04/24/09 mcat club

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I started this thread for those taking the MCAT on 04/24/09, I searched this site but couldn't find any thread for this test date. I just registered today, and I'm looking forward to 2.5 months of cranium-busting so that I can put this "four-letter-word" behind me once and for all!!!! :diebanana:

So sign up people and lets support, motivate and try to keep each other sane!! Best of luck to everyone testing on this date and any date for that matter!!!!!!!!!!
 
This was my second try... I put way too much pressure on myself...

I feel you on that first PS passage. Normally, I am cool, calm, collect - but on 4/24 I couldn't calm myself down, even though I walked into the test finishing all of the AAMC FL with 28-32 (applying to DO). The first passage was so loaded with info, I couldn't get it straight, I kept re-reading as well and it cranked up my anxiety level that my nerves were shot throughout the rest of the test. I spent 12 minutes on this passage (somthing I told myself I would NOT do), and when question #40 rolled around I had 3:30 left. Voided, but I learned a valuable lesson. I'm retaking on June 18th which delays? my application {if anyone has application advice, PLEASE PM me 🙂}.

I think I put way too much pressure on myself... need to chill on the next one, no matter how difficult it is. What more can we do if we've given our all?
 
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I wrote mine on friday as well.
I agree the physics was harder than usual with heavy emphasis on chem...the first passage a true turn off!
Physics is usually my forte (11+ on practices), but my station crashed right when i was on the third passage. it took a while for the center poeple to notice me and reboot my computer so I guess I lost a few minutes there. They then told me I had to wait for 45 minutes till 9 so they can change my station when they are certain that the no shows are really not showing up! I was so stressssed!I just started crying and losing my calm...
45 minutes after, at 9 am, they told me i can go back...to the SAME station!!! I asked what wold happen in the case of another crash...they only said they were sorry and couldnt do anything!!
I didn't have much time to review my physics and I was so rushed I got some easy questions wrong (like the gravity one!!!!)
My computer crashed again during the second verbal passage. this time i was quick to notify them and to get my computer rebooted as to not lose much time. This time they finally gave me another station (duh!) but now I had lost all the highlights on the passage i was reading. I dont know about you, but I have a hard time remembering verbal passage details, so I had to reread the passage and do the questions...needless to say, cuz my test was sort of delayed, everyone else was typing their essays as I was reading my verbal and it made it alot harder to focus...
The bio was okay. I debated whether I should void it or have it scored, and I chose the latter. I dont know if it was the right decision. I think I'll have to send a letter to aamc to complain. does anyone here have any suggestions? thoughts?
 
OMG ChemMasc - that's totally unfair! I hope you received some form of documentation stating that your computer crashed during your test. It's understandable that one crash could really throw off your test, but two??? and in the middle of VR?!?!? That's friggin' BRUTAL! I hope that your score is within your desired range. Whatever the case, your situation is completely unfair and I personally think that AAMC should reimburse you or let you take the test again at no charge. As for your decision to void or score, I would have chosen opposite, but I'm paranoid now as this is my second go.

Best of luck to you - wow, and so sorry to hear about your experience
 
You're right I should've asked for documentation...but i think the server would show, that my exam was stopped twice and resumed after....I mean on practice tests my lap top crashed once, and i was able to restart from a saved point....i dont know if that works for practices or for the real test as well...
It was such hard decision to pick between my void and score. Despite the second crash I managed to finish my verbal ( I usually skim the last passage on practices), and i think i'd be able to get at least 10 on my Bio. i dont know, maybe i should've voided....It may have been further proof that the crashes really screwed me over
I'm trying to book another session now, but everything seems to be booked. I hope they can accomodate me for another session, i really wanted to apply this year....
 
Make sure to inform AAMC! Did you write about it in the survey at the end? I would try to notify them, though I do believe you only have 48 hours to receive a response. I hope you've already tried to contact them.
 
Make sure to inform AAMC! Did you write about it in the survey at the end? I would try to notify them, though I do believe you only have 48 hours to receive a response. I hope you've already tried to contact them.

I have tried calling them, but their office is only open during business days. I'm gonna fax a complaint. I'll do it tonight. The website says it should be filed within 5 days of the exam, thats why I didn't do it right away. I just wanted to see what other poeple would think.suggest. I'm def gonna fax a complaint tonight, so they see it tmrw morning.
oh, yes I did fill in the survey. I put a very detailed description as well. prolly longer than my essays...
 
Maybe it was just me...but I wanted to check if it was true...

I felt that that the test was completely different from any of the AAMC (3-6 and 10) or Kaplan FLs. It wasn't necessarily the formatting or the questions...rather it was the way the MCAT passages were written. For some odd reason the entire passage looked foreign to me. Was it English? Yes. Was it comprehensible English? Yes, but not for me. Maybe I just can't read properly...?

Maybe someone can confirm it for me. Did you feel the same way or did you feel that the passages were written like most other practice exams? If so, what practice exams came close to mimicing 4/24's AAMC test writing style? Please let me know what you think...I never give up and yet I ended up voiding the exam.
 
I'm not sure, but I definitely know that the one passage that concerned insects just seemed to be a stream of facts about insects and not necessarily an actual passage, but outside of that, I didn't notice anytime completely wacky. Could just be me though.

Oh, and the other one that was in PS with the H2 question everyone was stumped on...that one confused me too.
 
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I wrote mine on friday as well.
I agree the physics was harder than usual with heavy emphasis on chem...the first passage a true turn off!
Physics is usually my forte (11+ on practices), but my station crashed right when i was on the third passage. it took a while for the center poeple to notice me and reboot my computer so I guess I lost a few minutes there. They then told me I had to wait for 45 minutes till 9 so they can change my station when they are certain that the no shows are really not showing up! I was so stressssed!I just started crying and losing my calm...
45 minutes after, at 9 am, they told me i can go back...to the SAME station!!! I asked what wold happen in the case of another crash...they only said they were sorry and couldnt do anything!!
I didn't have much time to review my physics and I was so rushed I got some easy questions wrong (like the gravity one!!!!)
My computer crashed again during the second verbal passage. this time i was quick to notify them and to get my computer rebooted as to not lose much time. This time they finally gave me another station (duh!) but now I had lost all the highlights on the passage i was reading. I dont know about you, but I have a hard time remembering verbal passage details, so I had to reread the passage and do the questions...needless to say, cuz my test was sort of delayed, everyone else was typing their essays as I was reading my verbal and it made it alot harder to focus...
The bio was okay. I debated whether I should void it or have it scored, and I chose the latter. I dont know if it was the right decision. I think I'll have to send a letter to aamc to complain. does anyone here have any suggestions? thoughts?



I feel your pain. The same thing happened to me on 1/31. My comp froze, I lost time, had to wait for 45 minutes. You might not want to hear this, but you should have voided. I know I wish I had. I got a 28R, way below my average. The MCAT is hard enough as is, it makes it ten times harder when you have extra stresses like you and I did as well as looong unscheduled pauses that ruin concentration.

I sent the AAMC a letter after my exam, since things went so poorly. They got back to me after 6 weeks, and claimed they "confirmed" that I did not lose time, which is total bs. So, you should at least send a letter, because if you are lucky, they could let you take it again for free. If you have any more questions about this, def pm me.
 
I've been reading through everyone's posts since I took the test to see what everyone was saying and finally decided to create an account just to reaffirm pretty much what everyone else is saying. I took all the online practice tests and I thought that this one was significantly harder than every one of them. I also took an MCAT last september that also seemed more difficult than the practice tests. I'm left wondering if the online tests are deliberately easier than the real thing.....

I left the 4/24 test thinking it was pretty hard and wondering what the hell was that, but seeing that most everyone thought it was tough is a comfort. Having voided a test in the past because I wasted too much time on the first passage and ended up running out of time with 8-10 questions left in PS, I recognized the first PS passage as one that could trap me so I skipped it and came back to it in the end. Even then, I still felt like I was throwing out my best guesses in that passage. No real confidence in my answers and I can't remember most of my answers let alone the questions. Also still kicking myself for the last which question in BS which I know I got wrong. Stupid kidneys.
 
I feel your pain. The same thing happened to me on 1/31. My comp froze, I lost time, had to wait for 45 minutes. You might not want to hear this, but you should have voided. I know I wish I had. I got a 28R, way below my average. The MCAT is hard enough as is, it makes it ten times harder when you have extra stresses like you and I did as well as looong unscheduled pauses that ruin concentration.

I sent the AAMC a letter after my exam, since things went so poorly. They got back to me after 6 weeks, and claimed they "confirmed" that I did not lose time, which is total bs. So, you should at least send a letter, because if you are lucky, they could let you take it again for free. If you have any more questions about this, def pm me.

yea but your time doesn't keep going if your computer freezes/crashes. the time stops when the program freezes....i think? did you for sure see the time when it froze and compare it to the time that you saw when you resumed testing 45 min later?
 
It froze with 54 minutes left in PS. When I sat down again 45 minutes later, my clock had 52 and change left and was already ticking. It's only a few minutes, but I ended up leaving a few questions blank, which could be a few points total (I got a 9 on the section)
 
I still feel like you should be able to argue that AAMC prides its testing on giving everyone an equal footing, and that having two computer crashes while taking your exam changed the level environment, so you should deserve at least a free re-test. :\
 
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I wrote mine on friday as well.
I agree the physics was harder than usual with heavy emphasis on chem...the first passage a true turn off!
Physics is usually my forte (11+ on practices), but my station crashed right when i was on the third passage. it took a while for the center poeple to notice me and reboot my computer so I guess I lost a few minutes there. They then told me I had to wait for 45 minutes till 9 so they can change my station when they are certain that the no shows are really not showing up! I was so stressssed!I just started crying and losing my calm...
45 minutes after, at 9 am, they told me i can go back...to the SAME station!!! I asked what wold happen in the case of another crash...they only said they were sorry and couldnt do anything!!
I didn't have much time to review my physics and I was so rushed I got some easy questions wrong (like the gravity one!!!!)
My computer crashed again during the second verbal passage. this time i was quick to notify them and to get my computer rebooted as to not lose much time. This time they finally gave me another station (duh!) but now I had lost all the highlights on the passage i was reading. I dont know about you, but I have a hard time remembering verbal passage details, so I had to reread the passage and do the questions...needless to say, cuz my test was sort of delayed, everyone else was typing their essays as I was reading my verbal and it made it alot harder to focus...
The bio was okay. I debated whether I should void it or have it scored, and I chose the latter. I dont know if it was the right decision. I think I'll have to send a letter to aamc to complain. does anyone here have any suggestions? thoughts?

That's bull. Plain and simple BS (not biological science). File any complaints you can.
 
I can honestly say that anyone has enough nerves going into the test that having a computer crash is enough to put anyone over the edge!! I would have been throwing a ****ing fit!! Esp. if it happened twice!!
 
I took this test in the Philippines and was very pleased with the testing center experience. It was clean, comfortable, quiet, professional, and provided ample scratch paper as well as noise-shielding earphones. I was worried that taking a test in an underdeveloped country would be a disadvantage. I imagined myself in a hot, humid room, sitting on a 10 peso plastic chair in front of a stone-aged computer. Luckily I was wrong. However, there was a massive glitch in the computers and the testing center here was having a hard time downloading the test from a server in Malaysia so the test started 3 hours late. It was a bit of a hassle, but I was just glad that I was able to take the test on the day because if not, I probably would not have my scores back in time for applying early.

Did anyone else get that adrenaline rush during the test? After I finished, I sat back in my chair to relax, the rush subsided, quickly being replaced by a massive, pounding headache! It was very hard to de-stress that night because of the techno-party in my head, but overall I felt that the exam went quite well. However I was incredibly disappointed with EK. It said not to bother with amino acid structures nor remembering which types of ribosomes belong to eukaryotes and prokaryotes and yet those pieces of info were essential to two questions that I remember. I was thankful that I took the extra hour to memorize those little facts inspite of EK's instructions.

As for that hydrogen passage, it took me a long time to realize it was a simple redox question in disguise. That was key for me. I thought that HEXA passage was irritating and I wish there was more O Chem!

As for verbal, I thought it went alright. As always, I feel like I could have gotten anywhere from 7-13 so we will see.

Just to recap:
PS: Fair, but calculation heavy. Some very odd calculations that required more quantitative analysis for me compared to any of the other AAMC's. Quantitative analysis was so helpful for me in this test and I recommend people get very familiar with it and use it both during the test, and if they have time, afterwards when checking things twice.

VR: The most representative of any AAMC tests, for me. It was hard, but at least it was exactly what I expected based on AAMC tests.

BS: Hardest section for me because the passages were quite difficult to understand in entirety. Very little, basic O Chem about substitution and addition. I don't know if it was the nerves or the fatigue from the sheer length of my testing day thus far (up at 5:30, finished at 4), but I just put my head down and did my best. Could not believe that questions required exact knowledge about amino acid structures nor which kind of ribosomes prokaryotes and eukaryotes had. So for future test-takers, study these. It will only take a little time compared to the several weeks or months you take to prepare.

Ahhh.. It's nice to get this stuff off my chest. There is just no one to talk about the test, med school, nor the application process around here.
 
However I was incredibly disappointed with EK. It said not to bother with amino acid structures nor remembering which types of ribosomes belong to eukaryotes and prokaryotes and yet those pieces of info were essential to two questions that I remember. I was thankful that I took the extra hour to memorize those little facts inspite of EK's instructions.

Really? I didn't have the EK books, but I listened to EK's Audio Osmosis, and they definitely said you should know Amino Acids structures. :\
 
its a little late but here are my thoughts...

PS- this section in general was about what I expected except for that ONE PASSAGE (the H2 gas passage). because this was the first passage it kind of threw my timing off. I've been averaging ~13 on AAMC exams and this was the first passage in a while on PS that i was thinking to myself "what the hell are they trying to get at". it seemed like the passage was written by a 5th grader...but then again maybe im just dumb and didnt get it. so i moved on and came back to it at the end and i still didn't get it!! i had to guess on half (if not more) of the questions which makes me a little nervous. Overall this section was markedly harder than AAMC but still within range of understanding.

VR- I am horrible at this section. I felt it was very difficult and more in line with the TPR test. There were a few passages that were very detail oriented and had nothing to do with the MAIN IDEA (which EK pushes so much). Other than those they felt like the real thing but a little longer and a little harder...but I am horrible at VR so this is just my $0.02

BS- This is the one section that felt a lot like the AAMC exams. The consensus seems to be that this section was a little harder than normal which I would agree with...but the only reason I guess it didnt feel too much harder is due to the fact that I have read a lot of SDN and expected hard genetic based passages (AKA the HEXE (sp?) A/B passage). For those who are taking the test in the future I have ONE piece of advice for you...KNOW YOUR GENETICS because it will be tested. In the end I was a little frustrated because looking back I know I missed at least 2/3 organic problems which I'm generally strong at. Overall, this section was heavily based off of molecular biology and evolutionary biology...and at a few points of the test, I dont think even the greatest amount of studying could have helped.

Overall- the test felt a lot like AAMC but harder...especially PS which I wish would have had more physics. As far as VR goes...the passages seemed a little longer but that could also be the result of nerves (this was never my strong point). lastly, BS was HEAVILY... and i will say it again...HEAVILY...based on molecular and evolutionary biology. All-in-all it felt like a REALLY hard AAMC exam. Good luck to all of those who took it...I wish u the best of luck!!! and for those who haven't...when u study never tell yourself "Oh this will never show up"...because it will!!!

GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE FROM 4/24!!!!!!!😀
 
Really? I didn't have the EK books, but I listened to EK's Audio Osmosis, and they definitely said you should know Amino Acids structures. :\
Oh you are right. I suppose I just had that preconception because of EK's emphasis on the unlikeliness of amino acid structure questions.
 
yea but your time doesn't keep going if your computer freezes/crashes. the time stops when the program freezes....i think? did you for sure see the time when it froze and compare it to the time that you saw when you resumed testing 45 min later?

No i didn't check and compare the time the first time or the second. I was so stressed the first time that I just couldnt help but cry. I'm not sure if it was the cpu that crashed or if it was the monitor. My monitor would suddenly go black. They told me it could have been a problem with the monitor. If it was the monitor, then I presume the test wouldn't stop, it only stops if you lose your server connection or if you reboot(correct me if I'm wrong)
 
I feel your pain. The same thing happened to me on 1/31. My comp froze, I lost time, had to wait for 45 minutes. You might not want to hear this, but you should have voided. I know I wish I had. I got a 28R, way below my average. The MCAT is hard enough as is, it makes it ten times harder when you have extra stresses like you and I did as well as looong unscheduled pauses that ruin concentration.

I sent the AAMC a letter after my exam, since things went so poorly. They got back to me after 6 weeks, and claimed they "confirmed" that I did not lose time, which is total bs. So, you should at least send a letter, because if you are lucky, they could let you take it again for free. If you have any more questions about this, def pm me.

Sod did they accomodate you for another date or at least reimbursse you at the end?
 
I know this may not be the correct section to discuss this, but I'm not sure where to ask this considering I obviously haven't received my MCAT scores yet.

I was wondering what I should do if my MCAT scores come back and I'm very unsatisfied? For example, I had a friend who registered for a new test date as soon as she finished her first test because she was afraid of how poorly she had done. It turns out she had scored just fine, and didn't need to take it a second time, but she did just because she'd already registered.

I plan on seeing my scores before registering, so that I won't waste unnecessary money, but I was wondering, what if I do want to take it again. Since the scores will be released late May, and I want to get my application out ASAP, would I just send out my application register for another MCAT at the same time, or would it be better to hold my application?
 
Luun the problem with sending out your app without knowing your definite mcat score is that you wouldn't really know which schools to apply to. I am in the same boat as you but I think i'll wait it out till i get my mcat score until i send out my app, meanwhile I'll be working on my personal statement and the rest of the app.

I know this may not be the correct section to discuss this, but I'm not sure where to ask this considering I obviously haven't received my MCAT scores yet.

I was wondering what I should do if my MCAT scores come back and I'm very unsatisfied? For example, I had a friend who registered for a new test date as soon as she finished her first test because she was afraid of how poorly she had done. It turns out she had scored just fine, and didn't need to take it a second time, but she did just because she'd already registered.

I plan on seeing my scores before registering, so that I won't waste unnecessary money, but I was wondering, what if I do want to take it again. Since the scores will be released late May, and I want to get my application out ASAP, would I just send out my application register for another MCAT at the same time, or would it be better to hold my application?
 
Well, I mean, scores should be released on the 26th of May which is a few days before applications go out, so I would have 1 score. I'm just wondering if I should just go ahead and send out that application if the score I get isn't very good and I plan on retesting this year?
 
Well, I mean, scores should be released on the 26th of May which is a few days before applications go out, so I would have 1 score. I'm just wondering if I should just go ahead and send out that application if the score I get isn't very good and I plan on retesting this year?

This might not be the best place to ask this question but are early decision applications really supposed to go out a few days after May 26th? I'm thinking of applying for early decision but was going to submit in July....does this hurt my chances?
 
Oh you are right. I suppose I just had that preconception because of EK's emphasis on the unlikeliness of amino acid structure questions.

You don't need to know all the structures. Just know that some are acidic, some are basic, and some are uncharged polar and nonpolar. You should also know that proline disrupts structure by having a ring in it and cysteine forms S-S bonds that help with the tertiary and quaternary structures. That's enough for the MCAT and for pretty much anything else you'll ever do.
 
That is what I didn't get...if it weren't curved based on the how people actually do on the test versus what they expect, why wouldn't they give you scores right after like the GRE? I mean obviously you wouldn't get your writing sample score but at least the rest of the test...anyone know why this is if it is not because of a curve?
 
That is what I didn't get...if it weren't curved based on the how people actually do on the test versus what they expect, why wouldn't they give you scores right after like the GRE? I mean obviously you wouldn't get your writing sample score but at least the rest of the test...anyone know why this is if it is not because of a curve?

Maybe they're hoping you'll freak out thinking that you did horrible, and so you sign up for a new test date and they'll get more money? 🙄
 
You don't need to know all the structures. Just know that some are acidic, some are basic, and some are uncharged polar and nonpolar. You should also know that proline disrupts structure by having a ring in it and cysteine forms S-S bonds that help with the tertiary and quaternary structures. That's enough for the MCAT and for pretty much anything else you'll ever do.

It's funny since even though those points should probably be committed to memory, the 4/24 test actually required the recall of the side chain (R-group) of an amino acid in the context of a missense mutation that caused a change in the amino acid sequence.

Since i took a lot of biochemistry courses in undergrad, i knew the answer without aid of the context, but now that i think about it, i dont think the context really gave any clues that would narrow down to the correct choice. Therefore, it was probably a pseudo-discrete in that sense, since it could not be deduced from the passage information (as far as i can remember that is).
 
There's a lot of debate about that. Apparently, the test takers you take it with do have something to do with the curve.

i think what this means is the following:

the ppl you write the test with on the same day itself do not normally influence the outcome of your score. this is probably what is meant by saying that "the curve isn't based on the test takers".

however, all the passages and questions (save for the experimental ones) have been previously administered on an mcat(s) in the previous year(s). i believe it is that population of test takers whos scores contribute to the "pre-determined curve" when you write your exam. This is probably what is meant when it's said that the curve is "pre-determined by the AAMC".

so in a similar cyclical manner, when the pool of mcat takers this year answer the experimental passages/questions, the curve is then set and when those questions are re-administered on another mcat (where they may no longer be experimental), the scores we achieved may set the new curve for those future test takers.
 
It's funny since even though those points should probably be committed to memory, the 4/24 test actually required the recall of the side chain (R-group) of an amino acid in the context of a missense mutation that caused a change in the amino acid sequence.

Since i took a lot of biochemistry courses in undergrad, i knew the answer without aid of the context, but now that i think about it, i dont think the context really gave any clues that would narrow down to the correct choice. Therefore, it was probably a pseudo-discrete in that sense, since it could not be deduced from the passage information (as far as i can remember that is).

hmm i don't think i had this question. could be losing my memory of that morning entirely though lol
 
hmm i don't think i had this question. could be losing my memory of that morning entirely though lol

it had to do with mutations and a disease, maybe the Tay Sachs one but i cant remember... and it basically said amino acid X is now amino acid Y, what new functional group would you expect in the mutated protein with the new amino acid Y in place of X.....
 
for the ochem passage on the 4/24 test, were the results of the experiments substition or did anyone get elimination for either of them?
 
for the ochem passage on the 4/24 test, were the results of the experiments substition or did anyone get elimination for either of them?

I'll like to get some feedback on 2 questions for those who prepped with EK stuff...

1. Did you think that the EK 101 passages are representative of the VR passages u got, in terms of difficulty?

2. Was there any topic(s) (eg endocrinology, optics etc) on the MCAT that u feel the EK books don't cover adequately.

Thanks a lot
 
for the ochem passage on the 4/24 test, were the results of the experiments substition or did anyone get elimination for either of them?

I don't remember having to use anything regarding the elimination reaction...

i think it was strictly substitution, unless you can PM a specific question, then I might spark my memory
 
1. Did you think that the EK 101 passages are representative of the VR passages u got, in terms of difficulty?

I didn't think EK passages were similar to my real passages (I took the test 4/18), but I don't think any materials I used were that similar. I liked EK the best of the printed materials I used (I liked the passages we did in our class exercises with BR the best), but I didn't think they really helped that much. You just need to find a strategy that works and keep practicing on all the passages you can get your hands on. Whether it's EK 101 or anything else, just do tons of practice.

2. Was there any topic(s) (eg endocrinology, optics etc) on the MCAT that u feel the EK books don't cover adequately.

I didn't like the way EK covered buoyancy and forces in physics. After that, I stopped using them and I ended up making EK physics, orgo, and chemistry my second choice materials. I'm really glad I did, because what I used instead was much better for the MCAT I took. But it still comes down to you and not the books.
 
I was just wondering because the questions said that strong bases such as methoxide and t-butoxide, which are usually used for elimination, were used and they also described that the reactios were either unimolecular or bimolecular. I can't remember if the reaction conditions called for elimination or substiution though.
 
for the ochem passage on the 4/24 test, were the results of the experiments substition or did anyone get elimination for either of them?

i think i chose one of them as elimination...not 100% sure however.

Are we allowed to exchange specific details via PMing?
 
I didn't think EK passages were similar to my real passages (I took the test 4/18), but I don't think any materials I used were that similar. I liked EK the best of the printed materials I used (I liked the passages we did in our class exercises with BR the best), but I didn't think they really helped that much. You just need to find a strategy that works and keep practicing on all the passages you can get your hands on. Whether it's EK 101 or anything else, just do tons of practice.

i agree. the vr passages on the 4/24 exam were not like those in the ek 101 text, although doing those practice passages under test conditions would probably help with timing and getting used to the format in which questions on the vr section are asked. at the same time, i didnt feel that the vr section was very difficult on this exam, but with this section you never know.

2. Was there any topic(s) (eg endocrinology, optics etc) on the MCAT that u feel the EK books don't cover adequately.

on the 4/24 exam, i dont think there was a single question, passage based or discrete, on optics! that said, my only experience with optics on any actual mcat has been in discrete question form and i felt ek sufficiently prepped me for those. the 4/24 exam didnt have much physiology either, there was a passage on renal pathology but i dont think there were any others. so basically, i cant comment on ek's preparation of those topics to well.

if one has the time, i think its your best bet to not exclusively use one prep companies materials. although i used the ek manuals for content, i also used tpr practice tests, kaplan fl's and sectionals in addition to the aamc tests.
 
at the same time, i didnt feel that the vr section was very difficult on this exam, but with this section you never know.

I disagree. I took all 8 practice aamc tests and was routinely getting 10-11's on them. I felt the test we took had many more specific detail questions and i don't even think it had any general idea/argument questions on there. The passages did not seem too much longer, but I thought the questions required a little more time to answer.

what does everyone else think?
 
I disagree. I took all 8 practice aamc tests and was routinely getting 10-11's on them. I felt the test we took had many more specific detail questions and i don't even think it had any general idea/argument questions on there. The passages did not seem too much longer, but I thought the questions required a little more time to answer.

what does everyone else think?

haha, i actually agree with your disagreement. the lack of general idea/argument questions and the increase in detail questions, at least in my mind, makes for an easier vr section (although i guess, in theory, this would mean that the questions took longer to answer...)

i also felt that the passage lengths were well represented by the aamc tests and a few questions (im thinking of the cryptoanalysis passage) did require more time to answer; however, i also thought that it was compensated for by questions that took very little time to answer.
 
this was a re-take for me. i got a 25 last time and now im freaking out thinking i may have done even worse now!! i mean i straight up guessed for so many of the problems...how can i get a good score with straight up guesses??? AHH. this is really killing me. what if i screwed myself over and got like a 5 in verbal?? i got an 8 last time, hoping for an improvement this time around...and now i dont think it was anywhere close to an 8 🙁 🙁
 
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