2008-2009 UCSD Secondary Application Thread

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Zor, if you're just going to put down UCSD without making any constructive comments, I think you are wasting your time. There are plenty of people who are going to eagerly pursue their spot in the waiting pool. It doesn't seem like you want to go to UCSD anyway.

Man, I hate to say this but I tend to agree with Zor. UCSD seriously is a school full of people who had "no other better option" and "wanted to stay in california." Honestly, after being waitlisted at UCLA, I settled for UCSD and I am not happy with it. I got the same impressions as he did, but what can I do.. it's either California or bust. Hopefully UCSF gets back to me with better news.
 
Another thing to consider: 5500 applicants total, so 90% of applicants receive outright rejections.

And as mentioed, about 50% the people who interview are accepted at some point.

I was simply thankful to have made that initial cut. Even after what was likely my worst interview (completely dehydrated and fatigued after some lovely food poisoning that kept me up the night prior), I made it very clear that I had an intensely strong desire to be there. And somehow things came through. Subjective good will and bit of luck, IMO, does play some role in the process.

So my firm belief--and this is my take on the process at least--is that if you interviewed, your chances of getting in are as good as anyone else's within that pool. I don't believe it is a precise science, but more of a custom-tailored approach to build a multifaceted class with balance and personality, filled with people who are really happy to be there. I'll admit this is perhaps a less efficient process than an explicit numerical ranking system, but in the end the idea is for a better class dynamic.
 
Man, I hate to say this but I tend to agree with Zor. UCSD seriously is a school full of people who had "no other better option" and "wanted to stay in california." Honestly, after being waitlisted at UCLA, I settled for UCSD and I am not happy with it. I got the same impressions as he did, but what can I do.. it's either California or bust. Hopefully UCSF gets back to me with better news.

I really hope you get in elsewhere, as I wouldn't want someone with your attitude in my class. 👎
 
Man, I hate to say this but I tend to agree with Zor. UCSD seriously is a school full of people who had "no other better option" and "wanted to stay in california." Honestly, after being waitlisted at UCLA, I settled for UCSD and I am not happy with it. I got the same impressions as he did, but what can I do.. it's either California or bust. Hopefully UCSF gets back to me with better news.

I am kinda curious as to why you are so unhappy with it. Even though UCLA waitlisted me, I cannot say that I would be significantly happier there than at UCSD. Do you have some sort of personal reason or did something at UCSD strike you wrong?
 
Man, I hate to say this but I tend to agree with Zor. UCSD seriously is a school full of people who had "no other better option" and "wanted to stay in california." Honestly, after being waitlisted at UCLA, I settled for UCSD and I am not happy with it. I got the same impressions as he did, but what can I do.. it's either California or bust. Hopefully UCSF gets back to me with better news.
Oh awesome.

If my memory serves me, you're not a student here yet.

I understand that you have a different perspective from where you are in the game (i.e. going through the application process as opposed to being a med student). I was where you were. And hey guys, a year ago, I was unhappy about UCSD too.

But now I'm actually a student here, and it turns out all those things that made me happy were either misinformation or just getting the wrong impression. And there are many, many things about UCSD that I didn't even know that I now think are fabulous; had I been better informed about UCSD in the first place, I would have been much happier about my situation. I don't just like it here; I love it. That's why I spend so much time here answering questions about the school. I should be studying for a test right now, but I'm on SDN again because this really matters to me.

That being said, if you've read all my posts and seen the 6-page email I wrote about why UCSD is a great place to be, and you STILL hate the idea of being at UCSD (you want a bigger name? you hate that we aren't PBL? you... hate that we have an extremely supportive environment?), then... okay. Sucks I guess, but I'm sure you'll cope.

So anyways, this thread has been trying my patience because I'm seeing a lot of generalized frustration that has turned into "UCSD SUXXXX". I know I'm just a measly member and not even a mod, but I personally would appreciate it if we kept this thread to constructive discussion of UCSD's pros and cons as well as a place to support each other (thanks n3opologist!). I really want to be here for you guys, but hearing how you hate UCSD makes me want to crawl into a ball because, to be perfectly frank, it's hurtful. Please take your frustration out on someone NOT affiliated with UCSD or be more constructive about it.

Okay, I've just sat here stressing about this for 15 minutes, so it's time to get back to my studies =p
 
Man, I hate to say this but I tend to agree with Zor. UCSD seriously is a school full of people who had "no other better option" and "wanted to stay in california." Honestly, after being waitlisted at UCLA, I settled for UCSD and I am not happy with it. I got the same impressions as he did, but what can I do.. it's either California or bust. Hopefully UCSF gets back to me with better news.

Anecdotally I know of several in my class who turned down places like UCLA, Harvard, and Hopkins in favor of UCSD for various reasons. These are merely examples of course, but they do exist.

The small sampling of students you meet on your interview day is just that -- a very small n from which it may be difficult to make broad generalizations about a school. Take what you see and hear from your limited window of time with a grain of salt.
 
I really hope you get in elsewhere, as I wouldn't want someone with your attitude in my class. 👎
LOL, I keep liking you more and more, n3opologist.

I'm hoping it's just the frustration talking. =p

I still have this memory of being 7 years old and being really angry... I wrote in my diary "I HATE MY MOM". Of course I didn't hate my mom. At least I didn't yell it in her face.

Then again, she probably found my diary at some point and read it. In that case, I feel absolutely horrible because my mom is, in fact, awesome.

Sorry to digress.
 
LOL, I keep liking you more and more, n3opologist.

I'm hoping it's just the frustration talking. =p

I still have this memory of being 7 years old and being really angry... I wrote in my diary "I HATE MY MOM". Of course I didn't hate my mom. At least I didn't yell it in her face.

Then again, she probably found my diary at some point and read it. In that case, I feel absolutely horrible because my mom is, in fact, awesome.

Sorry to digress.

I have two more days of preparation-free medical school and then I am finished with all requirements.

Hence, lots of time to divert elsewhere.

silverlining, I believe you have a renal exam next week? I thought that was the most challenging MC exam of all four years of medical school. No joke. Not to freak you out, but that's honestly my opinion. Please do study. The jokesters on sdn can wait.
 
So my firm belief--and this is my take on the process at least--is that if you interviewed, your chances of getting in are as good as anyone else's within that pool. I don't believe it is a precise science, but more of a custom-tailored approach to build a multifaceted class with balance and personality, filled with people who are really happy to be there. I'll admit this is perhaps a less efficient process than an explicit numerical ranking system, but in the end the idea is for a better class dynamic.

Just curious,

Do you think at this point in the process (the acceptable pool) your state residency is still a factor? I'm on the waitlist and I'm not from California. You said you think everyone's chances are as good as everyone else's. Do you think that stands even for people who aren't california residents?

I couldn't really get a clear answer from the admissions department in terms of how residency plays a role. I was the only person when I interviewed not from california (out of like 14 people) so obviously even selecting who they interview highly favors residency, but I imagine it is probably still important when taking people off the waitlist.

If they really do look at people with "similar backgrounds" to get people off the waitlist, does that mean i will only be pulled when the person who doesn't accept is not from california?
 
Just curious,

Do you think at this point in the process (the acceptable pool) your state residency is still a factor? I'm on the waitlist and I'm not from California. You said you think everyone's chances are as good as everyone else's. Do you think that stands even for people who aren't california residents?

I couldn't really get a clear answer from the admissions department in terms of how residency plays a role. I was the only person when I interviewed not from california (out of like 14 people) so obviously even selecting who they interview highly favors residency, but I imagine it is probably still important when taking people off the waitlist.

If they really do look at people with "similar backgrounds" to get people off the waitlist, does that mean i will only be pulled when the person who doesn't accept is not from california?

I am really not sure exactly what the "similar backgrounds" criteria are as I have not been on the admissions committee. I don't know if they are strict criteria, but I would hope not. With that preface, looking at the numbers from the 2007-08 first year class: 1821 out-of-state applicants, 85 of those were interviewed, 4 deferred, 11 matriculated. You beat some incredible odds to even get that interview, so my best guess is that your chances are similar now that you're in the pool.

From a personal perspective, the out-of-state residents in my class contribute significantly to a healthy diversity and I think geographic diversity ought to be even more heavily emphasized in future classes. But that's just my take. As an aside, the chairman of the surgery dept strongly believes in this as well, for whatever that's worth.
 
From a personal perspective, the out-of-state residents in my class contribute significantly to a healthy diversity and I think geographic diversity ought to be even more heavily emphasized in future classes. But that's just my take. As an aside, the chairman of the surgery dept strongly believes in this as well, for whatever that's worth.

Unfortunately I totally understand how difficult it is for a state school, especially in California, to support a large number of out of state students. California has so many people on its own trying to get in.

Hopefully I can just be one of the exceptions 🙂 (I'm already into a California school, USC, but I LOVED the san diego area and UCSD in general so my fingers are crossed)

I had a few interesting interviews at schools, though I think others were just unlucky. At my Northwestern interview i was the only person from the West Coast (including Idaho/Utah/Nevada/Arizona/New Mexico). That was out of like 20+ people. It was REALLY funny.
 
To add to the positive environment, I am very happy about being able to attend UCSD. I won't lie and say I wasn't disappointed about being waitlisted at UCLA, but that only became my top choice for personal reasons (which may or not be a factor anymore). UCSD has always seemed like a great place to be. For some reason, despite the fact that it is a top 15 school, people don't treat it like it is. Heck, UCSD is ranked higher than Emory, Vandy, Cornell, etc...all of which are schools that people value, so I don't see why UCSD has such a negative stigma.

And Drwookie...I don't know anything about the admissions process either. I do know however, that during my interview day, something like 3-4 of us were out of state, including myself. I have expressed a large interest in UCSD, which I think helped. If you are keen on the school, I would suggest writing to them with updates frequently. (I do wish they gave us information about financial packets earlier).
 
For the cycle that Dr. Chewbacca is referring to, there were 304 acceptances. That's better than a 50% acceptance rate once interviewed! There is no way UCSD plans on accepting more than 200 people pre-waitlist. It's just too risky, considering the possibility of a really high matriculation rate. So say they accept 200, which I still think is a maximum. That means that the waiting pool is around 350. Of those 350
they could potentially take 100 if previous years' data works out as a good predictor of this year. Those aren't bad odds people!

The number given out by Brian during our interview was around 50-60. 100 is completely unrealistic number. For that to happen almost 170 people have to withdraw their application from UCSD !!! Now, UCSD is not that bad of a school.

Plus, a fair amount of people will not pursue the waiting pool. So the 350 shrinks a lot.

Last year the waitlist had about 300 people in June.

Zor, if you're just going to put down UCSD without making any constructive comments, I think you are wasting your time. There are plenty of people who are going to eagerly pursue their spot in the waiting pool. It doesn't seem like you want to go to UCSD anyway.

Dude, Please dont try to lesson me on how I should make decisions that affect MY life. If my decision was based on the program strength alone, I would have already chosen other schools I am accepted to. I have my reasons to attend UCSD. Also, I did not understand the part that how a person can put down UCSD with constructive comments??
You dont need to worry about my time, I can make plenty of it for you if you need further clarification or I can come down to SD and explain it to you in person during your second look. :slap:

They do fill remaining spots with "similar applicants," but realize that similar could mean a range of things. Going through a pool of 350 applicants really isn't that tough, especially when certain applicants stand out, like those who write LOIs. This is what these people do for a living, so I wouldn't say that it's too much trouble to search through the whole pool for similar applicants to those withdrawn.

You gotta be freaking kidding me !! Going through 350 applications isn't that hard?!?! Have you ever read an application its about 20 pages and not to forget the grand 10,000 word Autobiography and all the subsequent updates to the admissions office. It will take them days to go through the pile everytime there is a open spot.

Brain had specifically mentioned during my interview, I guess it has been repeated in this thread as well, that LOI's and update letters dont help you when it comes to the waitlist. I guess you might have conveniently overlooked that part, since you are not on the waitlist.

I think UCSD's admissions office is the MOST transparent of all the California schools. Zeglen and Kelly are VERY honest. If you guys on the waitlist haven't spoken with either, get on it, and get your name know!

Well it is going to be transparent for you, you have been accepted a while ago. Why don't we switch spots and then see how much greener the grass really is on other side? I don't doubt honesty of Zeglen and Dr. Kelly but at the end of the day they are employees too. They are doing what is best for their school and department not necessarily what is best for the 100's of people who are waitlisted and have no chance in hell of ultimately getting an acceptance.

If you would have read through all of my posts before attacking me, you would realize that I have no problem with UCSD being cautious and keeping a lot of people on their WL. But I disagree with their policy of WL extra 100-200 applicants (with no real shot) till May/June to cover their behind.
 
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Brain had specifically mentioned during my interview, I guess it has been repeated in this thread as well, that LOI's and update letters dont help you when it comes to the waitlist. I guess you might have conveniently overlooked that part, since you are not on the waitlist.


He actually told me in a one on one email that update letters do help. Not because they we will reevaluate you but because they want to know that you really care about attending the school.
 
Dude, Please dont try to lesson me on how I should make decisions that affect MY life. You dont need to worry about my time, I can make plenty of it for you if you need further clarification or I can come down to SD and explain it to you in person during your second look. :slap:

Easy man. I'm sorry if you feel attacked, not my intention. That icon is a little violent, no?

Peace and good luck to you!
Vaya con Dios.
 
He actually told me in a one on one email that update letters do help. Not because they we will reevaluate you but because they want to know that you really care about attending the school.

Ok then, Waitlisters ..START YOUR ENGINE !! start churning out update letters from tomorrow.😀

No seriously, I do see your point in letting them know that you are still interested in attending UCSD. A single call, email or letter should suffice that.
I dont see a point in the "keep on updating them" suggestion of n3opologist. This process has to be fair, no matter what. I would rather take a rejection than coercing someone into giving me a spot that rightfully belongs to someone else who was more qualified than me. I want to go to a med school based on my qualification as the best applicant that was available rather than the one who was chewing the brain out of admissions office for an acceptance. But this is a strictly a personal choice, it might not be the same for everyone else.
 
That being said, if you've read all my posts and seen the 6-page email I wrote about why UCSD is a great place to be, and you STILL hate the idea of being at UCSD (you want a bigger name? you hate that we aren't PBL? you... hate that we have an extremely supportive environment?), then... okay. Sucks I guess, but I'm sure you'll cope.

Err what? UCSD isnt a big name? Its one of the top 20 schools in the US and holds a lot of undergrad clout as well....

Thank you for being so informative and willing to post though. I and many like me really do appreciate your sincerity and passion.
 
Man, I hate to say this but I tend to agree with Zor. UCSD seriously is a school full of people who had "no other better option" and "wanted to stay in california." Honestly, after being waitlisted at UCLA, I settled for UCSD and I am not happy with it. I got the same impressions as he did, but what can I do.. it's either California or bust. Hopefully UCSF gets back to me with better news.

I know you are getting a lot of flak in this thread but I feel kind of the same way you do. Neopologist, I think that was pretty hurtful comment to say that you wouldn't appreciate somebody like him in your class. As a UCSD graduate (and I have posted this before) just about every single person in my class wished they had gotten in somewhere else. I can't say this is the same for the med school but I think it's a pretty safe bet. Also not everybody in your class is going to be super enthusiastic about their position at UCSD med; in fact I know 2-3 current students who were in my same boat a year before. Although they have fallen the way of silverlining1 and now love it. Maybe that's because of the fact that they can't change their position, so they have learned to love it so who knows.

I am a little more optomistic though.. I have accepted my fate at UCSD (ugh for another four years) and when I think about it, san diego is the best freaking place on earth. Walking out of the salk institute I always see that amazing sunset and think that I have it really nice here in SD. The best weather of any part of california, hands down. The only reason I wanted to stay in LA was because of personal reasons (family, friends, my entire life, love for the city, that one tupac song explains it pretty well).

Silverlining1, thank you for defending the school because as an undergrad at UCSD I felt the same thing. It is such an amazing institution that gets a bad rap for no reason at all.
 
I know you are getting a lot of flak in this thread but I feel kind of the same way you do. Neopologist, I think that was pretty hurtful comment to say that you wouldn't appreciate somebody like him in your class. As a UCSD graduate (and I have posted this before) just about every single person in my class wished they had gotten in somewhere else. I can't say this is the same for the med school but I think it's a pretty safe bet. Also not everybody in your class is going to be super enthusiastic about their position at UCSD med; in fact I know 2-3 current students who were in my same boat a year before. Although they have fallen the way of silverlining1 and now love it. Maybe that's because of the fact that they can't change their position, so they have learned to love it so who knows.

I am a little more optomistic though.. I have accepted my fate at UCSD (ugh for another four years) and when I think about it, san diego is the best freaking place on earth. Walking out of the salk institute I always see that amazing sunset and think that I have it really nice here in SD. The best weather of any part of california, hands down. The only reason I wanted to stay in LA was because of personal reasons (family, friends, my entire life, love for the city, that one tupac song explains it pretty well).

Silverlining1, thank you for defending the school because as an undergrad at UCSD I felt the same thing. It is such an amazing institution that gets a bad rap for no reason at all.

I agree, nice post ! 👍
 
If any of you guys (and gals) are unhappy with your UCSD acceptance... I can happily take it off of your hands😉...🙁

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Err what? UCSD isnt a big name? Its one of the top 20 schools in the US and holds a lot of undergrad clout as well....

Thank you for being so informative and willing to post though. I and many like me really do appreciate your sincerity and passion.

Lol chessknt, outside of California, nobody knows a single thing about UCSD. When I traveled abroad to europe after graduating from high school, everybody could recognize my friend's UCLA tshirt (he was accepted and I was rejected, I guess they will never want me), whereas when I was asked where I was going, nobody had ANY idea of who/what/where UCSD was.

Even my uncle who lives in Ohio had no idea why I was going to a "school [he's] never heard of" instead of a big name like Berkeley or UCLA.
 
If any of you guys (and gals) are unhappy with your UCSD acceptance... I can happily take it off of your hands😉...🙁

Funky, as a fellow indian brother in california, I feel your pain. We have to surmount so much just even get looked at in this entire admissions game, let alone an interview spot in California. Such bull****, but what can we do? Overqualified and over-repped. I wish you nothing but the best of luck.
 
If any of you guys (and gals) are unhappy with your UCSD acceptance... I can happily take it off of your hands😉...🙁

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I actually heard they are doing a spin-off of shrek starring Puss...but maybe I was dreaming.

And a funny side note about Berkeley (Since it was just mentioned):

My friend just interviewed there for grad school (and got accepted), she said one of their big selling points (From the student's point of view) is that they DON"T have a medical school :laugh:
 
Lol chessknt, outside of California, nobody knows a single thing about UCSD. When I traveled abroad to europe after graduating from high school, everybody could recognize my friend's UCLA tshirt (he was accepted and I was rejected, I guess they will never want me), whereas when I was asked where I was going, nobody had ANY idea of who/what/where UCSD was.

Even my uncle who lives in Ohio had no idea why I was going to a "school [he's] never heard of" instead of a big name like Berkeley or UCLA.


Haha, your life story is just so similar to mine that its not even funny. 😀
 
Haha, your life story is just so similar to mine that its not even funny. 😀

I have a feeling I will spend the rest of my life trying to make it back to LA. I still have 2-3 more shots though: I could get either a residency, fellowship, or finally a job in LA. I hope it works out in the end, my friend.. for you and me both.
 
I know you are getting a lot of flak in this thread but I feel kind of the same way you do. Neopologist, I think that was pretty hurtful comment to say that you wouldn't appreciate somebody like him in your class. As a UCSD graduate (and I have posted this before) just about every single person in my class wished they had gotten in somewhere else. I can't say this is the same for the med school but I think it's a pretty safe bet. Also not everybody in your class is going to be super enthusiastic about their position at UCSD med; in fact I know 2-3 current students who were in my same boat a year before. Although they have fallen the way of silverlining1 and now love it. Maybe that's because of the fact that they can't change their position, so they have learned to love it so who knows.

I am a little more optomistic though.. I have accepted my fate at UCSD (ugh for another four years) and when I think about it, san diego is the best freaking place on earth. Walking out of the salk institute I always see that amazing sunset and think that I have it really nice here in SD. The best weather of any part of california, hands down. The only reason I wanted to stay in LA was because of personal reasons (family, friends, my entire life, love for the city, that one tupac song explains it pretty well).

Silverlining1, thank you for defending the school because as an undergrad at UCSD I felt the same thing. It is such an amazing institution that gets a bad rap for no reason at all.
If you haven't yet, you should talk to JT, the student admissions rep who sent you an email when you got an interview invite (if you lost her email, PM me). She also went to UCSD for undergrad. She similarly had a bad impression of the med school but then was surprised to find that it was such a different place than she imagined. I do not mean to be offensive, but I think UCSD SOM is more prestigious than UCSD undergrad (despite the undergrad being very strong). Thus, I think being sad about getting into UCSD SOM is slightly less understandable than the undergrad. Admittedly, I haven't interviewed a big chunk of my classmates, but I don't think that a lot of people here were disappointed about it. At any rate, JT loves it here and would be happy to talk to you about her experiences.

Again, I totally understand not being thrilled about UCSD because that's how I felt too. However, I know that I'm not just "coping because I have no choice" - like I said, there are many concrete, specific things about the school that I didn't even know about. For example, I didn't know that all the students who applied for research grants were able to get funding last summer; I didn't know that every class has a notetaker who is paid to write down everything the prof says; I didn't know about the wide variety of student groups; I didn't know how receptive the administration is to student input. The only thing that I was wrong about was that I didn't think I'd like a lecture-based curriculum (I originally wanted PBL); perhaps this is a case of "adjusting to my circumstances", but I'm really glad that we have little mandatory class time, and I like the balance of lecture vs. small group that we have here.
 
Again, I totally understand not being thrilled about UCSD because that's how I felt too. However, I know that I'm not just "coping because I have no choice" - like I said, there are many concrete, specific things about the school that I didn't even know about. For example, I didn't know that all the students who applied for research grants were able to get funding last summer; I didn't know that every class has a notetaker who is paid to write down everything the prof says; I didn't know about the wide variety of student groups; I didn't know how receptive the administration is to student input. The only thing that I was wrong about was that I didn't think I'd like a lecture-based curriculum (I originally wanted PBL); perhaps this is a case of "adjusting to my circumstances", but I'm really glad that we have little mandatory class time, and I like the balance of lecture vs. small group that we have here.

Good points. However, these are pretty standard selling points across the board when it comes to top 40 programs, believe it or not. Also, Lecture based is absolutely better than PBL 👍
 
Good points. However, these are pretty standard selling points across the board when it comes to top 40 programs, believe it or not. Also, Lecture based is absolutely better than PBL 👍
I don't know enough about other programs to say that we're better for X, Y, and Z reasons - all I can do is give the specific reasons for why UCSD is awesome =]

I do hear that we're the only school with a professional tutorial office, though.
 
Funky, as a fellow indian brother in california, I feel your pain. We have to surmount so much just even get looked at in this entire admissions game, let alone an interview spot in California. Such bull****, but what can we do? Overqualified and over-repped. I wish you nothing but the best of luck.

Dont worry man...Check this out :

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Lol chessknt, outside of California, nobody knows a single thing about UCSD. When I traveled abroad to europe after graduating from high school, everybody could recognize my friend's UCLA tshirt (he was accepted and I was rejected, I guess they will never want me), whereas when I was asked where I was going, nobody had ANY idea of who/what/where UCSD was.

Even my uncle who lives in Ohio had no idea why I was going to a "school [he's] never heard of" instead of a big name like Berkeley or UCLA.

Who cares what random people in Europe or your uncle in Ohio think about UCSD? What you really ought to care about is what program directors of residencies nationwide think about your school. This varies depending on your specialty, but generally speaking, it seems that UCSD has an excellent reputation for delivering clinically strong residents year after year. At least this is what I've heard from the mouths of several PDs (in 2 different specialties) after coming back from 20 interviews in multiple states on both coasts.

I have a feeling I will spend the rest of my life trying to make it back to LA. I still have 2-3 more shots though: I could get either a residency, fellowship, or finally a job in LA. I hope it works out in the end, my friend.. for you and me both.

A search of the match list from 2008 shows 20 people out of a class of around 120 or so to the city of angels for residency. And 108 instances (though some of these are also for PGY-1 spots in addition to advanced spots) of California programs.
 
If you haven't yet, you should talk to JT, the student admissions rep who sent you an email when you got an interview invite (if you lost her email, PM me). She also went to UCSD for undergrad. She similarly had a bad impression of the med school but then was surprised to find that it was such a different place than she imagined. I do not mean to be offensive, but I think UCSD SOM is more prestigious than UCSD undergrad (despite the undergrad being very strong). Thus, I think being sad about getting into UCSD SOM is slightly less understandable than the undergrad. Admittedly, I haven't interviewed a big chunk of my classmates, but I don't think that a lot of people here were disappointed about it. At any rate, JT loves it here and would be happy to talk to you about her experiences.

Again, I totally understand not being thrilled about UCSD because that's how I felt too. However, I know that I'm not just "coping because I have no choice" - like I said, there are many concrete, specific things about the school that I didn't even know about. For example, I didn't know that all the students who applied for research grants were able to get funding last summer; I didn't know that every class has a notetaker who is paid to write down everything the prof says; I didn't know about the wide variety of student groups; I didn't know how receptive the administration is to student input. The only thing that I was wrong about was that I didn't think I'd like a lecture-based curriculum (I originally wanted PBL); perhaps this is a case of "adjusting to my circumstances", but I'm really glad that we have little mandatory class time, and I like the balance of lecture vs. small group that we have here.

I totally forgot this aspect of UCSD's curriculum and I must say I am now excited about skipping as much class as possible to maximize my free time. Awesome. Thank you silverlining. I find that the biggest complaint I hear from med students is time wasted in PBL-esque type exercises/classes so the less of that the better (imho).

edit: haha yea russell peters, what a guy.. only problem is that (like other comedians who base all their comedy on race/ethnicity/hilarious accents) he's a one-trick pony. I remember I saw his second show live and it was terribly unfunny since it seemed like it was just more of the same.
 
Neopologist, I think that was pretty hurtful comment to say that you wouldn't appreciate somebody like him in your class. Also not everybody in your class is going to be super enthusiastic about their position at UCSD med.

I am a little more optomistic though.. I have accepted my fate at UCSD (ugh for another four years) and when I think about it, san diego is the best freaking place on earth. Walking out of the salk institute I always see that amazing sunset and think that I have it really nice here in SD. The best weather of any part of california, hands down. The only reason I wanted to stay in LA was because of personal reasons (family, friends, my entire life, love for the city, that one tupac song explains it pretty well).

I didn't mean to be hurtful. I'm truly sorry. I just want to be around people who are excited to be doing what they're doing. If a bunch of people come to UCSD who wish they were otherwise, the "UCSD=unhappy students" rumor will keep spreading. I guess I'll seek out the people who are stoked to be at UCSD; I sure met a lot of excited MS1/2s back in Sept (I guess they could've been fake).

I've enjoyed my past 4 years at UCLA, but a change will be really nice. I had a roommate my first year who was so pissed that he didn't get into Stanford that he couldn't enjoy himself. It was sad. There is ALWAYS a sense of relativity to any disappointment in life. My reasons for wanting LA are the same as yours, but don't you think we'll all have a better time if we're happy about our situations? (Don't worry, I'm not Russel Simmons)

Who knows, we may end up as best friends someday. 😀
 
This may be a bit off topic, but my daughter (who will be applying to med schools this summer) is currently an undergrad at UCSD. I can vouch from her interactions with other students there that most of them were there because they couldn't get into Berkeley or UCLA. She turned down both to attend UCSD, and the comments she got were mostly along the lines of questioning her sanity. I think she made an excellent choice, as UCSD fits her personality very well, and she is thriving there.
I think people on SDN put too much emphasis on the name of a med school without being honest about which place would be the best fit for them. Obviously, if you get into only one school, the decision is easy. If you have choices and money is not the prime motivator, then try to minimize the prestige factor, and be true to yourself.
 
This may be a bit off topic, but my daughter (who will be applying to med schools this summer) is currently an undergrad at UCSD. I can vouch from her interactions with other students there that most of them were there because they couldn't get into Berkeley or UCLA. She turned down both to attend UCSD, and the comments she got were mostly along the lines of questioning her sanity. I think she made an excellent choice, as UCSD fits her personality very well, and she is thriving there.
I think people on SDN put too much emphasis on the name of a med school without being honest about which place would be the best fit for them. Obviously, if you get into only one school, the decision is easy. If you have choices and money is not the prime motivator, then try to minimize the prestige factor, and be true to yourself.

It is hard to get a neutral perspective. What that one guy above said about PDs looking favorable on UCSD rigorous clinical training is a breath of fresh air that makes me excited to attend a school that is reputable and trains its student to excel.
 
It is hard to get a neutral perspective. What that one guy above said about PDs looking favorable on UCSD rigorous clinical training is a breath of fresh air that makes me excited to attend a school that is reputable and trains its student to excel.
My 4th year big sib has reaffirmed this. Physicians were impressed by his performance on away rotations and were not surprised to hear that he was from UCSD. There's a bit of an interesting debate in the UCSD vs. UCLA thread in the main Pre-Allo forum.
 
This may be a bit off topic, but my daughter (who will be applying to med schools this summer) is currently an undergrad at UCSD. I can vouch from her interactions with other students there that most of them were there because they couldn't get into Berkeley or UCLA. She turned down both to attend UCSD, and the comments she got were mostly along the lines of questioning her sanity. I think she made an excellent choice, as UCSD fits her personality very well, and she is thriving there.

I also turned down Berkeley and UCLA for UCSD as an undergrad, and I don't regret that decision for a single second. Anybody who says that "people at UCSD are only there because they couldn't get into a 'better' school and had to settle" can suck it.
 
My 4th year big sib has reaffirmed this. Physicians were impressed by his performance on away rotations and were not surprised to hear that he was from UCSD. There's a bit of an interesting debate in the UCSD vs. UCLA thread in the main Pre-Allo forum.

Nobody really mentioned that it was directly beneficial to residency applications (which is arguably the most important part of med school).
 
I also turned down Berkeley and UCLA for UCSD as an undergrad, and I don't regret that decision for a single second. Anybody who says that "people at UCSD are only there because they couldn't get into a 'better' school and had to settle" can suck it.

I turned down UCLA for UCfailvine, beat that!
 
I probably have a different perspective because I saw the MSTP side of things, but the students I met at UCSD all seemed happy to be there (and not like they'd "settled" for UCSD). The admissions process was made a lot more clear to me than it seems to have been made for regular MD applicants; the MSTP also rejects people post-interview. Location and research-wise, the school really appealed to me, as well; although these are things MSTP students are going to care more about (since we're getting a PhD and we're there for 7-8 years).

Moral of the story: I guess I had a radically different experience than you UCSD-haters. UCSD gets a big 👍 from me 🙂.

Also, silverlining, I'd love to read your 6-page email on UCSD, although perhaps I ought to wait until I get my admissions decision back.
 
Well, I also really liked UCSD (especially the free clinics) and coincidentally, I called the admissions office and found out that I was accepted during Monday's meeting! 👍

I never got a call from Dean Kelly... but maybe I'll get one today? Maybe those calls are reserved for people who have the patience to wait and not call the office before Dean Kelly calls...

Good luck to everyone still waiting and to those in the "acceptable pool!" :luck:
 
I probably have a different perspective because I saw the MSTP side of things, but the students I met at UCSD all seemed happy to be there (and not like they'd "settled" for UCSD). The admissions process was made a lot more clear to me than it seems to have been made for regular MD applicants; the MSTP also rejects people post-interview. Location and research-wise, the school really appealed to me, as well; although these are things MSTP students are going to care more about (since we're getting a PhD and we're there for 7-8 years).

Moral of the story: I guess I had a radically different experience than you UCSD-haters. UCSD gets a big 👍 from me 🙂.

Also, silverlining, I'd love to read your 6-page email on UCSD, although perhaps I ought to wait until I get my admissions decision back.
That's great to hear 🙂 You're welcome to read the email now, if you like; just PM me your email address. By the way, do you know when you're supposed to have a decision? I have a friend who also applied MSTP.
Well, I also really liked UCSD (especially the free clinics) and coincidentally, I called the admissions office and found out that I was accepted during Monday's meeting! 👍

I never got a call from Dean Kelly... but maybe I'll get one today? Maybe those calls are reserved for people who have the patience to wait and not call the office before Dean Kelly calls...

Good luck to everyone still waiting and to those in the "acceptable pool!" :luck:
Yay! Congratulations!!! Last year, I called Brian and found out I was accepted, and so I never got a call from Dean Kelly. =p
 
Anyone know if they are still giving out interviews? A paper of mine just got accepted to Nature Geoscience so i was wondering if its worth sending them an update or now.
 
Anyone know if they are still giving out interviews? A paper of mine just got accepted to Nature Geoscience so i was wondering if its worth sending them an update or now.
I don't know, but I think it's worth calling to ask. Sounds like a worthy update 👍
 
Well, I also really liked UCSD (especially the free clinics) and coincidentally, I called the admissions office and found out that I was accepted during Monday's meeting! 👍

I never got a call from Dean Kelly... but maybe I'll get one today? Maybe those calls are reserved for people who have the patience to wait and not call the office before Dean Kelly calls...

Good luck to everyone still waiting and to those in the "acceptable pool!" :luck:

I didn't have the patience and called too. Turns out the committee didn't get to me this round. Well another couple of weeks of waiting for me . . .
 
That's great to hear 🙂 You're welcome to read the email now, if you like; just PM me your email address. By the way, do you know when you're supposed to have a decision? I have a friend who also applied MSTP.

I feel I'm already too attached to the school, given that I'm not even accepted there yet 😳. If I hear good news, I'll be sure to PM you my email address.

We were told that MSTP decisions would go out at the "end of February." Well, that's now, so I'm hoping to hear something in the next couple of days. :xf:
 
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