2007 Match Lists

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Robert Wood Johnson Medical School
2007 Graduate Medical Education Placement


Ninety-seven percent of the Class of 2007 who were enrolled in the National Resident Matching Program matched. The national average was ninety-three percent. The following programs and specialties were represented:


Anesthesiology

Massachusetts Gen Hosp-NY
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY (2)
U Texas Med Sch-Houston-TX
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway-NJ (2)

Child Neurology
U Cincinnati-OH

Emergency Medicine
Brigham & Womens Hosp-MA
U North Carolina Hospitals-NC
Denver Health Med Ctr-CO
Palmetto Health Richland-SC
Lincoln Medical Ctr-NY
Maimonides Med Ctr-NY
Sparrow Hosp-MI
Darnell Army Med Ctr-Ft. Hood-TX
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Camden (4)

Family Medicine
UC San Francisco-CA
Swedish Med Center-WA
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY
Thomas Jefferson Univ Med Ctr-PA
Hunterdon Medical Ctr-NJ (3)
Somerset Medical Ctr-NJ
Ventura Cnty Med Ctr-CA
Glendale Adventist Med Ctr-CA
St Vincents Med Ctr-FL


General Surgery

NYU School of Medicine
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics-WI
Christiana Care-DE
Eastern VA Med School-VA
Lahey Clinic-MA
St Barnabas Med Ctr-NJ
Morristown Mem Hosp-NJ
Abington Mem Hosp-PA
Westchester Med Ctr-NY

Internal Medicine
Duke Univ Med Ctr-NC
Johns Hopkins Hosp-MD
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY
Hosp of the Univ of PA
Brown U Int Med Res-RI (2)
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor-MI (2)
B I Deaconess Med Ctr-MA
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL
University of Virginia-VA
UC San Diego Med Ctr-CA
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY (2)
Einstein/Montefiore Med Ctr-NY
U Kansas SOM-Kansas City-KS
Temple Univ Hosp-PA (2)
U Maryland Med Ctr-MD (3)
Lahey Clinic-MA
Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA
Santa Clara Valley-MC-CA
North Shore University Hosp-NY
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway (6)

Medicine-Primary
Brigham and Women’s Hosp-MA (2)
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT

Neurology
NYU School of Medicine-NY
Georgetown Univ Hosp-DC
Cleveland Clinic Fdn-OH
Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA

Neurosurgery
Temple Univ Hosp-PA

Obstetrics-Gynecology
Johns Hopkins Hosp-MD
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NYU
U Massachusetts Med School-MA
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Camden-NJ (2)
Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA

Ophthalmology

Georgetown U/Wash Hosp-DC (2)
Northwestern U-IL
Mount Sinai SOM-NY
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-NJ

Orthopaedic Surgery

NYU Med Ctr/Hosp Joint Diseases
U Colorado SOM-Denver
Drexel (MCP Hahnemann)U COM-PA
Monmouth Medical Ctr-NJ

Otolaryngology

Ohio State Univ Med Ctr-OH
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark

Pathology
University of Virginia

Pediatrics

Stanford Univ Progs-CA
Childrens Hospital-Phila-PA (2)
Duke Univ Med Ctr-NC
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT (3)
U Wash Affil Hosp-WA
U Utah Affil Hospitals-UT
Einstein/Jacobi Med Ctr-NY (3)
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL
INOVA Fairfax Hospital-VA
St Christophers Hosp-PA
TJU/duPont Childrens-PA
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway-NJ
Newark Beth Israel Med Ctr-NJ
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway-NJ

Physical Medicine-Rehab
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY
Temple Univ Hosp-PA

Psychiatry
Brown Univ Psych Res-RI
Long Island Jewish Med Ctr-NY
U Massachusetts Med School-MA
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway-NJ

Radiology-Diagnostic
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY
Einstein/Jacobi Med Ctr-NY
Rhode Island Hosp/Brown U
Georgetown Univ Hosp-DC
Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
U Maryland Med Ctr-MD
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway-NJ (5)

Transitional
Naval Med Ctr-Portsmouth-VA

Urology
NYP Hosp-Cornell Med Ctr-NY
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway-NJ
 
Dartmouth Match 2007

Small class, most popular:
Internal Medicine (26.0%)
Peds (16.7%)
Diagnostic Radiology (9.3%)
Orthopedic Surgery (9.3%)

Anesthesiology
UT Houston

Dermatology
Dartmouth
Oregon (NYU prelim)

Emergency Medicine
UMass
Albany

Family Practice
Dartmouth (2)
UVM

Internal Medicine
Dartmouth (5)
UCSF (2)
Wash U
U Wash
Columbia
Brown
NYU
UC Davis
Walter Reed
UConn

General Surgery
Yale
Thomas Jefferson

Neurosurgery
Oregon

Orthopaedic Surgery
Dartmouth (2)
NYU
Brown
Oregon

Vascular Surgery
Pitt

Pathology
Stanford

Pediatrics
Dartmouth (2)
UVA (2)
Duke
UVM
UMDNJ
Navy – Portsmouth

Pediatrics/Anesthesiology
Penn

Pediatric Neurology
Harvard

Radiology
Duke (Harvard prelim)
Stanford (UCSF prelim)
UVA
UConn (BU prelim)
UT San Antonio

Urology
Rochester
 
Anesthsiology (12)

Dermatology (2)

Emergency Medicine (10)

Family Med (8)

General Surg (11)

Internal Med/Women's Health (1)

Internal Medicine (28)

Medicine-Dermatology (1)

Med-Peds (6)

Neurology (4)

Neurosurgery (3)

Ob-gyn (13)

Ophthalmology (11)

Orthopaedic Surgery (13)

ENT (5)

Path (2)

Peds (13)

PM & R (2)

Plastic Surgery (1)

Psychiatry (3)

Rad-Onc (2)

Radiology (10)

Urology (3)

😀
 
So quick question--
so I saw (on aamc website) that 1,000 med school seniors did not match, does that mean they have to try again next year? Are they basically screwed? I heard that after med school everyone basically matches, did i hear wrong?
Thanks😉

According to the local news media and the AAMC, this year 14,201 US med students matched out of 15,206. (Total potential residency spots available - 21,845, total match participants seeking spots 27,944). That's 93.4% of US med students matching, which is not substantially different from the 93.7% that matched last year. Folks who don't match have to "scramble", which largely means they and their administration get on the phone and try to place them into unfilled spots. They aren't per se screwed, but may not get a desirable specialty or location - they are fighting for leftovers. http://www.aamc.org/newsroom/pressrel/2007/070315.htm
 
I think Emory's Match list is quite impressive this year!

Internal Medicine (25)
- Harvard: MGH - 1, BWH - 1, BI Deaconess - 1, Cambridge - 2
- Johns Hopkins 3
- UCSF 1
- Emory 9
- Baylor 1
- Duke 1
- UT Southwestern 1
- Wash U 1
- U Penn 1
- Greenville 1
- UC Davis 1

General Surgery (11)
- SUNY Health Sciences Center 1
- Stanford U 1
- Johns Hopkins 1
- Vanderbilt U 2
- Dartmouth 1
- Emory 2
- MGH 1
- Mount Sinai 1
- University of Washington 1

Plastic Surgery
- UT Southwestern - 1

Urology (3)
- Emory 2
-Lahey Clinic 1

Orthopaedic Surgery (6)
- University of Mississippi 1
- Yale 1
- NYU Hosp of Joint Diseases 1
- Boston University 1
- Brown U 1
- UT SW 1

ENT (3)
-UAB 1
-UNC 1
-University of Washington

Med/ Peds (2)
-University of Southern California 1
-Yale 1

OBGYN (2)
-BWH 1
-Baylor 1

Radiology (6)
- Emory 2
- Washington U 1
- BWH 1
- University of Colorado 1
- UCSF 1

Rad Onc
- Emory 1

Anesthesiology (12)
- University of Chicago 1
- Emory 4
- Boston 1
- Mayo Jacksonville 1
- NY Presbyterian/ Columbia 1
- Vanderbilt 1
- UT Knoxville 1
- Oschner Clinic Foundation (NO) 1
- U of Michigan 1

Dermatology
- Northwestern 1

Neurology
- Emory 1
- UCSF 1
- MGH 1

Psychiatry
- UCSF 1
- Emory 1

ER
- Emory 2
- Brown 1
- U Conn 1

Pathology
- Emory 1
- UNC 1
- ETSU 1
- University of Iowa 1

Pediatrics
- NEOUCOM (Akron, Ohio) 1
- Boston Children's 2
- CHOP 1
- UTSW 1
- MUSC 1
- UF Jacksonville 1
- Emory 2

Family
- McLennan County FP Waco, TX
- Greater Lawrence Fam Hlth CT Lawrence, MA

Others are military ppl
 
Here is Yale's list - impressive!!!! 👍

CATEGORICAL MATCH


INTERNAL MEDICINE – 18
Harvard-MGH
Harvard-MGH
Harvard-MGH
Harvard-Brigham&Women's
Harvard-Brigham&Women's
Harvard-BIDMC
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
Yale
Yale
Penn
NYP-Columbia
Mayo Clinic
UCLA
Albert Einstein

DERMATOLOGY – 8
Yale
Yale
Harvard-MGH
Stanford
Brown
Boston University
U of Minnesota
UMDNJ-RWJ

OPHTHALMOLOGY – 8
Harvard-Mass EEI
Harvard-Mass EEI
New York EEI
NYU
NYU
Boston University
Brown
USC

PEDIATRICS – 7
Harvard-Children's Hospital
Harvard-Children's Hospital (Pediatric Neurology)
Penn-Childrens Hospital of Philadelphia
Penn-Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
Yale
U of Washington
U of Minnesota (Med-Peds)

ANESTHESIOLOGY – 6
Harvard-Brigham&Women's
Harvard-Brigham&Women's
Johns Hopkins
Johns Hopkins
NYP-Cornell
Cleveland Clinic

RADIOLOGY – 4
U of Michigan
UCLA
UCLA
U of Mississipi

EMERGENCY MEDICINE – 4
Harvard-Brigham&Women's
NYP-Cornell
NYU
U of Pittsburgh

NEUROLOGY – 3
NYP-Columbia
NYP-Columbia
Yale

NEUROSURGERY – 3
Harvard-MGH
Stanford
U of Colorado

OB/GYN – 3
NYP-Columbia
Brown
U of Pittsburgh

PLASTIC SURGERY – 3
Stanford
Yale
U of Washington

PSYCHIATRY – 3
Harvard-MGH
Yale
NYP-Cornell

FAMILY MEDICINE – 2
Contra Consta Regional MC – CA
Ventura County MC- CA

GENERAL SURGERY – 2
Harvard-BIDMC
NYU

ORTHOPAEDIC SURGERY – 2
Penn
Yale

RADIATION ONCOLOGY – 2
UCSF
Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center

UROLOGY – 2
NYP-Columbia
Yale

OTOLARYNGOLOGY – 1
NYP-Columbia

PATHOLOGY – 1
Harvard-MGH

PHYSICAL MEDICINE & REHABILITATION – 1
U of Cincinnati


NON-TRADITIONAL - 5
Investment Banking
Consulting
International Health Policy
PhD in Middle Eastern & Islamic Studies (Harvard)
Residency in Norway


MOST POPULAR UNIVERSITIES FOR RESIDENCY (top 10):
Harvard – 18
Yale - 10
Columbia – 7
UCSF – 6
Penn – 4
NYU – 4
Stanford – 3
UCLA – 3
Brown – 3
Johns Hopkins – 2




PRELIMINARY (one-year) MATCH


MEDICINE PRELIMINARY – 21
Yale – 8
Hospital of St. Raphael – 3
Greenwich Hospital – 1
Harvard-Brigham & Women's – 2
Harvard-BIDMC – 2
Harvard-MGH – 1
NYU – 1
Beth Israel (NY) – 1
Cedars Sinai MC (CA) – 1
Medical College of Georgia – 1

TRANSITIONAL YEAR – 9
Memorial Sloan Ketering Cancer Center – 2
UCLA – 1
Northwestern/McGaw – 1
Albert Einstein (PA) – 1
Hospital of St. Raphael – 1
Lehigh Valley (PA) – 1
St. Vincent's MC (CT) – 1
Santa Clara Valley MC (CA) – 1

SURGERY PRELIMINARY – 9
Harvard-MGH – 1
Yale – 1
NYP-Columbia – 1
U of Colorado – 1
do people still doubt that your school's name helps in the match?
 
do people still doubt that your school's name helps in the match?

well aside from the top top schools (i.e. yale, duke, etc.) the match lists don't really look all that different to me...those seem to reflect differences in the individual more
 
Figured I would post WVU's match list. Seems to be the thing to do.

Anesthesiology 9
-WVU School of Medicine Morgantown, WV
-St Lukes-Roosevelt New York City, NY
-U Tennessee Knoxville TN
-Cleveland Clinic Foundation Cleveland OH
-Emory Univ Atlanta GA
-Univ North Carolina Hospitals Chapel Hill NC
-Case Western Reserve Univ Cleveland OH
-SUNY Brooklyn Brooklyn NY

Emergency Medicine 5
-WVU School of Medicine Morgantown WV
-Mayo School of Grad Med Educ Rochester MN
-Jefferson Medical College Philadelphia PA

Family Medicine 18
-United Hospital Center Clarksburg WV
-Hillcrest Medical Center Tulsa OK
-WVU School of Medicine Morgantown WV
-Univ of Virginia Charlottsville VA
-U South Florida Tampa FL
-Trident Medical Center Charleston SC
-U Colorado SOM Denver CO
-Marshall Univ SOM Huntington WV
-Case Western Reserve Hosp Cleveland OH
-Chestnut Hill Hospital Philadelphia PA
-Floyd Medical Center Rome GA
-Naval Hospital Jacksonville FL

Internal Medicine 18
-UC Irvine Irvine CA
-U Cincinnati Cincinnati OH
-Allegheny General Hospital Pittsburgh PA
-WVU School of Medicine Morgantown WV
-U Kansas SOM Kansas City KS
-U Kentucky Lexington KY
-Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center Winston-Salem NC
-Kettering Medical Center Kettering OH
-Cleveland Clnic Foundation Cleveland OH
-Virginia Commonwealth Univ Richmond VA
-Pitt County Memorial Hosp/ Brody SOM Greenville NC
-Charleston Area Med Center - WVU Charleston WV
-Wright Patterson Medical Center Dayton OH
-Marshall Univ SOM Huntington WV
-Mayo Clinic Foundation Scottsdale AZ

Medicine-Pediatrics 4
-WVU School of Medicine Morgantown WV
-Univ of Missouri - Kansas City Kansas City MO

Medicine-Neurology 1
-WVU School of Medicine Morgantown WV

Neurology 1
-Georgetown Univ Hospitals Washington DC

Neurosurgery 2
-Wake Forest SOM Winston-Salem NC
-West Virginia University SOM Morgantown WV

Obstetrics & Gynecology 5
-WVU School of Medicine Morgantown WV
-Jefferson Medical College Philadelphia PA
-New Hanover Regional Med Center Wilmington NC
-Univ Virginia SOM Charlottsville VA

Orthopaedic Surgery 2
-WVU School of Medicine Morgantown WV

Ophthalmology 2
-University of Cincinnati Cincinnati OH
-West Virginia University SOM Morgantown WV

Pathology 3
-U Florida Shands Hospital Gainsville FL
-U Kentucky Lexington KY
-WVU School of Medicine Morgantown WV

Pediatrics 16
-WVU School of Medicine Morgantown WV
-Eastern Virginia Medical School Norfolk VA
-Medical University SC Charleston SC
-U Florida-Jacksonville Jacksonville FL
-U Connecticut Hartford CT
-Marshall Univ SOM Huntington WV
-INOVA Fairfax Hospital Fairfax VA
-Emory University Atlanta GA
-UMPC - Children's Hospital Pittsburgh PA
-Charleston Area Medical Ctr - WVU Charleston WV
-Univ Southern California Los Angelos CA
-Carolinas Medical Center Charlotte NC
-Mayo School of Grad Medical Educ Rochester MN
-Georgetown Univ Hospitals Washington DC
-Ohio State Univ - Childrens Hosp Columbus OH

Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation 1
-U Louisville SOM Louisville KY

Plastic Surgery 1
-Wright State Univ Dayton OH

Psychiatry 4
-U North Carolina Hospitals Chapel Hill NC
-Wright State University Dayton OH
-Mt Sinai Hospital New York City NY
-Dartmouth-Hitchcock Med Center Lebanon NH

Radiation Oncology 2
-U Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center Houston TX
-Hosp of the Univ of Pennsylvania Philadelphia PA

Radiology 7
-Univ of Virginia Charlottsville VA
-WVU School of Medicine Morgantown WV
-William Beaumont Hospital Royal Oak MI
-Virginia Commonwealth Univ Richmond VA
-SUNY Upstate Syracuse NY

Surgery 9
-University of Pittsburgh Med Center Pittsburgh PA
-WVU School of Medicine Morgantown WV
-Univ Southern California Los Angeles CA
-Charleston Area Med Center - WVU Charleston WV
-U Tennessee College of Med Chattanooga TN
-Naval Medical Center Portsmouth VA
-Spartansburg Reg Healthcare Spartansburg SC

Transitional Year 8
-WVU School of Medicine Morgantown WV
-Mercy Hospital Pittsburgh PA
-U Tennessee Knoxville TN
-Lackland AFB San Antonio TX

Urology 1
-University of Pittsburgh Med Center Pittsburgh PA
 
do people still doubt that your school's name helps in the match?

It's still the same correlation does not equal causation debate, specifically, the third variable problem: rather than a great school causing someone to land a great residency, it could be a third variable, academic ability, that underlies both.
 
It's still the same correlation does not equal causation debate, specifically, the third variable problem: rather than a great school causing someone to land a great residency, it could be a third variable, academic ability, that underlies both.
you are correct i am sure. it's just going to a
"better" named school lets you not have to be at the top of your class to match at the competitive places. I think this should be stressed more because most people when they begin med school think they will be able to be near the top and then reality sets in.
 
you are correct i am sure. it's just going to a
"better" named school lets you not have to be at the top of your class to match at the competitive places. I think this should be stressed more because most people when they begin med school think they will be able to be near the top and then reality sets in.

Except that things like higher step 1 scores tend to trump brand name school, so it's not like the folks at the bottom of the good school class ranks get to coast - they are still fighting for spots. They just start with a little more in their arsenal. Some of the top schools put more people into primary care than many of the lower ranked ones. (and a lot of the folks at top schools were good test takers to begin with, so the school may have had no impact).
 
UCLA match list

Plastics 1
Harvard

Dermatology 11
2 ucla
ucsf
stanford
ucsd
wash u
mayo
oregon
UT houston
rush
St. lukes

Rad Onc 2
stanford
ucla

Ortho
3
Harvard
baylor
usc

Ent 1
columbia

Neuro surg 1
north western

Optho 6
2 ucla
columbia
univ of washington
univ chicago
miami

Uro 5
Harvard
nyu
ucla
wayne state
kaiser

Rads 6
wash u
stanford
BU
usc
harbor ucla
maine

EM 9
2 harbor ucla
2 usc
hopkins
ucla
univ chicago
ucsd
lincoln

Anesth 14
3 ucla
3 usc
2 loma linda
uc davis
Harvard
ucsf
stanford
duke
univ washington

G surg 12
3 ucla
harbor ucla
stanford
hopkins
BU
kaiser
univ washington
utah
temple
St. marys

OB/GYN 11
2 ucla
harbor ucla
Harvard
hopkins
u penn
stanford
santa clara
uc davis
St. barbaras
kaiser

IM 26
3 ucla
4 ucsf
2 cedars
2 olive view ucla
2 stanford
2 white memor
2 kaiser
2 davies
2 nyu
2 scripps
tulane
uci
hopkins

Med Peds 3
ucla
u michigan
banner AZ

Peds 15
5 ucla
2 uci
2 kaiser
ucsf
harbor ucla
oakland
uc davis
loma linda
upmc

Family 13
4 ucla
5 kaiser
white memor
swedish
o connor
something I can't read my own hand writing

Path 3
Harvard
harbor ucla
usc

PM&R 3
2 los angeles va
univ washington

Psych 10
2 stanford
2 ucsd
ucla
harvard
u michigan
cedars
harbor ucla

Neurology 3
2 ucla
hopkins

I might of missed some but you get the gist.
 
PSA: Please do not quote the whole list when you have something to say. It makes reading the thread very difficult. You can cut out all but the first few lines and people will know what you're responding to. (Plus there's a link to the original post--that little arrow.)
 
UCLA match list

Dermatology 11
2 ucla
ucsf
stanford
ucsd
wash u
mayo
oregon
UT houston
rush
St. lukes

😱 😱 😱
eleven is amazing, and those programs are no joke either.
 
posted this in my class thread, too. Here's University of Oklahoma.

Family Medicine (11)
Kaiser Permanente – Woodland Hills, Woodland Hills, CA
Great Plains Medical Foundation, Oklahoma City, OK (2)
University of Texas Health Center, Tyler, TX
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK (3)
University of Kansas/Wesley, Wichita, KS
University of Kansas/Via Christi, Wichita, KS
Darnall Army Medical Center, Ft. Hood, TX
University of Oklahoma, Tulsa, OK

Internal Medicine (22)
University of Kansas, Kansas City, KS
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK (11)
George Washington University, Washington, DC
Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education, Rochester, MN (2)
University of Hawaii, Honolulu, HI
St. Mary Medical Center, Long Beach, CA
Rush University Medical Center, Chicago, IL
University of Texas - Houston, Houston, TX
Baylor University Medical Center, Dallas, TX
Madigan Army Medical Center, Tacoma, WA
Hershey Medical Center/Penn State, Hershey, PA

Pediatrics (17)
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK (7)
University of Utah Affiliated Hospitals, Salt Lake City, UT
University of Oklahoma, Tulsa, OK (2)
University of Texas Health Sciences Center, San Antonio, TX
SAUSHEC – Brooke Army Medical Center, Ft. Sam Houston, TX (2)
Palmetto Health Richland, Columbia, SC
Indiana University, Indianapolis, IN
University of Arkansas, Little Rock, AR (2)

Pediatrics – Preliminary (1) – excluded people who had an advanced match
University of Oklahoma, Tulsa, OK

Anesthesiology (9)
Brook Army Medical Center, San Antonio, TX
Mercy Hospital, Pittsburgh, PA
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK (4)
University of Texas Southwestern, Dallas, TX
University of Colorado, Denver, CO
Mt. Sinai Hospital, New York, NY

Dermatology (6)
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK (3)
Duke University, Durham, NC
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI
University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA

Emergency Medicine (6)
University of Oklahoma, Tulsa, OK (2)
Maricopa Medical Center, Phoenix, AZ
Resurrection Medical Center, Chicago, IL
New York Hospital Medical Center/Queens, Flushing, NY
Pitt County Memorial Hospital/Brody School of Medicine, Greenville, NC

General Surgery (13)
University of Oklahoma, Tulsa, OK (3)
Rush University Medical Center, Chicago, IL
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK (3)
Pitt County Memorial Hospital/Brody School of Medicine, Greenville, NC
Methodist Health System, Dallas, TX
Michigan State University, East Lansing, MI
UC Davis Medical Center, Sacramento, CA
Louisiana State University, Shreveport, LA
Fairview Hospital, Cleveland, OH

General Surgery – Preliminary – not including people with advanced positions (5)
Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, TX
Spartanburg Regional Healthcare, Spartanburg, SC
University of Oklahoma, Tulsa, OK (2)
UCLA Medical Center, Los Angeles, CA

Medicine/Pediatrics (2)
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK (2)

Medicine/Pediatrics – Preliminary – not including people with advanced positions (1)
University of Oklahoma, Tulsa, OK

Medicine – Preliminary – not including people with advanced positions (5)
University of Oklahoma, Tulsa, OK (4)
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK

Neurology (1)
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK

Neurosurgery (1)
University of Florida Shands Hospital, Gainesville, FL

Obstetrics/Gynecology (3)
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK (2)
University of Oklahoma, Tulsa, OK

Ophthalmology (5)
University of Rochester/Strong Memorial Hospital, Rochester, NY
University of Colorado, Denver, CO
Medical University of South Carolina, Charleston, SC
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK
University of Missouri - Kansas City Programs, Kansas City, MO

Orthopaedic Surgery (6)
John Peter Smith Hospital, Fort Worth, TX
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK (3)
SUNY Upstate, Syracuse, NY
Ochsner Clinic Foundation, New Orleans, LA

Otorhinolaryngology (2)
University of Texas Southwestern, Dallas, TX
University of Arkansas, Little Rock, AR

Pathology (3)
Baylor University Medical Center, Dallas, TX
University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY
UCLA, Los Angeles, CA

Psychiatry (5)
University of Oklahoma, Tulsa, OK (2)
University of Kansas, Wichita, KS
Barnes-Jewish Hospital, St. Louis, MO
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK

Psychiatry/Family Medicine (1)
University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA

Radiation Oncology (1)
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK

Radiology – Diagnostic (6)
Integris Baptist Medical Center, Oklahoma City, OK (2)
Texas A&M/Scott & White, Temple, TX
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK
Baylor University Medical Center, Dallas, TX
Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, TX

Transitional – excluding people with advanced matches (1)
SAUSCHEC – Wilford Hall Medical Center, Lackland AFB, TX

Urology (5)
Akron General Medicine/NEOUCOM, Akron, OH
University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma City, OK
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, Dallas, TX
University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM
Vanderbilt University, Nashville, TN

Research (1)
 
do people still doubt that your school's name helps in the match?
Theres never been a doubt that going to Yale or Johns Hopkins or a small number of similar schools is going to be a big boost to any residency application.For the great majority of US med students >80%
the reputation of their school is secondary to many other variables come match day.The match lists for most US schools are simply not that different in quality or competitive specialties represented.... So if you have a chance to go to a top name by all means take it.Otherwise it wont matter much.
 
So, I have been told the following on a number of occasions:

(1) Med school name/prestige, if it does play a role, plays a very small role in the match - Step 1 is supposedly the great equalizer.

(2) Pritzker's students have a reputation for not performing well on Step 1.

Unless, this year's students totally rocked the Step 1, how do you reconcile these two statements with the results of the 2007 match for Pritzker? Does med school name/prestige play a bigger role than we think?

I have stated this "discrepancy" in the so-called paradigm at least 10 times. Nobody from the "Reputation is negligible/Step 1 is everything" ever comments.

Exactly. Their silence is the underlying point. Reputation matters much more than the current paradigm pushers suggest.
 
Here's a tidbit to you match list over-analyzers in pre-allo...

My "unranked" school had twice as many derm and urology matches as Hopkins as well as more orthopods and gas.

In other words, these lists are meaningless.

Can we see the list?

And also you are playing with flawless logic. Its not the number of matches that count (for that depends on what the given student body is attempting to match into)... what matters more is the QUALITY of the matches. Something tells me if 15 students from Harvard were were gung-ho about matching into derm that they could probably do it (where that would be a less likely feat at a less "reputable" school).
 
Can we see the list?

And also you are playing with flawless logic. Its not the number of matches that count (for that depends on what the given student body is attempting to match into)... what matters more is the QUALITY of the matches.

what is QAULITY?
 
what is QAULITY?

The reputation of the residency program.

Saying that a school had 15 students match into Derm is one thing... but did these students get into their first choice, into one of their top three choices?, what is the reputation of the Derm program that they matched into? etc.
 
what is QAULITY?

Quality is determined by WHERE YOU WANT TO GO not necessarily by the program itself. 50% of my classmates, myself included, are from California. The majority wanted to end up in California instead at the most coveted programs in their respective fields. A good proportion of the people I talked to got their #1 or #2 on match day, myself included. That to me, regardless of where their program is, is a strong list and the type of list I'd want year in and year out.

FYI...we had NO derm matches this year. Why? Because no one in our class applied for Derm. Does that mean our list is weak? There are plenty of people in our class that are very competitive for positions such as this...but ultimately decided on something less competitive.
 
I have stated this "discrepancy" in the so-called paradigm at least 10 times. Nobody from the "Reputation is negligible/Step 1 is everything" ever comments.

Exactly. Their silence is the underlying point. Reputation matters much more than the current paradigm pushers suggest.


I think the argument from the 'Step1 matters more' faction is that students at top 10 schools would rock the Step 1 exam regardless of what school they attend, given the fact that they must have done well on the MCAT to get into said school. So the fact that JHU gets great matches may be less of an indication of JHU reputation as the simple fact that they have a class full of brilliant test takers who are going to stack up well against the rest of the country in the match.

I'm not really taking sides but I do believe that someone who is talented will get a good match regardless of what school they attend and someone who is mediocre will get a mediocre match regardless of what school they attend. For those who fall somewhere in between, I'd agree that a top 10 school would help--but then again, these people would probably have a tougher time getting into a top 10 school to begin with.
 
Can we see the list?

And also you are playing with flawless logic. Its not the number of matches that count (for that depends on what the given student body is attempting to match into)... what matters more is the QUALITY of the matches. Something tells me if 15 students from Harvard were were gung-ho about matching into derm that they could probably do it (where that would be a less likely feat at a less "reputable" school).

I don't know if Critical Mass will share his list, but I've posted the list for my unranked run of the mill state school. Feel free to criticize it all you wish.

Speaking of which, it'd be nice to see more people from non-top schools share their lists, too. It looks like the representation here is skewed towards higher ranking schools.
 
I think the arguement from the 'Step1 matters more' faction is that students at top 10 schools would rock the Step 1 exam regardless of what school they attend, given the fact that they must have done well on the MCAT to get into said school. So the fact that JHU gets great matches may be less of an indication of JHU reputation as the simple fact that they a class full of brilliant test takers who are going to stack up well against the rest of the country in the match.

I'm not really taking sides but I do believe that someone who is talented will get a good match regardless of what school they attend and someone who is mediocre will get a mediocre match regardless of what school they attend. For those who fall somewhere in between, I'd agree that a top 10 school would help--but then again, that person would probably have a tougher time getting into a top 10 school to begin with.

Well what about schools such as Pritzker? They right out tell you that they have a weaker Step 1 average compared to all the top schools. Why do they match well?

I understand the argument that better test takers probably tend to go to higher-ranked schools simply by looking at average MCAT and gpa for matriculants at higher-ranked schools. But this argument faces a severe blow when you bring up examples such as Prtizker. Also, not everyone at Hopkins dominates the USMLE. Why do they match well?

Im tired of arguing this so I will stop now.

BTW, I agree completely with this:
"someone who is talented will get a good match regardless of what school they attend"
 
I'd like to counter that looking at match lists is not meaningless. It is ALMOST meaningless, but not quite meaningless. I have noticed that people seem to match into good fields from all schools. One thing that REALLY differs between schools is WHERE people match....in all fields.... not just the super competitive ones. So in a rough sense you can compare match lists. But keep in mind that it is a VERY rough appraisal of a school.
The location can be a total toss-up though - people who like to stay in one region (half of my private school comes from one state - the one we're in) compared to people who don't care if they move around. The way I see it, unless you're headed right for academic medicine, your residency prestige isn't that important. Go to a good school so it might help you get a good residency, but then what? I don't want to anywhere more than a few hours away from where I am right now, and you can just forget the east coast.
 
The location can be a total toss-up though - people who like to stay in one region (half of my private school comes from one state - the one we're in) compared to people who don't care if they move around. The way I see it, unless you're headed right for academic medicine, your residency prestige isn't that important. Go to a good school so it might help you get a good residency, but then what? I don't want to anywhere more than a few hours away from where I am right now, and you can just forget the east coast.

Exactly. A lot of people from my school stay at the school for residency, which might mean they can't match anywhere else or it might mean they want to stay in Oklahoma. Lots of people buy houses, have spouses who get good jobs, have kids in good schools, have family living nearby, etc., which makes them want to stay put.

I agree, too, that reputation of your residency isn't probably as huge of a deal as it's made out to be on SDN. If you get a derm residency anywhere, you get to be a dermatologist, and you get all the great aspects of the dermatology lifestyle. For me, I know location is going to be one of my major deciding factors and will play a greater role than reputation.
 
The location can be a total toss-up though - people who like to stay in one region (half of my private school comes from one state - the one we're in) compared to people who don't care if they move around. The way I see it, unless you're headed right for academic medicine, your residency prestige isn't that important. Go to a good school so it might help you get a good residency, but then what? I don't want to anywhere more than a few hours away from where I am right now, and you can just forget the east coast.

Yeah, I agree. But you can still average out all the personal preferences when looking at a match list. It stands to reason that people at all schools have widely different preferences. You can also look at the quality of programs within a specific region. It's still a very rough measure, but it can be somewhat useful.
 
Well what about schools such as Pritzker? They right out tell you that they have a weaker Step 1 average compared to all the top schools. Why do they match well?
Would you please post a "bad" match list? I'd like to compare. Preferably from a school that is higher ranked than Pritzker.
 
Yeah, I agree. But you can still average out all the personal preferences when looking at a match list. It stands to reason that people at all schools have widely different preferences. You can also look at the quality of programs within a specific region. It's still a very rough measure, but it can be somewhat useful.

I'm channeling Law2Doc here, but does anyone in pre-allo have the capability of judging programs based on quality. Sure, we all know Harvard sounds great, but that's about it. Actually knowing the quality of residency programs in multiple different fields would be quite a feat for anyone.
 
I'm channeling Law2Doc here, but does anyone in pre-allo have the capability of judging programs based on quality. Sure, we all know Harvard sounds great, but that's about it. Actually knowing the quality of residency programs in multiple different fields would be quite a feat for anyone.


Good point-- for instance, I didn't know until recently that Cincinatti had one of the top emergency medicine programs in the country. There wasn't a Harvard in the name so I guess I didn't know 🙄 .

By the way, does anyone have the lowly Tufts match list?
 
Regionalism makes a difference in the lists, both because a lot of people tend to want to stay in one place, and because programs tend to select local people to interview (with some excellent out of area applicants as well). Also, don't forget that just because a program has a "big name" doesn't mean it is a desirable location to train in every specialty. Sometimes the top program is one you never heard of until you started looking into that field. Look at the match lists if you must, but don't let that be what you base your decision on.
 
Actually knowing the quality of residency programs in multiple different fields would be quite a feat for anyone.
Pffft, any pre-allo idiot knows that the residency programs strictly correlate with US News rankings of med schools.

:idea:

or not. CHW is the 3rd best children's hospital in the country, but I bet almost nobody here knows that.
 
Well what about schools such as Pritzker? They right out tell you that they have a weaker Step 1 average compared to all the top schools. Why do they match well?

I understand the argument that better test takers probably tend to go to higher-ranked schools simply by looking at average MCAT and gpa for matriculants at higher-ranked schools. But this argument faces a severe blow when you bring up examples such as Prtizker. Also, not everyone at Hopkins dominates the USMLE. Why do they match well?

Im tired of arguing this so I will stop now.

BTW, I agree completely with this:
"someone who is talented will get a good match regardless of what school they attend"


Yeah I'd agree that Pritzker's reputation probably helps out their students. I would bet that a 35/3.7 kind of student would probably benefit from a school like pritzker over their state school. But I also would bet that the 42/4.0 type of student is probably going to match better than the above student regardless of which school they attend.
 
I'm channeling Law2Doc here, but does anyone in pre-allo have the capability of judging programs based on quality. Sure, we all know Harvard sounds great, but that's about it. Actually knowing the quality of residency programs in multiple different fields would be quite a feat for anyone.

First of all, not everyone in pre-allo is actually pre-allo. I'm a med student just as much as L2D or anyone else. Secondly, there really IS roughly a correspondence between "name value" and good residency spots. Everyone on these forums likes to cite specific examples of exceptions to things. If you read a match list the way I do [especially since I don't know what I want to do, so I'm not even looking at specific fields], you can make a very rough guestimate of a school's strength in the match. The basic assumption in all of this is that you average out all of those exceptions and all of the personal preferences that go into applying and ranking programs. Do folks put WAY too much emphasis on match lists? Absolutely. Do some people blatantly deny the truth and say that a match list tells you absolutely nothing? Absolutely.
 
Yeah I'd agree that Pritzker's reputation probably helps out their students. I would bet that a 35/3.7 kind of student would probably benefit from a school like pritzker over their state school. But I also would bet that the 42/4.0 type of student is probably going to match better than the above student regardless of which school they attend.
These students aren't nearly that common. Even the top schools have an average MCAT of a 35 (except Wash U which I believe is about a 37), with the majority getting b/w a 33 and a 37. If you get a 40, you'll be able to do whatever you want with wherever you go to med school, provided you work hard. But I agree with spatulas, the avg USLME of the top schools are very comparable to other schools, so I think school name does help. Not above other variables, but I think there's more pressure to be near the top of your class if you go to an unranked school than if you go to a high ranked school.
 
Having just gone threw the residency applications and the match.

IMHO I don't think med school rankings matter much once you are outside the top 5 or so schools.
 
Would someone be kind enough to look at the '06 match list and let me know what they think. My husband accepted a job offer in Chicago so I am almost definitely going to RFU, unless I get off of the UIC alternate list.

http://66.99.255.20/admissions/cms/MatchResults.cfm

Thanks 🙂
 
These students aren't nearly that common. Even the top schools have an average MCAT of a 35 (except Wash U which I believe is about a 37), with the majority getting b/w a 33 and a 37. If you get a 40, you'll be able to do whatever you want with wherever you go to med school, provided you work hard. But I agree with spatulas, the avg USLME of the top schools are very comparable to other schools, so I think school name does help. Not above other variables, but I think there's more pressure to be near the top of your class if you go to an unranked school than if you go to a high ranked school.

Agree except I'd add that it is also going to be much easier to be near the top of your class at an unranked school than at a highly ranked school because the quality of the competition in the class isn't nearly as high at the unranked school. As you pointed out, a 35 MCAT indicates about an average type of student at a top 10 school but the same person would be one of the better students at state u.
 
Would someone be kind enough to look at the '06 match list and let me know what they think. My husband accepted a job offer in Chicago so I am almost definitely going to RFU, unless I get off of the UIC alternate list.

http://66.99.255.20/admissions/cms/MatchResults.cfm

Thanks 🙂

The match lists are generally pretty strong. You have to keep in mind that many of the students, usally 50% are displaced Californians who want nothing more than to return. That's why you see many Cali programs on the list. This year's match list has not been "officially" released yet. I believe it will be posted at some point in the next week.

Trying to have someone "interpret" the match list for you is kind of a useless action. There is so much to take into account such as geographical preference, specialty preference, that you wouldn't really understand unless you were a part of the class itself.
 
The match lists are generally pretty strong. You have to keep in mind that many of the students, usally 50% are displaced Californians who want nothing more than to return. That's why you see many Cali programs on the list. This year's match list has not been "officially" released yet. I believe it will be posted at some point in the next week.

I was hoping a current RFU student might reply. I'm sort of a displaced New Yorker so I might end up back in the NYC after med school. Does everyone usually match out of RFU or do some people end up doing that "scramble" thing?

In an ideal world I would like to place into a good Internal Medicine program in NYC or Chicago but we'll see how things go.
 
I was hoping a current RFU student might reply. I'm sort of a displaced New Yorker so I might end up back in the NYC after med school. Does everyone usually match out of RFU or do some people end up doing that "scramble" thing?

In an ideal world I would like to place into a good Internal Medicine program in NYC or Chicago but we'll see how things go.

Nice dog!
 
I was hoping a current RFU student might reply. I'm sort of a displaced New Yorker so I might end up back in the NYC after med school. Does everyone usually match out of RFU or do some people end up doing that "scramble" thing?

In an ideal world I would like to place into a good Internal Medicine program in NYC or Chicago but we'll see how things go.

It's no different than any other year. The majority 95% or so match, and a few have to scramble. Our match list this year has plenty of people matching in IM in both Chicago or NY. The majority of people I talked to got their #1 or #2 choice. I wouldn't really worry about the match list at this point in time. Focus on working hard over the next few years. Continue to work hard and put all you can into your education, and you will have many opportunities to match well.
 
Agree except I'd add that it is also going to be much easier to be near the top of your class at an unranked school than at a highly ranked school because the quality of the competition in the class isn't nearly as high at the unranked school. As you pointed out, a 35 MCAT indicates about an average type of student at a top 10 school but the same person would be one of the better students at state u.
That's true, although I think everyone in med school is intelligent and capabe. I find it funny sometimes that people come on SDN and ask "would it be better to be avg at a top school or top in your class at an unranked school?", as if it were easy anywhere to be tops in your class. There are going to be those 35+ people no matter where you go, not to mention people who are going to spend their every waking hour studying (not something I do nor want to do).
 
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