2007-8 interview trail

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Hi everyone,

Congrats to the MS4s who have applied to PM&R and have started getting interviews. The interview trail thread has been one of the more helpful threads for prospective PM&R applicants. Please add to this post - we will keep it a sticky - and I will clean at the end of the interview season. let the interviewing begin!!
 
hey everyone. we've had two interview days at LSU so far and i've met a ton of great applicants already. i don't know how they do the rankings with so many good people to pick from...and we still have 5 more interview days. so since none of the 18ish applicants have commented here so far, let me give everyone some advice from my perspective.
# of interviews: around 5
start time: ?? i think it's around 7:30am.
end time: 4-5ish (after our friday lectures)
dinner?: we don't have the traditional dinner the night before the interview day like most programs do. what we do is have a relaxed get together at a local pub/restaurant (Superior Grill) within walking distance from the interview site. The negative is that you'll have to likely stay another night (and pay for another hotel night) in order to go and socialize with the residents afterwards. The plus is that this is AFTER all the interviews so you're more relaxed (a BIG plus in my opinion). this socializing is "fairly" stress-free and is a good time to make an impression on the chief and other residents (no attendings come). it's sponsored by a drug/equipment rep each time and they pay for happy-hour drinks (alcohol or virgin) and some good appetizers. my only advice is to come and have fun...but don't drink too much and make an ass of yourself. no one has done so this year, but apparently last year an applicant got VERY forward and unprofessional with the attractive drug rep that was sponsoring it...i think he had a great interview session but that action probably killed him.
interviewers:
1) dr. gary glynn: our chairman of PM&R big wig. VERY cool and laid back session. he'll talk the whole time pretty much so nothing to stress about.
2) dr. steve kishner: our program director. nice guy who'll talk most of the time and don't ask any ball-busting questions.
3) dr. brian rosenberg: our chief resident. really nice guy has a VERY dry sense of humor so keep that in mind when he says something odd and doesn't laugh right away...so just laugh at whatever he says. ;-D
4) dr. alex tran: our ass chief. or that's what i call her as short for ASSistant chief. she's a pgy3 now. really nice resident who's laid back and this probably won't be stressful either.
so, so far, nothing to be worked up over...but then there's mr. gene pizzeck.
5) mr. gene pizzeck: not mean at all, BUT it just weird that they'll throw you in to an interview with him and not tell you who he is...so you'll go in there not sure whether he's an attending or what. well, it was weird for me last year and i've been told many times this year that the applicants thought it was weird too. but, he's been with the program since the beginning and insists on interviewing everyone so he gets what he wants. :-D anyway, he's the one person that'll ask you those typical interview questions ("tell me about your research interests/experience", "why did u pick PMR", "why new orleans", "favorite rotation", "worst rotation"...that sort of thing). so less joking and more serious stuff. which is weird cuz he's a really nice and cool guy outside of the interviews but i guess he likes to take it seriously. whatever...now you know.
6) dr. matthai: one of our attendings. thick indian accent. super nice, but i hear she might be one of the more formal interviewers too.
7) dr. kurtz-burke: super nice, young, energetic attending that works with us at our VA outpt clinic. she'll be a laid back interviewer too.
8) dr. mipro: probably our coolest, most energetic attending. i wish he'd interview everyone cuz he'd sell the program by just being so nice and relaxed. he's the other attending at the VA outpt.

so obviously you can see that you won't interview with everyone above...but definitely glynn, kishner, pizzeck and either rosenberg or tran, and one of the attendings.

good luck everyone! post your experience sometime too.

-chris
 
I agree completly with what Chris said. I was in the first interview session.
All the interviews were very laid back, and more of a "putting feelers out". There were not to many specific questions, but there was some leading conversation.
As far as Mr. Pizzeck goes, since Chris said he was the more serious of the interviews, he was still very laid back. His questions were not intimidating or the type that make you say "Hold on a second while I formulate a profound answer that will knock your socks off". He did ask why PM & R, which for most of us is a 10 minute long explanation, usually beginning with "Well, when I was half way through/finished 3rd year..."

the residents were all very friendly. Seemed to go out of their way to make you feel welcome, sale the program, and sale the city.

After the interviews, probably 10+ residents and all the interviewees went out. Had a great time. Good margaritas, cold beer. Everyone was really open and truthful with both strengths and weaknesses of the program.

All and all, I really enjoyed the interview. The residents, faculty, staff, and interviewees were all very enjoyable. NOLA is still recovering, but it's not the place that is still portrayed on TV. French Quarter, Garden District, and other "tourist areas" aka nice areas, are up and running. Most of the criminals which made NOLA famous pre and intra Katrina are in Houston now, and you can see the vacant housing complexes littering the area.

Strengths of the program: The tailoring of the schedules to fit an individuals interests and skill set they would like to have. Intern year which is more like a transitional year loaded with electives. Nice people. Laid back atmosphere. Excellent network, especially in the area. An ACGME accredited PM&R Pain fellowship (combined with neuro)

Weakness: New Orleans is still changing and the program is having to adapt to it. Perhaps limited exposure to inpatient rehab, but it is up to an individuals personal motivations. Other than those two things, program is very resident friendly, allowing you to work in multiple hospitals with multiple doctors, with multiple interests.
 
JFK-Johnson Rehab: Their first interview session (and mine)
The day began ~ 8:30 am in the conference room (bagels, coffee, fruit) with time to mingle with the other interviewees (I met DOctor Jay-- great person). Then ~9:15 am Dr. Cuccurullo (PD) gave an amazing and very thorough overview of the Program. Starting at ~10:00, we began our interviews. We interviewed with Dr. Cuccurullo, Dr. Brown (attending), and chief resident (Joe). We then had lunch with the residents who were extremely friendly and helpful and then went on a tour with one of the residents. We then ended with a group interview with Dr. Strax (Chair, former AAPM&R president and overall amazing and inspirational person). I felt that all the interviews were laid back and just wanted to get a better sense of the type of person you are. They asked some of the typical questions like why our program, why PM&R, where do you see yourself in 10 years, some specifics about your application (volunteer experiences, research, etc…). However, I was a little tripped up by one of the questions that Dr. Strax asked me-- Which one of your volunteer experiences do you like the best? I actually never thought about that before and told him that I did not have a favorite and that each one fulfills a special part of me (hopefully he did not think I was crazy, but I truly love each experience differently). Basically, it was all in a very non-intimidating manner and you felt that they were truly interested in what your journey has been like. Dr. Cuccurullo is such an approachable person and very easy to talk to (we talked a lot about our family/children) and she is truly “hand on” with all her residents. This does not seem like a place that will allow anyone to slip through the cracks.
  • *** 5 year full accreditation (26% of all programs in NY/NJ/PA have this status-- most with 3 years), it is there time again this year to be reviewed again by the ACGME
  • Dr. Strax lectures every week-- he is extremely involved with the residents and is definitely the person to have behind you for a fellowship placement.
  • 100% felloweship placement (top name places); 100% board pass rates; board review during senior year
  • SAE exams each year, the 12 major PM&R topics gone over in detail each month (coordinated with that month’s clinical experience, journal club & lectures); tested Q 3 mths on previous 3 topics. Each year the Academy updates 2 section/topics and they make sure they keep up with it.
  • Structured time to go over the syllabus within three years starting from day one (therefore they know you are studying and not waiting til the last minute).
  • Tuesdays are blocked lecture time (protected, but do not sign out pagers in case of a code-- otherwise an attending is writing the notes at that time)
  • Have anonymous evals by the residents to give pros and cons of the program
  • You are part of their “family” once you begin
  • Hands-on workshops and well-known lecturers come in
  • Allows flexibility to tailor to your interests
  • Oral boards (3 for each topic at the end of the 3 mth rotation); formatted after the national oral boards; Dr. Cuccurullo will work with the residents who may be having problems
  • 1:1 teaching ratio (actually attendings outnumber residents)
  • PGY 4 elective time (1 out rotation, 2 in-house); Dr. Cuccurullo suggests doing 1 week at each of your 4 top choices; or this can be an opportunity for research if that is your interest
  • Get plenty of EMGs (200-400)
  • Can take call from home if you can arrive within 30 minutes; otherwise in house
  • Open feel for what you want to do (very supportive if want to go into private practice, academics, fellowship, etc)
  • Staff seems very friendly, residents get along well
  • Rehab areas in hospital are impressive
  • Dr. Cuccurullo recently fought to increase salary
Overall, I was truly impressed with the Program. The only con I can find right now is the cost of living (I have a husband, daughter and another baby due in March) and am concerned about that. I will definitely be ranking this program, as the stats speak for themselves, but I was even more impressed with Dr. Cuccurllo’s, Dr. Strax’ and everyone’s dedication to the well-being of the residents (education, happiness, etc).

If any questions, you can PM me or just post it here. Take care and good luck to the rest of you on the interview trail.
 
Hey, has anyone interviewed at any of the NY programs or heard back from most of them? I applied a bit late and I'm getting worried...Thanks
 
JFK - Johson

I was very pleasantly surprised by this program. I knew it was strong previously but seeing it first hand strengthened my opinion even more. I wish I could add some more insight but PhysiatryMom (top notch applicant!) covered everything quite well. This program is for those who do well with structure but also like the freedom to tailor the program to their needs.
 
SUNY Buffalo
The interview day started at ~8am in the conference room (danishes, bagels, juice, coffee, yogurt) with a chance to meet other interviewees (total of only 4 that day—3 for PGY-1 and 1 for PGY2), as their program is categorical for 3 positions and the other is advanced (???). A few PGY-4s came in and introduced themselves as well as Dr. Polisoto (PD). It was a very laid back atmosphere. Dr. Polisoto seems to have a very good relationship with his residents and staff—he says they are is family and the residents do say that he always has an open door. Well, at 8:15am the interviews started (Gayle Thomson- the residency coordinator was extremely efficient and organized and made things run very smoothly). Each interview was a half hour long—my first was with Dr. Doreen Kelley (very laid back and nice person; asked the “usual” questions and nothing unexpected, but she did ask the “what if there was no PM&R residency, what would you be going into?” question). Next interview for me was combined with Dr. Polisoto (PD) and a chief (Dr. Beaupin). Also, very laid back and getting to know you (asked about things in application, etc), but I was also given a case scenario. Since call is from home they gave me a case to assess a patient over the phone with a nurse (played by chief and Dr. P) and determine what needs to be done and if I should come in. I was to ask questions, give a differential, etc. However, I felt it was very laid back and non-threatening, but made you think and use your clinical skills. Third interview was with Dr. Jong-Chaur Shieh and Dr. Paily (PGY-4) and it was also laid back and getting to know you. Last interview was with Dr. Naughton (Interim Chair) and it was similar to the other interviews.

Next, was a PowerPoint presentation by Dr. Beaupin. He basically gave an overview of the program and was very honest with what he thinks the weaknesses are. Actually, Dr. P was also very upfront and did not want to hide anything. The main issue with the program seems to be that your PGY-2 year is the same as the intern year—you are working very hard with a patient load of 15-17 and it is mainly all medicine (however, if you get through it the residents say that you can take care of anyone). The number of beds is increasing and they need more residents.
  • The hospital (ECMC) is the regional SCI and TBI center and you will see a lot
  • 1st time board pass rate 85.7%
  • Last accreditation 4 years (to be reviewed in 2008)
  • May not be the place for you if you are truly into research (only ~ a total of one month, but if you are excited about doing a specific project it seems that Dr. P will fight to get you more time).
  • Plus is that EMGs in Buffalo are done by PM&R and not neurology so you get good exposure
  • Teleconferences with Syracuse and Rochester (each have their “experts” teach on specific topic and residents seem happy with it)
  • Although most attendings are very friendly, many are not necessarily “proactive” with teaching, but if you ask then they will teach you in detail
  • 1:1 teaching ratio, but make sure you are proactive so if you want tons of structure and want to be spoon fed it may not be the place for you
  • Plenty of places to rotate—Buffalo General, VA, Roswell Park (Cancer), Women’s & Children Hosp, etc.
  • Residents get along well, but we were told that the last class that just graduated were “different”
  • Good relationship with other depts.
Tour of the hospital—looks like most hospitals. We were supposed to interview with the Medicine dept, but it was cancelled because Dr. Nolan was in a car accident and wasn’t going to be in until later (however, it was not a major accident thank goodness). Basically, it was supposed to be mainly a session to ask questions about the intern year and we were told that basically the medicine dept would take the “word” from the PM&R dept as to whether or not we are a good fit, etc. The day ended with an optional Buffalo city tour with Dr. P. Buffalo is a much nicer city than I imagined with plenty to do and great cost of living. However, you need to like snow if you want to live there.

Overall, I felt it was a solid program and Dr. P is very approachable and upfront about the program’s weaknesses. He is trying to change things, but it is not as easy as it seems. I am sure I forgot some things, but you can PM me if you have specific questions.
 
Is nobody posting their interview stories because nobody is going on any interviews or because they're too lazy? 🙂 I've been on four and it's just so tiring that the last thing I want to do is sit and type out what I found out from these programs, but I am definitely going to do so when the "trail" settles down a little bit... anyone in the same boat as me?
-savealife
 
Haven't gone on any regular interviews yet, but I could see the same happening to me during the time I have 4 interviews plus one conference within 18 days. Please share the wealth when the interview trail gives you a chance to catch your breath. 🙂
 
Is nobody posting their interview stories because nobody is going on any interviews or because they're too lazy? 🙂 I've been on four and it's just so tiring that the last thing I want to do is sit and type out what I found out from these programs, but I am definitely going to do so when the "trail" settles down a little bit... anyone in the same boat as me?
-saveloy


I have to disagree- i think its important to take the extra time (probably 10minutes - which isn't much) between interviews to give your general opinion on programs. 😀 Many people deciding on which interview to go on may take others opinions into consideration when traveling across country and not to mention the extra expense; if its not worth going it may save you alot of money. I am a bit surprised, appears as if this years group isn't really interested in helping each other out. When I was interviewing, there were so many reviews about the different programs it was great. There were also those surprises, places you may not have considered may now sound attractive. Things change in programs from year to year as well so its nice to get update or changes that may ultimately affect you decision for residency selection.
 
Just wondering if Northshore-LIJ did a one day interview the day before Thanksgiving like they did last year. That was a crazy day and took me 6 hours to drive back home. Hope they changed it
 
Sorry-- I have not posted my additional 5 interviews because of time constraints between interviewing for both PM&R and Medicine prelims, being exhausted from pregnancy, "trying" to study for Step 2 and watching my very active 16 mth old. In addition to the above two programs that I posted info for, I have interviewed at Albany, Univ of Rochester, Case/Metro, Toledo and Ohio State. I will try to get to writing them, however feel free to PM me if you have any questions and I will try to get back to you as soon as I can.
 
The reviews in the past years are quite accurate. I'll try to avoid repetition, but there are two places that seem to be growing for the better:

UPenn- starting July 2008, residents will be at a completely new building, free standing. 3 electives and the chair/PD reserves right to decrease that on a case by case basis if one of the other rotations was not completed in a satisfactory manner. in general, the future rotation curriculum will adapt as they feel out how things go at the new building.

Spaulding- free standing, so on-call resident would run code ("it happens, but is very rare" according to resident who gave the tour.) opportunities to teach/tutor for HMS. some of the PGY2's lectures given by PGY3's and 4's. added a rheum rotation. still plenty of selective/elective rotations. new chair started about a month ago.

The bulk of my interviews are in January, so I'll post more then. Good luck! :luck:
 
Hey fellas (and gals), I've interviewed at just a couple of places so far but here's my $.02:

JFK: See excellent post by PhysiatryMom above. It's an excellent program, very focused on clinical education and board preparation. Program Director Dr. Cucurullo is very involved in ensuring the wellbeing of her residents, and the structure her program provides is exceptional from what I have heard about other PM&R programs, where Prpgram Director's are more hands-off (laissez-faire PD's might appeal to some, not me--I prefer the PD be active and creative type). Residents were happy. For Spinal Cord, they send their residents to Kessler; this gives the "best of both worlds" situation by exposing the residents to Model Systems for both SCI (Kessler) and TBI (JFK); as I discuss below, this is similar to the advantage gained by BU redsidents, who get the Model Systems exposure in both SCI (at BU) and TBI (Spaulding). I don't know that much about Edison but Jersey folks tell me it's relatively good times. The group interview with Dr. Strax was pretty intimidating for me, and I don't usually feel intimidated by NObody (except for the time I met Kevin Garnett, but that's neither here nor there). Dr. Strax asked me "where do you see yourself in 10 years" and I didn't feel my answer satisfied him--but later I felt better because I answered honestly and didn't soil myself.

BU: Located in my back-yaahd, Boston Medical Center serves as the Model Systems program for spinal cord injury. It shares the PM&R scene in boston with tufts and harvard/spaulding. As mentioned above, residents at BU do 2 months at Spaulding for their TBI component--this is great because Spaulding has some fantastic attendings in TBI. BU Program Director Steve Williams M.D. and associate PD Kristin Gustafson D.O. are both spinal cord docs who care very much for their patients. As for the program itself, the residents seem genuinely happy and are on call Q4 (in-house)...the SCI service is being temporarily downsized to 12 beds from 16, because of hospital re-organization but this didn't seem to worry anybody. One complaint I did hear was that residents are required to attend the once-weekly outpatient clinic, even if they are post-call. But by and large this seemed like a happy bunch. All this year's PGY-4's are applying for some sort of pain fellowship or another.

SUNY-Downstate: My interview day at Downstate was weird. The day started at 1:00 PM, but there was only one other kid there at 1 pm and we both sat around and waited for at least 45 minutes before i was called for an interview (the first of 3). The first interviewer seemed tremendously unenthusiastic about being there; he is a new attending (<2 yrs) and seemed indifferent to both the program and my presence. He asked me one generic question ('tell me something about yourself'), and then asked me if I had any questions. I asked a few questions of him and that was it. My next interviewer plunged me deeper into bizarro-land. The guy (whose name I don't recall) used to be very involved in the program but is no longer (he refused to give me his contact information). He asked me about my interest in PM&R and when I began to answer, interrupted me to pimp about various PM&R things. He then said something about how folks sometimes come to Downstate to do 'practice' interviews; I told him I was genuinely interested in the program, and wouldn't have taken time off to show up to merely practice! He changed the subject and offered me some advice about the value of clinical observation; it was weird. Later, he would try to dissuade me from entering spinal cord medicine (which I'd expressed interest in pursuing) and told me I didn't know what I was getting in to (even though I'd done a couple of SCI rotations already!). *I should say, this guy is not going to be interviewing for the rest of the season--i think he may have been a fill-in--so if you are reading this before your interview don't worry. You won't met this guy. But my last interview, with Program Director Dr. Pipia, saved the day. He is an endearing fellow who has rescued the program from probation (it is no longer under probation, but had been prior to his arrival as PD). He explained his various educational initiatives aimed at increasing the board pass rate (this year 50%, but those residents were not admitted by him--'his' first class is currently PGY-2). These include shoring up protected time for board review, $750 allowance for books, free PDA, financial support for presenting at conferences, and free attendance at the Kessler board review (PGY-3). He seemed enthusiastic about the direction of the program and I definitely came away with a warm feeling about Downstate thanks to him. Having said that, I can't help but feel Downstate is shooting itself in the foot by presenting themselves so poorly with the shoddy interview day and unenthusiastic interviewers.

I've probably left out some important facts so others should feel free to add! Got questions for me? Not sure I can answer beyond what I've written, but go ahead and PM me! 😛
 
Hi guys,
just wondering have anybody interviewed at NUMC this year and your impressions regarding the program?
 
SUNY-Downstate: My interview day at Downstate was weird. The day started at 1:00 PM, but there was only one other kid there at 1 pm and we both sat around and waited for at least 45 minutes before i was called for an interview (the first of 3). The first interviewer seemed tremendously unenthusiastic about being there; he is a new attending (<2 yrs) and seemed indifferent to both the program and my presence. He asked me one generic question ('tell me something about yourself'), and then asked me if I had any questions. I asked a few questions of him and that was it. My next interviewer plunged me deeper into bizarro-land. The guy (whose name I don't recall) used to be very involved in the program but is no longer (he refused to give me his contact information). He asked me about my interest in PM&R and when I began to answer, interrupted me to pimp about various PM&R things. He then said something about how folks sometimes come to Downstate to do 'practice' interviews; I told him I was genuinely interested in the program, and wouldn't have taken time off to show up to merely practice! He changed the subject and offered me some advice about the value of clinical observation; it was weird. Later, he would try to dissuade me from entering spinal cord medicine (which I'd expressed interest in pursuing) and told me I didn't know what I was getting in to (even though I'd done a couple of SCI rotations already!). *I should say, this guy is not going to be interviewing for the rest of the season--i think he may have been a fill-in--so if you are reading this before your interview don't worry. You won't met this guy. But my last interview, with Program Director Dr. Pipia, saved the day. He is an endearing fellow who has rescued the program from probation (it is no longer under probation, but had been prior to his arrival as PD). He explained his various educational initiatives aimed at increasing the board pass rate (this year 50%, but those residents were not admitted by him--'his' first class is currently PGY-2). These include shoring up protected time for board review, $750 allowance for books, free PDA, financial support for presenting at conferences, and free attendance at the Kessler board review (PGY-3). He seemed enthusiastic about the direction of the program and I definitely came away with a warm feeling about Downstate thanks to him. Having said that, I can't help but feel Downstate is shooting itself in the foot by presenting themselves so poorly with the shoddy interview day and unenthusiastic interviewers.

Sounds like a pretty typical story actually. I've heard similar tales from friends interviewing at hospitals across the country in surgical and medical specialties.

Basically:
1) Most academic physicians have zero social skills.
2) Medical institutions are witless on how to sell themselves.
3) Attendings are dragged into interviewing people by the program director, which they hate doing. They cannot conceal their resentment, and take out their frustration on the person being interviewed.
4) Some of these guys are so used to dicking people around all day (residents, interns, medical students, nurses, etc.), that they just can't control themselves anymore. They can't spend even 5 minutes with someone without berating them.
 
EVMS - very small program but you WILL get a very personalized education. Strong in interventional (Dr. Quidgley gets you in there first thing PGY2) and Peds (2mo inpt 2mo outpt and their PD is a big peds person - their attached kids hospital is stellar). Call is pretty benign and infrequent. Next to the med school so awesome library. Location is great, you can easily live within walking distance if you do an apt. or condo, a single family home gets you a 15+ minute drive unless you're loaded. Weaknesses are the facilities (older and a little cramped, no res personal space), the travel (several sites, some up to an hour away if you hit traffic) and it seems the residents don't really interact outside of work if the 'social' aspect is up on your list.

Sinai Baltimore - you'll work hard your PGY2, heavy inpatient and take the brunt of the call sched. That said you only have call for about half of 3 and none of 4. Residents seemed happy and laid back but again no real social atmosphere. Good general/well-rounded education. Neighborhood is not the best. Facilities are nice but basic. PD is very approachable and I get the feeling that if you wanted something to change, she will help you make it happen (ie. didactics/rotations etc).

VCU Richmond - well established program (PD there > 15 years) with strong board success rate. Nice facilities (attached to VCU med school) and decent area, has a college feel. Good well-rounded education, minimal research pressure (but excellent support with whatever crazy thing you want to try to get published), the VA center is one of the few designated polytrauma centers and is a short drive from the main site. Residents all seem genuinely happy to be there. As with most, call is PGY2 heavy and then lightens.

ECU Greenville - Small program, small town (but growing, if you enjoy a smaller college town with cheap real estate and a lot of potential this is your place). The hospital is a huge landmark, people probably give all directions based on its location, attached to ECU med school which has very nice facilities. All call from home, travel to to EMGs but always with the attending in a 'company' car. The residents were very nice, a little sedate for this big city girl, but nice nonetheless🙂

Okay, too many details swimming in my brain, please feel free to PM me if you want any more specifics on the above....I'll add more as they fall.
 
I don't mean to hijack this thread since I will be doing interviews next year, but I was wondering if anyone who's interviewed at KU, UM-Columbia (Mizzou), and Washington University (which I haven't heard good things about) could post how their interviews went and what they liked/disliked about the programs, since even last year's gigantic interview thread didnt really mention these programs.
 
U of Miami: A new program (graduating its first class this upcoming year), U of M may well be the best kept secret in the PM&R residency menagerie (*). Program Director Andrew Sherman MD is a dedicated clinician and educator who is constantly upgrading the educational modules (lectures, board review) to optimize their utility to residents. Residents all seem happy and comprise a relatively tight-knit bunch. Loathe as I am to use bullets, here we go for some more plusses!
PROS:
  • Model systems for both TBI and SCI
  • Program includes 2 outpatient months during PGY-2, so as to ensure early exposure to clinic settings
  • A well-supported program which includes not only Jackson Memorial Hospital (public, academic center) and the Miami VA (it's a...VA), but the recently-purchased Cedars Medical Center (private), now renamed 'University of Miami Hospital.' This allows for exposure to a wide range of inpatient settings.
  • Excellent protection of residents by both program director and department head to minimize exploitation (also, collective bargaining agreement signed thru 2008!)
  • The Miami Project to cure spinal cord injury (Kevin Everett, anyone?) and other cutting-edge research initiatives
  • If you're into pain, all of this year's graduating class matched into top pain programs (U of Miami, U of Fla, and other)
  • Location in ethnically-diverse, meteorologically-tropical Miami!
  • Mandatory course on 'how to conduct research' given by PD, followed by ample support for resident-guided research endeavors
  • Good-sized but not too big (expanding this year to 6)
  • Well-organized didactix n' board review organized such that the curriculum is gone over three times by the time you sit down to take dem boardz
  • Call is light--as few as 4 call days per month as a PGY-2
  • There are more plus bullets I've forgotten them
CONS:
  • It's a young program (first graduating class this year), so that may be a drawback for your fragile ego
  • Only 5 of the six spots this year may be thru the match (ERAS has been dragging their feet on this point, so it may not offer the sixth spot inside the match until next year)
  • Relatively low snowfall in Miami (for you skiers out there, you may be disappointed--climate ain't changing that much, bub)
  • That's pretty much it



(*) that's right, I used that word. Not actually 100% sure what it means; PM me if yer interested in knowing i'm a look it up now :laugh:
 
If you're into pain, all of this year's graduating class matched into top pain programs (U of Miami, U of Fla, and other)
Top Pain Programs? Not so much ...
 
Top Pain Programs? Not so much ...

My interviewer told me that these pain programs were highly regarded; he said the U of Miami program was especially competitive. But I've got no idea about these things--just relaying info!
 
My interviewer told me that these pain programs were highly regarded; he said the U of Miami program was especially competitive. But I've got no idea about these things--just relaying info!
might want to look into what people tell you - otherwise you are subject to being spun
 
I will be somewhat brief, but give you what I thought was important and what stuck out in regards to pros/cons. Sorry, they are not as detailed as my 1st 2 posts…

Univ. of Rochester: Cost of living great and salary much higher than most programs (I believe that next year they will start out about $45000). Medical benefits covered, including dependents. I interviewed on a Saturday with 3 other candidates. Two PGY-2’s took us for a tour of rehab unit (basic- 20 beds), PT/OT (all essentials, car, apartment), tour of Outpt Center offsite (only couple of miles from Strong Memorial Hosp)—everything at one site (imaging, hand rehab, spine center (with interventional & electrodiagnostics), sports med, speech path, PT/OT, outpt clinic (with botox clinics), etc.
  • 4 interviews—1 with PD, 2 with attendings and the other was with PhD (neuropsych); not sure if these are the typical interviewers or not. Typical questions were asked—very laid back
  • CARF accredited PM&R facility
  • Main hospital (Strong) has 700+ beds, level 1 trauma and is a tertiary and quaternary center for upstate NY; also has bone marrow, cardiac, renal & liver transplant centers (which you will take care of). Other facilities Rochester General (16 beds), St. Mary’s ~28 beds (6 peds and mainly where you get TBI); other specialty clinics
  • well-rounded program; research required
  • PD seems to alter program as she sees fit, especially if residents are finding something that is not beneficial to their training (i.e. she took away the surgery rotations for the intern year because residents felt that they were doing too much scut work and spending too much time in OR, so she took it away and added more medicine, which I feel is important).
  • 1:1 resident to faculty teaching
  • Attendings enthusiastic to teach
  • Home call
  • Adding “contracts” with 4 local nursing homes
  • 100% board pass rates (I think), but oral board scores have gone down slightly so PD is changing program to improve; seems like a very strong and solid program
Albany: Only accepts 2 residents/yr—initially I thought this would be a disadvantage re: coverage, etc, but residents seem to love it and it works for them.
  • PD very friendly, but he says when you work with him he is very fast-paced and expects you to work hard
  • Faculty happy and willing to teach
  • Salary as of 7/07—PGY-1 $46,500 and cost of living very affordable
  • Do not fully cover insurance for dependents, but still relatively reasonable
  • 6 interviews (1 with PD, 1 with chair, 3 with attendings and 1 with 2 residents); all very laid back and typical
  • Positive atmosphere
  • 20 bed inpatient at Albany Medical Center; freestanding outpt. center, 20 bed VA, 36 bed Rehab center; other facilities as well
  • Well-rounded and seems like a strong program
Case/MetroHealth: I thought this program was great and has tons to offer.
  • Cleveland FES center with amazing research going on (neuroprosthetics, etc). Dr. Chae is the rehab research director, but you do not get the feel that they are pushing you to pursue research as a career
  • Community hospital with a lot volunteer experience with community; Gersen Center that provides community with resources for care, etc
  • Medical insurance coverage reasonable
  • Intern year seems to be relatively low-stress (I believe there is only four months of call, which is unheard of)
  • “Easy Street” was amazing for outpt. training (real-life experiences)
  • 5 interviews (1 with PD, and rest are faculty/attendings); laid back and typical (everyone was wonderful)
  • Great atmosphere
  • CARF accredited; 68 inpt rehab beds with specialized units for SCI, TBI and stroke; specialty clinics and continuity clinics
  • Model system for SCI (one of 14)
  • Level 1 adult & peds trauma and burn center for all Northeast Ohio
  • Weakness is peds rehab since that main doc left and an interim is filling in which is not as “solid” in teaching per residents, but they are working to hire someone, but as most of us know there are not that many peds rehab docs
  • 5 yr accreditation; 100% board pass rates; research required
Very impressed and will be ranking it very highly ! Very well rounded and loved the environment immediately.

Univ. of Toledo: will keep brief since only one other person interviewing there. Only accepts 2/yr, but residents are happy and it seems more like a strength than a weakness.
  • Very solid program and well-rounded
  • Salary, insurance and cost of living reasonable
  • 4 interviews—laid back and typical
  • Weakness is peds exposure, but they are working with Ohio State to possibly allow their residents to rotate down there at the Children’s hosp
  • Not a huge research center if that is your interest
  • Increasing their rehab beds; inpt rehab floor is newly renovated

Ohio State: Thought this was an amazing program and will likely be at the top of my list!
  • Dr. Johnson is there and what else can you say re: EMG exposure with him around; most residents say that they will end up with about 500-600
  • 5 interviews (3 at Dodd Rehab-- one is very low key while you are getting a tour from PD one on one, 1 with Dr. Pease (chair), and 1 with attending (peds); then chief takes you to Riverside Methodist where you interview with 2 more attendings; laid back and getting to know you (typical)
  • 5 year accreditation
  • Dr. Clinchot (PD) is great and extremely hands-on with his program—everyone seems to love him
  • Residents happy and very willing to answer questions; community volunteer experience
  • I never thought of moonlighting before since I am a mother too, but during your upper level years you can work with the Workman’s Comp bureau and make $20 every 10 minutes reviewing charts—how can you pass that up… $120/hr
  • Stand alone rehab hospital adjacent to main medical center with all the essentials for adequate care of patients; numerous other facilities and specialty clinics
  • Cost of living, salary and insurance reasonable
  • Inviting atmosphere—I feel in love with it immediately
  • Peds here is top notch and many residents end up doing peds rehab because of the great exposure
  • Also, many of the faculty will tend to “create” a fellowship for you if you are interested in something specific (e.g. spasticity)
  • Great education, home call, great board pass rates, I have not have anything negative to say. You can go anywhere after training here…
Post or PM me if you have additional questions… I am sure I forgot things. Also, interviewed at Marianjoy and Syracuse (will post later, but let me know if you would like info prior)
 
ampaphb, the "other" resident from Miami mentioned above landed the Falco fellowship associated with Temple - what is your opinion of this program
 
sorry... i thought this was a place where i could post my honest opinions
 
Hello everyone,

I would greatly appreciate if anyone can share their experience with Emory, Mt. Sinai, and Albert Einstein. Thanks!
 
Anyone interviewing at Kessler... I'd love to hear what an interview there was like. Thanks!
 
I will post my interview experiences next week... if anyone has any specific questions about any of the programs I have interviews at, I have completed most of my interviews and you can see where I'm interviewing on the thread regarding where we all have interviews. I would be MORE THAN HAPPY to answer the questions, I'm just in a very busy time in my life right now and I cannot post full commentaries right now.

Again, if you have any specific questions about some interviews, I have finished most of mine and there's a thread that lists where we've all interviewed.

Regards,
savealife
 
My best interview day so far was at Pittsburgh. Everything there was basically perfect. They have interviewing down to a science. They sell their institution so well, you can't help but think that Pittsburgh must be the #1 PM&R residency in the country. I'm not saying that it is, but that's the impression that they give off. They highlight their achievements well, they treat the interviewees with respect, they're enthusiastic about meeting each individual candidate, and they take you out someplace good for lunch. 👍 They don't waste your time showing you the broom closet or reading off the names of 50 attendings that you're never going to meet. Also, their secretary takes seriously her job to accommodate people who are coming in for interviews and provide them with prompt and useful information unlike some institution's secretaries *cough* Baylor Houston *cough*. Now I'm not sure how highly I'll rank Pittsburgh, just because I have other places in mind due to family/personal reasons. But it's definitely jumped up in my estimation. If you're a struggling program director and you want to see how it's done, go to Pittsburgh.
 
I am texting this from my interview at LIJ.......huge group interview which seemw to be a bit impersonal. But the food is awesome.
Will contribute update when I get home.
 
Thread seems more quiet than previous years. Anyone bothering to update reviews of previous PM&R rotations or interviews on scutwork.com at least? It's sad when people are saying that my scutwork.com review as a medical student was the last review available for a program... heh.
 
It is January and there are only a few weeks of interview season left. I can tell you I have kept in touch with many people I met on the interview trail and on sdn and that the contacts you make now and the help you give each other now will come back to benefit you later. I have used sdn resources a lot - during my application process, interviews, ROL time, etc. AND I also used and shared during my fellowship application process. PM&R is a small field and knowing a lot of people and networking always helps.

so share away!😍
 
I just interviewed on Friday and here are your positives:
Very strong in msk and a great chance to work with Dr. Dowling who is a legend in the OMM field. Dr Weiss is also a great resource as she has published books to help residents and will go out on a limb to help you. Recently promised by hospital that there rehab unit will be redone.

Now for the negatives:
Poor in sci and tbi as you have to do it with stony brook. Peds is done as an outpatient.
As for my interview day I had four other people with me and only had one interview with Dr. Weiss. It was a typical PMR interview (laid back) and after that we had lunch with the residents who were pretty much all DOs. Most of them were from NYCOM.
 
I had the second interview date and it was a very large crowd (around 20). Our interview day started with an overview of the program and the north shore system by the program director and the program chair. (neurology chair who said they are looking for a pmr chair) After that we broke up into two groups. One group had the tour of the main hospital (the one where you spend the most time) and the other group had their interviews. I had my tour first and then three interviews. (2 with an attending and 1 with a cheif resident) Our day ended around 2:30. The program has you traveling all around long island and even to new york city for sci. (although they promised this would change)
 
Finally for the last long island program. The interview day started at St. Charles Rehab hospital which is about 5 miles away from Stony Brook Hospital. They start by having everyone together in a meeting room and the program director (Stickevers) goes over the program with Dennis Lawney interjecting about the VA portions of the rotation during the residency program. After that you have two interviews and one is with Stickevers, the other with an attending. They would ask you about your interest in PMR and about the area. It wasn't too bad. After the interviews you get a tour of the hospital and then a lecture with the residents in attendance. The program has you going from St. Charles to Good Samaritan (West Islip, NY) to the VA hospital (Northport, NY). The VA hospital seems to be the selling point but St. Charles has you doing SCI, TBI, and peds there. The day I interviewed they had no patients on the peds floor.
 
Well, since interview reviews are just about done, is it possible we can get a rank list thread going?
If some people prefer, we could probably find a way to make it anonymous (generic username like "Ranklist" and password, and then can post under that name)
 
Has anyone scheduled a second look? How should we dress? Business casual? suit? I'd appreciate any input.
 
I have been to a few second looks and wore business casual. I think a suit would have been too much as I shadowed attendings and residents for a few hours.
 
Hi There, I just wanted to contribute my 2 cents on interviewing. I am looking for a small - medium program. My priorities are strong didactics, 50/50 in/out pt, affordable location and happy residents. I didn't want the "big city" programs so I hope these comments help those of you who are looking for a more balanced residency experience. These comments are more personal impressions of the interview day. Didactic/curriculum/program specifics can be found on the program websites.

I applied to 30 PM&R programs (which is way too much for PM&R) and got 27 interview offers of which I did 16. I did the following ones in the Midwest:

Midwest:
MCW - Milwaukee: I did an externship here in TBI and really loved the program. The residents are young and enthusiastic and Dr. Dillingham is VERY supportive. The faculty is top-notch and I did not see any of the negative stuff that has been floating around SDN. The residents at MCW score the top scores in Spinal Cord and they get a ton of EMGs. The main EMG insturctor Dr. Wertsch is the country's leading specialist in hand electrodiagnostics. Milwaukee is the city of festivals, has affordable housing from artsy, coffee-cafe bound neighborhoods to downtown lofts with club scenes, and it has a beautiful shoreline beach and parks on Lake MI.The facilities are excellent with designated TBI and SCI units. Overall, an A- program.


Univ of WI - Madison: Cancelled due to scheduling, which I was really bummed out about. I loved Madison!

Loyola - CHicago: Nice that the hospital is in the 'burbs' = slightly better commuting scene ( It still took me 45 minutes to drive 7 miles at 8 am.) and you could live outside of downtown with affordable housing (residents said they pay 700 - 900/mo for 1 bdrm). Pros: This program offers excellent procedure exposure, probably second after UTSW-Dallas. Residents were happy and no-nonsense kinda people. They seemed busy but not tired. Most are going into pain fellowships or private practice. PAtient base is a good mix of people from different walks of life. Cons: you have to rotate away for your TBI at Marionjoy = long commute. The program Director only spent 5 minutes with each candidate, so this tells me that she was not invested all that much into who applied to the program. Most residents went there because they already lived there or didnt want to live downtown Chicago. Overall a B- program.

Marionjoy - Chicago burbs: Amazing facility located about an hour outside of downtown Chicago on sculpted lawns complete with gazebos and gardens. This is a stand-alone facility = lots of medicine. Pros: you will definitely get good training to be a private practictioner. Better housing options, best facilities I have ever seen on the interview trail, excellent resident support by the program chair (like a dad), and you get to rotate thru Loyola for more procedures. Cons: residents seemed a bit tired; lots of medicine when you are on-call which is in house, resident call room was very nice though. Overall a B program.

RUSH - Cancelled due to scheduling
RIC - Cancelled due to the fact that I realized that I didn't want to live in Chicago after doing a couple of interviews. However, one of my classmates is there and she loves it; But she is one of those "gunners" and has family in the area.

MAYO - Rochester, MN: I almost did not go to this interview because of the location and I didnt want to buy into the "name-game"; but...If you could build your fantasy hospital - this is it. WOW, what an amazing place. Their PM&R program is very strong and has excellent overall exposure to just about everything. Pros: well its Mayo, excellent sports med exposure and MSK and pain procedures. You can rotate down in AZ for pain elective. Lots of acquired brain injury and spinal cord. Excellent research support (which is expected of the residents) The facilities were amazing with a new sports/health club built just for employees of Mayo - with running track, gym, salt-water pools and healthy food. Cons: No basketball courts in gym. Rochester is a small town (100K people) of which 1/3 work at Mayo, apartments are surprisingly expensive with purchasing a house being less than some rentals. Categorical positions (2) means you get Mayo Medicine year your 1st PGY1 year. Residents say it is tough and you are required to finish your STEP 3 within the first 6 mos while on your medicine wards = bleach! Not a lot of TBI or trauma. Advanced positions (6), Residents seemed happy and well prepared. For those of you with wardrobe budgets, be prepared to spend $$$ on more of those interview suits. No whitecoats at Mayo, all residents/faculty wear suits everyday and they each other "consultants". This is cool with me, but it was a turn off for some applicants. Program Score = A

Univ of CO - Denver: Another great program, though small number of residents. All residents are stellar though, no slackers in the bunch. all very out-doorsey kinda folk and ambitious. Expect to do research here, maybe help write a chapter in a review/textbook, save the world etc. Pros: Best overall program exposure to everything (even better than Mayo), rotate through Craig Spine Center, excellent VA and EMG exposure, Women's sports clinic in Boulder. Great supportive chair - excellent peds exposure if you are interested. The country's Peds-Rehab Gurus are all there (Drs. Apkon, Mathews, Wilson). New spinal procedure guy = more injections if you want them. New facilities at the Univ of CO. Excellent skiing, hiking, stuff to do. Cons: I used to live in Denver and didn't like it the traffic then and it is worse now. Be prepared to drive a lot in this residency. You will not see your fellow residents except on didactic days, which residents help set up with food and guest speakers. Housing can be expensive if you don't take the time to find the right neighborhood. Umm, did I mention the traffic? Also its a mile-high = very dry weather but beautiful and sunny almost every day of the year. People actually get in accidents due to the sun. It snows and yes you will have to dig your car out at least a couple times a year. Program = A

UTSW - Dallas: If you like autonomy and being thrown into a fire-by-trial - then this is your place. This progam is the typical see-one, do-one, teach-one kinda place = TONS of procedures. Pros: you rotate through one of the busiets public hospitals in Dallas which gets you a couple of procedures/day. Residents feel they don't need a pain fellowship after this program because of the amount of injections & EMGs they get to do. You will not be bored at this program. Program Chair is leader in PMR and nationally known. Cons: Program Chair is leader in PMR and nationally known = she was too busy to meet with the applicants one-on-one and she has no-nonsense attitude. You must have thick skin to survive this residency. Residents were OK but a bit tired. Most of the interviewees did not read my application and were being paged during the interview time - so my impression is that its pretty busy. This may be good for you but not for me. Plus Dallas was too big and flat and sprawling. Program score = C

Baylor - Dallas: Culture here is completely opposite to UTSW. Baylor is a smaller program and is focused on resident teaching. Faculty were not so busy and had the time to read through my application and talk with each applicants thoroughly. The facilities here were very nice with a children's unit inside an old converted mansion = cool! Program Chair is a bit of a techno-phile and had that MBA-buzz word speach; but seemed genuinely concerned about his residents. Who were VERY happy, well trained and confident. Cons: smaller program, in Dallas, not alot of procedure exposure. Program Score = B

Univ of MO - Cancelled due to scheduling

Hope this helps! I will post my South and East Coast interviews when I more time. Thanks and best of luck to all of you!
 
We finally finished interviewing this past week and thought it was quite surprising that a rumor was going around that UC Davis medical students get first dibs on spots. None of our 9 current residents (PGY2-4) are Davis graduates except for an intern who is completing her first year at an outside facility.

At any rate, we enjoyed having everyone over including those who could stay for the little get-togethers at our resident's house afterwards. Hope everyone finally gets some rest after all the interviewing and good luck with the rank order lists!
 
MAYO - Rochester, MN: I almost did not go to this interview because of the location and I didnt want to buy into the "name-game"; but...If you could build your fantasy hospital - this is it. WOW, what an amazing place. Their PM&R program is very strong and has excellent overall exposure to just about everything. Pros: well its Mayo, excellent sports med exposure and MSK and pain procedures. You can rotate down in AZ for pain elective. Lots of acquired brain injury and spinal cord. Excellent research support (which is expected of the residents) The facilities were amazing with a new sports/health club built just for employees of Mayo - with running track, gym, salt-water pools and healthy food. Cons: No basketball courts in gym. Rochester is a small town (100K people) of which 1/3 work at Mayo, apartments are surprisingly expensive with purchasing a house being less than some rentals. Categorical positions (2) means you get Mayo Medicine year your 1st PGY1 year. Residents say it is tough and you are required to finish your STEP 3 within the first 6 mos while on your medicine wards = bleach! Not a lot of TBI or trauma. Advanced positions (6), Residents seemed happy and well prepared. For those of you with wardrobe budgets, be prepared to spend $$$ on more of those interview suits. No whitecoats at Mayo, all residents/faculty wear suits everyday and they each other "consultants". This is cool with me, but it was a turn off for some applicants. Program Score = A

Most importantly, Rochester, MN is the home of the World Famous Nite Club "Aquarius" known to thousands of single male residents (and Consultants alike) as "Acquire a Virus."

http://local.rochestermn.com/The+Aquarius+Club.393206.12161309.home.html

If you do not make it point to visit this fine, fine establishment you've mis-spent your time up in frozen tundra...:laugh:
 
All my interviews were very laid back and I felt that they were trying to sell their program to me...

Mayo - Rochester
A+ Primo program, nice people, many successfully go into fellowships, many are interested in pain. Top place to learn EMG. Con: It was so cold I thought I was going to die after being outside for 10 minutes. If I were a resident there I would probibly offer to work extra and try to take in-house call because theres nothing else to do.

UW - Seattle
Excellent program, nice area, residents were amazingly smart (I don't know how, but they just oozed intellect...) Many do top fellowships. Less emphasis on pain. Many of grads go into academics and become program directors- this is not what I want for myself so its a CON. Parking and driving is a pain and expensive for residents.

UC Davis - Sacramento
Very nice program and nice residents, strength is msk, sports and peds. Good mix of inpt / outpt 50/50. Most grads work for Kaiser.

San Antonio -
Top notch program, grads get into top pain fellowships, low cost of housing, opportunities to make extra money on the side / moonlight. Training is excellent. Dr D's interview was the ONLY one that I felt intimidated by in all of the interview trail. He demands that you ask GOOD questions, not stupid ones and your questions propel the interview. I think I was sweating. Con:?

Baylor Dallas
I felt that the residents were babied way too much and do not learn autonomy. Even in their last year they still run all decisions by the attending. In my brief time there it seemed like the residents were more like 3rd year medical students who collected data from patients and staff and then called the attending for a decision- even in their last year. The residents can take vacation any time they want and are not missed when they are gone... Much like 3rd year medical students. The majority of the residents are DO's

UT south western
I didn't get to meet any of the residents because their clinic went long- Had a nice lunch with the PC and applicants though. It seemed that the residents are neglected and have too much autonomy early on. Which may lead to forming bad habits regarding patient care. Lots of FMG's

UC Irvine
Program is in a very nice and expensive location, residents are more interested in chicks than their training. Good mix of locations to rotate thru. For some reason I don't think I could get hired if I went there.

VA UCLA
One of the strongest of the California programs. VA based, but not a lot of time is spent at a VA. Many well planned outside rotations make this program well rounded. Very good pain fellowship is nearby. Con: Lots of driving and LA traffic makes getting around a major pain.

Loma Linda, Ca
Excellent program, medium size. Attendings are very good at their specialties and love to teach. This is the only program where I felt that the doctors truly practice whole person care in the sense that they care for the physical, emotional, and spiritual needs of the patient. This needs to be implemented in more programs throughout the country. Dr Strum is doing an excellent job running the TBI and SCI services. He teaches the residents to reason thru problems and guides them through the thought process. Dr Brandstater is legendary in the field of PM&R and sharpens the EMG skills of the residents. Con: EMG is clustered in a 6 month interval, it might be nice if it were more spread out so the residents could see more pathology and reflect on things a bit more. Semi-weak outpatient, but they are currently building a rehab center so that will change. The Loma Linda name is well known throughout southern california and the grads get jobs and fellowships easily.
 
All my interviews were very laid back and I felt that they were trying to sell their program to me...

Mayo - Rochester
A+ Primo program, nice people, many successfully go into fellowships, many are interested in pain. Top place to learn EMG. Con: It was so cold I thought I was going to die after being outside for 10 minutes. If I were a resident there I would probibly offer to work extra and try to take in-house call because theres nothing else to do.

UW - Seattle
Excellent program, nice area, residents were amazingly smart (I don't know how, but they just oozed intellect...) Many do top fellowships. Less emphasis on pain. Many of grads go into academics and become program directors- this is not what I want for myself so its a CON. Parking and driving is a pain and expensive for residents.

UC Davis - Sacramento
Very nice program and nice residents, strength is msk, sports and peds. Good mix of inpt / outpt 50/50. Most grads work for Kaiser.

San Antonio -
Top notch program, grads get into top pain fellowships, low cost of housing, opportunities to make extra money on the side / moonlight. Training is excellent. Dr D's interview was the ONLY one that I felt intimidated by in all of the interview trail. He demands that you ask GOOD questions, not stupid ones and your questions propel the interview. I think I was sweating. Con:?

Baylor Dallas
I felt that the residents were babied way too much and do not learn autonomy. Even in their last year they still run all decisions by the attending. In my brief time there it seemed like the residents were more like 3rd year medical students who collected data from patients and staff and then called the attending for a decision- even in their last year. The residents can take vacation any time they want and are not missed when they are gone... Much like 3rd year medical students. The majority of the residents are DO's

UT south western
I didn't get to meet any of the residents because their clinic went long- Had a nice lunch with the PC and applicants though. It seemed that the residents are neglected and have too much autonomy early on. Which may lead to forming bad habits regarding patient care. Lots of FMG's

UC Irvine
Program is in a very nice and expensive location, residents are more interested in chicks than their training. Good mix of locations to rotate thru. For some reason I don't think I could get hired if I went there.

VA UCLA
One of the strongest of the California programs. VA based, but not a lot of time is spent at a VA. Many well planned outside rotations make this program well rounded. Very good pain fellowship is nearby. Con: Lots of driving and LA traffic makes getting around a major pain.

Loma Linda, Ca
Excellent program, medium size. Attendings are very good at their specialties and love to teach. This is the only program where I felt that the doctors truly practice whole person care in the sense that they care for the physical, emotional, and spiritual needs of the patient. This needs to be implemented in more programs throughout the country. Dr Strum is doing an excellent job running the TBI and SCI services. He teaches the residents to reason thru problems and guides them through the thought process. Dr Brandstater is legendary in the field of PM&R and sharpens the EMG skills of the residents. Con: EMG is clustered in a 6 month interval, it might be nice if it were more spread out so the residents could see more pathology and reflect on things a bit more. Semi-weak outpatient, but they are currently building a rehab center so that will change. The Loma Linda name is well known throughout southern california and the grads get jobs and fellowships easily.


I interviewed at a majority of these programs 7 years ago and I've got to say that the reviews have stayed remarkably consistent. Here are things that I wish I would have placed more emphasize upon when selecting a program:

1) Elective time -- You need at least 4 months; preferably six.

2) Department/Institution relationships -- Physiatry is very broad. If you want to do a rheum rotation, or an ortho spine rotation, or a even just something out of left field, can they accomodate you?

3) Teaching and training philosophy -- The goal of residency is to make you competent and INDEPENDENT. If you're not running a service as a senior and instead still functioning as a "resi-tern" you're being done a disservice.

4) Think "Napolean Dynamite:" Employers like physiatrists with *SKILLS* not just knowledge. Injection skills, EMG skills, Industrial medicine/occ med skills, admin medical skills, presentational skills, etc.

5) Structured didactics. Bedside teaching should be the icing on the cake, not the primary educational vehicle. The days of Oslerian medicine are over. Everything we know about adult learning points to high quality, interactive, didactics as the most efficient way to assimilate new knowledge.

Be wary of programs that emphasize *YOUR* need to be a "self-motivated" learner. If you ever hear the word "spoon-feed" from a residency during an interview, drop them to the bottom your list. By virtue of your completion of college, medical school, and internship you are "self-motivated." What you need now is a high yield, dense education of sufficient depth and breadth about a complex field of medicine.

6) Intensive anatomy/kinesiology reviews. Every PM&R program should do a musculoskeletal/neuromuscular cadaver dissection. Face it, in medical school you didn't know what the hell you were looking at. To go back through the cadaver again in a focused manner is what will make you an outstanding physiatrist.

7) EMG training with both neurologists and physiatrists. There are conceptual differences in the way both specialties approach EDX. There is value in learning the best of both approaches.
 
Excellent post drusso. I had a few questions regarding some of the points.

1) Elective time - What is the best way to use elective time. I am interested in sports and spine. What electives would you suggest?

2) How do you prove that you have the "skills" when applying for a job?
 
I agree wholeheartedly with drusso's list of questions he wished he asked.

I double agree with the importance of skills. Mad crazy skills are even more desirable, if available

And I triple agree with the need to run independently. that doesn't mean being thrown to the wolves right from the get go- you should have enough mentorship so she are running things independently and correctly, but you should be running rotations independently by the end of a rotation
 
UC Irvine
Program is in a very nice and expensive location, residents are more interested in chicks than their training. Good mix of locations to rotate thru. For some reason I don't think I could get hired if I went there.

Out of the 15 residents in this program, 10 are male. Out of those 10, only 2 are single. You either just happened to run into those 2 guys or some of my classmates need to be put back in line by their ladies.
 
Now that you all are pretty much done with interviews and ranklists are to be submitted soon, any other reviews of the programs you guys/gals have been to? I am sure the soon to be MS4s would appreciate your input...
 
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