
But...I was rejected from 17 schools in two years. If I don't get at least an offer or two, that'll bump it up to somewhere around 30. Don't be jealous.
Because this is technically my third round, I may be rejected the same 3 schools 3 times. Beat that! That's nine rejections from only 3 institutions.
Pretty pitiful, huh?
I was at LEAST expecting an interview! Nothing. Turns out it may not have been the best research match anyways, though its a fantastic school, but still!
Back on topic....13 applications and 10 rejections for me. I got in someplace I'm very happy with though, so that's all that matters.

One of the schools I interviewed at last year didn't even bother to tell me I was rejected. After spending a weekend with me, you'd think they'd at least bother to send me a rejection letter. Apparently, I wasn't all that memorable.
Any rejections this year so far?
Nah, it's far too early for that... unless you REALLY suck, in which case you probably wouldn't have done enough research to find this website.
Mark
Wow, I must REALLY suck because I got my rejection from Loyola Chicago last week!


That is awful! They could at least delay it a few weeks so it would seem as if someone actually looked at your application.
Wow, I must REALLY suck because I got my rejection from Loyola Chicago last week!
Wow, I must REALLY suck because I got my rejection from Loyola Chicago last week!
They auto-reject for GRE's less than 1100 and with average GRE's exceeding 1300 and average GPA's of 3.91 last year, this is not an easy school to get into.
Eeek, sorry you were rejected from U of Tulsa (I'm from there and have friends there in undergrad). I see you're from Winston-Salem. You woldn't happen to go to Salem Women's College, would you? My sister-in-law teaches there. (I apologize for the off-topicness)
Graduate Admissions Committee
Department of Psychology
Big Deal University
Collegeville, USA
Dear Committee Members:
Thanks for your letter of March 30. After careful consideration, I regret to inform you that I am unable to accept your rejection at this time.
This year I have been particularly fortunate in receiving an unusually large number of rejection letters. With such a varied and promising field of schools, it is impossible for me to accept all refusals.
Despite your outstanding record and previous experience in rejecting applicants, I find that your rejection does not meet my current career needs. Consequently, I will begin taking classes as a graduate student in your department this August. I look forward to seeing you then.
Best of luck in rejecting future applicants.
Sincerely Yours,
[name withheld]
That's fantastic. Sorry to hear you were rejected, though! My SIL's name is Edyta O...she teaches English. Apparently, some consider her an ogress, but she's really pretty great.
Eeek, sorry you were rejected from U of Tulsa (I'm from there and have friends there in undergrad). I see you're from Winston-Salem. You woldn't happen to go to Salem Women's College, would you? My sister-in-law teaches there. (I apologize for the off-topicness)

I am sorry to hear that. I am really surprised you got a rejection this early in the running. It's uncommon for prepared applicants, which I am sure that you are. Not to try to sugar coat it, but sucking is a relative term. My application would have surely sucked at University of Michigan (which I applied to anyway and was summarily rejected from) but would be amongst the top of the pile at Forrest Institute of Professional Psychology.
They auto-reject for GRE's less than 1100 and with average GRE's exceeding 1300 and average GPA's of 3.91 last year, this is not an easy school to get into. I have no idea what your credentials are, I am not gonna hazard a guess, but in Loyola's eyes... you weren't ever gonna make it.
The important thing is to figure out why. Because if you are a strong applicant academically then you need to look carefully at your personal statement and your letters of reference. I have trouble believing that you would have not researched the program and known how hard it was to get in since you made it here, so now the question is what went wrong. Don't worry, I was told early and often how bad I sucked my first time around, and that was with a 1300 GRE and a 4.0 GPA. Turned out that I was doing a poor job of matching myself to programs and expressing that interest in my personal statement effectively.
Mark
I went to Salem. What's her name? What does she teach?
Back to the main topic at hand, I essentially received my (unofficial) first rejection from UAB-no invite to the interview. So I did some digging around to feel better, and found a letter that I thought people would get a kick out of:How to Respond to a Rejection Letter
Ever wish you had a clever way to answer all those rejection letters? Here's how one graduate applicant chose to respond:
Graduate Admissions Committee
Department of Psychology
Big Deal University
Collegeville, USA
Dear Committee Members:
Thanks for your letter of March 30. After careful consideration, I regret to inform you that I am unable to accept your rejection at this time.
This year I have been particularly fortunate in receiving an unusually large number of rejection letters. With such a varied and promising field of schools, it is impossible for me to accept all refusals.
Despite your outstanding record and previous experience in rejecting applicants, I find that your rejection does not meet my current career needs. Consequently, I will begin taking classes as a graduate student in your department this August. I look forward to seeing you then.
Best of luck in rejecting future applicants.
Sincerely Yours,
[name withheld]
Hey Mark,
I know you posted this awhile ago but I was wondering if you could explain what you were doing wrong? (if you don't mind) It is a pretty big fear of mine that I am messing up personal statements (my academic/GRE stats are similar to what yours were) and I fear that not really effectively selling myself might mess up my chances! How did you figure out what you were doing wrong?
Thanks!
Well it took a while and a lot of internal honesty. At first I pondered the possibility that the fact that I was an older non-traditional student who was not exactly the affirmative action poster child may have impacted my chances. I used to joke that if my name were Pedro Hernandez and I was 25, things would be easier. It didn't take long to realize that even if this were the case, that short of making a new identity that I would have to accept the fact that I was a 40 year old white male (which did limit my scholarship opportunities as an undergrad.)
In reality, I called the schools, incredulous that I didn't get a single interview opportunity at schools that I should have had a solid chance at. Sure, I understood why Yale wasn't calling, but I had no idea why University of North Texas didn't call! I was very picky my first time around, Oklahoma State University and University of North Texas were my "safety schools." I wanted in at a top notch program and I was determined to do so.
REALITY CHECK.
At the point I was applying I was a Junior, with a 4.0 GPA and 2 semesters as an R.A. and just beginning data collection on my Honors Thesis. I had only been in college for 3 semesters. (I CLEP'd 56 credit hours my first semester and transferred 24 credits from military schools.) I had a total of less than 40 credit hours of verifiable coursework. My transcripts looked strange to say the least (I finished my degree in 5 semesters.) Still these were not the things that killed my packet.
The biggest single killer? I did a poor job of matching and of networking.
Improving my matches is what made the largest difference for me. I also revealed far more about myself in my personal statement. I clearly laid out my intended career trajectory and how I felt that the school I was applying to lent itself to the completion of my goals. I would dare say that my essays were more selfish than they had been the previous year.
I went to a number of conferences (3) that year that I had before I could apply again. I networked and discussed with professors what had happened to me and listened to suggestions that they had regarding my applications. I visited programs prior to the application season in order to meet faculty and express interest in the department. This led to several interviews and in not applying to a few as well. Arizona State University made it quite clear that I simply did not have enough research experience to make the cut and told me why I did not have a competitive application within their program, I instead applied to their counseling program where I was interviewed and a far better match.
Going to the interviews that I did get was a real eye opener, the competition is stiff!!! Once you get past the GRE/GPA hurdle, those two factors mean NOTHING!!! It's all about what you can bring to the program, and many have extensive research experience, masters degrees, or both! I interviewed at several programs my second time through only to meet applicants that made me look unqualified.
Don't be afraid to be yourself (unless you are a serial killer or other sociopath) and don't be afraid to express your expectations.
Visit programs and conferences, track down and talk to the professors you want to work with. It makes a HUGE difference when you meet them at a professional conference and express obvious interest in the field and their research.
Match yourself carefully with the programs and mentors. Know who you want to work with and why you want to work with them.
Don't be afraid to call programs and ask what the reason was that you were not selected.
Apply to programs you have a realistic chance at gaining admission at. It's not easy, also don't be afraid to reach for a few stars... pick intelligently.
Mark
PS - I forgot to add, all that hard work, it was worth it!!! Every bit of it paid off.
Hey Mark,
Thanks very much for that. I've done a lot of that work this year (networking,etc) and I have gotten some really great feedback but I do fear my statements were not personal/ 'selfish' enough......there's always that balance of wanting to express your interests but also wanting to fit well, and it is sometimes difficult to get a read on what kind of people you are applying to.
Anyways, I am very glad things worked out! You seem fairly qualified to me!
Thanks very much for the advice and the sharing.
You have potential to beat my record... I hope you don't... How ever will I hold on to the angst otherwise?!?
Mark

Ok, you guys are not thinking like the true PhDs such as myself (or soon to be). What's the deal the numbers of schools you got rejected from? The number is worthless unless you provide also the total number of schools you applied to. I think we need to establish a rule for this thread: report percentages. I, for example, was rejected from exactly 90% of clinical PhD programs (I applied to 10 and got only 1 interview) and was offered admission to my safety school (which itself had about 56 applicants per available slot!). One may call me crazy. I prefer to think that I am not -- just a little dumb is all. I should've applied to a better spread of programs as opposed to all elite schools.
I am done with my program by the way and am going on my internship this year. But, dammit, I should've gotten my hands on that rejection response letter that is posted above, I would've gotten some good use out of it 4 years ago!![]()
I think if you read the two posts that you quoted you will see that total numbers are posted. As for not thinking like a Ph.D.? Hmmm, I thought that's what I was going to school for.
As far as the data goes, there is too much unexplained variance to make it useful as it stands. You would need considerably more than just percentages to make the information useful, but you already know that. So why report percentages when they don't add to the understanding of the raw data?
Is your 90% comparable with my 61%? More to the point what does that data tell you... Nothing. Because my first year I had 2 interviews (with safety schools Michigan State University and Oklahoma State University) resulting in a 13% interview rate and a 52% rate the next year (my safety schools were considerably more safe, Indiana University of PA, Our Lady of the Lake University) strangely my interviews at competitive programs increased as much as safety school interviews. Without me going into some depth, any conclusions reached would be guessing and nothing else.
The data is meaningless though... Nothing substantial changed from year 1 to year 2 other than my application essay. To chastise people for improper data presentation in an informal internet thread is a little anal, don't you think?
Mark
PS - Congrats on making it through to the other side.
damn, what is your problem?Actually, my comment was a tongue-in-cheek one. Thus, the smiley at the end of it. Wasn't this thread marked as a "rejection HUMOR thread?" But I am sure you are the only person who took my posting as a serious challenge to the quasi-scientific approach of this thread. Your response is absolutely hilarious, which, I suspect, may hurt your ego a bit. Take it as an opportunity to learn to relax once in a while and not take things too seriously. Believe me, it'll help you through the grad school.
That's funny! I must disagree: humor transmits very well over the web, particularly in threads that are marked as "humor." That ought to be a good clue, huh? Don't take it too seriously.Actually, my comment was a tongue-in-cheek one. Thus, the smiley at the end of it. Wasn't this thread marked as a "rejection HUMOR thread?" But I am sure you are the only person who took my posting as a serious challenge to the quasi-scientific approach of this thread. Your response is absolutely hilarious, which, I suspect, may hurt your ego a bit. Take it as an opportunity to learn to relax once in a while and not take things too seriously. Believe me, it'll help you through the grad school.
Actually, no it didn't come through that way. Looked like you were laughing about the rejection letter and that was it. I really am not so emotionally invested in this thread that I can't laugh.
LOL, Speaking of damaged ego's, I could poke a bit of fun at you too... but it all seems rather pointless.
Mark
I was just rejected from my #1 choice. The best part? I told them they were my #1 in my Personal Statement, and put many reasons why I really wanted to attend their school, specifically. In terms of clinical, research, and curriculum opportunities.
I knew it was coming, but still.

On a related note.... that's something I haven't thought of before--telling EVERY program I applied to that they are my #1 choice! I wonder if you would've felt better if you did that?![]()
I was just rejected from my #1 choice. The best part? I told them they were my #1 in my Personal Statement, and put many reasons why I really wanted to attend their school, specifically. In terms of clinical, research, and curriculum opportunities.
I knew it was coming, but still.