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After monitoring/responding/reading posts on SDN over the last couple of months and beyond it seems to me that far less people who attend NYCOM seem to post on here, and also less people seem to be applying to the school among SDN-ers. Being one of my top chocies I'm rather curious about this. Seems strange that a good medical school, the biggest among ostepathic schools, and located in NY state receives less activity/chatter in the forums. Just something I found interesting.
 
yasha83 said:
After monitoring/responding/reading posts on SDN over the last couple of months and beyond it seems to me that far less people who attend NYCOM seem to post on here, and also less people seem to be applying to the school among SDN-ers. Being one of my top chocies I'm rather curious about this. Seems strange that a good medical school, the biggest among ostepathic schools, and located in NY state receives less activity/chatter in the forums. Just something I found interesting.

Hey, I think it has to do with new yorkers. We keep to ourselves and have very busy lives. I am right now looking for a job to make some money. I think most new yorkers would not give you the time or day and just want to be left alone. I too am wondering why there are not that many threads from current nycom students. I really want to get their input about the school!
 
ha...you've gotta ease up on the over-generalizations.....I'm a new yorker and don't really take offense to random people thinking that I would be rude to strangers just bc I'm from ny...but others may.....I believe its called stereotyping.....be careful w/ it...

my predicted response to my post: jeez..what a rude new yorker....couldn't even answer my damn question...I was right about them...
 
I think some of it has to do with the fact that NYCOM didn't start interviewing until Nov 29, and there have only been 2 or 3 adcom meetings, so there aren't too many people as psyched about NYCOM as the schools that have been accepting since early september. I am going to NYCOM, and I can't wait to hear from others. (I'm also a New Yorker, I don't know what that has to do w/ it tho).
 
I too am I New Yorker, so to me these generalizations have nothing to do with the discrepancy that I noticed, I was just curious if there were actual logistical or other reasons for this situation, which kind of bemused me. Also, I was hoping to get input about the school from current MS-I through MS-IV NYCOM-ers as I contemplate my acceptances...there werent many around which is why this kind of stuck out at me. It didn't even occur to me that I might have been implying anything else about New Yorkers 🙂
 
it wasn't you yasha...refer to dude11's post.....but it is funny when I think about how many people I grew up w/ on long island that do fit his description perfectly...I don't think I do (I may..who knows...) but I can easily see where that stereotype comes from...
 
NYCOM is one of three schools I had an interview, with UMDNJ and UNECOM being the others. At the other 2 schools I had many students on different occassions come to my interview group to say hi and tell us the fine things about their school. I did not see this at NYCOM. It seems this extends to the board as well. I asked this question before and wondered if they have a very active web board and don't post here. I'm not sure what to make of it myself.
 
HunterGatherer said:
NYCOM is one of three schools I had an interview, with UMDNJ and UNECOM being the others. At the other 2 schools I had many students on different occassions come to my interview group to say hi and tell us the fine things about their school. I did not see this at NYCOM. It seems this extends to the board as well. I asked this question before and wondered if they have a very active web board and don't post here. I'm not sure what to make of it myself.


HI Guys,

I am an MS 1 at NYCOM. It's a great school. Why people don't post? No idea. But I remember thinking a lot of the same things last year. It's kind of good that people have better things to do than surf SDN.

Good Luck to all,

PM me if any relevant questions.
 
Hi Everyone....

I am a NYCOM first-year and a member of the Student Ambassador Society (fancy name given to the admissions tour guides). In any event, anyone who has any questions regarding NYCOM or medical school in general, please feel free to PM or IM me. Good Luck to you all - in four short years, you will all be DOCTORS!! 😀
 
By the by....

I have lived in NYC all of my life and I can't possibly understand why people think we are so rude 🙄

Again, any questions, feel free!!
 
There are many Nycom'ers on this forum. At a minimum, just browsing. Others inactive, I would guess. This is too good a resource to ignore completely. I've been on here for over 5 years.

And I've seen some of you guys on the interview trail -- many of your questions about the school begin, "I read on the student doctor website that..." Not initially, but once you warm up and drop your guard you just can't help the freudian slip 😀
 
We have a very active webboard on the school website.

Plus, I'm so busy with school I rarely have time to post on this board.

Either way it's a great school...probably one of the best osteopathic in the country. The clinical rotations are the pride and gem of the school so certainly take a look at NYCOMEC, their hospital system.

PM me with any questions and I'll try and get back to you.
 
If the current NYCOM students could check out the class of 2010 thread that would great. There aren't too many questions yet but i'm sure things will change in the next few months. 🙂
 
HunterGatherer said:
If the current NYCOM students could check out the class of 2010 thread that would great. There aren't too many questions yet but i'm sure things will change in the next few months. 🙂

HG would you mind reading over my NYCOM secondary. I have an interview there on Wed of this week. PM me with your e-mail address so I can send the attachment.

NUKID
 
NYCOM secondary= BULL

All they want to hear is some nice things and money.
 
My inputs about the school are.
It is very expensive.
Admission staff are very rude and unorganized.
They treat you as a number not as a human.
I am from NY and I get accepted to NYCOM but I am going to VCOM.
If you went to other school for interview you will know how bad is NYCOM.

Good luck
 
When I applied to NYCOM they sent me a letter saying there was no secondary until you get invited for the interview, if one was granted? Is this the case for everyone, just thought id mention it as it seemed a bit different from all the other schools.

John
 
JO300 said:
My inputs about the school are.
It is very expensive.
Admission staff are very rude and unorganized.
They treat you as a number not as a human.
I am from NY and I get accepted to NYCOM but I am going to VCOM.
If you went to other school for interview you will know how bad is NYCOM.

Good luck
If you went to other school for English, you would know how bad is your writing. :laugh: Sorry I couldn't resist.
 
johnnymat said:
When I applied to NYCOM they sent me a letter saying there was no secondary until you get invited for the interview, if one was granted? Is this the case for everyone, just thought id mention it as it seemed a bit different from all the other schools.

John
I think so...that's how it worked for me. They send you the secondary to bring with you to the interview.
 
cool, glad to hear- its a good system, saves times and $$ so im not complaining, just making sure thats how its supposed to work.

PlasticMan said:
I think so...that's how it worked for me. They send you the secondary to bring with you to the interview.
 
This is normal for NYCOM and all of their applicants do it this way. I'm pretty sure it is the only school that does not waste your time with a secondary if they don't plan to interview you based on stats.

johnnymat said:
When I applied to NYCOM they sent me a letter saying there was no secondary until you get invited for the interview, if one was granted? Is this the case for everyone, just thought id mention it as it seemed a bit different from all the other schools.

John
 
dude11 said:
Hey, I think it has to do with new yorkers. We keep to ourselves and have very busy lives. I am right now looking for a job to make some money. I think most new yorkers would not give you the time or day and just want to be left alone. I too am wondering why there are not that many threads from current nycom students. I really want to get their input about the school!


😱 oh man...
 
I don't care what anyone says. I love NYCOM 😍 SO those who don't agree can kiss my tushy! Any school will have probs, deal with it. I'm doing fine, I still manage to have a life and do well in school. What else do you need?
 
maybe other schools get alot of posts b/c they are in hick towns with nothing better to do. azcom, usucom, unecom.
nothing to do there but to post actively on sdn.
thankfully i am going to nycom next year and not to somehwere in idahowa.
 
JO300 said:
My inputs about the school are.
It is very expensive.
Admission staff are very rude and unorganized.
They treat you as a number not as a human.
I am from NY and I get accepted to NYCOM but I am going to VCOM.
If you went to other school for interview you will know how bad is NYCOM.

Good luck

Like anywhere, I'm sure the experience of interviewing differs from individual to individual. The admission staff was nothing if not courteous, polite and on top of the status of my application. I hate to break it to you, but education is a business, hence you're a number anywhere you go; location will not change that. Medical school is a big decision, it seems a little obtuse to me to make such a big decision based on the way a representative of admissions treated you. Even if this is not the case, unsure applicants looking for advice might get the wrong idea from your post.
 
yasha83 said:
Like anywhere, I'm sure the experience of interviewing differs from individual to individual. The admission staff was nothing if not courteous, polite and on top of the status of my application. I hate to break it to you, but education is a business, hence you're a number anywhere you go; location will not change that. Medical school is a big decision, it seems a little obtuse to me to make such a big decision based on the way a representative of admissions treated you. Even if this is not the case, unsure applicants looking for advice might get the wrong idea from your post.
To clarified my post I would like to say same facts.
1- 300 students is too much.
2- Tuition and housing are too much.
3- The anatomy lab is too old.
4- when you go for interview and you sit in the hole way and no one talk to you from the admission is too rude.
5- After your interview you go to the admission office and ask for the interviewers name and the the admission staff tell you they do not know any of the interviewer names because they are new professor too ridiculous.
6- the woman who give us the admission presentation could not answer any of our questions about the school beause she was new, it is too fun.
7- did any one of you imagined that half of the class decided to ask the professor questions after the lecture or they want to his at her office. to me it is too Hilarious.
8- as the financial lady said "you have to take our loan if you did not you on your own" it sound too musical.

I am not try to start war. I am just saying my opinion.
The only reaseon for anybody to go to NYCOM is:
1- close to manhattan
2- Sorry I can not think of any other reason.

I apologize for any spelling and grammar mistakes.
I hope you guys get my point.
 
I'm not sure how you are helping other NYCOM applicants. Everyone already knows how expensive NYCOM is and NYC. A number of your comments don't make sense or is wrong.

Obviously you have strong opinions on why you don't like NYCOM. Now we all know them. Spend your energies on something positive like posting in VCOM threads about how great VCOM is.




JO300 said:
To clarified my post I would like to say same facts.
1- 300 students is too much.
2- Tuition and housing are too much.
3- The anatomy lab is too old.
4- when you go for interview and you sit in the hole way and no one talk to you from the admission is too rude.
5- After your interview you go to the admission office and ask for the interviewers name and the the admission staff tell you they do not know any of the interviewer names because they are new professor too ridiculous.
6- the woman who give us the admission presentation could not answer any of our questions about the school beause she was new, it is too fun.
7- did any one of you imagined that half of the class decided to ask the professor questions after the lecture or they want to his at her office. to me it is too Hilarious.
8- as the financial lady said "you have to take our loan if you did not you on your own" it sound too musical.

I am not try to start war. I am just saying my opinion.
The only reaseon for anybody to go to NYCOM is:
1- close to manhattan
2- Sorry I can not think of any other reason.

I apologize for any spelling and grammar mistakes.
I hope you guys get my point.
 
JO300 said:
3- The anatomy lab is too old.

7- did any one of you imagined that half of the class decided to ask the professor questions after the lecture or they want to his at her office. to me it is too Hilarious.

I figured I would check back on this thread to answer any questions; but I guess I'll be the first to respond to this without wasting too much of my own time...

Our anatomy lab is on the top floor of the Riland building, built in 1979. It gets more natural sunlight than most greenhouses and is one of the most beautiful anatomy labs I have seen at any school I interviewed at (it rivals NYMC's anatomy lab which is considered one of the best in the country.) There are televisions within view at every dissecting station for prosection demonstrations by our anatomy faculty, most of which are paleontologists and are very active in research. The anatomy and OMM labs are two of the schools greatest assets, so it baffles me when you describe it as "too old." I guess you havn't interviewed too many places to compare it to other schools. (?)

Now, your comment medical student staying after to ask the professor a question amuses me!
The professors spend 10 mins over every break, 15 mins after every class, an hour or two in their office hours, and hours upon hours answering emailed questions based on course content. This happens at every level of education...why would this be a negative??

NYCOM is a big school with many positives and negatives. I think its great that there is a discussion on the board regarding these, but please get your facts straight! Sharing personal opinions is great when it is helpful to other students, but with the attitude and tone of some of these postings I think there are some angry rejected applicants looking for some sort of webboard revenge.

Good luck in all of your applications, and remember to respect your colleagues!
 
JO300 said:
To clarified my post I would like to say same facts.
1- 300 students is too much.
2- Tuition and housing are too much.
3- The anatomy lab is too old.
4- when you go for interview and you sit in the hole way and no one talk to you from the admission is too rude.
5- After your interview you go to the admission office and ask for the interviewers name and the the admission staff tell you they do not know any of the interviewer names because they are new professor too ridiculous.
6- the woman who give us the admission presentation could not answer any of our questions about the school beause she was new, it is too fun.
7- did any one of you imagined that half of the class decided to ask the professor questions after the lecture or they want to his at her office. to me it is too Hilarious.
8- as the financial lady said "you have to take our loan if you did not you on your own" it sound too musical.

I am not try to start war. I am just saying my opinion.
The only reaseon for anybody to go to NYCOM is:
1- close to manhattan
2- Sorry I can not think of any other reason.

I apologize for any spelling and grammar mistakes.
I hope you guys get my point.

Every school has their problems. Hell, I was told at my very first interview, LECOM-ERIE, not to call the admissions office with any questions. Then again, people I talk to now that want to go there love the school. It is all about matching, the school matches you and you match the school. If it doesn't happen, its like a bad date. Go to bed, sleep it off and, most of all, get over it. I second Hunter. 👍
 
Our anatomy lab is on the top floor of the Riland building, built in 1979.
so I was right it is too old


It gets more natural sunlight than most greenhouses
wowowoowo


and is one of the most beautiful anatomy labs I have seen at any school I interviewed at
I guss you interviewed at NYCOM only. if you do not mind can you tell us where you get accepted inaddition to NYCOM if there is any.

(it rivals NYMC's anatomy lab which is considered one of the best in the country.)
which country you talking about I am sure you do not mean USA

There are televisions within view at every dissecting station for prosection demonstrations by our anatomy faculty, most of which are paleontologists and are very active in research. The anatomy and OMM labs are two of the schools greatest assets,
TV wowow it is 2006 and you spending a lot of many at NYCOM and you happy with just TV. I am sure you did not see many Labs.

so it baffles me when you describe it as "too old." I guess you havn't interviewed too many places to compare it to other schools. (?)
I did interviewed at many school and I get accepted in manyand one of them NYCOM

Now, your comment medical student staying after to ask the professor a question amuses me!
The professors spend 10 mins over every break, 15 mins after every class, an hour or two in their office hours, and hours upon hours answering emailed questions based on course content. This happens at every level of education...why would this be a negative??
Can you tell me how many name any proffessor can know in a class of 300 students. and if you ask for recommendation do you think he will remember you.

NYCOM is a big school I know that 300 student in each class it is so big with many positives and negatives. I think its great that there is a discussion on the board regarding these, but please get your facts straight!
My fact is ok I did not see anyone saying this is not true. may be you did not see it but it is there. or may be you did not have the option to go samewhere else but same people do

Sharing personal opinions is great when it is helpful to other students, but with the attitude and tone of some of these postings I think there are some angry rejected applicants looking for some sort of webboard revenge.
I got acceptanced into NYCOM but I reject NYCOM since my interview day.

Good luck in all of your applications, and remember to respect your colleagues!
I believe that I did not disrespect anyone. I am just saying my opinion.
you have to know that the truth some time hurt.

I am sorry if I offended anyone but it is my opinion.
and if NYCOM was the only school accepted me I was going to go there and I will be happy. but thank god I have option.
 
I saw the anatomy labs at UNECOM and UMDNJSOM and I feel like the Anatomy lab at NYCOM was way nicer. Maybe it is older...but still very impressive. I have decided to go to NYCOM among these 3 schools and although the large class size is my greatest concern, I consider doing well in such a setting to be more of a challenge than at a smaller school. To me, the NYCOMEC schools also seem better than the 3 other osteo schools' (Ive applied to) clinical systems save perhaps PCOM.

I applyed to PCOM to but i think they lost my app. since I havent heard anything from them.
 
visited and accepted to UNECOM and UMDNJ and agree. More than likely I will go to NYCOM if accepted.

Just because a building was built in 1979 does not mean it needs to be torn down and rebuilt. 🙄

JO300,
LORs for residencies come from clinicals not your basic sciences LOL! Wow!! Good one though. I needed the laugh. Please spend time in other threads. You seem less and less informed with every post.

Mike2010 said:
I saw the anatomy labs at UNECOM and UMDNJSOM and I feel like the Anatomy lab at NYCOM was way nicer. Maybe it is older...but still very impressive. I have decided to go to NYCOM among these 3 schools and although the large class size is my greatest concern, I consider doing well in such a setting to be more of a challenge than at a smaller school. To me, the NYCOMEC schools also seem better than the 3 other osteo schools' (Ive applied to) clinical systems save perhaps PCOM.

I applyed to PCOM to but i think they lost my app. since I havent heard anything from them.
 
HunterGatherer said:
JO300,
LORs for residencies come from clinicals not your basic sciences LOL! Wow!! Good one though. I needed the laugh. Please spend time in other threads. You seem less and less informed with every post.

I never said the recomendation letter will be for residencies, you assumed that.
NYCOM may be good for many but for other is not.
I like to have relationship with my calssmates and proffessors.
I like the staff to be nice and the school to be High tech.

if you want to see labs go see VCOM.
 
You're saying that you are not trying to disrespect anyone, yet your behavior towards buffalomoose was downright trollish, imho.
 
JO300 said:
I never said the recomendation letter will be for residencies, you assumed that.
NYCOM may be good for many but for other is not.
I like to have relationship with my calssmates and proffessors.
I like the staff to be nice and the school to be High tech.

if you want to see labs go see VCOM.


Can someone close this thread? It is getting rather pointless now.
 
Wow JO300, it seems as if you certainly made the correct decision in not attending NYCOM. Its a shame that you had an unpleasant visit, but your "premed attitude" as it is currently will certainly not translate into success as a physician. I think the only thoughtful statement you made in your rambling mess was

NYCOM may be good for many but for other [sic] is not.

I hope that throughout your 4 years at whatever school you attend, you develop an understanding of professionalism and tact. It is important to remember the difference between academic debate and simple minded banter.

Good luck
 
Jamers said:
Can someone close this thread? It is getting rather pointless now.

I agree that someone should close the thread but not becasue it is pointless.
but because some people take it personaly more than it is just discussion.
Good luck to all of you at NYCOM or anywhere else.
 
HunterGatherer said:
visited and accepted to UNECOM and UMDNJ and agree. More than likely I will go to NYCOM if accepted.

Just because a building was built in 1979 does not mean it needs to be torn down and rebuilt. 🙄

JO300,
LORs for residencies come from clinicals not your basic sciences LOL! Wow!! Good one though. I needed the laugh. Please spend time in other threads. You seem less and less informed with every post.
Wow, HG can we hear your reasons for liking NYCOM over UMDNJ-SOM ? I thought if one was accepted to both, most people would choose UMDNJ b/c of the tuition difference. I'm interested to hear what is swaying you towards NYCOM.
 
To clarified my post I would like to say same facts.
1- 300 students is too much.
This is an opinion, not a fact. Most students don't mind the company.
4- when you go for interview and you sit in the hole way and no one talk to you from the admission is too rude.
The door is 3 feet away, you're welcome to go inside and ask to speak with anyone from admissions. Passing judgment on the school based on the interview process is the hallmark of bitterness and insanity. You need to get a clue.
TV wowow it is 2006 and you spending a lot of many at NYCOM and you happy with just TV. I am sure you did not see many Labs.
I've seen the labs of 6 allopathic schools while interviewing. NYCOM's lab compares favorably.
Can you tell me how many name any proffessor can know in a class of 300 students. and if you ask for recommendation do you think he will remember you.
The same holds true for a lecture class with 20 students. If you want a deeper relationship you can kiss ass after class is over. For the few circumstances you would need an LOR from basic science faculty, most will be happy to sit down with you for 30-minute chat, get to know you, and then write you a letter.
you have to know that the truth some time hurt
The truth, JO300, is that your ignorance is embarassing. Go learn how to spell and stay far away from NYCOM.
 
I interviewed at GWU, UVT, NSU, and WesternCOMP.

Besides GWU, which i liked b/c it had a very modern hospital RIGHT there and was in the heart of DC, i think NYCOM was the best.

I do agree that one of the main appeals of NYCOM is its being in NYC (or VERY close).

Clinicals and residency are VERY important. NYCOM has these in great hospital in , hardly arugably, the best city in the US (if not the world).


The class IS huge. Who cares. Do you need personalized attention? feel unwanted? You learn b/c of how you study, not how much attention a professor gives you.


Their anatomy lab is excellent. Better than NSU or Western or UVT. GWU had a similiar one. Whats wrong with a TV. A TV can project very high tech computer programs, obviously you are not watching TV but using it as a screen.
Being light is important. Dissecting can be gruesome (for some) and its nice to have a nice place to do it in.


Regarding sitting in the hallway. Tough ****. You should spend that time preparing your Q's and your answers. This happened at EVERY interview i was in. (maybe not a hallway but still a wait).

NYCOM is NOT significantly more expensive than other schools. Besides UMDNJ, so why would someone choose nycom over umdnj begs to be answered.


Sorry for the length.
 
beastmaster said:
This is an opinion, not a fact. Most students don't mind the company.

The door is 3 feet away, you're welcome to go inside and ask to speak with anyone from admissions. Passing judgment on the school based on the interview process is the hallmark of bitterness and insanity. You need to get a clue.

I've seen the labs of 6 allopathic schools while interviewing. NYCOM's lab compares favorably.

The same holds true for a lecture class with 20 students. If you want a deeper relationship you can kiss ass after class is over. For the few circumstances you would need an LOR from basic science faculty, most will be happy to sit down with you for 30-minute chat, get to know you, and then write you a letter.

The truth, JO300, is that your ignorance is embarassing. Go learn how to spell and stay far away from NYCOM.

😕 wowow this is how they are teaching you in NYCOM to handle discussion and conflict. or you got that from your home.
I did not ask anyone to agree with me. I am just trying to say my opinion.
I am sure that the students at NYCOM better than that but It make sence they are try to get 300 students and some time unqualified students get in.
Good luck in improving your communication skills.
BTW I am working on my spelling. as you see I am practicing with you 😀 .
 
JO300 said:
😕 wowow this is how they are teaching you in NYCOM to handle discussion and conflict. or you got that from your home.
I did not ask anyone to agree with me. I am just trying to say my opinion.
I am sure that the students at NYCOM better than that but It make sence they are try to get 300 students and some time unqualified students get in.
Good luck in improving your communication skills.
BTW I am working on my spelling. as you see I am practicing with you 😀 .


We understand you are not asking everyone to agree with you. However, you come off arrogant the way you trash NYCOM thats all. I am happy you found a school that you like and will enjoy learning at. Some people find that NYCOM is that place so stop being so obnoxious.
 
JO300 said:
I am sure that the students at NYCOM better than that but It make sence they are try to get 300 students and some time unqualified students get in.
Good luck in improving your communication skills.
This is extra funny coming from you, seeing how your MCAT score is below 20 with a verbal of 4.
 
beastmaster said:
This is extra funny coming from you, seeing how your MCAT score is below 20 with a verbal of 4.

NO! He didn't get into NYCOM with that score did he?!?!?!?
 
USArmyDoc said:
NO! He didn't get into NYCOM with that score did he?!?!?!?
Quoted from another thread:
JO300 said:
I will start this year. and I love VCOM.
The campus is high tech and every one is nice and willing to help you anytime.
housing is cheap. and VT is a plus.
I got accepted from LECOM and NYCOM But I am going to VCOM.

Not sure of his MCAT score though other than what was mentioned above.
 
My MCAT is < 20 but I got into every school I interviwed at.
I am sorry guys I did not mean to upset you.
 
beastmaster said:
This is extra funny coming from you, seeing how your MCAT score is below 20 with a verbal of 4.
I am not sure if you get it or not but going to medical school need more than MCAT score. I hope you agree once with me.
Thank you.
 
JO300 said:
I am not sure if you get it or not but going to medical school need more than MCAT score. I hope you agree once with me.
Thank you.


You are absolutely correct. Good luck with your future endeavors.
 
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