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I'm a 2nd year student and want to share a few simple truths with you regarding KCOM (ATSU Kirksville), because I believe it matters where you choose to spend a quarter of a million bucks. Main highlights: I was admitted to several schools, chose KCOM because of its name and history, and loved my first year for the most part. Then, things changed at the end of last year with the appointment of a new Dean (Margaret Wilson, a local family doc with ZERO experience as an administrator), and now I wonder if perhaps I should have gone elsewhere. So, if you're a competitive applicant, you may benefit from the following thoughts:

1.) If you have the option, please STRONGLY consider attending your "2nd best" school that lets you in, whichever one it might be. If I could go back in time, knowing what I know now about how things work here, I would have accepted my spots at VCOM or Nova Southeastern.

2.) KCOM has an amazing history, an honorable legacy, and a sound mission - all of which I'm proud to claim as my own now. And, our graduates perform quite well both professionally and otherwise when we leave, which comforts me to a degree.

3.) The administration USED TO BE very attentive to our requests, concerns, thoughts, and comments, which rocked (past tense).

4.) Now, however, I have to post this anonymously because our administrators here have blatantly told us that they will "crack down on" any student who cautions potential applicants regarding these things: a] You will never know the correct answers to any exam questions you're unsure about, b] You absolutely cannot directly contact professors via email and will be called into the "principle's office" if you choose to do so, c] administration will never explain to the students their reasoning for changing major academic protocols "mid-swing." For example, our block exams (computer-based multiple choice) occur every 3-4 weeks, EACH ONE lasting 3-5 hours and encompassing 6-8 subjects. When I started here, each exam lasted perhaps 3 hours, included perhaps 4-5 subjects each, and we could review the exam questions and correct answers the next week. They changed ALL of this on us DURING this academic year with ZERO explanation.

5.) The kicker = we are FORBIDDEN, by the dean herself, to ask the reasoning behind these changes. In fact, she showed up today during a lecture and literally spoke to us as if we were children (tone of voice, word choice, etc.), where she issued to us her WARNING that we are not to question their methods.

6.) An even BIGGER kicker = this is how the KCOM works concerning EVERY issue, and if you so much as question the purpose, reasoning, or method behind any change, you are threatened with disciplinary action.

So, do yourself a favor. Ask STUDENTS for their perspectives, and then go with your gut when choosing a school. The administration will say whatever they need to say in order to attract the best. Here's one of the alphas wishing he had chosen differently.
 
I'm a 2nd year student and want to share a few simple truths with you regarding KCOM (ATSU Kirksville), because I believe it matters where you choose to spend a quarter of a million bucks. Main highlights: I was admitted to several schools, chose KCOM because of its name and history, and loved my first year for the most part. Then, things changed at the end of last year with the appointment of a new Dean (Margaret Wilson, a local family doc with ZERO experience as an administrator), and now I wonder if perhaps I should have gone elsewhere. So, if you're a competitive applicant, you may benefit from the following thoughts:

1.) If you have the option, please STRONGLY consider attending your "2nd best" school that lets you in, whichever one it might be. If I could go back in time, knowing what I know now about how things work here, I would have accepted my spots at VCOM or Nova Southeastern.

2.) KCOM has an amazing history, an honorable legacy, and a sound mission - all of which I'm proud to claim as my own now. And, our graduates perform quite well both professionally and otherwise when we leave, which comforts me to a degree.

3.) The administration USED TO BE very attentive to our requests, concerns, thoughts, and comments, which rocked (past tense).

4.) Now, however, I have to post this anonymously because our administrators here have blatantly told us that they will "crack down on" any student who cautions potential applicants regarding these things: a] You will never know the correct answers to any exam questions you're unsure about, b] You absolutely cannot directly contact professors via email and will be called into the "principle's office" if you choose to do so, c] administration will never explain to the students their reasoning for changing major academic protocols "mid-swing." For example, our block exams (computer-based multiple choice) occur every 3-4 weeks, EACH ONE lasting 3-5 hours and encompassing 6-8 subjects. When I started here, each exam lasted perhaps 3 hours, included perhaps 4-5 subjects each, and we could review the exam questions and correct answers the next week. They changed ALL of this on us DURING this academic year with ZERO explanation.

5.) The kicker = we are FORBIDDEN, by the dean herself, to ask the reasoning behind these changes. In fact, she showed up today during a lecture and literally spoke to us as if we were children (tone of voice, word choice, etc.), where she issued to us her WARNING that we are not to question their methods.

6.) An even BIGGER kicker = this is how the KCOM works concerning EVERY issue, and if you so much as question the purpose, reasoning, or method behind any change, you are threatened with disciplinary action.

So, do yourself a favor. Ask STUDENTS for their perspectives, and then go with your gut when choosing a school. The administration will say whatever they need to say in order to attract the best. Here's one of the alphas wishing he had chosen differently.


Couldn't post this from your real account huh?
 
I'm going to quote DopaDO's post in the other thread so that people who read this thread, can see his response which I think clearly explains not only why they did it, but the compromise they have come to (or will be coming to).

I'm also a KCOM student, and while a lot of what is being said is true, I think I can offer a little reasoning behind why this happened.

Even though the administration has denied this, my understanding on why test reviews have stopped is to cut down on cheating. Let me elaborate. Certain groups of students are known for going to test reviews, memorizing questions, writing them down, and giving them to next years class. This isn't rampant, but it does happen. So in order to cut this out, they cut out test reviews. Now they could have just had the professors write new questions each year, but the problem is that you can only write so many good/HY questions from a lecture. If they all get circulated and you have to continually write new questions, they will get progressively worse and you don't want bad questions. The administration wants to give each student a spreadsheet that tells us what kinds of questions we missed and how to better prepare next time. While certainly not a perfect system, I think it'll be fine. Some students are way too neurotic about preclinical grades. Recommending someone to not go here based on test reviews is completely asinine. I've had a great experience here and will have an even better one during 3rd and 4th year. Our rotations are definitely a strength (just thought I'd mention that with all the DO rotations discussion going on around here lately)

I would absolutely recommend all pre-med students to apply here. I'd put KCOM up against any school MD or DO.
 
Are you the same person? Or the best friend of the person that posted the other thread? So you've been fuming mad, talking and building up the anger all day? Just curious. I am still very excited to attend, but I hope for you and for me that it gets much better. Good luck with the rest of the year!
 
I'm going to quote DopaDO's post in the other thread so that people who read this thread, can see his response which I think clearly explains not only why they did it, but the compromise they have come to (or will be coming to).

I agree entirely with the bolded.
 
Are you the same person? Or the best friend of the person that posted the other thread? So you've been fuming mad, talking and building up the anger all day? Just curious. I am still very excited to attend, but I hope for you and for me that it gets much better. Good luck with the rest of the year!

Just texted a friend of mine who is an M2 at KCOM.

Her response to these two threads.

"my class has its share of crybabies. they're so busy partying and not studying then they get mad that they can't see what they got wrong on tests and then say thats the reason they did bad on the next test."
 
Just texted a friend of mine who is an M2 at KCOM.

Her response to these two threads.

"my class has its share of crybabies. they're so busy partying and not studying then they get mad that they can't see what they got wrong on tests and then say thats the reason they did bad on the next test."

Haha thanks. I've actually been thinking now about calling my friends that are there now just to get their input on the situation.
 
Just texted a friend of mine who is an M2 at KCOM.

Her response to these two threads.

"my class has its share of crybabies. they're so busy partying and not studying then they get mad that they can't see what they got wrong on tests and then say thats the reason they did bad on the next test."

Hahaha I guess it happens...
 
The shear arrogance of the undergrads here is astounding. I know it is hard to hear poor things about the school you choose. Many of us wouldn't be posting here, in a public forum, if we didn't care about the next round of students.

Despite what the other OMS2 said there is no testing review sheet in place right now. Maybe there will be in the future. It's easy to belittle those of us who speak out but we're all comfortably in the top half of our class most of us hold leadership positions, are active in student groups, and take school seriously. To say otherwise is insulting and a juvenile argument.

Do you really want to attend a school where the administration doesn't allow dissident voices? There's a reason I'm posting under an anonymous name- it's because I would be called in front of the dean and assistant dean if I didn't. Others have.

Those of us on here voicing our concerns will graduate just fine. There's more to it than that though. What kind of environment do you want to be in during your medical education? If you could learn more or learn from your mistakes wouldn't you want to?

Quite frankly, until you're in medical school you have no clue. Once you get here though ill be happy to buy you a beer at the dukum! Good luck.
 
Haha. I received a text from a friend last night who goes to kcom and comes on here that said "holy crap, 2nd years are crybabies." this was also in response to these posts. Ironic.......
 
You pose an irrefutably logical counter argument. Perhaps you should have attended law school instead of medical school?
 
And maybe you should post when you get out of elementary school.

You are seriously mad at the school for not allowing test reviews. It sounds like they took it away because people were cheating. Sounds like you should be mad at the students, not the school. And when you complain that the school is protecting itself from cheaters but trying to make accommodations, it sounds suspicious. Contrary to what students think, the school doesn't sit there and say, "how can we screw up our students lives." And to think these same problems aren't happening elsewhere is kind of arrogant on your part. And to anonymously make a post on here saying how bad KCOM is, it only makes you look like a whiner that isn't getting his way. So many people want to scream to feel like a leader, but nobody ever has solutions. And without solutions, you are just a whiner.

So instead of posting on here in a huff, maybe you should open your eyes, learn how the real world works, and do your best with the situation you are given. And if you aren't ranked where you wanna be, don't blame the school, realize that it is only your fault.
 
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I doubt anything will change for me. There are issues that I believe incoming or prospective students should be aware of. Exam reviews are a big deal- they help a lot of us learn. Isn't that the point of medical school?

The bigger issue at play is the administration's attitude towards students.
They've publicly stated that cheating was not the reason they axed exam reviews. Therefore they are either lying to us about that or there is another reason. If there is another reason they won't tell us. Both options are rampantly unprofessional and highlight the lack of respect towards students.

Your reading comprehension is failing you. I'm not unhappy about my ranking as I clearly stated before. I'm unhappy with how the students are being treated giving the amount of money we're spending and the other choices we all had schools. Things that would give me pause if I were a prospective student.

Do not assume that because I'm a med student I don't know "how the real world works". I worked as a high level provider before medical school, taught at the graduate school level, and owned my own business. You still have yet to counter a single point any of us have made.
 
These threads are so pointless. The Western one was the worst though. If you want to review your school, go into the osteo forum and write a proper review in the review thread. Coming into pre-osteo with your jeffersons all jumbled isn't helping anyone, yourself included.
 
I am wasting my time responding and shouldn't, but there is nothing to counter. I will be done arguing with you. These threads fade anyway and nobody cares.
 
Wow! Getting you familar with national board exams, their format, length and rigor. The nerve of them. COMLEX is 400 questions in 6-8 hrs, deal with it.

For example, our block exams (computer-based multiple choice) occur every 3-4 weeks, EACH ONE lasting 3-5 hours and encompassing 6-8 subjects. When I started here, each exam lasted perhaps 3 hours, included perhaps 4-5 subjects each, and we could review the exam questions and correct answers the next week.
 
Haha. I received a text from a friend last night who goes to kcom and comes on here that said "holy crap, 2nd years are crybabies." this was also in response to these posts. Ironic.......

:laugh:
 
Aww I missed the big boy med. students having a slap n tickle fight.
 
If you are not a physician, phd in education on a medical school academic board, or a current medical student then you have no room to say a medical student is wrong about their opinion of the school. While I enjoy watching all of these pre meds tell the med students how it really is, I also think that the pre meds need to realize that they have NO clue what it is like ( no matter how many forums you read or friends you talk to). It is like calling a person in a sinking ship from land and telling them that it is not that bad and they are dumb for freaking out. Hopefully one day you get the chance to experience what med school is like, and if you do indeed get the opportunity to do so I hope that you also gain some more respect for people and their opinions along the way.


Sincerely,
A medical student
 
Let me translate what he really said here:
The shear arrogance of the undergrads here is astounding. I know it is hard to hear poor things about the school you choose. Many of us wouldn't be posting here, in a public forum, unless we thought that threatening the current administration with their future medical school applicants would cause them to turn tail and bend to our desperate need to control our own medical school education. Clearly we know how to educate ourselves about medicine, we only attended medical school to receive an accredited diploma, not because we could actually learn something.

...

Do you really want to attend a school where the administration doesn't allow dissident voices? Its not like you have ever experienced that coming from your undergraduate universities where you are one of thousands instead of one in hundreds There's a reason I'm posting under an anonymous name- is because I would be called a sissy and laughed out of the school in front of the dean and assistant dean if I didn't. Others have.

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Wow! Getting you familar with national board exams, their format, length and rigor. The nerve of them. COMLEX is 400 questions in 6-8 hrs, deal with it.
👍 Goro I love that you speak plain truths. ADCOMs should come along to debunk complaints more often.

Edit: I usually dont respond so strongly, but I dont like the name and avatar chosen for OP's "fake" account. I am a mormon and maybe you are too, but I think it was a little disrespectful to make an account with that name and picture and use it for defamation of ATSU.
 
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Edit: I usually dont respond so strongly, but I dont like the name and avatar chosen for OP's "fake" account. I am a mormon and maybe you are too, but I think it was a little disrespectful to make an account with that name and picture and use it for defamation of ATSU.
Man, u touchy.
 
If you are not a physician, phd in education on a medical school academic board, or a current medical student then you have no room to say a medical student is wrong about their opinion of the school. While I enjoy watching all of these pre meds tell the med students how it really is, I also think that the pre meds need to realize that they have NO clue what it is like ( no matter how many forums you read or friends you talk to). It is like calling a person in a sinking ship from land and telling them that it is not that bad and they are dumb for freaking out. Hopefully one day you get the chance to experience what med school is like, and if you do indeed get the opportunity to do so I hope that you also gain some more respect for people and their opinions along the way.


Sincerely,
A medical student

Cliffs: I'm older than you, you have to listen to me.
 
Haha. I received a text from a friend last night who goes to kcom and comes on here that said "holy crap, 2nd years are crybabies." this was also in response to these posts. Ironic.......

That person and the other girl better get witness protection from the backlash of the class 😱

I wonder what the OP thinks of those comments from their peers. So far, it hasn't been addressed.
 
Honestly, if this is your biggest complaint, then I think I made the right choice.
 
This is exactly what I was thinking. Of all the things that could be wrong (rotations, weak instruction, etc) this is pretty minor compared to that

This guy's a 2nd year. Come back next year for the thread about nurse preceptors for surg and no notes on rotations.
 
This guy's a 2nd year. Come back next year for the thread about nurse preceptors for surg and no notes on rotations.

If I run into that two years from now, SDN will be third in line to hear it from me.
 
Edit: I usually dont respond so strongly, but I dont like the name and avatar chosen for OP's "fake" account. I am a mormon and maybe you are too, but I think it was a little disrespectful to make an account with that name and picture and use it for defamation of ATSU.

I always think about that South Park episode whenever I hear about Mormons.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons

I'll admit I know nothing about Mormons outside of that single episode. But is it true that Joseph Smith put rocks in a hat to translate invisible parchment? Seems legit.
 
Just to set the record straight, our clinical rotations rock. First off, there is absolutely no way that your preceptor will have anything but an MD/DO. Second off many of the hospitals we have a choice to rotate at are extremely good. Many are big medical centers; some even rank among the top hospitals in the US. Example, Northeast regional - the hospital affiliated/directly attached to KCOM - often ranks in the top 50 hospitals in the US. I also know many 3rd years and they have told me in the limited time I have spoken to them this year, that they are super busy. They write tons of notes, first assist on surgery, the whole deal. Our dean of clinical education is great and he works really hard to make sure we have top notch rotations. That will be the least of your worries here.
 
I always think about that South Park episode whenever I hear about Mormons.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons

I'll admit I know nothing about Mormons outside of that single episode. But is it true that Joseph Smith put rocks in a hat to translate invisible parchment? Seems legit.

😎

There is a bit more to the story than that, but the short answer is... yes, on occassion except for the invisible parchment part, they were ancient gold plates.
 
Just to set the record straight, our clinical rotations rock. First off, there is absolutely no way that your preceptor will have anything but an MD/DO. Second off many of the hospitals we have a choice to rotate at are extremely good. Many are big medical centers; some even rank among the top hospitals in the US. Example, Northeast regional - the hospital affiliated/directly attached to KCOM - often ranks in the top 50 hospitals in the US. I also know many 3rd years and they have told me in the limited time I have spoken to them this year, that they are super busy. They write tons of notes, first assist on surgery, the whole deal. Our dean of clinical education is great and he works really hard to make sure we have top notch rotations. That will be the least of your worries here.

Northeast Regional is a terrible example. Top 50 nationally? It has 0 highly-ranked specialties. It's not even top in Missouri. There are only 2 nationally ranked hospitals in Missouri, Barnes-Jewish/WashU and MU Health.
http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/area/mo/northeast-regional-medical-center-6631445

Apparently, another KCOM affiliate in Joplin, Freeman, is a much better hospital, but still not top 50 by any stretch of the imagination.
http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/area/mo/freeman-hospital-6630008
 
If you are not a physician, phd in education on a medical school academic board, or a current medical student then you have no room to say a medical student is wrong about their opinion of the school. While I enjoy watching all of these pre meds tell the med students how it really is, I also think that the pre meds need to realize that they have NO clue what it is like ( no matter how many forums you read or friends you talk to). It is like calling a person in a sinking ship from land and telling them that it is not that bad and they are dumb for freaking out. Hopefully one day you get the chance to experience what med school is like, and if you do indeed get the opportunity to do so I hope that you also gain some more respect for people and their opinions along the way.


Sincerely,
A medical student

I'll come back in August then.

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I'll come back in August then.

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I'm a fourth year at KCOM so can't really comment on the OP's curriculum changes but just want to say I had a great experience attending KCOM. I left a detailed review in the Osteopathic forum if you care to look an opinion of my personal experiences.

( http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=13678730&postcount=1045 )

I do think it is unfair that students can't review their tests. We always were allowed to review our tests within a few days during a designated time spot by medical education. I personally don't think there is a reason to deny students from reviewing exams. Professors can certainly write new "high yield" questions every year on the same topics. The National Boards somehow do this every year so I don't understand why professors cannot. Only a few of the professors produce meaningful published research and most are strictly teaching faculty.

In regards to the longer length of testing - I believe this is a good idea. It was not like this for me but I'm of the persuasion that it will help prepare for National Boards and also allow for better quality of life since all tests are on one day every four weeks. The statement referencing Dr. Wilson as "mean" and "predatory" I feel cannot be true. I did not know her well but all my experiences interacting with her proved to kind, respectful, and receptive to student ideas. In fact I was unaware of any students that had bad experiences with Dr. Wilson or anything negative to say about her.

Just my $0.02 on the OP's complaints
 
Northeast Regional is a terrible example. Top 50 nationally? It has 0 highly-ranked specialties. It's not even top in Missouri. There are only 2 nationally ranked hospitals in Missouri, Barnes-Jewish/WashU and MU Health.
http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/area/mo/northeast-regional-medical-center-6631445

Apparently, another KCOM affiliate in Joplin, Freeman, is a much better hospital, but still not top 50 by any stretch of the imagination.
http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/area/mo/freeman-hospital-6630008

http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/lists/50-best-hospitals-in-america.html

While ill be the first to admit that it isn't US news, to be ranked by someone that high nationally is still a great positive. I think it speaks to the quality of our rotations. They have a huge sign outside of Kville talking about it being top 50, I guess I should have done my homework a little more. Sorry I'm a med student about to take boards. Gimme a break 🙄


I do think it is unfair that students can't review their tests. We always were allowed to review our tests within a few days during a designated time spot by medical education. I personally don't think there is a reason to deny students from reviewing exams. Professors can certainly write new "high yield" questions every year on the same topics. The National Boards somehow do this every year so I don't understand why professors cannot. Only a few of the professors produce meaningful published research and most are strictly teaching faculty.

Every single professor at KCOM is either involved in research or a clinician. Nobody just teaches.

Also, the National boards do not let students review there tests. For all we know they could be reusing some questions. For as many exams that are administered every year, IM SURE that they do. That's how certain review sources determine if something is HY or not.
 
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Northeast Regional is a terrible example. Top 50 nationally? It has 0 highly-ranked specialties. It's not even top in Missouri. There are only 2 nationally ranked hospitals in Missouri, Barnes-Jewish/WashU and MU Health.
http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/area/mo/northeast-regional-medical-center-6631445

Apparently, another KCOM affiliate in Joplin, Freeman, is a much better hospital, but still not top 50 by any stretch of the imagination.
http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/area/mo/freeman-hospital-6630008

Yeah I thought that article was weird that it included NEMS but not any of the Missouri majors. Still, I'm glad there's any hospital on-site, only a few other DO schools have anything like it.
 
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Every single professor at KCOM is either involved in research or a clinician. Nobody just teaches.

Also, the National boards do not let students review there tests. For all we know they could be reusing some questions. For as many exams that are administered every year, IM SURE that they do. That's how certain review sources determine if something is HY or not.

It's not significant academic center research. Trust me on this one I'm well published and looked into it when I was there. There used to be a biochemistry professor name Dr. Cennedella, a Rhode's Scholar, that performed actual real research but he retired three years ago. The Microbiology/Immunology Department publishes a few articles but that's really about it. Just do a pubmed search if you don't believe me or check their own Scholarly Research Page ( http://www.atsu.edu/kcom/newcurrent_students/ResScholAct/Publications/1-Pubs-Dir.htm ). Most publications were either done before matriculation at ATSU or are in Epubs in unheard of journals. I'm not trying to put you down just laying out the facts.

You should reread my posting. I referenced the National Boards retesting the same high yield areas year after year (maybe I was slightly unclear?). I did not allude to any form of test review as we all know that's not available.
 
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http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/lists/50-best-hospitals-in-america.html

While ill be the first to admit that it isn't US news, to be ranked by someone that high nationally is still a great positive. I think it speaks to the quality of our rotations. They have a huge sign outside of Kville talking about it being top 50, I guess I should have done my homework a little more. Sorry I'm a med student about to take boards. Gimme a break 🙄

Seriously? Becker's? They have a total of zero doctors on staff, so I'm not sure what basis they have for selecting hospitals. Maybe they pulled them out of a hat? Their Editor in Chief has no medical background. She's from a public relations firm.
http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/about-us.html#Leadership

So I guess every hospital is a "Top 50" hospital. You just need to find the right list. 🙄

I know the US News rankings have plenty of faults, but at least they are transparent. The US News publishes their methodology for ranking the top hospitals. I couldn't find any such methodology for Becker's "Hospital" Review.
 
It's not significant academic center research. Trust me on this one I'm well published and looked into it when I was there. There used to be a biochemistry professor name Dr. Cennedella, a Rhode's Scholar, that performed actual real research but he retired three years ago. The Microbiology/Immunology Department publishes a few articles but that's really about it. Just do a pubmed search if you don't believe me or check their own Scholarly Research Page ( http://www.atsu.edu/kcom/newcurrent_students/ResScholAct/Publications/1-Pubs-Dir.htm ). Most publications were either done before matriculation at ATSU or are in Epubs in unheard of journals. I'm not trying to put you down just laying out the facts.

You should reread my posting. I referenced the National Boards retesting the same high yield areas year after year (maybe I was slightly unclear?). I did not allude to any form of test review as we all know that's not available.

Sorry if I came off as a dick, I didn't mean to, especially to a fellow KCOM'er. While maybe the research being done here isn't the greatest (although one of our biochem professors is supposedly a pretty huge superstar), I was simply pointing out a fact. It's something that the school has specifically told us before, and didn't want to spread any misinformation. And as you alluded to our micro department is great too, in fact one of our professors has the number one review book for micro as suggested by FA. Maybe we don't have crazy awesome research, but it is here and it is being done.

In regards to the test review situation, yes I wish we were having them but at the same time, it's preclinical grades. I really couldn't care less. My statement about the national boards was just to point out that even with all the information taught throughout 1st and 2nd year you can only write so many GOOD questions. That's why certain topics are HY. Maybe from one topic like, Hashimotos for example, you can write 15 questions. After that, that's pretty much it. Anything extra you try to write on that may turn out to be a bad question. So I'd you cycle through those questions every few years, that should be enough. The problem is that certain groups are writing the questions down and passing them down. Rather than forcing, new possibly bad questions, this method seems like a logical alternative.

Sorry if the above isn't clear. I'm really tired and with finals coming up, I may be all over the place. Once again, I meant no disrespect.
 
Don't work about it DOPA. Study for your exams and get some quality sleep "like the astronauts". Don't take anything on these forums very seriously because people that post here are likely on the extremes of the spectrum.
 
Seriously? Becker's? They have a total of zero doctors on staff, so I'm not sure what basis they have for selecting hospitals. Maybe they pulled them out of a hat? Their Editor in Chief has no medical background. She's from a public relations firm.
http://www.beckershospitalreview.com/about-us.html#Leadership

So I guess every hospital is a "Top 50" hospital. You just need to find the right list. 🙄

I know the US News rankings have plenty of faults, but at least they are transparent. The US News publishes their methodology for ranking the top hospitals. I couldn't find any such methodology for Becker's "Hospital" Review.

Didn't mean to rustle your jimmies on that. Just pointing out facts, take it how you want. I'm not claiming Beckers to be great (bc like you said any ranking has many flaws), but to even be mentioned with some of those hospitals is an honor in IMO.
 
Don't work about it DOPA. Study for your exams and get some quality sleep "like the astronauts". Don't take anything on these forums very seriously because people that post here are likely on the extremes of the spectrum.

Haha thanks. I'll always try to "remember the astronauts" :laugh:
 
Didn't mean to rustle your jimmies on that. Just pointing out facts, take it how you want. I'm not claiming Beckers to be great (bc like you said any ranking has many flaws), but to even be mentioned with some of those hospitals is an honor in IMO.

You're right. Sorry, when I read your reply I thought it had a confrontational tone. On second read, that was a misunderstanding. I didn't mean to be a dbag about it.
 
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