2011 D.O. Match Results

[PHDO]

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I said before that I dont buy in for a second on that "some people register AOA but dont mean it" nonsense since it realistically cant be a lot of people per school but is probably about the same amount of people per school. And the people who do it are either taking a big risk of matching into something they dont really want to match into, or are wasting their time and energy (and money?) applying when they 1) dont intend to match and 2) wont be able to use that scramble list 30 days after its released. Not given the number of people scrambling who are legit about it. I just dont see "applying but not intending to match" ever happening.

Many of these people are likely intending to match ACGME. To have the fallback of an AOA transitional year, you must be registered for the Osteopathic Match. However, given that matching AOA pulls you out of the running for the ACGME match, one who is gunning for an Allo spot will rank no Osteo spots, thus leaving the possibility of such a fallback.

As TrueBlueBlazer has correctly stated, many transitional programs wait until after the ACGME match to fill their posts hoping to snag well qualified candidates that just didn't happen to match in the Allo world.

Check your facts before slinging your personal opinions.

 

[peppy]

To have the fallback of an AOA transitional year, you must be registered for the Osteopathic Match.

It wouldn't surprise me if some people do think that because the allopathic scramble requires you to be registered ahead of time to get the unfilled program list, but the osteopathic scramble list is widely publicized and you don't have to be registered with the AOA match to be considered for an osteopathic scramble spot.
In my case, I originally signed up for the AOA match but then withdrew when I decided to try the MD match. When I went unmatched in the MD match, I used the public list of unfilled TRI programs, called the places to see if the spot was open, and sent them my info through ERAS. That was all that was needed.

 

[DocEspana]

Check your facts before slinging your personal opinions.

until trublazer and you everyone has informed me that programs that open after the acgme are exceedingly rare. While they could be wrong, i'm going to choose, this one time, to be close minded and assume their very education opinion is probably accurate. (see: my relative. Involved in the match at the federal level)

you also dont need to be registered with the AOA match to use their scramble. Common misconception because 100% of allopathic people are registered for the ACGME match and 100% can do that scramble. But registering for the mathc is not required to scramble in it, at least for the AOA (I do assume its the same for the acgme though)

 

[Doctor4Life1769]

Peppy,

How tough was it to match into a good TRI?
Which TRI did you pursue?
Any strategies? I feel that I could be in a similar situation if things don't fall my way...

There is one in OH that I interviewed at, I couldn't interview at 3 others due to conflicting dates with my specialty interviews... of those 3, one of them filled completely (Illinois Masonic) and the 2 in NY did not... spoke with West Penn and they said that whatever they don't fill goes into the MD transitional match... and they didn't have a lot match DO TRI anyway. So, I wasn't sure if a majority of these dually-accredited TRI's took what was left and dumped it into the MD side... leaving not many decent quality DO TRI options?? Not sure... maybe they misunderstood me or I misunderstood them... all I know is that there was a crap ton of DO TRI's in the scramble this year and I'd rather go into a decent program...
Thanks for the help!

It wouldn't surprise me if some people do think that because the allopathic scramble requires you to be registered ahead of time to get the unfilled program list, but the osteopathic scramble list is widely publicized and you don't have to be registered with the AOA match to be considered for an osteopathic scramble spot.
In my case, I originally signed up for the AOA match but then withdrew when I decided to try the MD match. When I went unmatched in the MD match, I used the public list of unfilled TRI programs, called the places to see if the spot was open, and sent them my info through ERAS. That was all that was needed.

 

[Patel1268]

Some may or may not enter the AOA match, just depends on what they want. If you have your heart set on an ACGME spot and wouldn't be happy at any AOA spot then you may not rank any, but if there were a few AOA programs you wouldn't mind being at then rank those and if you match then you match.

And like other have said above, sometimes someone may even apply to a few super competitive AOA spots (dermatology, etc...) that are a reach while realistically going for something like an ACGME IM.

And like what was already said, if you don't match you enter the scramble, which basically means you look up which programs have spots left open and start making calls. The issue with sitting out the AOA match is that if you don't match ACGME then the AOA scramble has already been going on for a month and spots filling up, so you pretty much are looking scrambling for an ACGME spot.

Now if one were to apply to a particular MD IM and a couple competitive AOA derm programs, would you have to tell any of the residency programs or indicate anywhere that you've applied to both?

And, if you were to apply to multiple specialties such as derm/rad in one match (AOA), would you have to indicate anywhere to the individual residency programs you are interviewing at that you've applied for multiple specialties?

 

[fergustsi]

how can they dump unfilled spots in the md match? the acgme match requires programs report # of positions they are putting up for the acgme match by january 31. this is well before the osteo match so how could they know how many slots to send to the acgme match? any unmatched DO spots cant be dumped into the acgme pool, itd be too late. unless they were implying they were dumping them in the acgme scramble?

Peppy,

How tough was it to match into a good TRI?
Which TRI did you pursue?
Any strategies? I feel that I could be in a similar situation if things don't fall my way...

There is one in OH that I interviewed at, I couldn't interview at 3 others due to conflicting dates with my specialty interviews... of those 3, one of them filled completely (Illinois Masonic) and the 2 in NY did not... spoke with West Penn and they said that whatever they don't fill goes into the MD transitional match... and they didn't have a lot match DO TRI anyway. So, I wasn't sure if a majority of these dually-accredited TRI's took what was left and dumped it into the MD side... leaving not many decent quality DO TRI options?? Not sure... maybe they misunderstood me or I misunderstood them... all I know is that there was a crap ton of DO TRI's in the scramble this year and I'd rather go into a decent program...
Thanks for the help!

 

[Doctor4Life1769]

how can they dump unfilled spots in the md match? the acgme match requires programs report # of positions they are putting up for the acgme match by january 31. this is well before the osteo match so how could they know how many slots to send to the acgme match? any unmatched DO spots cant be dumped into the acgme pool, itd be too late. unless they were implying they were dumping them in the acgme scramble?

I am applying through the MD match, and wanted to see if any of those spots would still be open and they said they had no interest to fill after 2/15 12pm and that those spots would go for the MDs. However, my only guess would be that these guys likely don't fill the slots through ANY scramble, and whoever matched into one of their MD programs and happen to be DOs get these TRI slots integrated as their intern years prior to PGY-2 slots and beyond. Sucks...

 

[Everglide]

http://www.com.msu.edu/admissions/2011OsteoMatch.TXT

Obviously only the osteo results as of right now.... I don't think the class of 2011 has even seen this list yet haha.

 

[DbDan]

http://www.com.msu.edu/admissions/2011OsteoMatch.TXT

Obviously only the osteo results as of right now.... I don't think the class of 2011 has even seen this list yet haha.

Pretty impressive. Noticed a Neuro Surg, couple of Anesthesia and ~4 ortho.

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

that is making me wish i was a michigan resident. well done.