPMC Medical Education-PA
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN
UPMC Medical Education-PA
Dartmouth-Hitchcock Med Ctr-NH
Einstein/Beth Israel Med Ctr-NY
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps
U Iowa Hosps and Clinics
UC San Francisco-Fresno-CA
Loyola Univ Med Ctr-IL
Breznikar Oregon Health & Science Univ
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
UPMC Medical Education-PA
Rush University Med Ctr-IL
St Mary Med Ctr-Long Beach-CA
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
Baylor Coll Med-Houston-TX

Medicine-Pediatrics (1)
University at Buffalo SOM-NY

Medicine-Preliminary (20)
Mt Sinai Hosp Med Ctr-IL
UIC/Advocate Christ Med Ctr-Chicago
Englewood Hospital-NJ
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
Loyola Univ Med Ctr-IL
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
Illinois COM-Chicago
Loyola Univ Med Ctr-IL
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
U Illinois COM-Chicago
Santa Barbara Cottage Hosp-CA
U Illinois COM-Chicago
Olive View- UCLA Med Ctr-CA
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr
UIC/Advocate Christ Med Ctr-Chicago
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr
St Francis Hosp-Evanston-IL
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr

Neurological Surgery (1)
Wake Forest Baptist Med Ctr-NC

Neurology (4)
U Utah Affil Hospitals
U Illinois COM-Chicago
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics

Obstetrics-Gynecology (8)
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA
Kaiser Perm-Santa Clara-CA
Indiana Univ Sch Of Med
NYU School Of Medicine
Emory Univ SOM-GA
St Joseph Hosp-IL
George Washington Univ-DC
*Requested omission

Ophthalmology (3)
Univ of Maryland Med Ctr-MD
Loma Linda University-CA
Univ of Miami-Bascom Palmer Eye Institute-FL

Orthopaedic Surgery (7)
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics
NYU School Of Medicine
Henry Ford HSC-MI
Tripler Army Med Ctr-Honolulu
Michigan State Univ/McLaren Reg Med Ctr
Case Western/Univ Hosps Case Med Ctr-OH
University Hosps-Columbia-MO

Otolaryngology (4)
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA
Cleveland Clinic Fdn-OH
West Virginia University SOM
U Illinois COM-Chicago

Pathology (1)
U Colorado SOM-Denver

Pediatrics (19)
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
Childrens Hospital-LA-CA
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway
FSU-Sacred Heart Hospital-FL
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY
Childrens Hosp of Michigan
Northwestern McGaw/CMH-IL
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps
Johns Hopkins Hosp-MD
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY
Rush University Med Ctr-IL
Stony Brook Teach Hosps-NY
U Minnesota Med School
Advocate Lutheran Gen Hosp-IL
Rush University Med Ctr-IL
U Minnesota Med School

Phys Medicine & Rehab (4)
Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA
Loyola Univ Med Ctr-IL
U North Carolina Hospitals
U Colorado SOM-Denver

Plastic Surgery (1)
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark

Psychiatry (4)
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics
VA Greater LA Hlth Sys-CA
Rush University Med Ctr-IL

Radiation-Oncology (2)
McMaster Univ-Hamilton-ON-Canada
U Iowa Hosps and Clinics

Radiology-Diagnostic (16)
Cleveland Clinic Fdn-OH
U Texas Southwestern Med Sch-Dallas
U North Carolina Hospitals
Rush University Med Ctr-IL
Oregon Health & Science Univ
U Southern California
U Rochester/Strong Mem-NY
William Beaumont Hosp-MI
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr
Loma Linda University-CA
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA
Maricopa Med Ctr-AZ
Advocate IL Masonic Med Ctr
U Southern California
Loyola Univ Med Ctr-IL
Cleveland Clinic Fdn-OH

Surgery-General (7)
Banner Good Samaritan Med Ctr-AZ
Naval Med Ctr-San Diego-CA
U Massachusetts Med School
Kaiser Permanente-Los Angeles-CA
Morristown Mem Hosp-NJ
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps
Boston Univ Med Ctr-MA

Surgery-Preliminary (5)
U North Carolina Hospitals
St Joseph Hosp-IL
Huntington Memorial Hosp-Spalding,
Univ Med Ctr-IL
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark

Transitional (13)
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
St Lukes Med Ctr-WI
NCC-Walter Reed Army Med Ctr-Washington-DC
Emory Univ SOM-GA
Tucson Hospitals Med Ed-AZ
Providence Sacred Heart Med Ctr-WA
Wheaton Franciscan Healthcare-St Joseph-WI
MacNeal Mem Hosp-IL
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
Naval Med Ctr-San Diego-CA
St Joseph Hosp-IL
Weiss Memorial Hospital-IL
Resurrection Med Ctr-IL

I legitimately tried to search... but I couldn't find it.

Where is UCI's and UCLA's match list (recent and old if possible).

I tried combing through the "2011 match list" thread, but neither showed up.

I'd be interested in this as well

halethsonofhama said:

I legitimately tried to search... but I couldn't find it.

Where is UCI's match list (recent and old if possible).

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Guess you didn't search very hard. It was posted by a current student in the 2015 uci thread recently. Here it is:

2011 Match

U Maryland Med Ctr* Anesthesiology*
U Southern California* Anesthesiology*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Anesthesiology*
UCLA Medical Center-CA* Anesthesiology*

U Arizona Affil Hospitals* Dermatology*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Dermatology*

Case Western/Univ Hosps Case Med Ctr-OH* Emergency Medicine*
Harbor-UCLA Med Ctr-CA* Emergency Medicine*
Kern Medical Center-CA* Emergency Medicine*
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN* Emergency Medicine*
Stanford Univ Progs-CA* Emergency Medicine*
SUNY HSC Brooklyn-NY* Emergency Medicine*
U Nevada Affil Hosps-Las Vegas* Emergency Medicine*
U Southern California* Emergency Medicine*
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics* Emergency Medicine*
UC Davis Med Ctr-CA* Emergency Medicine*
UC Davis Med Ctr-CA* Emergency Medicine*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Emergency Medicine*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Emergency Medicine*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Emergency Medicine*
UC San Francisco-Fresno-CA* Emergency Medicine*
UCLA Medical Center-CA* Emergency Medicine*
Washington Hospital Ctr-DC* Emergency Medicine*

UCLA Medical Center-CA* Fam Med/UCLA/Santa Monica*
Contra Costa Reg Med Ctr-CA* Family Medicine*
Long Beach Mem Med Ctr-CA* Family Medicine*
Long Beach Mem Med Ctr-CA* Family Medicine*
Presby Intercommunity Hosp-CA* Family Medicine*
Sutter Med Ctr of Santa Rosa-CA* Family Medicine*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Family Medicine*

Albert Einstein Med Ctr-PA* General Surgery*
Maricopa Med Ctr-AZ* General Surgery*
UC Davis Med Ctr-CA* General Surgery*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* General Surgery*
UC San Francisco-CA* General Surgery*
UCLA Medical Center-CA* General Surgery*

St. Mary’s San Francisco-CA Internal Medicine
Harbor-UCLA Med Ctr-CA* Internal Medicine*
Kaiser Permanente-Oakland-CA* Internal Medicine*
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-AZ* Internal Medicine*
Scripps Mercy Hosp-San Diego-CA* Internal Medicine*
Stanford Univ Progs-CA* Internal Medicine*
Stanford Univ Progs-CA* Internal Medicine*
Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA* Internal Medicine*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Internal Medicine*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Internal Medicine*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Internal Medicine*

UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Medicine-Preliminary
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Medicine-Preliminary*
Alameda Co Med Ctr-CA* Medicine-Preliminary*
Huntington Memorial Hosp-CA* Medicine-Preliminary*
Kaiser Permanente-Oakland-CA* Medicine-Preliminary*
U Nevada SOM-Reno* Medicine-Preliminary*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Medicine-Preliminary*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Medicine-Preliminary*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Medicine-Preliminary*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Medicine-Preliminary*
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT* Medicine-Primary*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Med-Prelim/Neurology*

St Josephs Hospital-AZ* Neurology*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Neurology*

NYMC-Westchester/Metropolitan-NY* Obstetrics and Gynecology*
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center-CA* Obstetrics-Gynecology*
Kaiser Permanente-Los Angeles-CA* Obstetrics-Gynecology*
Kaiser Permanente-Oakland-CA* Obstetrics-Gynecology*
NYU School Of Medicine* Obstetrics-Gynecology*
UC Davis Med Ctr-CA* Obstetrics-Gynecology*
UC San Francisco-CA* Obstetrics-Gynecology*
UCLA Medical Center-CA* Obstetrics-Gynecology*
UCLA Medical Center-CA* Obstetrics-Gynecology*
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL* Obstetrics-Gynecology*

U Texas San Antonio Ophthalmology

U Illinois COM-Chicago* Orthopaedic Surgery*
U Southern California* Orthopaedic Surgery*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Orthopaedic Surgery*
UC San Francisco-Fresno-CA* Orthopaedic Surgery*

UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Otolaryngology*

UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Pathology*
UC San Francisco-CA* Pathology*

Baylor Coll Med-Houston-TX* Pediatrics*
Childrens Hospital-LA-CA* Pediatrics*
Childrens Hospital-LA-CA* Pediatrics*
Childrens Hospital-Oakland-CA* Pediatrics*
Childrens Hospital-Oakland-CA* Pediatrics*
Childrens Hospital-Oakland-CA* Pediatrics*
Childrens National Med Ctr-DC* Pediatrics*
Cincinnati Childrens Hosp MC-OH* Pediatrics*
Stanford Univ Progs-CA* Pediatrics*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Pediatrics/UCI-CHOC*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Pediatrics/UCI-CHOC*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Pediatrics/UCI-CHOC*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Pediatrics/UCI-CHOC*

UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Phys Medicine & Rehab*

UC San Francisco-CA* Plastic Surgery*

Einstein/Beth Israel Med Ctr-NY* Psychiatry*
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN* Psychiatry*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Psychiatry*
UC San Francisco-CA* Psychiatry*
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL* Psychiatry*
VA Greater LA Hlth Sys-CA* Psychiatry/UCLA/SFVP*

U Texas MD Anderson Cancer Ctr* Radiation-Oncology*
Santa Barbara Cottage Hosp-CA* Radiology-Diagnostic*
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Radiology-Diagnostic*

Brown U Boston-MA Surgery - Preliminary
Drexel Philadelpia-PA Surgery - Preliminary
Harbor UCLA Surgery - Preliminary
Loma Linda Univeristy Surgery - Preliminary
U Washington, WA Surgery - Preliminary
*U Colorado Surgery Preliminary
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA* Surgery-Prelim/Non-designated*
Harbor UCLA Surgery-Prelinimary
UC San Francisco-CA* Surg-Prelim/Plastic Surgery*

Merging related threads.

You have to email them. I don't think they post it.


EDIT: Jk I guess.

is UCLA's on here cause I didn't find it.

really... wtp is UCLA's

Has anyone found UC Davis's?

I'm really surprised by how many med students have matched into Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery programs. Some of these match lists (Mayo, Penn, Drexel, etc.) are giving me the impression that there is a growing interest in the field among med students, and that adcoms of those programs are becoming increasingly more receptive to applicants with MDs. Thoughts?

capnamerica said:

I'm really surprised by how many med students have matched into Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery programs. Some of these match lists (Mayo, Penn, Drexel, etc.) are giving me the impression that there is a growing interest in the field among med students, and that adcoms of those programs are becoming increasingly more receptive to applicants with MDs. Thoughts?

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I'm pretty sure those are dental students. I could be wrong.

mfrizzo3 said:

I'm pretty sure those are dental students. I could be wrong.

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MD students can go into oral and maxillofacial surgery programs as well. There are paths for going both ways.

Dr McSexy said:

MD students can go into oral and maxillofacial surgery programs as well. There are paths for going both ways.

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Which programs allow a straight MD to Oral Maxillofacial, without DDS/DMD?

still looking for UCLA's. Any help?

halethsonofhama said:

still looking for UCLA's. Any help?

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Did you get any email addresses from your guides during your interview day or second look? They keep the match list archive behind a firewall that the merely accepted don't have access to yet. I would recommend emailing a current student or the admissions office and see if they will provide you one.

Dr McSexy said:

MD students can go into oral and maxillofacial surgery programs as well. There are paths for going both ways.

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platformshoes said:

Which programs allow a straight MD to Oral Maxillofacial, without DDS/DMD?

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That's interesting, so I did a little digging. I found some old post that say Alabama and Penn offer such programs, but you have to get the DDS/DMD degree and then go into OMFS residency. I couldn't find mention of others and I'm not sure if these schools in particular still offer these routes.

Pons Asinorum said:

Did you get any email addresses from your guides during your interview day or second look? They keep the match list archive behind a firewall that the merely accepted don't have access to yet. I would recommend emailing a current student or the admissions office and see if they will provide you one.

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....I sometimes forget that there are other avenues of obtaining information beyond SDN. Thanks.

mfrizzo3 said:

That's interesting, so I did a little digging. I found some old post that say Alabama and Penn offer such programs, but you have to get the DDS/DMD degree and then go into OMFS residency. I couldn't find mention of others and I'm not sure if these schools in particular still offer these routes.

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Could you post links to these programs? I searched and the only route is by getting your DMD/DDS first, and then getting your MD through the OMFS residency...

http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/mdprogram/registrar/pdfs/match_results_802_public.pdf

Btw, thx gujuDoc 🙂

It seems like most schools had good matches this year and I congratulate everyone. Mercer was no exception - for a small, private school from the South that most people have never heard of, I think we did quite well.

Our focus on primary care is evident, and we matched at some powerhouse institutions. We also did great in the sub-specialties with ENT, rad-onc, rads, and ortho all being well-represented. Ortho in particular was impressive - 7 out of 8 who wanted ortho matched. Out of a class of 63, I'd say that's a good day.


Anesthesiology:

UT-Knoxville
UAB
MCG
Vanderbilt

Emergency Medicine:

Palmetto Richland (x2)
Emory
Emory
MCG

Family Medicine:

Emory
McLeod Regional

General Surgery:

UVA
Ohio State
Greenville
Mercer SOM - Macon
University of Nebraska
Wake Forest
UT-Chatt (prelim)
VCU (prelim)

Internal Medicine:

UVA
Baptist Health (Birmingham)
UAB
UAB
UAB
Greenville Health
Greenville Health
Greenville Health
Mercer SOM - Savannah
Mercer SOM - Macon
MUSC
UCSD
Wayne State

Med-Peds:

Stony Brook
Vanderbilt

Neurosurgery:

UT-Memphis

Ob/Gyn:

Bayfront Medical Center (FL)
Mercer SOM – Savannah
Mercer SOM – Macon
Mercer SOM - Macon
UTSW

Orthopaedic Surgery:

UF-Jacksonville
Greenville Health
Summa Health/NEOUCOM – Akron, OH
West Virginia University
UT-Chatt
University of Missouri – Columbia
Loma Linda

Otolaryngology:

VCU

Pediatrics:

University of Arkansas
University of Arkansas
Carolinas
SAUSHEC Brooke Army Med Center
FSU
Orlando Health
Einstein/Jacobi

PM&R:

UC-Irvine

Psychiatry:

Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt

Radiology – diagnostic:

Mercer SOM – Savannah
Mercer SOM - Savannah
UAB

Radiation Oncology:

UK

bump! this may or may not be useful info for those still trying to make last minute acceptance decisions

PSU has a nice match list!

I liked Jeff's this year too.

shaggy alfresco said:

I liked Jeff's this year too.

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Pennsylvania all the way! 👍

still looking for UCLA 2011 match list. Anyone have?

To all of you med-students students/pre-meds wanting to see match lists. There are MANY things wrong with your thinking/reasoning for wanting to see these match lists and I think you really need to gain a reality check.

Firstly -- the students that get admitted to those schools (top tier med schools (of which, I am a grad)) are usually extremely Type A, very, very hard working, and care more about prestige and rankings than many other things. Naturally, match lists from those schools (whose students are more likely to pursue those placements and do what it takes to get there) are going to reflect that. HOWEVER, there are MANY students from MANY other average to above average medical schools (as defined by the rankings (which are bogus) by US News) who match and fill those EXACT SAME RESIDENCY PROGRAMS.

The Message to you: IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU GO TO SCHOOL, BUT HOW WELL YOU DO. It's not the school that provides the strength of the match (although it does help a little, in my opinion) it's the student. Top tier schools are filled with more over-achieving students. Don't get confounded. You can do just as well going to an "average" school and being an excellent student, just like the students at Harvard are.

Another thing, I chose to go into family medicine, a very "non-prestigious" field at a place that was close to my family and would be a change for me. By the time it comes to apply for residency, your outlook, needs, and desires will be different. A LOT of my classmates interviewed at places that were regarded as "number 1 in this or leaders in that" and chose NOT to rank them highly on their lists. The places that were ranked number 1-5 in family med (ps- residency rankings are just as bogus as school rankings - all about $$, not strength of clinical training) were lowest on my list because I found their residents to be boring and full-of-themselves and their programs to be kinda weird. I chose a nice, solid, middle of the road program with strong foundations in what I want to learn.

I'd encourage you to look inward and stop worrying about rankings/match lists. If you wanna be a dermatologist, then be one. If you wanna be a family doc, do it! Don't judge anyone for their decisions or because they had the opportunity to do something that you didn't. Just work hard for your goals, be nice to everyone you meet, and live your life. Medicine is medicine.

Pitt's match list, re-posting without names.

Class of 2011

Anesthesiology–9

Beth Israel Deaconess Med Center, Boston MA
Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston MA (2)
Stanford University Programs, Stanford CA
University of Michigan Hospitals, Ann Arbor MI
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA (2)
University of Washington Affiliated Hospitals, Seattle WA (2)

Dermatology–3

Henry Ford Health System Center, Detroit MI
Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston MA
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA

Emergency Medicine–8

Christiana Care, Newark DE
Harbor-UCLA Med Center, Torrance CA
University Hospital, Cincinnati OH
University of Arizona Affiliated Hospitals, Tucson AZ
University of California, Davis Medical Center, Sacramento CA
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA (2)
Wayne State University/Detroit Medical Center, Detroit MI

Family Medicine–8

Alaska Family Med/Providence Hosp, Anchorage AK
Excela Health Latrobe Hosp, Latrobe PA
Exempla St Joseph Hosp, Denver CO
Forbes Family Medicine Monroeville PA
Mount Carmel Hosp System, Westerville OH
UPMC St Margaret, Pittsburgh PA (3)

Internal Medicine–30

Beth Israel Deaconess Med Center, Boston MA
Brigham & Women’s Hospital, Boston MA (2)
Cleveland Clinic Foundations, Cleveland OH
Duke University Med Center, Durham NC (2)
Einstein/Montefiore Medical Center, Bronx NY
Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore MD
New York Hospital Medical Center Queens, Flushing NY
Ochsner Clinic Foundation, New Orleans LA
Ohio State University Medical Center, Columbus OH
Rhode Island Hosp/Brown University, Providence RI
University Michigan Hospitals, Ann Arbor MI
University of California, Davis Medical Center, Sacramento CA
University of California Irvine Medical Center, Orange CA (2)
University of Michigan Hospitals, Ann Arbor MI
University Rochester/Strong Memorial, Rochester NY
University of Southern California, Los Angeles CA
University of Texas Southwestern Med School, Dallas TX
University Washington Affiliated Hospitals, Seattle WA
UPMC McKeesport, McKeesport PA
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA (7)
Yale-New Haven Hosp, New Haven CT

Preliminary Internal Medicine-1
University of Massachusetts Med School, Worcester MA

Primary Internal Medicine-2

New York University School of Medicine, New York NY
Rhode Island Hospital/Brown University, Providence RI

Internal Medicine/Pediatrics -2
Case Western/University Hospitals Case Medical Center, Cleveland OH
Ohio State University Medical Center, Columbus OH

Internal Medicine/Women's Health-2
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA (2)

Maxillofacial Surgery-2
UPMC Medical Education Program, Pittsburgh PA (2)

Neurological Surgery–4

Barnes-Jewish Hospital, St. Louis MO
New York Presbyterian Hospital-Weill Cornell Medical Center, New York NY
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA
Yale-New Haven Hospital, New Haven CT

Neurology–2

Einstein/Montefiore Medical Center, Bronx NY
Mt Sinai Hospital, New York NY

Obstetrics-Gynecology–7

Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Boston MA
Brown University/Women’s & Infants Hospital, Providence RI
FSU-Sacred Heart Hospital, Pensacola FL
New York Presbyterian Hospital-Columbia University Medical Center, New York NY
University of Connecticut Health Center, Farmington CT
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA
University of Tennessee COM-Memphis, Memphis TN

Ophthalmology–2

UPMC Medical Education Program, Pittsburgh PA (2)

Orthopedic Surgery–7

Albany Medical Center, Albany NY
Temple University Hosp, Philadelphia PA
University of Chicago Medical Center, Chicago IL
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA (3)
University Washington Affiliated Hospitals, Seattle WA

Otolaryngology–2

UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA (2)

Pathology–2

Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Boston MA
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA

Pediatrics–19

Baylor College Medicine-Houston, Houston TX
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA (5)
Children’s Hospital, Philadelphia PA
Children’s Hospital-LA, Los Angeles CA
Children’s Hospital-Oakland, Oakland CA
Children’s National Medical Center Washington DC
Hershey Medical Center/Penn State, Hershey PA
Jefferson Medical College/duPont Children’s, Philadelphia PA
Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals, Milwaukee WI
Phoenix Children’s Hospital, Phoenix AZ
St. Christopher’s Hospital, Philadelphia PA
University of Michigan Hospitals, Ann Arbor MI (2)
University of North Carolina Hospitals, Chapel Hill NC
University of Washington Affiliated Hospitals, Seattle WA

Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation-2

Northwestern McGaw/RIC, Chicago IL
University of Rochester/Strong Memorial Rochester NY

Plastic Surgery–2

Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore MD
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA, Chicago IL

Psychiatry–9

Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland OH
Hospital of the University of PA, Philadelphia PA
Jackson Memorial Hospital, Miami FL
Medical University of South Carolina, Charleston SC
New York University School of Medicine, New York NY
Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia PA
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA (3)

Psychiatry-Family Medicine-1
UPMC Medical Education, McKeesport PA

Radiation-Oncology–1

UCLA Medical Center, Los Angeles CA

Radiology Diagnostic–6

UCLA Medical Center, Los Angeles CA
University of California San Francisco, San Francisco CA
University of Chicago Medical Center, Chicago IL
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA
Vanderbilt University Medical Center, Nashville TN
Yale-New Haven Hospital, New Haven CT

Research-1

The Scripps Research Institute, San Diego CA

General Surgery–9

Brooke Army Medical Center, Ft Sam Houston TX
Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC
Stony Brook Teach Hospitals, Stony Brook NY
University of Florida College of Medicine-Shands Hospital, Gainesville FL
University of Washington Affiliated Hospitals, Seattle WA
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA (2)
Vanderbilt University Medical Center, Nashville TN (2)

Urology-4

Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC
Mayo Clinic, Rochester MN
New York University Medical Center, New York NY
Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, Nashville TN

Vascular Surgery-3

Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland OH
The University Hospital, Cincinnati OH
UPMC Medical Education, Pittsburgh PA

I didn't see WVU's match list on here, so I decided to post it.


Anesthesiology - 9
-Case Western Reserve Hospital
-UPMC
-U Texas HSC – San Antonio
-West Penn Hospital
-University of Chicago
-Medical University SC
-Univ Arizona Hospitals
-West Virginia University SOM

Child Neurology - 1
-Nationwide Children's Hospital/OSU

Dermatology - 2
-West Virginia University SOM
-Barnes-Jewish Hospital

Emergency Medicine - 6
-West Virginia University SOM
-U Louisville SOM
-Geisinger Health System
-Wake Forest Baptist Med Center
-Pitt County Memorial Hospital/Brody SOM

Family Medicine - 14
-Albany Medical Center
-Washington Hospital
-West Virginia University SOM
-West Virginia University SOM/Rural
-U Wisconsin SOM
-University of Kentucky
-Marshall University SOM
-St Louis University SOM
-Mountain Area Health Ed Center
-Charleston Area Medical Center/WVU

Internal Medicine - 13
-Charleston Area Medical Center/WVU
-Medical University SC
-West Virginia University SOM
-Allegheny General Hospital
-U Texas – San Antonio
-VA Medical Center – Boise
-UPMC
-Mount Carmel Health System
-University of Kentucky
-U Illinois COM
-University Hospital – Cincinnati

Medicine-Pediatrics - 4
-West Virginia University SOM
-Charleston Area Medical Center/WVU
-U Tennessee COM - Memphis

Neurology - 4
-West Virginia University SOM
-U North Carolina Hospitals
-University of VirginiaNeurology

Neurosurgery - 1
-Jackson Memorial Hospital

Obstetrics & Gynecology - 1
-East Tennessee State University

Ophthalmology - 3
-Loyola University
-University of Virginia
-West Virginia University SOM

Orthopedic Surgery - 2
-University of South Florida
-Allegheny General Hospital

Otolaryngology - 1
-U Louisville SOM

Pathology - 4
-UPMC
-West Virginia University SOM
-University of Virginia

Pediatrics - 11
-West Virginia University SOM
-Mayo School of GME
-Carolinas Medical Center
-UPMC – Children's Hospital
-U Tennessee COM – Memphis
-University of Virginia SOM
-U Minnesota Medical School
-Virginia Commonwealth Univ
-Nationwide Childrens Hospital/OSU
-U Louisville SOM

Plastic Surgery - 1
-U Kentucky Medical Center

Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation - 1
-NYU School of Medicine

Psychiatry - 9
-Ohio State University COM
-Northwestern McGaw
-West Virginia University SOM
-Oregon Health & Science Univ
-University of Virginia
-Howard University Hospital

Radiology - 6
-West Virginia University SOM
-Ohio State University COM
-UPMC
-Albany Medical College

Radiation Oncology - 1
-UPMC

Surgery - 9
-UPMC- Mercy
-Allegheny General Hospital
-West Virginia University SOM
-University of Virginia
-U Connecticut Health Center
-Charleston Area Medical Center/WVU
-East Tennessee State University

Transitional - 10
-West Virginia University SOM
-UPMC – Mercy
-U Tennessee COM
-Lemuel Shattuck Hospital

Does anyone have University of Rochester's match list? Also, a request, please spell out the entire name of your medical school - this makes searching much less of a pain.

If anyone wants to make links for each school, that would also be great.

Does anyone know where I can find the University of Utah match list? I looked all over and can't find it. Thanks.