Odd interview

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Goneril

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Recently I had a very odd interview experience. I'm still trying to digest the experience.

A little background: I'm a US MD grad applying to a 3-year residency program. I have a significant red flag on my application that caused me to not match last year. I am currently reapplying. I have a hand full of interviews this time, so each one matters. The interview in question was arranged by a family friend who works at the hospital; i.e. he pulled some strings to get me the interview. The place is in a major southern city and most of the residents have been historically D.O.s or FMGs. They take in <10 interns per year.

I will enumerate the oddities:

1. The email interview invite contained only one date, no other options for interview date. There was an option as to what time I would interview though. So, I thought this was odd, but I rationalized that since it was getting late in the interview season for a small program, that I was being squeezed in after they have finished conducting all of their interviews.

2. I was the only applicant there that day.

3. I met directly with the program director, and only the program director. I barely even said hello to the program coordinator. And although we conversed for almost 45 minutes, the program director is the only person I met. In fact, I was surprised he was the PD, because another person is listed on FREIDA as the PD.

4. There was no tour, no discussion about the curriculum, about the hospital, the program.

5. I did not meet one resident.

In conclusion, I'm feeling bummed out. I feel this was a sham interview. And although I feel I had a substantive discussion with the PD for the most part, I feel that he was bull-****ting me also at times. I've met quite a few PDs and am now getting good at seeing through their crap. The more I think about this experience, the more I alternate between laughter and anger. But honestly, I think I've been hosed.
 
Not to pounce on the negative vibes column, but you experienced a courtesy interview.

A few attendings have discussed such a thing around SDN, I didn't really see any examples until I came across your post.

Since you have other interviews on hand, and are a US grad, worry not.. you shall match ofcourse.
 
This is so messed up. How was it even worth it to do that, even if it is a courtesy? And were you not supposed to realize this wasn't totally a sham? Or at least, not typical? lol I don't care what the applicant has on his record or how desperate you think they are, no one deserves to be treated like that.

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It looks like a courtesy interview. The thing to remember is that the courtesy was not to you, it was to your family friend.

One of the many difficulties inherent in pullling strings is that you can never guarantee what will happen as a result..
 
Wow that seems really unprofessional to offer a courtesy interview, not to mention very unfair to the applicant who has to spend a lot of money (and time) to make it to the interview under the assumption that it's a real interview. I don't see why the PD couldn't just say "no" to the person who tried to pull strings for his friend. How common is this type of practice?

I have a similar situation and I don't know what to make of it. I was offered an interview late in the season (just a week ago) and I"m not a very competitive applicant. The PC emailed me the schedule and the interview is only 1.5 hours! I've never even heard of anythign that short. I'm scheduled to meet with the PD and 3 other faculty members...but there's no indication of a tour of the hospital or time to meet with residents. I'm starting to get apprehensive...the ticket to fly there is over $400, not to mention hotel expenses.
 
Wow that seems really unprofessional to offer a courtesy interview, not to mention very unfair to the applicant who has to spend a lot of money (and time) to make it to the interview under the assumption that it's a real interview. I don't see why the PD couldn't just say "no" to the person who tried to pull strings for his friend. How common is this type of practice?

I have a similar situation and I don't know what to make of it. I was offered an interview late in the season (just a week ago) and I"m not a very competitive applicant. The PC emailed me the schedule and the interview is only 1.5 hours! I've never even heard of anythign that short. I'm scheduled to meet with the PD and 3 other faculty members...but there's no indication of a tour of the hospital or time to meet with residents. I'm starting to get apprehensive...the ticket to fly there is over $400, not to mention hotel expenses.

Why is it unprofessional? More unprofessional than using a family friend to try and gain an interview that one couldn't earn independently? The applicant asked for something outside the norm, and that's what he or she got. Maybe the PD thought that he or she would do a quick screen, and if the candidate had any merit turn it into a real interview. And then the candidate wasn't that impressive.

As for your situation: it's up to you. There is a 100% chance that you won't match in that program if you don't interview. How much of a risk you are willing to take is up to.
 
Wow that seems really unprofessional to offer a courtesy interview, not to mention very unfair to the applicant who has to spend a lot of money (and time) to make it to the interview under the assumption that it's a real interview. I don't see why the PD couldn't just say "no" to the person who tried to pull strings for his friend. How common is this type of practice?

I have a similar situation and I don't know what to make of it. I was offered an interview late in the season (just a week ago) and I"m not a very competitive applicant. The PC emailed me the schedule and the interview is only 1.5 hours! I've never even heard of anythign that short. I'm scheduled to meet with the PD and 3 other faculty members...but there's no indication of a tour of the hospital or time to meet with residents. I'm starting to get apprehensive...the ticket to fly there is over $400, not to mention hotel expenses.

It's not unprofessional, it's a "foot in the door". Otherwise you don't get an opportunity to pitch your wares. Sure, the decks are stacked against you when a program didn't see fit to interview you on their own volition, but that doesn't mean a courtesy interview has never turned into a job. It's more of a 1 in a Million shot and you really ave to wow them, but there's still a shot. When you realize it's a courtesy interview you need to do more of a hard sell, though, because you aren't there because they expect to want to hire you. But a good salesman will tell you that if you get inside the office and are given a few minutes of pitch time, and the product is good, you ought to be able to close the deal.
 
OP, why do you think that person you interviewed with would waste 45 minutes of his time just to mess with you? It was definitely a real interview. It just wasn't at the level of other applicants it seems and the program didn't feel obliged to give away an interview slot to you. So you got a separate courtesy interview. If you impressed the guy he may decide to put you on his rank list. If not then oh well. He may have been an "associate" PD and not the head guy. He can still chime in and rank people on the program's list.

Obviously your "significant red flag" is what is causing this. It shouldn't come as surprising that a competitive program didn't want to interview you outright. It is what it is. Hopefully you find a spot this year.
 
Pretty much everyone at my school gets this kind of interview at our home program, so bear in mind, it might also have been just about as good as it gets...
 
Recently I had a very odd interview experience. I'm still trying to digest the experience.

A little background: I'm a US MD grad applying to a 3-year residency program. I have a significant red flag on my application that caused me to not match last year. I am currently reapplying. I have a hand full of interviews this time, so each one matters. The interview in question was arranged by a family friend who works at the hospital; i.e. he pulled some strings to get me the interview. The place is in a major southern city and most of the residents have been historically D.O.s or FMGs. They take in <10 interns per year.

I will enumerate the oddities:

1. The email interview invite contained only one date, no other options for interview date. There was an option as to what time I would interview though. So, I thought this was odd, but I rationalized that since it was getting late in the interview season for a small program, that I was being squeezed in after they have finished conducting all of their interviews.

2. I was the only applicant there that day.

3. I met directly with the program director, and only the program director. I barely even said hello to the program coordinator. And although we conversed for almost 45 minutes, the program director is the only person I met. In fact, I was surprised he was the PD, because another person is listed on FREIDA as the PD.

4. There was no tour, no discussion about the curriculum, about the hospital, the program.

5. I did not meet one resident.

In conclusion, I'm feeling bummed out. I feel this was a sham interview. And although I feel I had a substantive discussion with the PD for the most part, I feel that he was bull-****ting me also at times. I've met quite a few PDs and am now getting good at seeing through their crap. The more I think about this experience, the more I alternate between laughter and anger. But honestly, I think I've been hosed.

How did you get hosed? The program granted you an interview because your family friend pulled some strings, when they otherwise wouldn't have. They at least gave you a chance to sell yourself. Also, not every program has the same type of interview. For instance, I had one interview in which I only met with the critical care attending for about 40 minutes and received a tour from one of the residents. No lunch or interviews with any other faculty. There was only one other interviewee with me. Both of us ended up matching into that program.
 
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