**2010-2011** "What are my Chances? Where Should I apply? What should I do?"

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So, with AACOMAS' ******ed new rule, all spring grades are required to be on the transcript before they will begin verifying. This puts quarter system people, like myself, at a severe disadvantage. I am currently taking 1 spring course, a 5 unit, that I got a C- in the first time. I am confident that I will get an A this go-round. Assuming this, it will raise my GPA fairly substantially but I'm not sure its enough to warrant the major time loss.

Without Spring Grades
sGPA: 2.86
cGPA: 2.82
MCAT: 33
(Slightly better than last year when I applied, I'm on 2 waitlists now)
Submit: June 1st
Complete: Likely 3 weeks, so last week of June?

With Spring Grades (course ends 6/10, grades will be posted and ready to send out 6/24, 1 week for postage until it gets to AACOMAS)
sGPA: 2.95
cGPA: 2.87
MCAT: 33
Submit: 7/1 at the earliest
Complete: Likely 6 weeks at this point so Mid August?

While AMCAS doesn't care about spring grades coming in after you've submitted, AACOMAS has decided they want to screw us so thats what I'm looking at. My grades are significantly better with Spring in them but I'm also looking at 6 weeks or so time difference from the time schools get my app. With low stats is basically essential that I have applications in as soon as possible.

EDIT: Someone in a different thread suggested that this would be considered lying to the application service and be grounds for dismissal and revocation of any acceptances? Not sure how but interesting perspective
 
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DbDan said:
So, with AACOMAS' ******ed new rule, all spring grades are required to be on the transcript before they will begin verifying. This puts quarter system people, like myself, at a severe disadvantage. I am currently taking 1 spring course, a 5 unit, that I got a C- in the first time. I am confident that I will get an A this go-round. Assuming this, it will raise my GPA fairly substantially but I'm not sure its enough to warrant the major time loss.

Without Spring Grades
sGPA: 2.86
cGPA: 2.82
MCAT: 33
(Slightly better than last year when I applied, I'm on 2 waitlists now)
Submit: June 1st
Complete: Likely 3 weeks, so last week of June?

With Spring Grades (course ends 6/10, grades will be posted and ready to send out 6/24, 1 week for postage until it gets to AACOMAS)
sGPA: 2.95
cGPA: 2.87
MCAT: 33
Submit: 7/1 at the earliest
Complete: Likely 6 weeks at this point so Mid August?

While AMCAS doesn't care about spring grades coming in after you've submitted, AACOMAS has decided they want to screw us so thats what I'm looking at. My grades are significantly better with Spring in them but I'm also looking at 6 weeks or so time difference from the time schools get my app. With low stats is basically essential that I have applications in as soon as possible.

EDIT: Someone in a different thread suggested that this would be considered lying to the application service and be grounds for dismissal and revocation of any acceptances? Not sure how but interesting perspective
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How early did you apply last year?
 
Razmatazz said:
How early did you apply last year?
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Late. My first secondary was complete October 11th I think. My primary was submitted early August. I waited until my MCAT scores came back and then finished my personal statement. Having absolutely no guidance through the application process ruined me. I neglected to put down community service hours I had completed a year ago, left off countless extra cirriculars I deemed not relevant enough to put on an app, didn't write proper descriptions, it was basically just a cluster fck.

My GPA last year was 2.78cGPA, 2.79sGPA. The MCAT the same. This year I'm also applying with close to 2000 more clinical hours and a bunch of shadowing and better LORs (hopefully, still waiting on them... including a DO letter that I've worked w/ the Dr for close to 600 hours now, as opposed to a DO letter from a Dr I had met a total of 2 times for a total of 2.5hrs)
 
Hello everyone,

I am new to these forums and have a quick question. Does anyone have experience with this scenario?

I have an MCAT score in hand in which I am not happy with and plan to retake July 16th. However, I would like to submit and get verified as early as possible. Would it be best to wait for my new score to submit or go ahead and indicate that I plan to retake. I guess my concern is that some school will write me off due to my first low score before even seeing my new one.

If anyone has had experience with this, please let me know what you think the best option is.

Thanks!
DG👍
 
I don't know how low of a score we are talking, but unless it's just really really low, I would definitely go ahead and submit if you are ready. As you said, just indicate that you are retaking. Most schools will take that into consideration if they like your application otherwise. Depending on the strength of the rest of your application, you are probably fine. There ARE people that get in with very low 20s (I've even heard of such cases in MD programs).

Here's a question for you though- are you going to be able to prepare by July and make a drastic enough change in your score? Just a thought...I don't know your situation though so it's definitely your call. Good luck with everything!
 
It is pretty low. I got a 21 (a terrible verbal score of 4!), which I know I can improve to at least an 8. All my practice tests were in the 8-11 range for verbal, just tanked it on the real thing. I will be much more prepared this time, as I did not study near enough for the first one. What sucks is the 4 is the only red-flag on my application. I have a strong GPA, both non-science and science, lots of clinical exposure, lots of research (couple co-auther pubs), and will have great letters. However, with a 4 in verbal, I don't feel like I stand a chance. Anyone else have any thoughts?

DG
 
DrGILL said:
It is pretty low. I got a 21 (a terrible verbal score of 4!), which I know I can improve to at least an 8. All my practice tests were in the 8-11 range for verbal, just tanked it on the real thing. I will be much more prepared this time, as I did not study near enough for the first one. What sucks is the 4 is the only red-flag on my application. I have a strong GPA, both non-science and science, lots of clinical exposure, lots of research (couple co-auther pubs), and will have great letters. However, with a 4 in verbal, I don't feel like I stand a chance. Anyone else have any thoughts?

DG
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posting more info would really help, its hard for anyone to give good advice when you're this vague. whats your mcat breakdown and cgpa and sgpa. people have different ideas on what is a strong gpa. also, is english your first language?
 
Both GPAs are around 3.6. Breakdown is 9 in physical science, 8 in bio, 4 in verbal. Hoping to bring all of the scores up, especially that verbal. Yes, English is my first language, and I have no idea how I scored that low. I was so convinced that it was a mistake that I even had them rescore.... Should I submit early or wait??
 
depending on the school you're applying to your gpa is either right at the average or slightly above, with that mcat i would just wait. most med schools see the verbal as being the most important score, bio is 2nd most important, and while your bio score isnt too bad it is still little below average. if you were scoring consistantly much higher on the practice tests you might want to retake the test asap so that u can still get in an early app.
 
DrGILL said:
Hello everyone,

I am new to these forums and have a quick question. Does anyone have experience with this scenario?

I have an MCAT score in hand in which I am not happy with and plan to retake July 16th. However, I would like to submit and get verified as early as possible. Would it be best to wait for my new score to submit or go ahead and indicate that I plan to retake. I guess my concern is that some school will write me off due to my first low score before even seeing my new one.

If anyone has had experience with this, please let me know what you think the best option is.

Thanks!
DG👍
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Possible option. Apply to one school June 1. One that is not your top pick. This gets your application verified. Re-take your mcat in July. Get your score, if it is favorable. Release it . It will take aacomas about a week to update your application before it will show as an "official score". Then release to your top picks from that point. Otherwise,
you run the risk of being weeded out if you submit without the score that you want, even if you check the box saying that you are re-taking.This may help you keep on track with timing in the application process, which as we know is precious.
Just a thought.
 
Hey guys, I have a question about when to apply. I would like to submit my applications as early as i can in June (like everyone else). I will be taking the early May MCAT, but I will be finishing up my last Ochem and lab that quarter as well. The quarter doesnt end until June 10th, so the final grades for the last ochem and lab wont be on my transcript if I submit my application in June.

Should I just send in my transcript without those grades early and update it later, or just wait until they are ready and have my application submitted in early or mid July??
 
Please help!!! I am planning to apply this year to NYCOM, UMDNJ, and TOUROCOM. I have a very unusual situation and nobody seems to have any answers. I am 28.

I have been working full-time in public health for 4 years. I got my undergrad degree in business administration in Asia, with a GPA of 3.1. (Yes, I am a US citizen.) Then I moved to the US and got an MA in Marketing Communications, and my GPA was 3.7. I then decided to switch fields and started a pre-med post-bacc at Harvard Extension; my sGPA was 3.2 and my cGPA was 3.3.

I am taking my MCATs in two weeks and honestly I think I will probably get a total score in the low to mid-20s.

What are my chances?? Any suggestions for other schools? Do I need to take any more classes??? Will my undergrad GPA from abroad even count?? Which GPA will schools look at, my undergrad or my post-bacc??? Will my masters even count??? Anything else I should do??? I listed all my stats and my ECs below. Help and honest advice will be GREATLY appreciated. Thank you so much.


Full time work in public health, 2006-present

Post Bacc, Harvard Extension, 2005-2009:

Fall Term 2009 MATH E-3 Quant Reasoning: Practical Math A
Spring Term 2009 PHYS E-1B Principles of Physics II B
Fall Term 2008 PHYS E-1A Principles of Physics I B
Summer Term 2008 PSYC S-1875 Psychopaths, Terrorists B+
Spring Term 2008 BIOL E-1B Organismic, Evolutionary Biol A-
Fall Term 2007 BIOL E-1A Molecular and Cellular Biology B-
Summer Term 2007 PSYC S-1240 Abnormal Psychology A-
Spring Term 2007 CHEM E-2B Organic Chemistry II B+
Spring Term 2007 ENGL E-157 The Makers of Modern Poetry B-
Fall Term 2006 CHEM E-2A Organic Chemistry I B+
Fall Term 2006 CREA E-25 Intro to Fiction Writing A-
Spring Term 2006 CHEM E-1B General Chemistry II B
Fall Term 2005 CHEM E-1A General Chemistry I B

post bacc Sci + math GPA: 3.2
post bacc Cumulative GPA: 3.3

MA in Marketing Communications, 2005 (IN THE US) GPA: 3.7
Bachelor’s in Business Administration, 2002 (FROM ASIA) GPA: 3.1

Extracurriculars:

Volunteer at a Children’s Hospital 2005-2008
Founder and leader of health-related book club 2006-2007
Shadowed a MD and volunteered at a hospital in Asia, August 2007
Read books and recorded for the blind and dyslexic, Aug 2006
 
What I notice is that you don't have any recent/current EC's. What did you do when you were working in the health field for 4 years?

And shoot for a mid to high twenty's or low thirties on the MCAT. Always think positive!!
 
I know that this or similar question might have been discussed in the forum many times.
I got a mailing from St. George's University saying that they have affilation to US hospitals.
I dont have great GPA/MCAT so should I try to St. George or a DO school in US?

Any ideas what degree St. George gives?

any pro/cons?

thanks
 
DO school. No question, no argument, no need to clarify, continue, etc.


DO school ...
 
JaggerPlate said:
DO school. No question, no argument, no need to clarify, continue, etc.


DO school ...
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I have to agree, but have you seen Ross match list?

It is pretty decent. I think it should at least be given consideration now.


Is their ANY DO school or MD school you would NOT rather go to vs Ross or other top Caribbean???
 
RELAX11 said:
I have to agree, but have you seen Ross match list?

It is pretty decent. I think it should at least be given consideration now.


Is their ANY DO school or MD school you would NOT rather go to vs Ross or other top Caribbean???
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DO schools = ~100% graduation rate and getting into a residency.
Ross = ~ 25%
SGU = ~85%
 
serenade said:
DO schools = ~100% graduation rate and getting into a residency.
Ross = ~ 25%
SGU = ~85%
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How many first year students does Ross have because the match list was huge if only 25% get residency. Can I have a source please?
 
RELAX11 said:
How many first year students does Ross have because the match list was huge if only 25% get residency. Can I have a source please?
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The matchlist could include previous year classes that didn't match during their fourth year.
 
Maybe Sackler in Israel as it is considered by many to be in the highest esteem and it is MD...

I got into a bunch of DO schools and decided on NYCOM from them, and now deciding between that and Sackler...(or if I get lucky get off the alternate list at GW)

Tough decision though, I can sympathize...
 
I do community outreach as my job. Does that count? I also plan to start volunteering again after my MCAT in two weeks. Does that help?
 
FutureCTDoc said:
The worst US medical school>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SGU
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The 2008 average mcat at sgu is 28 with 3.3 gpa. Some DO schools are around 24 and 3.4.


Try to put your us jingoism aside.

I don't think it is such an easy decision as you say. If 85% get residency and just looking at sgu match list which has more academic residencies than most do match lists. I still think it should be DO first but a close second lurks.
http://etalk.sgu.edu/faqs/medfaq.pdf
 
RELAX11 said:
The 2008 average mcat at sgu is 28 with 3.3 gpa. Some DO schools are around 24 and 3.4.


Try to put your us jingoism aside.

I don't think it is such an easy decision as you say. If 85% get residency and just looking at sgu match list which has more academic residencies than most do match lists. I still think it should be DO first but a close second lurks.
http://etalk.sgu.edu/faqs/medfaq.pdf
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Is that 85% of people that go through the match, or 85% of people who started that class (I think it's the former). If it's 85% of people who went through the match, I'd like to hear how many people didn't even graduate (probably a lot more that ANY US school.)

Honestly, this debate is stupid. It always ends the same way. The OP should do a search next time before making threads.
 
Squeal said:
Is that 85% of people that go through the match, or 85% of people who started that class (I think it's the former). If it's 85% of people who went through the match, I'd like to hear how many people didn't even graduate (probably a lot more that ANY US school.)

Honestly, this debate is stupid. It always ends the same way. The OP should do a search next time before making threads.
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Yeah but admission stats are getting better. So your telling me I should look at old threads when admission stats were 22 mcat and 3.1 gpa.


I don't think so.
 
RELAX11 said:
The 2008 average mcat at sgu is 28 with 3.3 gpa. Some DO schools are around 24 and 3.4.


Try to put your us jingoism aside.

I don't think it is such an easy decision as you say. If 85% get residency and just looking at sgu match list which has more academic residencies than most do match lists. I still think it should be DO first but a close second lurks.
http://etalk.sgu.edu/faqs/medfaq.pdf
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Wonderful, however even the worst US medical schools do a heck of a lot better in the match.
 
one stupid question.
what is Match?
I guess it is for residency..
If some one does not get a match what happens to these students? do they not become doctor and their study goes waste?

thanks
 
emno said:
one stupid question.
what is Match?
I guess it is for residency..
If some one does not get a match what happens to these students? do they not become doctor and their study goes waste?

thanks
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A match is for residency, yes. You should definitely know what this is because I think it is the single most important data set you can use to evaluate a school, IMHO! Especially DO schools.
 
bige11 said:
A match is for residency, yes. You should definitely know what this is because I think it is the single most important data set you can use to evaluate a school, IMHO! Especially DO schools.
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thanks bige

i still did not understand what happens to them who are not able get a match?
do they never become doctor and the study is waste?

thanks again
 
emno said:
thanks bige

i still did not understand what happens to them who are not able get a match?
do they never become doctor and the study is waste?

thanks again
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Not matching is probably a 4th year student's worst fear. Some are able to find an internship year, some do research, some fnid another medically related job, some study for step 3 for when they can actually take it. Basically, they all try again the next year. Everyone who has graduated is eligible for the match, its a matter of whether or not they actually get it.

At least this is how I understand it
 
does anyone know what CCOM avgs are? I was trying to find them on here. That is definitely my first choice. the mcat has been my everest. ive taken it 3 times:

V8 P7 B8 23M
V7 P8 B10 25Q
V5 P9 B10 24M

sGPA 3.38 cGPA 3.69

im working full time in a lab this year, i got my name on a paper for the first time this year
i got certified as an EMT this year
EMT clinicals at an urgent care center
~25 hrs shadowing
volunteering in a hospital
presented 4 posters at various science meetings
worked 2 summers in an orthopedic clinic
worked over a winter break at a diabetes care clinic
i have an MD letter and im working on a DO letter...

thoughts???
 
Not sure about CCOM this year but your GPA is more than fine and your MCAT score is probably a point or 1.5 pts below their current average matriculant if you count your highest (25) score .

On the MCAT, your verbal reasoning is on the low side compared to the other sections but it shouldn't cause substantial problems as I think most schools require a 7 minimum in each section and a minimum MCAT total that your score surpasses.

Your shadowing hours are low (25) and I would suggest expanding them from now till you submit your application and work on getting more LORs after you receive your secondary to update them/demonstrate progress in that regard. Good job on the EMT certification but the certification in itself is worthless imo (I'm an EMT-B) but it's the opportunities that it opens up and your experience in taking advantage of them that will give you an edge (many physicians may be more comfortable in allowing you to perform a greater range of tasks when shadowing because of it or you can work in a hospital in some departments). Good job on the paper as well, I'd definitely put it down on E.C. on AACOMAS. If it hasn't been accepted yet, then just put down "submitted" and update them if it does get formally accepted.
 
DbDan said:
Not matching is probably a 4th year student's worst fear. Some are able to find an internship year, some do research, some fnid another medically related job, some study for step 3 for when they can actually take it. Basically, they all try again the next year. Everyone who has graduated is eligible for the match, its a matter of whether or not they actually get it.

At least this is how I understand it
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Not matching would be terrible, but it isn't really a fear unless you go to a lower tier school, do terrible, and act like a jerk. Most residency programs need spots. We have a shortage of physicians. The only time it could be a problem is if you wanted to get in an extremely competitive residency (like derm) or you only wanted to go to extremely prestigious programs (Hopkins, etc.) My attitude is if you are going into medical school not expecting to do your best, DON'T GO. If you are going to do your best, and if your expectations are realistic to your abilities, you shouldn't run into any problems.
 
jslo85 said:
Not sure about CCOM this year but your GPA is more than fine and your MCAT score is probably a point or 1.5 pts below their current average matriculant if you count your highest (25) score .

On the MCAT, your verbal reasoning is on the low side compared to the other sections but it shouldn't cause substantial problems as I think most schools require a 7 minimum in each section and a minimum MCAT total that your score surpasses.

Your shadowing hours are low (25) and I would suggest expanding them from now till you submit your application and work on getting more LORs after you receive your secondary to update them/demonstrate progress in that regard. Good job on the EMT certification but the certification in itself is worthless imo (I'm an EMT-B) but it's the opportunities that it opens up and your experience in taking advantage of them that will give you an edge (many physicians may be more comfortable in allowing you to perform a greater range of tasks when shadowing because of it or you can work in a hospital in some departments). Good job on the paper as well, I'd definitely put it down on E.C. on AACOMAS. If it hasn't been accepted yet, then just put down "submitted" and update them if it does get formally accepted.
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thanks for your input 🙂 i am definitely going to try to shadow more, one of the DO's who im hoping will write me a letter I'm shadowing this month...
 
medschl hpeful said:
Possible option. Apply to one school June 1. One that is not your top pick. This gets your application verified. Re-take your mcat in July. Get your score, if it is favorable. Release it . It will take aacomas about a week to update your application before it will show as an "official score". Then release to your top picks from that point. Otherwise,
you run the risk of being weeded out if you submit without the score that you want, even if you check the box saying that you are re-taking.This may help you keep on track with timing in the application process, which as we know is precious.
Just a thought.
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I think this is an excellent idea. Getting verified is the biggest pain in the butt...however, for the initial fee, don't you get something like 3 schools or something? Don't waste your money by only applying the one at first if that's the case. It sucks to send a bad score to schools, but again, just choose ones you don't care quite as much about. Having that info on there about retaking might get you through initial screening. Plus with the amount of time it takes to get verified, you might not even run into any real issues timing wise.

A 4 in verbal will definitely kill you at this point though, so work on passage after passage until you see the trend. Verbal is said to be the most important subsection in admissions these days, so stay focused and you will be fine! If you have to, contact the schools you end up applying to and speak directly with an admissions director to express your interest in the school. Let them know you are retaking but didn't want to hold up on submitting. Some schools are WAY cooler than you realize...they might even hold on evaluating your application too intensively until August. If I learned anything during the med school admissions process (which I was so fortunate to have done twice, haha), it is that you should NEVER assume a door is closed. Contact people, ask questions, ask favors, SHOW INTEREST...and things will go so much better than you could ever have thought. Good luck! If you have any other questions please let me know!
 
medschl hpeful said:
Possible option. Apply to one school June 1. One that is not your top pick. This gets your application verified. Re-take your mcat in July. Get your score, if it is favorable. Release it . It will take aacomas about a week to update your application before it will show as an "official score". Then release to your top picks from that point. Otherwise,
you run the risk of being weeded out if you submit without the score that you want, even if you check the box saying that you are re-taking.This may help you keep on track with timing in the application process, which as we know is precious.
Just a thought.
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Simply brilliant!
 
Hello all- I would just like some advice on what steps I need to take help my med school stock. I'm an Ohio resident and attend a small liberal arts school in-state. I am very interested in attending a DO school in state or in the area (OU, Pikeville, MSU, LECOM, WV, etc.)

Due to a rough (first) semester my current cGPA is 3.35. However, I have a strong upward trend in grades and expect to see them continually improve. I reasonably expect them to be at least a 3.5. I currently have over 85 hours volunteer hospital work and have shadowed the Director of Vascular Diseases and Surgery at Ohio State (great connection), an Immunologist, and an Optometrist (to explore another area in the medical field that is not med-school), and will be shadowing a family physician soon. I should hopefully be doing some research this summer as well. My list of EC's at my school are substantially long (part of the reason for my bad semester), but they include such things as TAing, RAing, and I have won an institutional-wide award for leadership on campus (only goes to one student from the school). However, I know EC's aren't overly important for med school.

What steps do I need to take to better my chances? I know my gpa needs to come up. More volunteering/shadowing? How much do I need? How important is research? Any help is GREATLY appreciated! 👍
 
With a 3.6 GPA and a sGPA of a 3.53. What MCAT would I need for PCOM?
 
DJack said:
Hello all- I would just like some advice on what steps I need to take help my med school stock. I'm an Ohio resident and attend a small liberal arts school in-state. I am very interested in attending a DO school in state or in the area (OU, Pikeville, MSU, LECOM, WV, etc.)

Due to a rough (first) semester my current cGPA is 3.35. However, I have a strong upward trend in grades and expect to see them continually improve. I reasonably expect them to be at least a 3.5. I currently have over 85 hours volunteer hospital work and have shadowed the Director of Vascular Diseases and Surgery at Ohio State (great connection), an Immunologist, and an Optometrist (to explore another area in the medical field that is not med-school), and will be shadowing a family physician soon. I should hopefully be doing some research this summer as well. My list of EC's at my school are substantially long (part of the reason for my bad semester), but they include such things as TAing, RAing, and I have won an institutional-wide award for leadership on campus (only goes to one student from the school). However, I know EC's aren't overly important for med school.

What steps do I need to take to better my chances? I know my gpa needs to come up. More volunteering/shadowing? How much do I need? How important is research? Any help is GREATLY appreciated! 👍
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The bolded statement is extremely false. EC's are very important. They show that you are well rounded and can handle academic demands, despite having other obligations. Despite that, it sounds like you have done a lot of them, so you should be fine in that regard.

Maybe consider some non-clinical/health care related volunteering to diversify yourself a little bit. Find an organization that is relevant to your interests and give them some of your time.

Otherwise, you're on the right track.

Study hard for the MCAT and try to score above 30. Take the AAMC practice tests, they are excellent. Pay for and take all of them and go through the scoring report and explanations to all of the problems (even the ones you got right).

I don't know the designation of the physicians you've shadowed, but if you haven't yet, make sure you shadow and get to know a DO Some of the schools you listed actually require a DO LOR, in fact Pikeville not only requires a DO LOR, but the DO must be a member of the AOA (2011 CIB).

In the interest of transparency, I have never applied to or been accepted to medical school, so take my advice for what it's worth.
 
Hi there,
Your GPA looks average, as in thats about the avg GPA for DO schools entering class. You seem to have great extracurricular activities, shadowing and volunteering. I would recommend you to shadow a DO and get to know them well so that they can write a LOR for you, which some schools require. Now with all this on side, it comes down to MCAT. If you can keep up your GPA or even get it a bit higher and get decent MCAT scores (around 30) then you have very good chances of getting into a DO school. Keep in mind that every year it gets tougher and tougher as the number of applicants are going high. So it wont hurt to aim for higher grades 🙂
Doing research will not hurt you. Although, keep in mind that you do not want to do too many things at once, as this may affect your grades.
Good luck!
 
Thank you for the awesome advice so far guys! It really helps.

Any idea on how much volunteering/shadowing is ideal for applications?? Obviously with volunteering there is no such thing as too much, but I would like to have a good number to aim for 🙂
 
Don't try to "aim" for anything. Just volunteer as much as you want so that you are genuinely interested in the experience and get something out of it.

Stay with it. Don't quit volunteering or shadowing the day you hit "submit" on your application.
 
elftown said:
There are so many other factors involved.
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+1

FutureDoc01 said:
With a 3.6 GPA and a sGPA of a 3.53. What MCAT would I need for PCOM?
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You will learn that this is a seemingly random process. I had a little better GPA and sGPA than yours, a decent MCAT (would have preferred a better distribution), accepted to a few DO schools and didn't get an interview from the PCOM's (complete in Sept).

Just do your best on the MCAT and hopefully it will be good enough to open doors for you.
 
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