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Do we have enough results to start a thread?
Do we have enough results to start a thread?
http://www.natmatch.com/aoairp/schltot.htm
1. MSU-COM 67.1%
2. LMU-DCOM 52.8%
3. PCOM 51.7%
4. WVSOM 50.7%
4. LECOM 50.7%
5. OSU-COM 50.5%
http://www.natmatch.com/aoairp/schltot.htm
1. MSU-COM 67.1%
2. LMU-DCOM 52.8%
3. PCOM 51.7%
4. WVSOM 50.7%
4. LECOM 50.7%
5. OSU-COM 50.5%
http://www.natmatch.com/aoairp/schltot.htm
1. MSU-COM 67.1%
2. LMU-DCOM 52.8%
3. PCOM 51.7%
4. WVSOM 50.7%
4. LECOM 50.7%
5. OSU-COM 50.5%
TouroCOM 46.4% matched. 58.9% participated. A 21% scramble/"better hope ACGME was kind" rate. Great job first graduating class!!
this of course toasts the 40% scramble rate at Touro-CA and the 35% scramble rate at Touro-NV.
Some more schools and their scramble rate. Doing it alphabetically but i gotta go for a bit, so someone pick up where i left off.
ATSU 16% scramble
DMU 25.5%
GAPCOM 34.2%
KCOM 21.7%
KCUMB 25%
LECOM 22.3%
LECOM-BRAD 19.8%
LMU-DCOM 20.7%
MSU 15.7%
Although the percentages above are informative, I do think they are somewhat misleading because you are not taking into account the number of students entering the allopathic match. Universities with large amounts of Allopathic applicants will have far worse 'appearing' percentages if just listed as is above.
I think a better measuring stick of how each university did during this year's Osteopathic match, would be to view the percentages of "Non-Matched" students at each University in the above link. For example, 1. UNECOM @ 4.9% (35 out of 41 matched)
Are you saying those that didn't match=scramble?
ummm..I think you mean 14.6% unmatched... (6 divided by 41 = 14.6%). The percentage on there is the ratio of unmatched folks to the entire class, even though less than half of most classes entered the match. Kind of a worthless measure if you ask me.
It would actually take a lot of number crunching to see who was the lowest unmatched. It's actually kind of scary how many people didn't match in the osteopathic match![]()
ummm..I think you mean 14.6% unmatched... (6 divided by 41 = 14.6%). The percentage on there is the ratio of unmatched folks to the entire class, even though less than half of most classes entered the match. Kind of a worthless measure if you ask me.
It would actually take a lot of number crunching to see who was the lowest unmatched. It's actually kind of scary how many people didn't match in the osteopathic match![]()
In my opinion, that is the most accurate way to assess the Osteopathic match However, as mentioned above, that does not take into account those students only going for one spot in the DO match, and then planning on going for backups in the MD match if that one spot doesn't work out.
Are you saying those that didn't match=scramble?
no. this is the number of AOA scrambles (so applied and didnt get a spot)/ number of AOA applicants.
And while yes, there is a gamesmanship of people who may apply for DO derm and optho even though they likely dont qualify when they really want ACGME IM.
I will admit that happens. But correct me if I'm wrong, but that cannot possibly be more than a few people per class. Especially given that if you scramble on the ACGME after that move you're really in deep doodoo (yes i said doodoo). So yea, while I cant go and measure out who was doing the AOA match 'hipster style' (aka ironically), can we assume that the rate of such people is 1) small and 2) probably equal across the schools. So its not a factor we need to adjust for, beyond just admitting that its a possibility.
Don't some people also apply AOA and then don't rank any programs, thereby allowing them to continue the ACGME while giving them a back-up by letting them scramble AOA should they not match into ACGME?
TouroCOM 46.4% matched. 58.9% participated. A 21% scramble/"better hope ACGME was kind" rate. Great job first graduating class!!
this of course toasts the 40% scramble rate at Touro-CA and the 35% scramble rate at Touro-NV.
I can tell you being from Touro CA that a high percentage of our students are likely aiming for MD residencies.
53% of your students (which is only a few percent below the highest) didnt even enter the AOA program at all. Still, those who did faired poorly. I guess your school would have the best argument for most poeple who enter it just incase they strike gold in the AOA. but still i, personally, think that number of people is still prob pretty low.
It would seem to me that a low match rate is a sign that a majority of the applicants were probably using the AOA match as a back-up option, mostly due to wanting to match on the west coast, but probably for other reasons as well. The MD match seems to be the major focus for most of the class of 2011 students whom I have been in contact with this year, so I'll be wishing them success and hoping to update this thread with some great results. 🙂
Those statistics don't mean a thing. Even the "didn't match," even though those stats are slightly more telling.
just curious... is there a limit to the number of specialties you can apply for?
thanksno. Just how much you can afford to pay for.
just curious... is there a limit to the number of specialties you can apply for?
Our actual results (sorry, I don't have percentages of who didn't match, etc)
i don't know. i was just asking. i'm not close to applying for residency. just curious.Not that I know of, but why would you??
I have some classmates who applied to multiple specialties, but most of those were folks going for ortho while also ranking some Gen surg spots. I don't know of anyone who applied to more than 2 specialties.
Not that I know of, but why would you??
Our actual results (sorry, I don't have percentages of who didn't match, etc)
These lists are way to early to publish. For starters, not all students are doing the AOA match. A good number of my classmates are doing the allopathic match, there for those results will not be available until after March 15 or whatever day the match is.
To answer the above question, you can rank as many places as your little heart desires. But you can only match to 1 place. And if you plan on doing both the AOA and the AMA match realize this, that once you match into the AOA program, you are automatically pulled from the AMA match.
When you match to a program, this is a binding contract. You have agreed to attend their program for at least 1 year. Therefor you need to make sure that whatever you put on your list, you intend to attend if you match there. That being said, remember that everything costs money. So for the first bunch of programs you list, it is free after that it will cost you per program.
Finally, as stated before, these are very preliminary results and do not reflect those that did not participate in the AOA match so they can participate in the AMA match. Wait one more month for the final results.
I am no where near applying for residency but was reading through this forum for information and resource for later on. So for those who want to specialize in an M.D. residency (ACGME), do they even apply for the AOA residencies at all since they'll risk the chance of matching into an AOA and get pulled from the ACGME list? But what happens if you don't even match to the ACGME list at all? what then? 😕
I am no where near applying for residency but was reading through this forum for information and resource for later on. So for those who want to specialize in an M.D. residency (ACGME), do they even apply for the AOA residencies at all since they'll risk the chance of matching into an AOA and get pulled from the ACGME list? But what happens if you don't even match to the ACGME list at all? what then? 😕
while it think that is possible, i dont think that more than a few people nationwide do this.
the AOA scramble is 30 days before the ACGME. the spots left over would be dismal. You're infinitely better off with the ACGME scramble at that point. Though i can see the logic if you're okay with doing a traditional in the middle of nowhere.
This is exactly what I plan to do - Apply to both matches and interview to both AOA and ACGME programs. If I get a good feeling about programs in the ACGME world, I just won't rank any DO programs. I'll look like I failed to match but I will have ranked 0 programs. If I really like something in the DO world, I'll rank them.
I know for a fact that some DO programs wait until after the ACGME match to fill the last of their Scramble spots. Heard that from the guy that runs our GME program not more than a week ago.
Just a 2nd year here, but can anyone tell me if the IM program out of the Berkshires in MA filled? I'm just curious as that's one of the only AOA IM programs in New England.
UNECOM/BERKSHIRE MEDICAL CENTER - PITTSFIELD. Is that what you're talking about? If so, the IM program is 1 resident. Also, it didnt fill in the match proper as its one spot was listed as still open on the scramble list.
http://www.osteopathic.org/inside-a...g/match-program/Pages/2011-match-results.aspx
Yes, that's what I was talking about. One resident? Wow. I didn't know any program had only one resident. And it didn't even fill. That's worrisome.
So does that mean that as a DO, I can apply it for it through the AOA or the ACGME or do I have to apply through the AOA?