Integrated Programs

pagemmapants · Oct 30, 2007

Since I can't find an easily-accessible list of integrated programs anywhere, I decided to engineer one for others that might be curious. Please let me know if I'm missing anything.

Stanford
USC
Loma Linda
Georgetown
University of South Florida
Hopkins
Brigham & Young/Harvard
UMich
Wake Forest
Yale
UVA
UPitt
Albany
University of Nevada
UC Irvine
Northwestern
Southern Illinois
University of Kansas
University of Kentucky
UMiss-Columbia
U of Cincinnatti
Baylor
UT-Galveston
UT-Southwestern: 5 YEARS
Medical College of Wisconsin: 5 YEARS
UWisc: 5 YEARS

Pir8DeacDoc · Oct 30, 2007

Dartmouth has a program taking one intergrated resident every other year.

pagemmapants · Oct 30, 2007

One every other year? Oddest thing I've heard in a while. Ok, good to know. 🙂 Thanks, Pir8.

joco7788 · Oct 30, 2007

UMDNJ-NJMS has a combined program. It is currently a 5 year program (3 + 2) but it might get extended to a 6 year program.

blz · Oct 30, 2007

NYU has a 6 year (3 + 3) program.

plastikosmd · Oct 31, 2007

blz, i ...think... the OP was only listing/looking for integrated programs...Brown is also a 3/3 but it is a combined program, as is NYU and a bunch of others...you still match directly out of med school, you spend more time on general surgery your first 3 years than plastic or other services, (some programs you rotate through various services ....the perpetual rotator.) also you really gotta look at the curriculum, some are integrated in name only...really a combined program. As far as difference....the plastic training and requirements are the same, you still graduate as a plastic surgeon, it is just how the program was originally formed and who handles managing your schedule during the initial portion of the training. for a combined program the general surgery department handles all of your rotations, schedule, etc, for the non-plastic portion of your training. a true integrated program will be managed by the plastic department and they tell you where you will rotate, when, and with what service (some it may be all general surgery....others you may rotate with gen surg, then other blocks with other services.)

blz · Oct 31, 2007

plastikosmd said:
blz, i ...think... the OP was only listing/looking for integrated programs...Brown is also a 3/3 but it is a combined program, as is NYU and a bunch of others...you still match directly out of med school, you spend more time on general surgery your first 3 years than plastic or other services, (some programs you rotate through various services ....the perpetual rotator.) also you really gotta look at the curriculum, some are integrated in name only...really a combined program. As far as difference....the plastic training and requirements are the same, you still graduate as a plastic surgeon, it is just how the program was originally formed and who handles managing your schedule during the initial portion of the training. for a combined program the general surgery department handles all of your rotations, schedule, etc, for the non-plastic portion of your training. a true integrated program will be managed by the plastic department and they tell you where you will rotate, when, and with what service (some it may be all general surgery....others you may rotate with gen surg, then other blocks with other services.)

oh ok...thanks for the clarification. 👍

plastikosmd · Oct 31, 2007

anytime...🙂

pagemmapants · Nov 1, 2007

At least that means there are *more* straight-out-of-med-school programs than just the ones designated as "integrated" on the accreditation website. . .

So let's start a combined list, too!

Combined Programs
NYU
UMDNJ-NJMS
Brown

abcxyz0123 · Nov 2, 2007

"Brigham and Young/Harvard"? Man, r u on crack?

plastikosmd · Nov 2, 2007

go to http://www.plasticseducation.com/

off to the right of your screen should be the list of programs offering interviews last year, there are always a couple new, and a couple dropping out..but this will help you get started

diosa428 · Nov 7, 2007

seth03 said:
"Brigham and Young/Harvard"? Man, r u on crack?

Hahaha

pagemmapants · Nov 8, 2007

diosa428 said:
Hahaha

Ok, fine. So I made a typo.

Brigham and Women's Hospital/Harvard Medical School Program [3602421135]

So sue me for growing up in a town with lots of freakin' mormons.

DrDarwin · Dec 23, 2007

Combined Programs
Brown
UMDNJ-NJMS
NYU

droliver · Dec 23, 2007

I believe the Plastic Surgery RRC has mandated the elimination of "combined" programs in the near future to fall in line with their preferred curriculum for the integrateds.

maxheadroom · Dec 24, 2007

As I understand it, the combined programs won't disappear. The big change was the requirement that you either have complete GenSurg training, or you proceed to Plastics training after at least three years of GenSurg AT THE SAME INSTITUTION. No more doing three or four years and then going PRS somewhere else. I know a couple of people at my place who were hoping for that.

The bigger question is how are independent programs going to react to the requirement of THREE years of PRS training and some of the required areas that most independent programs probably don't cover. While the forced conversion of all programs to an integrated model (per the ACGME's directive) appears to be stalled for a while, most of the independent programs are going to have to fund a third year and work out relationships with several other departments in order to get their residents the training that the RRC says that they need.

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