2 pharmacy schools shut down, which ones next

[mentos]

Which they deserve every bit, since they’ll finally get a taste of the CVS job market of saturation, terrible work conditions, and crushing student debt they created for us as they hid in their ivory towers telling us that retail is beneath us.

I hope the ones who gave pharmacy students a hard time get what they deserve! Especially the ones who had retail rotations aka free labor. I had a Wags rotation where the RXM called in the professor to the store to speak to students who didn't work hard enough!

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[WVUPharm2007]

That's a LOT of departments. The good news is, it looks like the Puppetry program didn't make the list.....

No, it's on there. School of Theatre and Dance.

 

[RxPreceptor]

Ha, I actually know/occasionally work with a pharmacy school professor. Not from the school I went to, but local to the area I work in. He seems like a cool guy and is 100% aware of the **** environment he is now a part of…kind of sad...I definitely can Tell he puts on a face when dealing with customers/answering phone calls vs. talking to him in person as a peer. But don’t we all do this to some extent?

 

[lord999]

If one of my old professors walked in and I had to train them, I would probably laugh uncontrollably for a few hours straight. Like, really loudly.

The way tenure works at WVU, it’s early retirement. Most of the science faculty don’t draw a salary already (industry money). But pharmacy school is never a money maker for a state in almost all cases (Rutgers, RI, UConn, Temple, Pitt, UF, Kansas, Michigan, and UMN are the exceptions).

 

[Xenophylia]

Sorry. Guess I wasn't reading between the lines..... I wonder what the starting salary is for a puppeteer these days....might be worth a look.

No, it's on there. School of Theatre and Dance.

 

[sunnyandseventytwo]

Sorry. Guess I wasn't reading between the lines..... I wonder what the starting salary is for a puppeteer these days....might be worth a look.

Why's everyone bashing puppetry? First of all, there's actually a market for puppeteers. Has nobody seen a Muppet movie recently?

Secondly, come out and say what you really mean: Non-STEM degrees are not worth the paper their printed on. I'm sure that's true from a financial perspective. Most people can make more money managing a car rental branch than they can working in a library. But do you really want to live in a world where there are no social workers, no art historians, no special ed teachers? I do not.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Why's everyone bashing puppetry? First of all, there's actually a market for puppeteers. Has nobody seen a Muppet movie recently?

Secondly, come out and say what you really mean: Non-STEM degrees are not worth the paper their printed on. I'm sure that's true from a financial perspective. Most people can make more money managing a car rental branch than they can working in a library. But do you really want to live in a world where there are no social workers, no art historians, no special ed teachers? I do not.

There are lots of great non stem majors. Nobody is saying otherwise.

 

[Xenophylia]

Sadly many of those great majors turn into careers that necessary but grossly undercompensated.

 

[nickw2401]

I believe South University (a for profit) closed its Columbia, SC campus. I think the Savannah, GA campus may still be in operation? I used to work at a hospital in Columbia, SC...my director refused take students or hire grads from South University.

 

[Dred Pirate]

I believe South University (a for profit) closed its Columbia, SC campus. I think the Savannah, GA campus may still be in operation? I used to work at a hospital in Columbia, SC...my director refused take students or hire grads from South University.

South University - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Columbia Doctor of Pharmacy (PharmD) Degree | South University

Our Columbia, SC Pharmacy program is accredited by the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education. Learn more about our program today!

www.southuniversity.edu

this states they still have a columbia campus - unfortunately

 

[nickw2401]

South University - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Columbia Doctor of Pharmacy (PharmD) Degree | South University

Our Columbia, SC Pharmacy program is accredited by the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education. Learn more about our program today!

www.southuniversity.edu

this states they still have a columbia campus - unfortunately

I think that may be outdated. There is no mention of the Columbia campus on schools website and it is not listed on Pharmcas. Only the Savannah campus.

 

[Dred Pirate]

I think that may be outdated. There is no mention of the Columbia campus on schools website and it is not listed on Pharmcas. Only the Savannah campus.

the second link is from their website??

 

[WVUPharm2007]

https://provost.wvu.edu/files/d/b79a1a31-bd07-4545-8ff2-29735af0c2a0/preliminary-recommendation-pharmacy.pdf

WVU Pharmacy stays open, but with staff cuts.

8 FTEs.

 

[vesfly]

Hearing 8 incoming P1s so far for UNE

 

[Dred Pirate]

Hearing 8 incoming P1s so far for UNE

how is that even remotely sustainable?

 

[297point1]

how is that even remotely sustainable?

It's not. But UNE has little interest in shuttering their program unless Husson closes theirs first; there is pride at stake in the Pine Tree State. When both programs announced plans to open the same year, the folks at UNE (who did announce first) were running their mouths about their beliefs that there was no need for two pharmacy programs in Maine. Which proved correct! Just not the way they thought it would.

 

[clarkbar]

Pharmacist Shortage: Crisis and Opportunities in Healthcare

Learn about the critical pharmacist shortage affecting healthcare access. Discover how PCOM is addressing this crisis and preparing future pharmacy leaders.

www.pcom.edu

New clown at the fake, proprietor school, pcom, claims we are in a pharmacist shortage. He mentions extremely low matriculants for this year, about 9700, that doesn't sound right--it was 11000 last year. I think there were 7800 grades in 2000, before the school explosion.

This number still translates into 69 students per class per school. These wont cry uncle until it gets to 35.

 

[projektreverb]

Pharmacist Shortage: Crisis and Opportunities in Healthcare

Learn about the critical pharmacist shortage affecting healthcare access. Discover how PCOM is addressing this crisis and preparing future pharmacy leaders.

www.pcom.edu

New clown at the fake, proprietor school, pcom, claims we are in a pharmacist shortage. He mentions extremely low matriculants for this year, about 9700, that doesn't sound right--it was 11000 last year. I think there were 7800 grades in 2000, before the school explosion.

This number still translates into 69 students per class per school. These wont cry uncle until it gets to 35.

*checks paycheck* yeah that’s not very shortagey.

 

[RxPreceptor]

Cmon fellas, we’ve made so much progress in lowering students from applying for pharmacy simply by shedding some reality about what the career entails (far from a get rich quick scheme like so many young naive whipper snappers think)

Stay strong in enlightening young impressionable minds about piss poor working conditions, constantly having to do more with less, endless metrics, and good old fashion corporate greed

 

[BenJammin]

11,500 students took the NAPLEX last year. 9600 for this year would be a huge drop but they're 4 years delayed stats, right? We shouldn't be surprised at figures like that.

 

[Dred Pirate]

Pharmacist Shortage: Crisis and Opportunities in Healthcare

Learn about the critical pharmacist shortage affecting healthcare access. Discover how PCOM is addressing this crisis and preparing future pharmacy leaders.

www.pcom.edu

New clown at the fake, proprietor school, pcom, claims we are in a pharmacist shortage. He mentions extremely low matriculants for this year, about 9700, that doesn't sound right--it was 11000 last year. I think there were 7800 grades in 2000, before the school explosion.

This number still translates into 69 students per class per school. These wont cry uncle until it gets to 35.

just shot him an email says he was full of $%&@ and that this message was just a way of drumming up more sub-par applicants - $10 he doesn't response
Here is his email - I will save you all the two clicks it takes to find it - think we all should send him a message.

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