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[Mr.Smile12]

It's worth asking what the timeline might be for scholarships and if there are any steps you could take to be considered. If they say no, you have your answer.

You may not get an immediate answer because many schools may have already extended their financial aid offers to others holding acceptances. I don't know if your state school can go lower unless you are exemplary of mission fit or they think you might be a good candidate for a different scholarship once you matriculate. Private schools should offer you 20K to match your state tuition, not knowing if you received more help.

It helps if you have an estimate of your cost of attendance and can estimate what the differences would be to justify the additional scholarship help, but there's no guarantee you'll get more help.

Don't say anything more about your multiple acceptances in your communications (no names of schools, no number of acceptances). Don't say your family is putting you up to the questions. Just ask if your file is being considered for additional scholarship assistance, and what that timeline might be relative to CYMS. Good luck!

 

[pompom4824]

It's worth asking what the timeline might be for scholarships and if there are any steps you could take to be considered. If they say no, you have your answer.

You may not get an immediate answer because many schools may have already extended their financial aid offers to others holding acceptances. I don't know if your state school can go lower unless you are exemplary of mission fit or they think you might be a good candidate for a different scholarship once you matriculate. Private schools should offer you 20K to match your state tuition, not knowing if you received more help.

It helps if you have an estimate of your cost of attendance and can estimate what the differences would be to justify the additional scholarship help, but there's no guarantee you'll get more help.

Don't say anything more about your multiple acceptances in your communications (no names of schools, no number of acceptances). Don't say your family is putting you up to the questions. Just ask if your file is being considered for additional scholarship assistance, and what that timeline might be relative to CYMS. Good luck!

Thank you for the reply! In your opinion, should I write these emails now or in another month or two? Should I wait to see if additional acceptances or scholarship offers are extended (still waiting on 2 schools I interviewed at)?

I'm a little confused about what explicit information to include in the email per your response. Just the state school COA in comparison to the COA of the school I'm emailing?

 

[LizzyM]

Every school has to ask itself, "how much money do we have in the pot? How might we distribute it to advance our admission goals?" In other words, do we really, really want this applicant to matriculate. will we need to offer some cash to get them to say yes, do we have that much cash available?

You may not be that desirable (keep in mind that many schools are banking on 2 out of 3 admitted applicants to say "no thanks, I'm going elsewhere"). You may be desirable but the school is cash poor or directing their cash toward other more desirable candidates or similar candidates who can be lured with smaller scholarships.


It could happen that a school that is threatened with over-subscription will be thrilled to know that you have other offers and will choose to matriculate elsewhere. One less antacid that the dean of admissions will need this year.

Best to ask, "when will financial aid packages be distributed as I am weighing several options." There is no real benefit in being more specific.

 

[Morc]

I did this - I was randomly given a partial scholarship from my #2 school, then I asked for money from my #1 saying I wanted to go there and why. They gave me a full ride. I was fully transparent of what schools gave me, and which schools they were.

I followed one guide/anecdote on here (I'll look for it), but I asked around THIS time because theres still money to be given, not later because once they disperse those scholarships, there is less money in the pot

 

[maybeyesmaybeno]

I did this - I was randomly given a partial scholarship from my #2 school, then I asked for money from my #1 saying I wanted to go there and why. They gave me a full ride. I was fully transparent of what schools gave me, and which schools they were.

I followed one guide/anecdote on here (I'll look for it), but I asked around THIS time because theres still money to be given, not later because once they disperse those scholarships, there is less money in the pot

Any luck in finding it?

 

[pompom4824]

I did this - I was randomly given a partial scholarship from my #2 school, then I asked for money from my #1 saying I wanted to go there and why. They gave me a full ride. I was fully transparent of what schools gave me, and which schools they were.

I followed one guide/anecdote on here (I'll look for it), but I asked around THIS time because theres still money to be given, not later because once they disperse those scholarships, there is less money in the pot

I think the difference in my case is that I have NOT received any merit aid / scholarships thus far and will likely not receive any in the future. For your case, I have seen multiple examples of schools matching aid but in my case I don't have any original aid packages to match.

 

[LunaOri]

I think the difference in my case is that I have NOT received any merit aid / scholarships thus far and will likely not receive any in the future. For your case, I have seen multiple examples of schools matching aid but in my case I don't have any original aid packages to match.

I think the difference in my case is that I have NOT received any merit aid / scholarships thus far and will likely not receive any in the future. For your case, I have seen multiple examples of schools matching aid but in my case I don't have any original aid packages to match.

Are you eligible for aid, for financial reasons? If not, is there a reason other than your multiple acceptances that a school should consider you an especially desirable candidate (such as 4.0/52x, or outstanding achievements)?

 

[EdgeTrimmer]

My kid mentioned the school name to two other schools and asked if they can beat the COA from instate school. One school matched but other said they don’t have funds.

 

[wysdoc]

I think the difference in my case is that I have NOT received any merit aid / scholarships thus far and will likely not receive any in the future. For your case, I have seen multiple examples of schools matching aid but in my case I don't have any original aid packages to match.

Your parents may not realize that merit scholarships are much less common for med school than for college, and that the main source of financing is loans or parental assistance.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

if i got a full tuition merit scholarship from school A, should i be asking school B if they can match/give me something now or wait for my initial financial aid from school B to come out first?

school B is rolling out aid over the next few weeks

We are now in March, so schools should be upfront on whether they can match tuition scholarships from other peer institutions.

Calculate your COAs at the institutions and how the package from A offsets it.

1) Ask if the program offers a similar scholarship (don't mention school names). If no, you have your answer.

2) If yes, ask if they think you would be a strong candidate for their top tuition scholarship. You won't get an immediate answer about your package, so see if the admissions office can connect you with a student in a similar financial situation that you will face.

An astute admissions professional can recognize your questions as an indicator that you may have a scholarship offer pending from another school without you disclosing everything. Rarely are they involved with a financial aid discussion, but they should be able to give more specific answers to your questions if they are.

TL/DR: ask if B has matched such offers before you receive your package. If you know they have given out such offers but you don't get one, then you can ask afterwards provided your package is not "offensively" below your expectations.

 

[EdgeTrimmer]

We are now in March, so schools should be upfront on whether they can match tuition scholarships from other peer institutions.

Calculate your COAs at the institutions and how the package from A offsets it.

1) Ask if the program offers a similar scholarship (don't mention school names). If no, you have your answer.

2) If yes, ask if they think you would be a strong candidate for their top tuition scholarship. You won't get an immediate answer about your package, so see if the admissions office can connect you with a student in a similar financial situation that you will face.

An astute admissions professional can recognize your questions as an indicator that you may have a scholarship offer pending from another school without you disclosing everything. Rarely are they involved with a financial aid discussion, but they should be able to give more specific answers to your questions if they are.

TL/DR: ask if B has matched such offers before you receive your package. If you know they have given out such offers but you don't get one, then you can ask afterwards provided your package is not "offensively" below your expectations.

If school A rank is higher than school B, you can mention school A name to school B. I know students who got money at higher ranked schools even after mentioning lower ranked school names. It all comes down to how much money they have and what class profile they wants to create.

 

[giannislikessmoothies]

Every school has to ask itself, "how much money do we have in the pot? How might we distribute it to advance our admission goals?" In other words, do we really, really want this applicant to matriculate. will we need to offer some cash to get them to say yes, do we have that much cash available?

You may not be that desirable (keep in mind that many schools are banking on 2 out of 3 admitted applicants to say "no thanks, I'm going elsewhere"). You may be desirable but the school is cash poor or directing their cash toward other more desirable candidates or similar candidates who can be lured with smaller scholarships.


It could happen that a school that is threatened with over-subscription will be thrilled to know that you have other offers and will choose to matriculate elsewhere. One less antacid that the dean of admissions will need this year.

Best to ask, "when will financial aid packages be distributed as I am weighing several options." There is no real benefit in being more specific.

I'm wondering if this still applies if I have been admitted to schools that are ranked significantly higher (no scholarships there as of now) and want to request additional merit aid at a lower ranked school. Would mentioning the names of the higher ranked schools give me more leverage or would it be poorly received by the school I am negotiating with?

 

[LizzyM]

Do you think that mentioning higher ranked schools means the school you're talking with suddenly has more money in their purse? Do you think it makes you more desirable as a matriculant? Do you think it changes the fact that some schools know they are competing with higher ranked schools, expect 2 out of 3 to turn them down and make far more offers than they have seats? Do you think that telling them that you have other offers increases the number of seats they have to fill? At this point, many schools are banking on 200 or more admitted applicants saying "no thanks". A school might be very happy to let you go and very happy that you might land at a significantly higher ranked school (good for you!).

 

[EdgeTrimmer]

Do you think that mentioning higher ranked schools means the school you're talking with suddenly has more money in their purse? Do you think it makes you more desirable as a matriculant? Do you think it changes the fact that some schools know they are competing with higher ranked schools, expect 2 out of 3 to turn them down and make far more offers than they have seats? Do you think that telling them that you have other offers increases the number of seats they have to fill? At this point, many schools are banking on 200 or more admitted applicants saying "no thanks". A school might be very happy to let you go and very happy that you might land at a significantly higher ranked school (good for you!).

As I mentioned above that worked for my child and couple of other kids at the same school. My child has higher ranked admission and others have lower ranked admissions. It all depends on how much money the school has and whom they want to recruit. May be this school suddenly got new money from donors.